PADA: What is incredible to me personally is that the Krishna religion is supposed to be giving everyone relief from the material world. Suppose you are a kid in that religion, and the Krishna religion is like a living hell, way worse than the mundane schools? That will discourage those kids from being devotees of Krishna. Was that the plan of these leaders? That is one of the questions I get often.
It almost looks like the leaders were doing everything possible to discourage these kids from being Krishna's devotees, was that their intent? Of course they also discouraged nearly cent percent of my God brothers and sisters from participating as well. Total wipeout for ISKCON. And they get to live like Saudi Princes. Wonder how that happens, unless it was originally well planned, thought out, and expertly executed?
And to all the hundreds of people who said "PADA is a liar" when we reported all this child abuse stuff for decades [like GBC folks / Sridhara Maharaja folks / Narayan Maharaja folks / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad (Paul Coats) / Krishna Kirtan / Pancali / HKC Jaipur (Dayalu nitai) and etc.] now we know WHO you are trying to cover up for, and WHAT your real agenda has been all along. I am saying there is child molesting, they are saying I am a liar, and that is why Sulochana calls them "boot lickers for the butt busters." Wow!
We are on to all of you guys, and now, so are many others. You folks need to be exposed, and you will be more and more. Instead of "it is all lies" the actual fact is, "it is all true," and this is only the tip of the iceberg.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
K DASA: This was my response to Guru Prasad Swami after he wrote a letter defending Danudhara and calling is South American disciples, lower, less intelligent people.
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Dear Guru Prasad Maharaj:
I have received your faulty defense of Danudhara, the child abusing sanyasa that you are good friends with. Why did you want your defense hidden from devotees if you strongly believed in it? Anyway, your defense was riddled with inaccuracies that I will correct in this response.
“Hare Krishna. Please accept my blessings. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. I am in the middle of GBC’s meetings, but I know that you and other devotees are giving opinions regarding Dhanudhar Maharaja. I am sending this message, then you can share it, but with those devotees who have been commenting. Because it is my duty to oversee that my disciples and devotees in general do not commit offences against vaisnavas.”
api cet su-duracaro / bhajate mam ananya-bhak / sadhur eva sa mantavyah / samyag vyavasito hi sah
Even if one commits the most abominable actions, if he is engaged in devotional service, he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated.
Really? The “no criticize rule” has been abused in ISKCON for decades by those who want abuse others but do not want to be called out on it or suffer the societal repercussions. This loophole has led to unspeakable acts by abusers who want to take advantage of others using Srila Prabhupada’s own words to silence victims.
Here is an excerpt of the purport pertaining to this verse:
“They are a warning to the nondevotees that because of an accidental fall down a devotee should not be derided; he should still be considered saintly even if he has fallen down accidentally. “
“On the other hand, one should not misunderstand that a devotee in transcendental devotional service can act in all kinds of abominable ways; this verse only refers to an accident due to the strong power of material connections. Devotional service is more or less a declaration of war against the illusory energy.
As long as one is not strong enough to fight the illusory energy, there may be accidental fall downs. But when one is strong enough, he is no longer subjected to such fall downs, as previously explained. No one should take advantage of this verse and commit nonsense and think that he is still a devotee. If he does not improve in his character by devotional service, then it is to be understood that he is not a high devotee.”
Srila Prabhupada clearly disagrees with what you are saying about Danudhara. Should we listen to Srila Prabhuapda or should we listen to you?
“I know Dhanudhar Swami since 1975; every time I visited Vrindavan, I used to stay with him at gurukula’s accommodation; I saw his behaviour, how he contributed academically, I saw his brahminical nature. Almost everything they are saying about him is not true; there was another devotee, his name was Raghunath. He hit devotees sometimes. He was the person who pushed a devotee against a column and broke his nose. He was the person who hit devotees. He was the person who chastised using sticks. He was the person who forced devotees to eat vomit. Dhanudhar Swami didn’t do anything like that. “
KD: This is not true at all. During assembly sometimes Danudhara would beat the kids severely. Not only has he punched kids, but he has kicked them and thrown them as well - tossed kids like rag dolls. He has punched children so hard that their ears have bled.
Niragadeva sometimes used to beat the kids as well, but not as severely, and that was more of a random occurrence, depending on his mood. Once he beat me with his fist and beat me with a chair for kicking his lemonade (nimbu pani) over by mistake. Raghunath was the most severe because he was more muscular and aggressive.
