Tripurari Swami and others on "Female Diksha Gurus"

Tripurari swami:

1. Lineage descending from Jahnava Thakurani and Narayani Devi down to Prana Gopal Goswami, a respected acarya of the sampradaya in the early 1900's in Bengal: 2 men, 9 ladies.

2. Lineage descending from Lokanatha Gosvami and Narottama Das Thakura down to Siddha Sakhicaran Das Babaji: 10 men.

3. Lineage descending from Advaita Acarya and his son Krishna Mishra down to Nikunja Gopal Goswami of Navadvip: 6 men, 6 ladies.

4. Lineage descending from Jahnava Thakurani and Dhananjaya Pandit down to Kunjabihari Das Babaji: 13 men, 1 lady.

5. Lineage descending from Lokanatha Gosvami and Narottama Das Thakura down to Jnanananda Cakravarti Thakura: 10 men, 7 ladies.

6. Lineage descending from Jahnava Thakurani down to Tinkadi Goswami: 14 men.

7. Lineage descending from Jahnava Thakurani down to Bhaktivinoda Thakura: 8 men, 4 ladies.

This makes a total of 62 men and 27 ladies— 30% ladies out of the total 89 gurus in the lines given above. It should give us an idea of the general pattern one will find throughout the Gaudiya lineages.

[PADA: OK and where does Srila Prabhupada validate any of these lineages? And why did Sridhara Maharaja want the GBC to vote in more acharyas, after being told they were deviating? How can deviating people vote in acharyas?]

AD: So why should we take those apa-sampradayas as a role-models? If Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Thakur and Srila Prabhupada showed us the real siksa lineage is all men and 0 ladies?

DK: Srila Prabhupada never -- ever -- gave any attention to Bipin Bihari Goswami and his "guru line" where all these so-called female acaryas appeared. I would just like to warn anyone who ventures into such nonsense to remember how Srila Prabhupada dealt with his first sanskrit editor Nitai whom he rejected and called 'a venomous serpent' after Nitai mixed with the babajis and other sampradayas. In some way at least those who went out of ISKCON are better off than those who want to remain in ISKCON, and turn ISKCON into an apa-sampradaya.

JN: I find it amazing that ISKCON gurus are now looking to the Caste Goswamis and other non-valid lines for how the "tradition" is supposed to be done. "This makes a total of 62 men and 27 ladies ... making up mostly a bunch of bogus apa sampradayas."

RN: The List of Acaryas in Srila Prabhupada's Gita shows: zero female acaryas. He did not support that idea.

DD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rAeLldI0sQ&t=5s

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Aindra Prabhu on female gurus

ND: I want that all of my spiritual sons and daughters will inherit this title of Bhaktivedanta, so that the family transcendental diploma will continue through the generations. Those possessing the title of Bhaktivedanta will be allowed to initiate disciples. Maybe by 1975, all of my disciples will be allowed to initiate and increase the numbers of the generations. That is my program.”

(Letter to Hamsaduta—Los Angeles 3 December, 1968)

“So I hope that all of you, men, women, boys and girls, become spiritual master, and follow this principle. Spiritual master, simply, sincerely, follow the principles and speak to the general public. Then Krsna immediately becomes your favorite. Krsna does not become your favorite; you become Krsna’s favorite. Krsna says in theBhagavad-gita, na ca tasmad manusyesu kascin me priya-krttamah: ‘One who is doing this humble service of preaching work, Krsna consciousness, nobody is dearer than him to Me.’ So if you want to become recognized by Krsna very quickly, you take up this process of becoming spiritual master, present the Bhagavad-gita as it is. Your life is perfect. Thank you very much.”

(Vyasa-puja Lecture—London, August 22, 1973)

[PADA: Will be able to initiate in the capacity of priests and not acharyas. Of course this was never implemented because there were too many troubles even getting a few people to the priest stage. ys pd]