Thursday, October 27, 2011

Premature sannyasa a problem for ISKCON? ys pd

Jivatma dasa: Dear Maharajas, prabhus & Matajis,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

On Nov 6, 2011, Krishnakant, editor of Back to Prabhupada, posted a misleading & therefore offensive article called:

"Sannyasa ashram outlawed in ISKCON after 1977" at:  The article, based on quotes from 07/01/1977 is offensive because it implies disobedience on the part of the venerable, sincere disciples of Prabhupada who have, and will continue to take sannyasa "at the last stage of life" as instructed by Prabhupada on 23/01/1977.

[PADA: The main point is: Srila Prabhupada warned that his leaders were not fit for sannyasa, that they were not capable of following the standards of sannyasa, and as such -- that they were making ISKCON appear foolish, so he suspended sannyasa. All this this begs the self-evident question: Which current "venerable and sincere" sannyasa disciples are being discussed here? Why are none of them named or even one of them named?

At the present moment in "official ISKCON," it appears that all of the current "sannyasas" endorse the many years of various GBC annual reports, letters, lectures and numerous "position papers" which say: Gurus and acharyas fall into illusion; Gurus fall into illicit sex, drugs, alcohol etc; Indeed some of their "gurus" are now eating meat and so on. Of course these GBC papers blatantly defy one of the ten offenses: that one is forbidden to consider the guru as an ordinary man who can fall down.

In fact in 1980 the GBC wrote a paper entitled "The Mahajanas Have Difficulties" (penned by Satvarupa swami, Jayadvaita swami and Jaggadisha dasa) which says that even the greatest acharyas and mahajanas fall into illusion. This is only one example of tons of the GBC "sannyasa guru's" subsequent documents which say -- gurus are aften debauchees, in fact there are hundreds more letters, statements and documents, for example later on Jayadvaita swami summed up that in ISKCON some gurus are found to be "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and possibly children as well."

Hence, the current "sannyasas" of ISKCON are all apparently endorsing all of these huge stacks of annual GBC letters, lectures, annual reports and position papers which state that acharyas are most of the time debauchees, since most of their acharyas has fallen down. Are you saying these sannyasas and their alleged GBC endorsed "guru tattva" statements are bona fide? That is the first question we need to have answered. Next, we can then examine if the sannyasas that were made after 1977 have been failing left, right and center, because the warnings given by Srila Prabhupada about premature sannyasa were followed or not? ys pd]

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I was born in the darkest ignorance, and my spiritual master opened my eyes with the torch of knowledge. I offer my respectful obeisances unto him."
Prabhupada ki jaya!

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