http://www.oneiskcon.com/the-real-final-order-same-as-all-his-other-orders-part-one-2/
Drutakarma prabhu (Michael Cremo) is now trying to say that all of the disciples of Srila Prabhupada should be recognized as gurus. Even if this is a good idea, its a day late and a dollar short. The GBC has never implemented such a process. They said all along -- that only 11 of the disciples are going to be ISKCON's gurus, and we all have to promote the 11 as gurus, or leave. They never said the whole 5,000 are going to be the gurus of ISKCON, until -- just now?
This is good news, for the past 35 years the GBC has said we God brothers are demons, rascals, fools, deviants, and so on, and they had some of us beaten and even killed, now they are saying, ooops, we made a slight mistake, these God brothers are all gurus, and rati keli guru acharya assistants to Radharani!
Of course, the main problem is that when the 11 started falling into debauchery (such as -- illicit sex with men, women and children -- according to Drutakarma's pal Jayadvaita), then they said, all the 5,000 STILL has to promote even these debauchees as gurus, because it is common for gurus to fall down. And anyone who said gurus are not debauchees, was (and still is) kicked out. They have never explained how our parampara is full of such debauchery all of a sudden, when there are no examples of such odious behaviors in our parampara for the past millions of years?
In short, they never said all the 5,000 of us are going to be the gurus, as Drutakarma says is the original idea and order? No! They said the 11 are the EXCLUSIVE gurus because gurus are established by appointments and "2/3 show of hands voting" for gurus by the GBC etc. When did they ever say all of the disciples are going to be gurus, except for only very recently, and in these articles by people like Drutakarma?
Sorry, the 11 had almost all the rest of the 5,000 devotees banned, beat and assassinated, and so ISKCON is now "an empty vessel" as one of my God brothers said recently, and "its a ghost town" according to people like Lokanatha swami. Sorry, the idea that all the ISKCON devotees are gurus was never preached up to now, nor was it ever implemented, nor have the people who kicked us all out for not worshiping debauchees ever been removed from their posts for making this bogus policy? Nor has any of this ever been explained? Of course if the 5,000 are gurus, and they were all removed, if not banned, beat and killed, then that means, the GBC are guilty of attacking 5,000 other gurus! Hee hee, they are really scrambling for some explanation these days. ys pd
Drutakarma prabhu (Michael Cremo) is now trying to say that all of the disciples of Srila Prabhupada should be recognized as gurus. Even if this is a good idea, its a day late and a dollar short. The GBC has never implemented such a process. They said all along -- that only 11 of the disciples are going to be ISKCON's gurus, and we all have to promote the 11 as gurus, or leave. They never said the whole 5,000 are going to be the gurus of ISKCON, until -- just now?
This is good news, for the past 35 years the GBC has said we God brothers are demons, rascals, fools, deviants, and so on, and they had some of us beaten and even killed, now they are saying, ooops, we made a slight mistake, these God brothers are all gurus, and rati keli guru acharya assistants to Radharani!
Of course, the main problem is that when the 11 started falling into debauchery (such as -- illicit sex with men, women and children -- according to Drutakarma's pal Jayadvaita), then they said, all the 5,000 STILL has to promote even these debauchees as gurus, because it is common for gurus to fall down. And anyone who said gurus are not debauchees, was (and still is) kicked out. They have never explained how our parampara is full of such debauchery all of a sudden, when there are no examples of such odious behaviors in our parampara for the past millions of years?
In short, they never said all the 5,000 of us are going to be the gurus, as Drutakarma says is the original idea and order? No! They said the 11 are the EXCLUSIVE gurus because gurus are established by appointments and "2/3 show of hands voting" for gurus by the GBC etc. When did they ever say all of the disciples are going to be gurus, except for only very recently, and in these articles by people like Drutakarma?
Sorry, the 11 had almost all the rest of the 5,000 devotees banned, beat and assassinated, and so ISKCON is now "an empty vessel" as one of my God brothers said recently, and "its a ghost town" according to people like Lokanatha swami. Sorry, the idea that all the ISKCON devotees are gurus was never preached up to now, nor was it ever implemented, nor have the people who kicked us all out for not worshiping debauchees ever been removed from their posts for making this bogus policy? Nor has any of this ever been explained? Of course if the 5,000 are gurus, and they were all removed, if not banned, beat and killed, then that means, the GBC are guilty of attacking 5,000 other gurus! Hee hee, they are really scrambling for some explanation these days. ys pd
Apparently, http://www.oneiskcon.com/the-real-final-order-same-as-all-his-other-orders-part-one-2/ is an old article that OneISKCON.com re-published, and which has been thoroughly defeated by Krishnakant Prabhu back in 1998:
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