During the morning assembly, we would line up Danudhar would randomly pick some kids to slap. He would lift us by our ears, and then on the way down, slap us with both hands on both sides of our ears. Doing this repeatedly caused hearing loss with one of my friends.
The severe beatings sometimes resulted in teeth being knocked out, bones broken, kicked down the stairs or thrown against a marble pillar. They (DD and Raghunath) would use their fists and pummeand and kicked us kids hard.
I got it bad. Ananda and Ganga got it worse. One time he got beat very severely for stealing Mahaprasadam sweets. Except that he didn’t steal the sweets. I know it for a fact. One boy was deformed by a rabid monkey attack and another boy died, but it was swept under the rug, because they were Indian and the parents were poor.
We personally witnessed a village kid die, blood gushing out of his body. We pretended it never happened and never spoke about it again. There was no trauma counselor to help kids work through that. I had nightmare for weeks.
"He committed some mistakes. His mistakes were: Once, maybe twice, he pushed a devotee. That devotee fell and hurt his arm a bit, but that was not his intention."
Danurdhara would give us beatings for things like sending mail to our parents and others. When my mother sent me care packages, the teachers would steal half. When my shoes were stolen, I walked around barefoot for months and my feet had large cracks in them. When my glasses were stolen, I walked around almost blind for months. Many kids had ringworm. Many of my friends got jaundice and malaria. I was sick for months and almost died with a fever before one of my classmates insisted that I go to the hospital. Danudhara just didn’t care.
“And those children were out of control, coming from broken families, carrying very serious psychological issues; I saw them. He told me about them, he asked me what to do with them. Some of those families didn’t care for their children. “
How dare you insult my parents when they are not here to defend themselves? Just because you wear saffron and have disciples does not give you license to commit offenses. You owe our parents a big apology. Please try to show some humility in the future. This is not a good look for you and you are confusing your disciples. Real Vaisnavas don’t attack people who have served Krsna and have sacrificed. No wonder you didn’t want the world to see this and tried to keep it private. Your words are abominable and offensive.
For the record, my father graduated from Columbia University- an elite Ivy League - not that it should matter. My mother was similarly well educated. I have an MBA from the one of the top schools in the US. My sister also has an MBA. The only problems my sister and I had were created by the GBC, who told us that we should renounce our attachment to our parents, since they are temporary, while teachers abused us.
In gurukula we were as well-behaved as any normal kids were. My parents took excellent care of us. Please stop slandering my deceased parents. They were great devotees. And its completely inaccurate. Now I see why you and Danudhara are good friends. Birds of feather flock together
“He also made the mistake of censuring the exchange of mail communication with their families, to avoid having the children expose the situation of the gurukula. His intention was to solve everything internally. That’s was his mistake. “
If you sent a letter to your parent complaining about the prison conditions you were going to get a beat down by Danudhara or Raghunath and then they made you change the letter to what they wanted it to say, like a dictator. The other teachers might have slapped us around a bit, but they were not vicious like these two.
Sometimes Niragadeve would give beatings, but he was more into having inappropriate relationships (sex) with his students than roughing people up. There were other teachers having inappropriate relationships with the students, but Danudhara didn’t care. Much of this was out in the open. Kids were lying down in Niragadev’s bed. Everybody knew, especially Danudhar. And many other ISKCON leaders knew what Danudhara was doing, and what his school was doing to the kids, and they also did not care.
"He did many mistakes, but he didn’t do these things they are commenting. I believe that those who are criticising him, really don’t know him and are committing offences."
KD: Our daily food had maggots, worms, rocks, cigarette butts (beedis), insects, and other inedible substances. One time a former classmate was picking the worms out of the farina for the halava, and then they ran out of time, so the worms went in. It wouldn’t have cost that much more to make edible food. We were not eating vegetarian food the whole time I was in Vrndavan. If you vomited, the teachers made you lick it up from the ground.
The way the food was distributed was backwards. Teachers first, then Monitors (Older Boys), then Second Initiates, then first initiates, then noninitiates. Sometime the food would run out before it made to the youngest students. But the food was making everybody sick so they were probably better off. I have a picture of me where you could see my ribs, like in commercials raising awareness of famine in Africa. Some boys took initiation just to get food.
