Battle for the soul of ISKCON
[PADA: Even I have to say it seems very strange -- if not an unlikely coincidence -- that the names of Bhakti Charu Swami and Hansadutta das are both emerging in an allegation from Krishna Balaram Swami (KB swami) -- who claims to have been poisoned by this cadre; -- Since we all know that both Bhakti Charu swami and Hansadutta das were in the same room when SRILA PRABHUPADA also complained of being poisoned.
Why is it that these two same individuals were at the scene of two separate and independent poison complaints? This is either an astronomical coincidence -- or it points to these two people knowing much more about the use of poison than they are revealing. I also find it odd that both of them are so vehemently opposed to the idea poison is being used, when even their own guru says -- it is.
It's almost like the saying -- lightning never strikes twice in the same place, except when it does. How can both of these people be at the SAME scene of two separate but totally similar events? I have until now tried to give the benefit of doubt to both Bhakti Charu swami and Hansadutta das, however since BOTH of their names have come up AGAIN in a subsequent poison complaint, even I have to admit to having increased doubts about these two gentlemen in regards to poison complaint number one and poison complaint number two. This is either a remarkable coincidence -- or it points to both of these individuals having much more knowledge about these incidents than they admit.
And it ALSO strikes me as just a little odd that both of them knew about Srila Prabhupada's complaining of poison -- and neither of them ever raised the alarm -- or ever even said a peep about it after the fact ... ]
My Mission (The Tip of the Iceberg)
Original account starts half ways down:
http://archived.krsna.org/MyMission/mymission11-3.php
Krishna Balarama Swami (ACBSP):
People sometimes ask us to write something about our own personal life, so we have decided to include some of this information in this ‘My Mission‘….
When we were in our Guru’s movement, many of our god brothers became very close friends with us, but when they found that some other god brothers created problems for us, they immediately turned against us. For example, His Holiness Mahanidhi Swami, His Holiness Jayadvaita Swami, and many others became very bitter with us.
[PADA: Right, because at one time both Mahanidhi and Jayadvaita were big supporters of the 11 bogus gurus and they saw "austere Indian devotees" as potential competition for the 11.]
Before turmoil began for us, they were very sweet with us and acted as friends and learnt many spiritual secrets and intricate spiritual philosophy, but when they saw we were facing some problem they suddenly turned against us. People with such natures are called artificial spiritualists and are condemned by the Vedic scriptures. The scriptures state that real friends come to aid at the time of difficulty. As it is stated in the Garuda Purana:
Apat-kate tu samprapte yan-mitram mitram eva tat
Brddhi-kale tu samprapte amitro’pi suhrda bhavet
“At the time of facing problems, any friend who remains a friend and comes to the aid of that friend is a real friend. But those who become friends and act as friends only during good times are not real friends because at good times even an enemy begins acting as a friend.”
[PADA: Well yes, the only people who ever wanted to kill us are our "former God brother friends." Hee hee, no one else wants us to die. Even the butcher in the supermarket gives me friendly waves as I walk past -- on my way to buy a bunch of kale, even they love the Vaishnavas.]
Just around the time when our godbrothers began giving us problems, we went to see our father in Vrindaban, asking him what will happen to us in the future. As he was a perfect devotee and a realized astrologer as well, he replied, “Don’t worry, you will shine like the sun and there will only be one sun in the sky. Your Guru made only one true disciple who will carry his spiritual legacy further. Your facing problems right now is just to make you become spiritually disciplined and strong for the future.
"The disciplic succession of your Guru will stay with you. There will always be some people who will desperately act to destroy you, but at that time there will also be some people who will come to your aid and protect you. God will always be on your side, don’t worry.” We have first hand experience that many of his statements have come true.
[PADA: Maybe, however we personally do not believe that Krishna Balarama swami is the next acharya, because for starters he says that his own acharya Srila Prabhupada deviated from shastra by making ritviks. No pure devotee has ever called his own guru a deviant? Neither do we think he is qualified to be a diksha guru and absorb the sins of others, rather we think if he does that it will cause him problems down the road -- just like it has for the other messiah wanna be's in ISKCON.]
For example, one time in the early eighties His Holiness Bhakti Charu Swami and Sarvabhavana Das had surprisingly fed us alone and sumptuously, along with sweet rasagullas in their apartment in Calcutta, India. A few hours after eating, we felt like knives were moving around inside our stomach.
[PADA: Same type of event ALSO happened to our close friend, he was invited for some "special prasadam" and then he felt like he too had eaten knives. Actually he had eaten thousands of little knives, finely powdered broken glass, and as such he was in a short time bleeding from the rectum -- which went on for weeks and nearly died from blood loss because he was "asking too many questions about Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint."]
