Kicked out of ISKCON -- for glorifying Prabhupada!

[PADA NOTE: This is a good example of how we Prabhupadanugas are winning gradually: The GBC removes someone, and that person often ends up finding out about us Prabhupadanugas, and voila, we get a new convert. This has been going on for years and years, and that is why our numbers keep increasing. Of course, in the case of Bangalore, the GBC removed an entire zone, hah hah, so we got that entire zone. So let them keep on removing people, and we will contine to snag the alienated up to our Prabhupadanuga idea. Sounds good to me. As General Patton once said, you do not set out to win the big war, you set out to win the smallest battles, then automatically -- you will eventually win the big war. Hee hee. So we are winning a small battle here, there and all over, and so our program is increasing nicely. Keep kicking em out, we want them! ys pd] 

July 30, 2011 by Madhudvisa dasa 
Filed under ISKCON, Prabhupada, Preaching, Temples
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Hare Krishna.

ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA. Please accept my humble obeisances. I am suffering with a big problem. I am very thankful to u for sending the emails. My sister out of ignorance told everything about PRABHUPADA to the temple president.


They’re not allowing anyone to guide her even spiritually. They’re not allowing her to enter the temple. Nobody is talking with her in the temple. She is crying. I don’t know how to guide her? Please help me? How to solve this problem. your humble servant.

Hare Krishna Prabhu


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MD: Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!


Unfortunately this is what ISKCON does to anyone who is developing any love at all for Srila Prabhupada. They will not tolerate it. They are afraid that this love of Prabhupada and the resulting love for Krishna that comes from attachment to Srila Prabhupada will “contaminate” the temple. They only want love of the GBC and love of the GBC appointed bogus gurus. It may sound a little harsh but that is the fact unfortunately. If you love Prabhupada and they find out you are out of ISKCON immediately. This has happened not just to your sister but to thousands and thousands of sincere followers of Srila Prabhupada all over the world.


I think Prabhu this is Krishna’s arrangement and Krishna’s mercy. Such envious so-called devotees have no ability to give your sister any worthwhile guidance anyhow. At some point we have to accept the reality that although ISKCON have made a very successful business out of Prabhupada, and they will always say “Prabhupada, Prabhupada, Prabhupada…” They do not want you to surrender to Prabhupada. They want you to surrender to someone else…


There is actually an urgent need to create some real sadhu-sanga for the followers and disciples of Srila Prabhupada separately from ISKCON. ISKCON may have a big temple but they will not tolerate any love for Prabhupada so what is the use of going there? It is actually damaging to our spiritual lives to go to ISKCON temples and hear from these people.


It happened to me also. Many, many, many years ago. From reading Srila Prabhupada’s books and following his instructions I became very attached and developed a real personal relationship with Srila Prabhupada and as soon as ISKCON detected this they banned me from all ISKCON temples world-wide. I was–like your sister–very upset, feeling that these are Prabhupada’s temples and as a disciple or son of Srila Prabhupada I had a right to practice Krishna consciousness in Prabhupada’s temples.


But gradually I came to realize that being thrown out of ISKCON was Srila Prabhupada’s and Krishna’s great mercy upon me. The atmosphere in ISKCON is so offensive to Prabhupada and Prabhupada’s disciples that it is actually completely poisonous. If you stay within the association of the ISKCON devotees you will get poisoned for sure. We develop the qualities of the people we associate with. Just look how they are treating your sister, and this not an isolated incident. This is standard practice in every ISKCON temple all over the world. As soon as anyone looks like they are developing any love for Srila Prabhupada the “devotees” will immediately drive that person out of the temple. Because love for Prabhupada is not what ISKCON is about these days. They have a different purpose, a different agenda…


At some point we, as followers of Srila Prabhupada, have to come together and realize that ISKCON is no longer Prabhupada’s movement and that the International Society for Krishna Consciousness established by Srila Prabhupada no longer exists. And we have to reestablish it.


All ISKCON have is a few buildings, Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He possesses everything, so if we can organize on behalf of Srila Prabhupada to provide centers, big or small, it does not matter, where followers of Srila Prabhupada can come and together glorify, worship and hear from Srila Prabhupada and have kirtan and sadhu sanga without the fear that the temple authorities may discover their love for Prabhupada and ban them from the temple Krishna will provide us with whatever money, buildings and manpower is necessary to do this…


We have to realize that we are not alone. Every sincere soul who has somehow come into contact with Srila Prabhupada, very often by reading his books, has a very strong love for Prabhupada. And anyone who has read Prabhupada’s books can understand what are the qualities of a pure devotee of Krishna and can detect these qualities are no longer being manifest in ISKCON.


So I think we should create a world-wide organization of the followers and disciples of Srila Prabhupada. I can suggest the name “International Hare Krishna Community,” IHKC, and Krishna consciousness is a local thing. Srila Prabhupada very much stressed that managing and running a temple or a preaching center should be done by the local devotees. Prabhupada said the GBC were not supposed to be dictating what would go on in the temples. It should be local devotees managing. Some guidelines have to be there.
And as it develops the “Temple Presidents” or whatever you want to call them from nearby centers can come together for sadhu-sanga and for planning preaching on a national or international scale.


We don’t need this whole top-heavy centralized management system that ISKCON have introduced at all… Everything can be kept simple and local.


This is my feeling. And I would like to hear from devotees around the world who are seriously interested in making an international society of the followers and disciples of Srila Prabhupada a reality… If we work together for Srila Prabhupada anything is possible. Srila Prabhupada’s final request was “You love for me will be shown by how you cooperate together.” So far the devotees have not followed this request of Srila Prabhupada and cooperated together to push Srila Prabhupada’s and Lord Caitanya’s sankirtan movement all over the world. But we can cooperate together and do it for Prabhupada and if we can somehow manage this I am sure that Prabhupada will shower us with unlimited blessings.


So please post your thoughts in the comments.


I am not interested in hearing from people who are not prepared to do practical work in this regard. Krishna consciousness means devotional service. And service means we have to be prepared to surrender some of our valuable time, energy and money in the service of Srila Prabhupada.


So we need practical devotees–workers not philosophers–who can organize preaching, cook bhoga and offer it to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna and distribute, lead kirtans, preach, and who are really dedicated to Srila Prabhupada and who strictly follow the four regulative principles and chant at least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra daily and read Prabhupada’s books and listen to Prabhupada’s classes and who have some real feeling and realization for the great gift that Srila Prabhupada has given us and who want to share this gift of Krishna consciousness with others.


If we can organize this for Prabhupada the face of the world can change. These are dark times and Prabhupada is the only hope to save the word. Somebody has to organize on behalf of Prabhupada so please let me know your practical ideas…
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Your servant
Madhudvisa dasa