Devotee (2): They call it love.
Srila Prabhupāda: This is love? If you say, "Prabhupāda, I love you. Now I want to kill you. Now I will kill you." Please don't love me! (laughter) Please get out. "I love you so much that I will kill you."
Devotee (2): They like to keep the, Christ, the deity of Christ, they keep him nailed on the cross. They think that's very...
Srila Prabhupāda: Therefore you see all the pictures in the Church, he is carrying the cross, and he is pushing, pushed by the government men. How miserable condition they show.
Devotee (2): They don't have any...
Srila Prabhupāda: They do not have picture, just like we show Krishna is enjoying. Such rotten things. That is going on in religion. They love, they love means they want to see their lovable suffering so much, you see. Only then (indistinct). This, we want to see our lovable object that He is enjoying. Young boy, (indistinct) gopīs, and nice night, playing flute, He's enjoying. That we want to see. And they want to see that lovable he is suffering. How they can see it, if there is love?
His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Founder-Acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness
Room Conversation -- Honolulu, May 20, 1976
Srila Prabhupāda: This is love? If you say, "Prabhupāda, I love you. Now I want to kill you. Now I will kill you." Please don't love me! (laughter) Please get out. "I love you so much that I will kill you."
Devotee (2): They like to keep the, Christ, the deity of Christ, they keep him nailed on the cross. They think that's very...
Srila Prabhupāda: Therefore you see all the pictures in the Church, he is carrying the cross, and he is pushing, pushed by the government men. How miserable condition they show.
Devotee (2): They don't have any...
Srila Prabhupāda: They do not have picture, just like we show Krishna is enjoying. Such rotten things. That is going on in religion. They love, they love means they want to see their lovable suffering so much, you see. Only then (indistinct). This, we want to see our lovable object that He is enjoying. Young boy, (indistinct) gopīs, and nice night, playing flute, He's enjoying. That we want to see. And they want to see that lovable he is suffering. How they can see it, if there is love?
His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Founder-Acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness
Room Conversation -- Honolulu, May 20, 1976
Whenever ISKCON folks talk of Jesus ulterior motive is that Jesus is humbug fiction. They figure Jesus was either a Palestinian or actually didnt exist at all. Of course Prabhupada never said such a thing but since Christ's followers don't follow the 10 commandments it's easy to declare Christ as humbug fiction. In this way they have accomplished why Christ still can initiate and Prabhupada can't.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, as soon ISKCONites accept Christ as bona fide they have to admit that their false guru program is below even modern Christianity standard.
Thats what they call genuine guru
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