We were in Calcutta to catch our flight to California. In that condition we reached Berkley, California where we were admitted in the hospital. When we were in the hospital, even after many months and after many tests, the doctors could not find anything wrong in our body.
[PADA: Experts at poisoning can give a victim something deadly that will pass out of their system in hours, but still kill the victim later. This leaves no recorded trace. That is what was being done allegedly in jails during Indira Gandhi's rule. One of the people involved in Srila Prabhupada's complaint of poison was supposedly Chand Swami, who apparently was expert at administering poisons that cannot be detected afterwards. So it would make sense that a person could be poisoned by experts -- a type of poisoning where the poison is eliminated from the body within hours but the effects continued. It's quite possible this expertise was applied here.]
Seeing our situation, the GBC Guru of the Berkley temple at that time, His Holiness Hansaduta Swami, sent us to the Manila temple in the Philippines where Chakravarti das and his wife (Dinasarana dd) were living. We were very sick. Chakravarti and his wife took us to doctor Baskara and secretly told him to put us to sleep forever.
[PADA: And Tamal said to Satsvarupa in December 1977 "Srila Prabhupada wanted us to give him something to make him disappear" (he wanted to be poisoned). Of course this begs the question, if Hansadutta knew about various techniques of poisoning opponents, did he also know that Srila Prabhupada had been poisoned? And how could he not know that Srila Prabhupada was discussing being poisoned, when he was in the same area at the same time?]
Doctor Baskara, while injecting the lethal drug in us, told us to think about beautiful ocean waves and nice dancing girls on the beach, etc. Chakravarti das and his wife were both present next to our hospital bed in doctor Baskara’s hospital in Manila and were chanting the Hare Krsna Mahamantra loudly. We cannot remember what happened next.
But Hansaduta Swami, a GBC leader and Guru for ISKCON, was in California and he phoned His Holiness Svarupa Damodara Swami, another GBC Guru for ISKCON, and told him that Krsna Balaram Swami was dead. Later, when His Holiness Svarupa Damodar Swami met us in Calcutta, India, he was shocked upon seeing that we were alive. He said, “Hansaduta told me that you were dead.”
[PADA: After reports were made about Swarupa Damodar maharaja having alleged gay affairs, he suddenly came down with a mystery illness that almost killed him -- and left him saying he had the sensation that half of his body was being paralyzed from time to time. He would wake up and not be able to get out of bed etc. Same thing, doctors were mystified.
Of course he and his followers started saying he had absorbed too much karma and he quit initiating for a spell. Ravindra Swarupa said at the time, there is no need to remove Swarupa Damodar because -- he is already being punished by getting very sick. However! Some folks also thought he may have ingested some heavy toxins for him to get that ill so quickly out of nowhere?
*** Then again after Suhotra swami began to challenge the GBC with some "questions" -- he died suddenly at Mayapura.
*** And when Gaura govinda began to challenge the GBC -- he also died suddenly at Mayapura. And some of his followers wrote to tell me they think he had been poisoned. Of course poison is not always a weapon of choice ...
*** Chatur Bahu's murder was considered as an inside job.
*** Randal Gorby's house exploding was considered as done by New Vrndavana,
*** Taru's disappeared and was later found buried in New Vrndavana.
*** Chakradhari was an inside job.
*** Jeeva was found shot to death, considered an inside job.
*** Sulochana was a New Vrndavana / Los Angeles hit.
*** Vrndavana temple president Kadamba shooting was an inside job, even he says that.
*** Kheelan shotgun murder was an inside job.
*** Joe Sanchez house shot with multiple shot guns for questioning crimes.
*** Mahamsa told Hrdayananda that he thought he would be killed for questioning ...
*** Kulashekhara was beaten almost to death by Bhakti Tirtha disciples.
*** Woman who complained Bhakti tirtha was hitting on her -- was killed.
*** Sridhara Maharaja people were told his life was in danger.
*** Narayana Maharaja said he wanted only trusted people to cook for him.
*** PADA editor has lost count of death threats we get.
(ETC)
Strange that people who challenge / ask questions / end up dead?
Lord Krsna had other plans for us, that is why we survived this incident. The statement rakhe hari mare ke, “If Lord Krsna wants to protect someone, then who is there in this world that can kill that person?” is exactly true in our personal experience. Lord Krsna wanted us to work for Him and help in His mission, which is why He kept us alive.
[PADA: Hee hee, that is also what I have said all along, these GBC goondas wanted me to die, but it was not destined.]
