Monday, August 6, 2012

Where is guru appointment? (by Vidura dasa)

BY: VIDURA DAS — — Haribol Madhudvisa Prabhu and Gadadhara Prabhu. I feel that the points made in my previous email were not properly addressed if addressed at all. If you want to claim that there can be another initiating Diksa Guru under the system that Srila Prabhupada has set up for Iskcon, then please address those points. I have pasted them again below.

If the claim that Srila Prabhupada authorized Diksa Guru’s cannot some how be proven but rather stated over and over emphatically then it is 100% sentiment and also speculation at that. It seems that the real fanatic preachers are those without proof from Srila Prabhupada of their claims that He authorized any Diksa Guru’s to begin with.

Srila Prabhupada cannot be put in the same category of just any pure devotee. The fact is that Srila Prabhupada is the Acarya of our time. There may be many pure devotee’s, there may be none. That is not to say that Srila Prabhupada wasn’t “strong” enough to make one. That’s like saying: “since I am the fool that I am, and since I come from Lord Krsna, He must lack some strength.” Certainly that argument is highly offensive especially when applied to Srila Prabhupada. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur made only one pure devotee that we know of (Srila Prabhupada). Is that to say His Divine Grace was some how lacking in “strength”? This is nonsense speculation.
A pure devotee can become an Acarya just as a man can become A judge. The man, before becoming a judge must first be qualified in quality by knowing the law books and possessing the knowledge and ability. Then, after all that, before the man can actually be known as a judge, he must be duly appointed by the law. To simply state that a man is a judge just because he has the qualification is not sufficient. One must be authorized by the predecessor spiritual master. This is the final step in the process. It cannot be skipped. I may possess all of the qualities of a judge, I may know the law books like the back of my hand, but still, I am not a judge without being appointed by the law.

I would also like to thank Mahesh Prabhu for providing a nice quote regarding this matter. Here it is again:
“Prabhupada: Yes. I shall choose some guru. I shall SAY, “Now you become ACARYA. You become authorized.” I am waiting for that. You become all acarya. I retire completely. But the training must be complete.“

With that said, please show me proof where Srila Prabhupada appoints anyone to become Diksa Guru.
Ys, Vidura Das

1 comment:

  1. I bet Rocana can furnish you with the proof.He knows everything.he can write so many pages of various theories and defeat everyone.Maybe he with his great karma is automatically qualified and needs no appointment to become guru.Yes, he can decide who is qualified to become guru and who isn't . He is one of the people who appointed all these 'sex with women and children ' type acharyas.

    I think that multiple marriages and divorces are sure sign when someone is qualified to lead others materially and spiritually.

    That's it, finally I got it.Rocana das is the guru.He is the missing link!

    Let us stop this senseless debate now.We have our new ' qualified to be guru by karma' acharya.


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