Bhakta Shishir Katote update
OK now his friends are telling us that it is not unusual for sannyasas to fall down, because sannyasas fell down all the time in ISKCON when Srila Prabhupada was here. And that explains all the falling down of leaders of ISKCON after 1977. So they "defeated me." Wait a minute? Their main excuse for their fall downs up till now (from 1977 - 2013) was:
(A) These leaders are just like Jesus (not just sannyasas) but they are His Divine Grace Srila Vishnupadas, Krishnapadas, Acharyapadas, Bhaktipadas, Tirthapadas etc. And their worship was ENFORCED and established by folks like Vipramukhya and Danavir, who said we have to worship these people as pure devotees, just like they are another Jesus incarnated.
(B) Hence, they are able to accept sins just like Jesus.
(C) Ooops! And as such, they have accepted too many sins.
(D) And so now, these accumulated sins are making them fall down?
What kind of foolish children believe such tales, that a person like Jesus has "accepted too many sins"? Well Bhakta Shishir's program does!
Of course, in 1990 the GBC also said their gurus have taken so many sins, now their messiahs are full of ghosts, and this is causing the Lord's messiahs to fail. So they hired Chitesvara to "ghost bust" their gurus. OK, but this does not explain, who told them they are like Jesus, and thus they can act as diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus, causing ghostly hauntings? Why would the Bhakta Shishir / GBC clan say that people like Jesus can fall because they are full of ghosts in the first place? And this begs the question:
Why would Jesus be full of ghosts, since He is a pure devotee? And what does that have to do with neophytes who cannot keep sannyasas standards?
Hello, Bhatka Shishir program, can you explain yourselves here and quit telling us children's fairy tales? This is great! If I rob a bank, I can say to the judge, -- Here is what really happened, I am like Jesus, I took too many sins, I thus got full of ghosts, so I fell down and robbed banks, so I am innocent! Bhakta Shishir is reading what shastra exactly, the MAFIA tales?
And really again, why is Bhakta Shishir, an alleged scholar, falling for all this bogus GBC rubbish, that the messiahs from God are taking too many sins, so they are falling down, therefore, they need to be ghost busted? Even children do not believe such nonsense programs, only great scholarly people like -- Bhakta Shishir and his oneiskcon clan? And the fact that messiahs are falling down due to ghosts, this has "defeated" me"? Really? Where is this stated, that the messiahs from God are taking too many sins, and are thus falling down, and that they are then -- full of ghosts from taking all these sins? Where is any of this described in the shastra? The guru has to surrender to Pagal Baba's ghost busting? Why doesn't Bhakta Shishir ever tell us what shastra this rubbish is coming from?
(A) These leaders are just like Jesus (not just sannyasas) but they are His Divine Grace Srila Vishnupadas, Krishnapadas, Acharyapadas, Bhaktipadas, Tirthapadas etc. And their worship was ENFORCED and established by folks like Vipramukhya and Danavir, who said we have to worship these people as pure devotees, just like they are another Jesus incarnated.
(B) Hence, they are able to accept sins just like Jesus.
(C) Ooops! And as such, they have accepted too many sins.
(D) And so now, these accumulated sins are making them fall down?
What kind of foolish children believe such tales, that a person like Jesus has "accepted too many sins"? Well Bhakta Shishir's program does!
Of course, in 1990 the GBC also said their gurus have taken so many sins, now their messiahs are full of ghosts, and this is causing the Lord's messiahs to fail. So they hired Chitesvara to "ghost bust" their gurus. OK, but this does not explain, who told them they are like Jesus, and thus they can act as diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus, causing ghostly hauntings? Why would the Bhakta Shishir / GBC clan say that people like Jesus can fall because they are full of ghosts in the first place? And this begs the question:
Why would Jesus be full of ghosts, since He is a pure devotee? And what does that have to do with neophytes who cannot keep sannyasas standards?
Hello, Bhatka Shishir program, can you explain yourselves here and quit telling us children's fairy tales? This is great! If I rob a bank, I can say to the judge, -- Here is what really happened, I am like Jesus, I took too many sins, I thus got full of ghosts, so I fell down and robbed banks, so I am innocent! Bhakta Shishir is reading what shastra exactly, the MAFIA tales?
And really again, why is Bhakta Shishir, an alleged scholar, falling for all this bogus GBC rubbish, that the messiahs from God are taking too many sins, so they are falling down, therefore, they need to be ghost busted? Even children do not believe such nonsense programs, only great scholarly people like -- Bhakta Shishir and his oneiskcon clan? And the fact that messiahs are falling down due to ghosts, this has "defeated" me"? Really? Where is this stated, that the messiahs from God are taking too many sins, and are thus falling down, and that they are then -- full of ghosts from taking all these sins? Where is any of this described in the shastra? The guru has to surrender to Pagal Baba's ghost busting? Why doesn't Bhakta Shishir ever tell us what shastra this rubbish is coming from?
OK, notice the "bait and switch" here: (1) The leaders are uttama acharyas like Jesus, ooops, nope (2) they are like the regular (less than kanistha) sannyasas who were falling down prior to 1977? Can you people at least try to get your story straight first of all -- before -- you present it?
Bhakta Shishir's group also forgets something else very important, Srila Prabhupada suspended sannyasa in January of 1977, saying that his leaders are making a laughingstock of sannyasa. So, suspend the sannyasa order, and let these people get married. That was in January of 1977, now according to the Bhakti Vikas swami program, on May 28th 1977 (just a few months after January 1977), Srila Prabhupada had ordered the SAME people who are unfit for sannyasa to be his "guru successors." They are falling down left, right and center, therefore, they are the Lord's successor acharyas? Do these people ever read any shastra? People who are not fit for sannyasa are not fit to be acharyas, duh!
Does Bhakta Shishir's program make any sense at all? They are not fit for sannyasa, they are falling down left right and center, they are often engaged in illicit sex, they are even falling into drugs, and even even some of them were eating beef steaks, and so on, therefore, they are fit to be God's successor messiahs? And these people claim to understand what the Goswamis are writing? Where do the Goswamis say that the acharyas are falling down left, right and center? That people who are not fit for sannyasa are acharyas? OK Shishir prabhu, we are waiting for your replies, you have to specifically address these points. Of course if you do not know the answers to any of this because you have never studied any actual shastra, fine. We will understand. ys pd
He is also the scholar who claims that there are so many ambiguities and contradictions in Srila Prabhupada's books that we must refer to the works of the Goswami's in order to rectify these ambiguities and therefore truly understand the Gaudiya philosophy. Pure insanity.
ReplyDeleteHe has written a couple articles like this. On OneIskcon, and on Akincana.com. And his "mentor" is RadhaKrsnadas Brahmacari, a disciple of Gopal Krishna. B.shisir says he aspires to take initiation from Radhakrsnadas, yet he has a photo of Bhakti Vikas Swami as a backround on his facebook page. Just an admirer of his I guess.
What kind of guru program is this anyway?
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/DqYjk3xNWJ4