Later, we reached Vrindaban where, in due course of time, by consuming Ayurvedic medicines, we were cured. Our whole bodily color was like a yellow squash or the color of yellow lemon for several months. A person from Holland, who was not even a devotee at all, came to our aid in Manila and brought us there to Vrindaban, helping us in every way. This was our firsthand experience that when somebody wants to destroy us, there will always be somebody who wants to protect us.
[PADA: Right, well the police and FBI saved me from the very same people.]
Once, we were staying in a cabin in the forest of West Virginia, getting ready to publish our Vaisnava Kantha Hara book. One of our Caucasian godbrothers, Sriman Dharma das, was our secretary. Mr. Michael Richardson (now Mukunda das), had just joined us to become a devotee. Suddenly we heard guns shooting towards us. Dharma das became so frightened that he was shaking like a leaf on a tree in the wind.
We prayed to Lord Krsna and suddenly Lord Nrsimhadeva came upon Michael Richardson and he ran towards those people who were shooting guns at our cabin, shouting at the top of his lungs, “You want to shoot a Vrajavasi Brahmana Sanyasi?!! You have to shoot me first, then you can shoot him!! You have to kill me first!!” Saying these words, he ran towards them and stopped them from shooting at us. He found out from them that an ISKCON GBC leader, Sriman Rupanuga Prabhu, told them to do this.
[PADA: For Rupanuga to apparently order bullets to be flying around shows reckless regard for the lives of others, never mind that Shastra says anyone who terrorizes a resident of Vrndavana has to go to the lowest regions to suffer, because it is forbidden to terrorize such beings, even the ones you disagree with. I may not agree with Krishna Balaram swami on some issues, but I would never order a bunch of bullets to be shot in his direction to terrorize him and his party?
Of course, in another incident when a "guru" was wildly shooting his guns into the air -- one of his bullets came hurling back down to earth and landed right into the back bone spine of a neighbor's cow about half mile away, and it killed the cow. The farmer next door knew exactly who would be responsible ... Shooting bullets around is not recommended for Vaishnavas, really, hee hee.
And this is the same problem we have with GBC sympathizers like Prahlad das, he says we need to get the GBC goondas to come and beat and kill the devotees who do not agree with him, because he thinks and acts like them. He is exactly like the GBC, he also wants to terrorize Krishna's devotees by having them beaten and killed. Then he wonders why we have gone to the police to get help when his program viciously attacks women and children?
He is not only another GBC goonda, he admits he is working with them. Of course nowadays Prahlad das is openly saying he is angry seeing that five year old children are eating, clearly, he wants to see small children die. Why are these vaishnava and children hating demons posing as Vaishnavas, that is always the question we get?
Anyway! Our good friend Rupanuga seems to have much more knowledge about criminal events then his Cheshire Cat smile would indicate. How could he NOT know about all the banning, beating, molesting and murders that were going on all around him? He was swimming in an ocean of these activities -- and had no idea they were going on?
And now it turns out -- he was one of the instigating perps in this wave of criminality? He has been working hand in glove with the goonda squads from New Vrndavana. And Rupanuga was one of the people talking to Sulochana on the phone as the GBC's "liason," and then Sulochana suddenly gets whacked with .45 slugs in the head by these goondas. Another unlikely coincidence?
Rupanuga always paints himself as the poor innocent victim -- "Oh, I was just trying to correct things from within, I had no idea all these crimes were going on," but now it turns out -- he was himself an instigator and orchestrator of these very crimes himself. Mukunda Swami is another innocent angelic cherub who stood by and watched as a dissenter was repeatedly pushed under the water in the Ganges at Mayapur, in an attempt to terrorize this dissenter (he almost died of drowning). Yes, these are the guys that Sulochana said are -- the velvet gloves hiding the iron fists,]
Later, when we met Rupanuga in their Washington temple, we asked him the reason for him having them shoot guns at us. He replied that he wanted us to be scared and run from there. We told him we did not do anything against him in this life, why did he have to do this? He could not answer this question.
[PADA: Thats the problem, these guys like Rupanuga know more than PADA ever will know, but he keeps a lid on it to protect the regime's perps.]
Then we told him that this enmity must be from our past life. Hearing this, he put his head down and kept quiet. Devotees should not do such obnoxious deeds as Sriman Rupanuga Prabhu, or those who carried out his orders, did with us. Creating turmoil against another devotee is condemned by Lord Krsna in the twelfth chapter of the Bhagavad Gita. Now, Michael Richardson is spiritually initiated and, no matter what, he will never leave us in his entire life.