The bathrooms were dirty hellholes that had stool strewed throughout. Everyone was getting sick and many were not making it to the bathroom so they always were full of stool. But the teachers’ bathroom was great. You didn’t mention anything about these factors in your letter defending the horrific acts your friend Danurdhar swami, and his associates committed.
"Danudhar Swami brought to ISKCON, two hundred or two hundred fifty persons in USA, India and Italy. Highly qualified people. Danurdhar's followers are more qualified than followers of any other preacher. They are bank managers and powerful executives. The quality of his preaching is incredible."
Do you know how condescending you sound? No wonder you are against criticism and instead choose to commit offenses. You want to be the only one allowed to be doing the criticizing and want to be able to attack us and our parents with impunity. For the record, my friends have made far more devotees that than, but they have left the movement, because of the way you are behaving.
You say that these disciples are better than everyone else because they are bank managers and powerful executives and everybody else is lower. Do you know how materialistic you sound? We are making bank executives into our disciples, no one disagrees, you are after the money and not purity.
Also, for the record, my father owned a chain of pharmacies in 2 states and donated a lot of money to ISKCON and the Vrndavana gurukula back in the day. Additionally, he used to give the Miami devotees free medicine when they were sick. My grandmother was a pujari, but she also gave money to the temple and let Bir Krsna Goswami borrow one of her brand new luxury car for a month.
But my family never thought that they were better than anybody else because of their stature in society, like you do. I have worked with CEOs and CFOs of global corporations (Enterprise Product, Kinder Morgan, NTR-Ireland, CRH- Ireland, Activision, VCA, eHarmony, Oracle to name a few) and know billionaires and famous journalists. That does not make me a better devotee and I am surprised that this is the way you measure a devotee’s value. Who are the names of Danudharas powerful executives? I might know a few of them.
But you response is illuminating because it shows two things. First, the GBC ... or at least some of them ... maybe many of them ... still considers Danudhara and his disciples part of ISKCON - when they have falsely claimed for decades that he wasn’t. Have the GBC been lying to its members for decades or are you lying now?
Second, that you equate money to being a quality devotee. What you are asserting is that we should not expel Danudhara because he makes money for ISKCON, a organization which the GBC claims he is not part of. Do you realize how low - class and calculating this sounds? Has Danudhara personally given you laxmi and that is why you are defending him?
So, I am just warning, please be careful, better you put more emphasis and attention chanting the Maha Mantra, spending less time on Facebook giving opinions regarding situations that you don’t know anything about. Many times the information from the internet is exaggerated or false. Please be careful.
Here you are telling your disciples not to believe the evidence before their eyes. Actually, you are warning them. What happens if they do criticize Dandhuara? Are you telling them that cannot go Back to Godhead if they criticize child abusers?
That’s not a very inspiring message. What you are doing is gaslighing us, ISKCON and your disciples to think child abuse is ok, as long as you are good friends with the child abuser and he brings in money for you. Is this how you look at your disciples? As pots of money? If so, I feel very bad for them.
Since money is all you seem to care about, how much would it take for you to renounce Danudhara. Maybe we can a start a GoFundMe page that will donate the money to Food for Life or some other worthy program that you can control.
I sincerely hope you change your position, and that your close friendship with my abuser does not continue to cloud your judgement. Just the fact the you wanted to keep this private shows me that you know what you are doing is wrong and didn’t want anybody else to find out about your volunteering to be on Danudhara’s defense team.
Seeking the Truth,
KD
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GP: People like you are needed to straighten this iskcon guru mess out and give some sanity to the society. Thanks.
DD: We’ll written letter! But I do recall you telling me personally that you weren’t abused, just slapped once. Did I hear wrong?
KD: Yes you heard that wrong. Did a teacher have sex with me. No. Did a teacher try to have sex with me, yes. Sri Galim. Did the teachers beat the living shit out of me badly, yes. Gopinath in New Vrndavana. And Danudhara, Ragunath, and NIragadeva.
Did I see teachings sleeping with kids, yes. Did Bhavanada perv on the gurukula boys, yes. He would do inspections to see if we were "clean" and then perv on us, yes. Did Bhavanada slap me, yes. But that was mild compared to the other stuff. Did the teachers leave me to die in India, yes they did. Yes you heard wrong. This is all in the lawsuit and there were multiple witnesses.
