Where are the living people?

PADA: Anyone who gives advice is a guru. There is however a difference, there is the vartma pradarsaka guru (who shows the way, but is not always self-realized). Dhruva's mother was a vartma pradarsaka guru, she told Dhruva he must worship God, and he did, and so he was liberated. His mother was not that advanced, so Dhruva asked the Vishnuduttas to take her back home along with him, and so they went and found her and bought her along too. Then again anyone who gives instruction is called a shiksha guru. For example, we had 240 shiksha guru devotees here in Berkeley in 1977, they were all preaching and giving shiksha and making new devotees all the time. Then the living guru program came along and they purged out 220 pople, so now we have 10 people left in the temple. And guess what, its a huge mess trying to keep the basics going here. Now there are no big harinamas, no puppet shows for the kids, they sold the farm, there are no college programs, no prasadam programs, all of that has stopped. There is hardly anyone who knows how to even sew for the deities here. This is because they kicked out all the living (shiksha) gurus who were doing all this work. If we need living people to preach, then we kick all the living people all out, what is that? This makes no sense at all? Living people are required, so lets remove 99.999 percent of the living people? And some temples have rats climbing on the altars at night because there is no one there to keep the place clean. So, we kicked all the living people out, now we have rats on the altars, and this is the better plan? I do not see any sense here? If we need living people, and we need to keep them, then why remove them en masse? ys pd