[PADA: Well that is good news actually, although I do not think KB swami is an authorized acharya, I'd rather have people following him than the machine gun swami sector. That right away makes our lives a whole lot safer. Sheesh!]
What we have mentioned in this “My Mission” is just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many similar misbehaviors of ISKCON leaders that we cannot mention them all here. This shows how much envy they carry in their heart for a devotee whom they know is better than them. In our heart, we do not feel like this. Even after experiencing such undesirable treatment from them, we think, ‘they do not know better.’ May the Supreme Lord forgive them.
[PADA: Good, yes what is the point at being angry at ignorance? The ignorant will go to the lower regions, that is what shastra says. Jesus said -- forgive them Lord, they know not what they are doing. Correct. KB swami has the right attitude in this regard. These folks will maybe escape the USA police, but they will not escape Krishna's police.]
We never think that they are our enemies. We never thought maliciously towards them. Nevertheless, to straighten a bent rod, hammering is required, therefore our statements may seem harsh, but they are just meant to straighten the rod-like people who are bent in the wrong direction by going astray from the spiritual path. Uncle Marich told Ravana, “If a Guru becomes scared of correcting the wrongs of others, he is allowing them to swiftly march to hell.”
[PADA: Right, we may have to get law enforcement involved to take action against criminal behavior, even if its done in the name of Vaishnavas. And we have done that to some extent, we helped with the FBI investigation that lead to the raid of New Vrndavana. We helped the Berkeley police with all sorts of crimes. We helped the FBI on other USA cases. Yep! Sometimes a person just has to get help from the "karmi police" to survive deviant people who think they are as good as God and they have the authority to beat or kill us (or to save innocent souls who are being victimized).
This of course is why the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur people are so infuriated with PADA, just like many GBC friendly folks are as well. Their hero Mukunda was beating his wife and so she went to the police for help, and that is what PADA recommends. And self-evidently they do not like this policy since we encourage people like her to do that, because the police know that mistreating women and children is not only wrong, its a crime. Anyone who gets legal / police help to save women and children from victimization is condemned by these people, apparently because they want the abuses to continue without being checked.
In other words, they want victimization of women and children to have no checks and balances on these odious behaviors, and they also want their women and child abusing pals to have no checks and balances. Then their hero Mukunda goes to Vrndavana where he is having illicit sex with a woman he meets there, and the children in the next room are hearing all his gross sex groaning, bumping and grinding sex noises. No wonder they are against the people who say this victimization of women and children is wrong, since their hero is a victimizer himself.
Yep, how did you guess, as soon as PADA or Bangalore, or anyone else takes the deviant guru's club to actual court, then its the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur crowd who are all crying like babies, "oh forsooth, someone is attacking our favorite hokey pokester pooja program." Sheesh! Gimme a kleenex already!
Anyway! We sometimes just MIGHT have to get outside law enforcement involved to save women and children from animals who are eating them up wholesale. KB swami is correct, all of these people who victimize devotees, women and children, are swiftly marching off to hell. We need not push them along, they are already destined there. Agreed! At the same time we wished that KB swami and ilk would have helped us ALL ALONG to get legal help -- starting a long time ago -- especially in India, because its seems there has not been much FIR reports made there about anything.]
That is why Lord Krsna used the first word in the Sixteenth Chapter of the Bhagavad Gita, “abhayam”, meaning fearlessness is the quality of a real devotee, who is not afraid of correcting someone, in whatever way it takes, whom he thinks should go to the spiritual world.
One of the main qualities of a real devotee is to forgive and forget the past and carry on with devotional service. Even though we experienced such obnoxious treatment from ISKCON people, we still desire to help them to improve spiritually. Regardless of the scriptural statement, ‘a devotee may forgive one for committed offenses, but Lord Krsna does not,’ I pray for those who knowingly or unknowingly did damage to us that Lord Krsna may forgive them, thinking that Lord Krsna listens to His real devotee’s prayers.
At present, ISKCON has gone astray from the spiritual path. Those who live in ISKCON, those who follow ISKCON, and those who live outside of ISKCON but have an ISKCON style mentality, need to make changes in their spiritual path or else their time spent in the name of spiritual life will have been wasted. At present, ISKCON has gone totally wrong spiritually, including the rtvik section of ISKCON, which we have discussed in one of our previous My Missions.
Neither the Gurus nor the disciples of ISKCON can prove that they can go back to Godhead, but we can prove with scriptural evidence that their degradation is certain after their death. So why waste time in the name of spiritual life under such degrading people? ISKCON leaders are determined to remain as they are but those who claim to be smart, sincere, and seriously desire to go back to Godhead should carefully consider changing and take the required necessary steps to obtain liberation from material existence. We are always open to extend our help to the sincere.