DD: Ok! Maybe at the time you didn’t want to tell me all that! Understandable!
MB: Maybe you weren't prepared to hear it.
PJ: WOW!!! K you should get his email address and send it to him. All his disciples should read it too. Why do they always advocate for the demons and abusive criminals and you never see an email asking for mercy or help for the thousands of victims? This was so well written. I am sure there are hundreds of similar accounts.
KD: I did sent it to him. I don't think he has recovered from this letter. I can take a different tone if I have to. Now I take more of a "uppity" tone.
N Dasi: He’s not the only one who viewed gurukula kids as coming from broken homes. Uhh the homes were broken by iskcon in most cases. They came from broken homes, after the GBC split up the families and created friction between the parents to dissolve the family structure.
FR: Good that you are writing this. EVERBODY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT ALL THESE GUYS! Their time of silence and hiding is over.
BS: So well said! Thank you - you really spoke for me. Hats off to you Big Brother!
PADA: Yep. Even if a person performs an abominable act he should be forgiven. Unless of course, he is exposing the industrial level molesting and abuse of children empire, then he should be banned, beaten, sued, chased with bats, and told "he needs a new body." This is called hypocrisy.
And perhaps that is why Jesus said, "Oh ye hypocrites, sons of vipers." We dissenters are never forgiven -- and one of their disciples just called me a cockroach and he said he was placing a curse on me to harm me.
Great way to show BG 9:30 forgiveness there partner! OK the forgiveness is very selective, only a certain few elite leaders get that mercy, the peons, OK not so much. And the victims? I have heard big leaders call them "useless fringies." And I was the bad guy for advocating for the useless fringies. This is de-personalizing the victims, or even demonizing the victims, used always by tyrant dictators and megalomanic psychopaths. ys pd
DG: Shocking ... I wasn't aware of all this! I feel physically sick!!
PJ: I’m a friend of K’s and so have heard of this before. So it’s only a ‘bit’ shocking to remember it again. What’s really shocking for me is the amount of leaders in Iskcon who were either badly fooled or who despite knowing the truth took no action. Or worse, covered up for the abusers.
VD: The horrors just keep unfolding in daily graphic details like this. The silence of "official" Iskcon is deafening.
MD: Niragadeva claims he never physically abused any gurukula boys.
KD: He beat me with a chair and punched and kicked me for spilling his limbu pani. So he is lying. And he beat many others. They are just trying to cover their tracks now.
FR: That is too many people involved in all types of abuses. I never liked this guy either!
VK: That was shocking to hear. “Who will care? Only rascals there” -SP
TD: Any of those who knew about this and covered it and still are covering it up should have no position in leading devotees for their intelligence is lost if there ever was any ... Zero respect to those so called leaders! Those who covered that up are even worse than those who did it, they enabled it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/BxoAVq-ehbM?feature=share
Guru Prasad Swami Welcomed by Bhakti Vikāsa Swami
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Guru Prasad Swami Welcomed by Bhakti Vikāsa Swami
GG: As soon as Bhakti Vikas swami sees defenders of child molesters and child beaters, he welcomes them and thinks they are bona fide sadhus. Meanwhile he wants to have the Bangalore devotees put into jail because they are not running a program of stuffing children in the rear end. They are all part of this child abuse web and nest.
VK: OMG that’s creepy! Bhakti Vikas swami always has that creepy looking smile, he knows all about what is happening but he makes pretend he is innocent, and suckers fall for it.
DK: What is creepy in traditional Vedic reception of a Sannyasi to you?
BB: Ask Uttamasloka Dasa about Guru Prasads apologetics. Vedic reception is where it is deserved. But let me guess, I bet if Kirtanananda was to come there, you would PERSONALLY wash his feet and throw flower petals as well, wouldn't you? Just like the GBC buries him in a samadhi.
GG: HH Guru Prasad Swami Arrival at ISKCON Salem (28.11.2022) and is welcomed by Bhakti Vikas swami.
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HH Guru Prasad Swami Arrival at ISKCON Salem (28.11.2022)
Bhakti Vikas swami promotes the pedophile and child beater apologists.
BP: Danudhara pls pls pls better get out otherwise u will be n great great trouble remember krsna s present n everyone heart u rascal.
KD #2: Anyone who compromise principles for comfort and relationship have one foot inside hell.
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