PADA: OK it looks like the main defenders of the ISKCON GBC's homosexual and pedophile guru lineage, like Bhasu Ghosh, Bhakti Vikas swami et al., are freaking out. They are very worried. Their current "guru lineage from heaven" ALREADY includes: illicit sex with men, women and children; drunks; drug addicts; porno swamis; sex with boys in the motorhome; sex with taxi drivers in the dham; orchestrating murders of dissenters, and potentially -- poisoning the founder of ISKCON and etc.
And the main supporters of their pedophile lover's guru line are also their heros like Gopal Krishna swami, the ISKCON India ICC -- apart from Bhakti Vikas swami, Basu Ghosh et al. Yep, they have dedicated their lives to sticking every deviation known to man into "Krishna chain of gurus."
Now they are complaining -- forsooth -- some women might be added to their guru parampara. You mean, someone who is not engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, drinking Vodka, being arrested for shooting guns at occupied buildings, having sex with half dozen followers etc., might be added to their guru parampara, and that is a horrible prospect. Hee hee!
Of course when a woman wants a "guru certificate" from an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club, that is not a good sign either.
"My guru's seat is not big enough." He is also not in good health at present, evidently heart / breathing problems.
Now, the GBC / BVKS illicit sex with men, women and children guru lineage folks are threatening to "split away" from the people who want women to be gurus. And this will cause a split in ISKCON. Ummm, Ok but ISKCON is already split into maybe dozens of splinter groups already.
There are many different competing internal GBC guru camps, and many outside authority camps -- including BR Sridhara Maharaja, BV Narayan Maharaja, various Babajis etc., and many other off shoots and divisions. Never mind many of the original 1970s devotees are simply gone and they are not participating in any part of ISKCON, and a number of them have been watching football and drinking beer.
And most of the second generation ex-children are also not participating in any capacity. And many of the "original 1970s disciples" are very elderly, some are very ill, and of course -- many of them are very dead. In other words, ISKCON is already fractured and dismantled into many divisions already. And most of the followers are already scattered into many different schism camps as it satnds now.
Locally for example, the followers of Jayapataka are unable to work with the worshipers of Radhanath, and so they have not been able to open a center in Sacramento as a result. Then there was some sort of money collecting scam gone awry that caused more schism. We have seen some other very nasty exchanges between some of the "GBC guru" folks, and there is a lot of internal friction already.
In addition, we can also credit the ISKCON leaders with making many of these spin off groups themselves -- with the leaders flocking over to work with BR Sridhara, BV Narayan and others -- and leading thousands of folks out of ISKCON and siphoning them off into schism camps. Even Jayatirtha was telling his folks to "vote with their feet" and leave the main ISKCON society -- and join his BR Sridhara Maharaja supported sect of the "Peace Krishnas" (designer drugs) off shoot. And then most of the Jayatirtha-ites left, which bankrupted the UK ISKCON yatra.
Now we are looking at more defections and break down. Of course Bhakti Vikas swami complains "who will listen to me" -- when the people who have listened to him so far -- established a violent pedophile camp in Mayapur that has been mass molesting and beating up children, even giving children anal reconstructive surgery -- following the BVKS program and him of his "sannyasa guru" Jayapataka. Then again, we had to have their program sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse.
And recently we got another report of the GBC's program's violence, this time of a devotee being beaten half to death with iron pipes for objecting to the GBC / BVKS pedophile messiah's club. So BVKS program takes their idea of making / forcing / enforcing people to worship their pedophile gurus very seriously, a dissenter can be banned, beaten with iron pipes till nearly dead, sued and even killed if one tries to object to BVKS most cherished program, his anal sex pooja process.
Anyone who does not worship BVKS and his anus sex pooja process, does so at their peril -- there can be severe and even deadly consequences in the BVKS world. Hard to imagine how badly these BVKS people will be beaten up when Yamaraja gets a hold of them!