[PADA: Well good, except you are not going to be here forever KB swami, after you are gone people will still need to connect to a pure devotee - and we say that is Srila Prabhupada and his books. You are not going to replace him and his vani, this is never going to happen, and you will be gone and only he and his vani will continue. ys pd]
Thanks for posting original article Prabhupadanugas eu
And it ALSO strikes me as just a little odd that both of them knew about Srila Prabhupada's complaining of poison -- and neither of them ever raised the alarm -- or ever even said a peep about it after the fact ... ]
My Mission (The Tip of the Iceberg)
Original account starts half ways down:
http://archived.krsna.org/MyMission/mymission11-3.php
Krishna Balarama Swami (ACBSP):
People sometimes ask us to write something about our own personal life, so we have decided to include some of this information in this ‘My Mission‘….
When we were in our Guru’s movement, many of our god brothers became very close friends with us, but when they found that some other god brothers created problems for us, they immediately turned against us. For example, His Holiness Mahanidhi Swami, His Holiness Jayadvaita Swami, and many others became very bitter with us.
[PADA: Right, because at one time both Mahanidhi and Jayadvaita were big supporters of the 11 bogus gurus and they saw "austere Indian devotees" as potential competition for the 11.]
Before turmoil began for us, they were very sweet with us and acted as friends and learnt many spiritual secrets and intricate spiritual philosophy, but when they saw we were facing some problem they suddenly turned against us. People with such natures are called artificial spiritualists and are condemned by the Vedic scriptures. The scriptures state that real friends come to aid at the time of difficulty. As it is stated in the Garuda Purana:
Apat-kate tu samprapte yan-mitram mitram eva tat
Brddhi-kale tu samprapte amitro’pi suhrda bhavet
“At the time of facing problems, any friend who remains a friend and comes to the aid of that friend is a real friend. But those who become friends and act as friends only during good times are not real friends because at good times even an enemy begins acting as a friend.”
[PADA: Well yes, the only people who ever wanted to kill us are our "former God brother friends." Hee hee, no one else wants us to die. Even the butcher in the supermarket gives me friendly waves as I walk past -- on my way to buy a bunch of kale, even they love the Vaishnavas.]
Just around the time when our godbrothers began giving us problems, we went to see our father in Vrindaban, asking him what will happen to us in the future. As he was a perfect devotee and a realized astrologer as well, he replied, “Don’t worry, you will shine like the sun and there will only be one sun in the sky. Your Guru made only one true disciple who will carry his spiritual legacy further. Your facing problems right now is just to make you become spiritually disciplined and strong for the future.
"The disciplic succession of your Guru will stay with you. There will always be some people who will desperately act to destroy you, but at that time there will also be some people who will come to your aid and protect you. God will always be on your side, don’t worry.” We have first hand experience that many of his statements have come true.
[PADA: Maybe, however we personally do not believe that Krishna Balarama swami is the next acharya, because for starters he says that his own acharya Srila Prabhupada deviated from shastra by making ritviks. No pure devotee has ever called his own guru a deviant? Neither do we think he is qualified to be a diksha guru and absorb the sins of others, rather we think if he does that it will cause him problems down the road -- just like it has for the other messiah wanna be's in ISKCON.]
For example, one time in the early eighties His Holiness Bhakti Charu Swami and Sarvabhavana Das had surprisingly fed us alone and sumptuously, along with sweet rasagullas in their apartment in Calcutta, India. A few hours after eating, we felt like knives were moving around inside our stomach.
[PADA: Same type of event ALSO happened to our close friend, he was invited for some "special prasadam" and then he felt like he too had eaten knives. Actually he had eaten thousands of little knives, finely powdered broken glass, and as such he was in a short time bleeding from the rectum -- which went on for weeks and nearly died from blood loss because he was "asking too many questions about Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint."]
We were in Calcutta to catch our flight to California. In that condition we reached Berkley, California where we were admitted in the hospital. When we were in the hospital, even after many months and after many tests, the doctors could not find anything wrong in our body.
[PADA: Experts at poisoning can give a victim something deadly that will pass out of their system in hours, but still kill the victim later. This leaves no recorded trace. That is what was being done allegedly in jails during Indira Gandhi's rule. One of the people involved in Srila Prabhupada's complaint of poison was supposedly Chand Swami, who apparently was expert at administering poisons that cannot be detected afterwards. So it would make sense that a person could be poisoned by experts -- a type of poisoning where the poison is eliminated from the body within hours but the effects continued. It's quite possible this expertise was applied here.]
Seeing our situation, the GBC Guru of the Berkley temple at that time, His Holiness Hansaduta Swami, sent us to the Manila temple in the Philippines where Chakravarti das and his wife (Dinasarana dd) were living. We were very sick. Chakravarti and his wife took us to doctor Baskara and secretly told him to put us to sleep forever.
Hansadutta das (Hans Kary)
[PADA: And Tamal said to Satsvarupa in December 1977 "Srila Prabhupada wanted us to give him something to make him disappear" (he wanted to be poisoned). Of course this begs the question, if Hansadutta knew about various techniques of poisoning opponents, did he also know that Srila Prabhupada had been poisoned? And how could he not know that Srila Prabhupada was discussing being poisoned, when he was in the same area at the same time?]
Doctor Baskara, while injecting the lethal drug in us, told us to think about beautiful ocean waves and nice dancing girls on the beach, etc. Chakravarti das and his wife were both present next to our hospital bed in doctor Baskara’s hospital in Manila and were chanting the Hare Krsna Mahamantra loudly. We cannot remember what happened next.
But Hansaduta Swami, a GBC leader and Guru for ISKCON, was in California and he phoned His Holiness Svarupa Damodara Swami, another GBC Guru for ISKCON, and told him that Krsna Balaram Swami was dead. Later, when His Holiness Svarupa Damodar Swami met us in Calcutta, India, he was shocked upon seeing that we were alive. He said, “Hansaduta told me that you were dead.”
Bhakti Caru swami encouraging neophytes to absorb sins and make pretend they are another Jesus, which means they often get sick, and die. Actually we could almost say he is de facto poisoning people by telling them to commit acts that would cause them to get very ill and die. Bhakti Caru certainly knows that it is forbidden for neophytes to act as gurus and absorb sins, because they can get sick and even die, yet he tells hundreds of people to do just that? He is doing exactly that right here in the photo above, go ahead, absorb sins -- and get sick and die.
Of course he and his followers started saying he had absorbed too much karma and he quit initiating for a spell. Ravindra Swarupa said at the time, there is no need to remove Swarupa Damodar because -- he is already being punished by getting very sick. However! Some folks also thought he may have ingested some heavy toxins for him to get that ill so quickly out of nowhere?
*** Then again after Suhotra swami began to challenge the GBC with some "questions" -- he died suddenly at Mayapura.
*** And when Gaura govinda began to challenge the GBC -- he also died suddenly at Mayapura. And some of his followers wrote to tell me they think he had been poisoned. Of course poison is not always a weapon of choice ...
*** Chatur Bahu's murder was considered as an inside job.
*** Randal Gorby's house exploding was considered as done by New Vrndavana,
*** Taru's disappeared and was later found buried in New Vrndavana.
*** Chakradhari was an inside job.
*** Jeeva was found shot to death, considered an inside job.
*** Sulochana was a New Vrndavana / Los Angeles hit.
*** Vrndavana temple president Kadamba shooting was an inside job, even he says that.
*** Kheelan shotgun murder was an inside job.
*** Joe Sanchez house shot with multiple shot guns for questioning crimes.
*** Mahamsa told Hrdayananda that he thought he would be killed for questioning ...
*** Kulashekhara was beaten almost to death by Bhakti Tirtha disciples.
*** Woman who complained Bhakti tirtha was hitting on her -- was killed.
*** Sridhara Maharaja people were told his life was in danger.
*** Narayana Maharaja said he wanted only trusted people to cook for him.
*** PADA editor has lost count of death threats we get.
(ETC)
Strange that people who challenge / ask questions / end up dead?
Lord Krsna had other plans for us, that is why we survived this incident. The statement rakhe hari mare ke, “If Lord Krsna wants to protect someone, then who is there in this world that can kill that person?” is exactly true in our personal experience. Lord Krsna wanted us to work for Him and help in His mission, which is why He kept us alive.
[PADA: Hee hee, that is also what I have said all along, these GBC goondas wanted me to die, but it was not destined.]
Later, we reached Vrindaban where, in due course of time, by consuming Ayurvedic medicines, we were cured. Our whole bodily color was like a yellow squash or the color of yellow lemon for several months. A person from Holland, who was not even a devotee at all, came to our aid in Manila and brought us there to Vrindaban, helping us in every way. This was our firsthand experience that when somebody wants to destroy us, there will always be somebody who wants to protect us.
[PADA: Right, well the police and FBI saved me from the very same people.]