OK so now the way to fix all this is, to get some of the "senior Vaishnavi ladies" to become card carrying members of the pedophile messiah's association. For starters, maybe 90 percent of the senior devotees are no longer participating in ISKCON. Maybe 50 percent of the senior devotees already left their bodies.
Maybe 20 percent of the remaining senior devotees are very ill. Maybe 30 percent of the senior devotees have become followers of pedophile messiah's club boot lickers like BR Sridhara and BV Narayan programs. That leaves how many senior Vaishnavis guru candidates left? Hardly any.
I don't see how this process ever gets off the ground, and even if it does, how it has significant impact on anything. OK basically it is dead on arrival, both figuratively and literally.
So what if some senior Vaishnavi takes a few disciples anyway? Not going to change or fix a thing. OK so what does all this mean? It means that we are seeing more disintegration of ISKCON. It will simply keep dissolving more and more, until there is little to nothing left, almost at that point in many locations already. That means the coast is clear for the Prabhupadanuga coalition, which is gradually coming together more and more, and will continue to expand as they go down. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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Opening eyes to see how ISKCON currently works isn’t the same as causing devotees to lose faith.
Some devotees lose faith in the GBC and leadership, but not in the process of Bhakti. Some devotees lose faith in ISKCON, but not in Srila Prabhupada.
Devotees who have lost faith in the above two for example, have had their eyes opened to avoid that which sits uncomfortably with them. This scale of eye-opening worries ISKCON leaders. They’ll claim that this loss of faith is bad for the mission. It’s easier for leaders to control devotees who keep their eyes shut.
When more eyes are opened, there’s an increase in enlightened and free devotees. The challenge for leadership now is, are they able to inspire enlightened and free devotees? Probably not. Leaders will have to be enlightened and free themselves.
Highly centralised leadership practices depend on devotees with closed eyes. In the name of humility, it’s a travesty to describe such slavery as transcendental servitude. Decentralised leadership practices will give power to local communities to nominate their own leaders and so forth.
If newcomers are kindly given eye-opening advice, warnings and know-how on how to stay safe in closed-eyes environments, they’ll have the freedom to pursue Bhakti with less institutional hassle. The more open eyes there are, the more the calibre of leadership will have to rise to such heightened awareness. Instead of waiting for leaders to enact change, open eyes will eventually cause the change over the longer term. You can be the change by opening eyes. We’ll have to be patient.
Ys Kesava Krsna Dasa.
Thanks Bhakta M. Yes, I am sorry that your faith in BVKS has been disturbed by PADA. We keep hearing that. Unfortunately, I would have to say BVKS has mislead you and others.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, Bhakti Vikas swami was one of the people who harassed us when we said we have to remove Jayatirtha as the acharya. BVKS wanted my children to worship his illicit sex and drugs acharyas. As soon as BVKS finds a nice illicit sex deviant who is offering LSD to the shalagram, and who is helping having dissenters assassinated (like happened in Nepal) he falls off his seat and thinks he has met Jesus reincarnated.
And unfortunately, many other kids were forced to work under BVKS's molester schools, but I sent my kids to public school and saved them. Many of the kids in the BVKS "guru-schools" were beaten and molested. Some of his program's victims committed suicide.
Then we had to sue the BVKS program for $400,000,000 later on for his massive child abuse, beating and molesting process. BVKS supported the molester messiah's regime all along and he still does.
He also supported the $20M Bangalore lawsuit, because he hates to see anyone who worships Prabhupada. He wanted to spend money on lawyers when children reported not getting proper food. And so they spent millions on their $400,000,000 lawsuit, so BVKS could hire beef steaks lawyers to defend his pedophile messsiahs program.
While his lawyers get nice beef steaks, the children in his schools reported getting rotten moldy oatmeal. In other words the main priority for people like BVKS is to fund his beef steaks lawyers, so he can keep his pedophile pals being worshiped as good as God.
Did I forget to mention an FBI agent confirms that the BVKS program was trying to have me assassinated? Anyway, sorry to disappoint you but these are the facts, and these facts will be part of an upcoming mass media presentation. ys pd