Once, we were staying in a cabin in the forest of West Virginia, getting ready to publish our Vaisnava Kantha Hara book. One of our Caucasian godbrothers, Sriman Dharma das, was our secretary. Mr. Michael Richardson (now Mukunda das), had just joined us to become a devotee. Suddenly we heard guns shooting towards us. Dharma das became so frightened that he was shaking like a leaf on a tree in the wind.
We prayed to Lord Krsna and suddenly Lord Nrsimhadeva came upon Michael Richardson and he ran towards those people who were shooting guns at our cabin, shouting at the top of his lungs, “You want to shoot a Vrajavasi Brahmana Sanyasi?!! You have to shoot me first, then you can shoot him!! You have to kill me first!!” Saying these words, he ran towards them and stopped them from shooting at us. He found out from them that an ISKCON GBC leader, Sriman Rupanuga Prabhu, told them to do this.
[PADA: For Rupanuga to apparently order bullets to be flying around shows reckless regard for the lives of others, never mind that Shastra says anyone who terrorizes a resident of Vrndavana has to go to the lowest regions to suffer, because it is forbidden to terrorize such beings, even the ones you disagree with. I may not agree with Krishna Balaram swami on some issues, but I would never order a bunch of bullets to be shot in his direction to terrorize him and his party?
Of course, in another incident when a "guru" was wildly shooting his guns into the air -- one of his bullets came hurling back down to earth and landed right into the back bone spine of a neighbor's cow about half mile away, and it killed the cow. The farmer next door knew exactly who would be responsible ... Shooting bullets around is not recommended for Vaishnavas, really, hee hee.
And this is the same problem we have with GBC sympathizers like Prahlad das, he says we need to get the GBC goondas to come and beat and kill the devotees who do not agree with him, because he thinks and acts like them. He is exactly like the GBC, he also wants to terrorize Krishna's devotees by having them beaten and killed. Then he wonders why we have gone to the police to get help when his program viciously attacks women and children?
He is not only another GBC goonda, he admits he is working with them. Of course nowadays Prahlad das is openly saying he is angry seeing that five year old children are eating, clearly, he wants to see small children die. Why are these vaishnava and children hating demons posing as Vaishnavas, that is always the question we get?
Anyway! Our good friend Rupanuga seems to have much more knowledge about criminal events then his Cheshire Cat smile would indicate. How could he NOT know about all the banning, beating, molesting and murders that were going on all around him? He was swimming in an ocean of these activities -- and had no idea they were going on?
And now it turns out -- he was one of the instigating perps in this wave of criminality? He has been working hand in glove with the goonda squads from New Vrndavana. And Rupanuga was one of the people talking to Sulochana on the phone as the GBC's "liason," and then Sulochana suddenly gets whacked with .45 slugs in the head by these goondas. Another unlikely coincidence?
Rupanuga always paints himself as the poor innocent victim -- "Oh, I was just trying to correct things from within, I had no idea all these crimes were going on," but now it turns out -- he was himself an instigator and orchestrator of these very crimes himself. Mukunda Swami is another innocent angelic cherub who stood by and watched as a dissenter was repeatedly pushed under the water in the Ganges at Mayapur, in an attempt to terrorize this dissenter (he almost died of drowning). Yes, these are the guys that Sulochana said are -- the velvet gloves hiding the iron fists,]
Later, when we met Rupanuga in their Washington temple, we asked him the reason for him having them shoot guns at us. He replied that he wanted us to be scared and run from there. We told him we did not do anything against him in this life, why did he have to do this? He could not answer this question.
[PADA: Thats the problem, these guys like Rupanuga know more than PADA ever will know, but he keeps a lid on it to protect the regime's perps.]
Then we told him that this enmity must be from our past life. Hearing this, he put his head down and kept quiet. Devotees should not do such obnoxious deeds as Sriman Rupanuga Prabhu, or those who carried out his orders, did with us. Creating turmoil against another devotee is condemned by Lord Krsna in the twelfth chapter of the Bhagavad Gita. Now, Michael Richardson is spiritually initiated and, no matter what, he will never leave us in his entire life.
[PADA: Well that is good news actually, although I do not think KB swami is an authorized acharya, I'd rather have people following him than the machine gun swami sector. That right away makes our lives a whole lot safer. Sheesh!]
What we have mentioned in this “My Mission” is just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many similar misbehaviors of ISKCON leaders that we cannot mention them all here. This shows how much envy they carry in their heart for a devotee whom they know is better than them. In our heart, we do not feel like this. Even after experiencing such undesirable treatment from them, we think, ‘they do not know better.’ May the Supreme Lord forgive them.
[PADA: Good, yes what is the point at being angry at ignorance? The ignorant will go to the lower regions, that is what shastra says. Jesus said -- forgive them Lord, they know not what they are doing. Correct. KB swami has the right attitude in this regard. These folks will maybe escape the USA police, but they will not escape Krishna's police.]
We never think that they are our enemies. We never thought maliciously towards them. Nevertheless, to straighten a bent rod, hammering is required, therefore our statements may seem harsh, but they are just meant to straighten the rod-like people who are bent in the wrong direction by going astray from the spiritual path. Uncle Marich told Ravana, “If a Guru becomes scared of correcting the wrongs of others, he is allowing them to swiftly march to hell.”
[PADA: Right, we may have to get law enforcement involved to take action against criminal behavior, even if its done in the name of Vaishnavas. And we have done that to some extent, we helped with the FBI investigation that lead to the raid of New Vrndavana. We helped the Berkeley police with all sorts of crimes. We helped the FBI on other USA cases. Yep! Sometimes a person just has to get help from the "karmi police" to survive deviant people who think they are as good as God and they have the authority to beat or kill us (or to save innocent souls who are being victimized).
This of course is why the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur people are so infuriated with PADA, just like many GBC friendly folks are as well. Their hero Mukunda was beating his wife and so she went to the police for help, and that is what PADA recommends. And self-evidently they do not like this policy since we encourage people like her to do that, because the police know that mistreating women and children is not only wrong, its a crime. Anyone who gets legal / police help to save women and children from victimization is condemned by these people, apparently because they want the abuses to continue without being checked.
In other words, they want victimization of women and children to have no checks and balances on these odious behaviors, and they also want their women and child abusing pals to have no checks and balances. Then their hero Mukunda goes to Vrndavana where he is having illicit sex with a woman he meets there, and the children in the next room are hearing all his gross sex groaning, bumping and grinding sex noises. No wonder they are against the people who say this victimization of women and children is wrong, since their hero is a victimizer himself.
Yep, how did you guess, as soon as PADA or Bangalore, or anyone else takes the deviant guru's club to actual court, then its the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur crowd who are all crying like babies, "oh forsooth, someone is attacking our favorite hokey pokester pooja program." Sheesh! Gimme a kleenex already!
Anyway! We sometimes just MIGHT have to get outside law enforcement involved to save women and children from animals who are eating them up wholesale. KB swami is correct, all of these people who victimize devotees, women and children, are swiftly marching off to hell. We need not push them along, they are already destined there. Agreed! At the same time we wished that KB swami and ilk would have helped us ALL ALONG to get legal help -- starting a long time ago -- especially in India, because its seems there has not been much FIR reports made there about anything.]
That is why Lord Krsna used the first word in the Sixteenth Chapter of the Bhagavad Gita, “abhayam”, meaning fearlessness is the quality of a real devotee, who is not afraid of correcting someone, in whatever way it takes, whom he thinks should go to the spiritual world.
One of the main qualities of a real devotee is to forgive and forget the past and carry on with devotional service. Even though we experienced such obnoxious treatment from ISKCON people, we still desire to help them to improve spiritually. Regardless of the scriptural statement, ‘a devotee may forgive one for committed offenses, but Lord Krsna does not,’ I pray for those who knowingly or unknowingly did damage to us that Lord Krsna may forgive them, thinking that Lord Krsna listens to His real devotee’s prayers.
At present, ISKCON has gone astray from the spiritual path. Those who live in ISKCON, those who follow ISKCON, and those who live outside of ISKCON but have an ISKCON style mentality, need to make changes in their spiritual path or else their time spent in the name of spiritual life will have been wasted. At present, ISKCON has gone totally wrong spiritually, including the rtvik section of ISKCON, which we have discussed in one of our previous My Missions.
Neither the Gurus nor the disciples of ISKCON can prove that they can go back to Godhead, but we can prove with scriptural evidence that their degradation is certain after their death. So why waste time in the name of spiritual life under such degrading people? ISKCON leaders are determined to remain as they are but those who claim to be smart, sincere, and seriously desire to go back to Godhead should carefully consider changing and take the required necessary steps to obtain liberation from material existence. We are always open to extend our help to the sincere.
[PADA: Well good, except you are not going to be here forever KB swami, after you are gone people will still need to connect to a pure devotee - and we say that is Srila Prabhupada and his books. You are not going to replace him and his vani, this is never going to happen, and you will be gone and only he and his vani will continue. ys pd]
Taking karma without authority does not end well.
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