ISKCON Panics Over Mass Child Molesting (Pancaratna das)

Pancaratna dasa: Dear NIDC Members

Please find attached the PPT regarding formation of individual Temples CPT. It is extremely urgent and important. Please put this on the top of your list of things to do. The last date is 31st of March, if my memory serves me correctly.

Also we are looking to add members to the INCPO Secretariat. We need devotees with a background in Child Care and Psychology, a permanent secretary, mostly online work, database and website developer to maintain Investigators and Seminar presenters within NIDC. (to be trained)

Your servant

Pancaratna Dasa


INCPO. CPT Guidelines

CPT (Child Protection Team) Formation:

Each temple must appoint a CPT Consisting of minimum 3 members. One from the congregation, one full-time temple devotee and the third from either. At least one, if not two, should be a woman.

Each new CPT will then be registered by the INCPO. INCPO. CPT Guidelines:

Jaipur CPT Member Details. (Example)

Radha Sundari DD. (Rashmi Pritchard.)

Education: BA. Experience. College psychology, sociology and English literature.
Plus, some study of child psychology. Stable married life. 3 children.

Deeptimay Radhika DD. (Deepti Goyal.) Education: BHMS Pune Malaysia. Alternative Medicine. Consultant Homeopathy Physician. Practicing since last 15 years. Stable married life. no children.

Vishnu Yajna Das. (Vineet Gupta.) Education. MSC microbiology. Stable married life 1 daughter. 

INCPO. CPT Guidelines 

Jurisdiction of the CPT:

The Parent Temple & All Satellite Centers:

Outposts Schools Gurukulas Bace

Bhakti Vriksha Extended projects

There must be a CPT Rep in each Satellite center:

INCPO. CPT Guidelines

Role of the CPT:

Education and Prevention

Taking all measures to prevent child abuse.

Educate, congregation, employees and temple full time devotees, about child protection and CONSEQUENSES:

Report all cases to the INCPO for guidance:

Assist in investigations as decided by the INCPO:

INCPO. CPT Guidelines: Qualifications:

Educational: Minimum 12th pass. Additional knowledge or experience of work with children. Knowledge of psychology of children and basic understanidng about statutory laws (have taken the POCSO seminar)

Exceptions will be accepted, if the proposed member has experience in raising children. Out of three members at least one member should have knowledge of writing reports and handling computers or laptops etc.

Brahmacaris may not be on the CPT though someone may be consulted if there is a case involving other Brahmacaris.

INCPO. CPT Guidelines:

Seminar Attendance:

The CPT members should be willing to attend any outstation seminars, workshops related to protection of children conducted by the INCPO, as is practical. All CPT members must attend any online classes that may be arranged.

Reporting:

The CPT must report quarterly to INCPO as per the guidelines for submitting reports, for smaller centers a yearly report will be accepted.

INCPO. CPT Guidelines

INCPO Guidelines:

The CPT should be well aware of the ISKCON INCPO guidelines such as how to deal with cases and procedure. A separate training program will be given to the CPT’s

Child No Go Zones:

The CPT must be well aware of isolated areas (such as brahmacari ashrams, buildings, restrooms, terraces, individual devotee rooms, offices, goshalas, any open and isolated spaces behind the temple or buildings, etc.) Certain areas should be demarcated as “NO CHILDREN WITHOUT PARENTS”

INCPO. CPT Guidelines

CPT Announcement:

Congregation should be informed about the formation of the CPT. The names and contact numbers must be placed in a prominent area within the temple premises along with the name and number of the INCPO Secretary. Indian Laws:

The CPT should be aware of the Juvenile Justice (Care & Protection of Children) Act, 2015 and Protection of Children from Sexual Offences Act, 2012 (POCSO) to help them be aware of the important clause of mandatory reporting in child abuse cases. A hard copy of these Acts should be available in the office for reference and posted on the INCPO website.

INCPO. CPT Guidelines

Database:

A database of all the resident devotees, employees, teachers, caretakers, Bhakti Vriksha leaders, etc, should be maintained by the CPT. 

Social Media:

The CPT members should limit the use of social media like Facebook, Twitter, etc in order to maintain confidentiality.

Local Police Liaison:

Good relations with the local police should be developed. Also contacts with the personnel from the Social Service Department Department of Women & Child Development 

INCPO. CPT Guidelines

Registration of CPT.

https://forms.gle/3HiujLQyfPbQoVpm8

Paste the full link in your browser. Then fill up the form and send. INCPO. CPT Guidelines.

Temple Leaders are Legally Responsible and Legally Accountable.

[PADA: It is suddenly "urgent and important" that child molesting is contained. However, we still want the children to worship our pedophile acharyas like Lokanath -- as their messiahs. And we want children to worship pedophiles and porno swamis in samadhis, eternally really. 

And we want children to understand that God's guru successors are often fallen sexual predators "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children." And we want the children to take initiation from the founder fathers of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru society -- like Jayapataka. 

And by the principle of "you become what you worship" we will create more pedophiles by having children worship pedophiles (or their enablers) as God's successors. We are going to have children worship pedophiles, to cure the problem of pedophiles? My lawyer friend says forcing children to worship pedophiles is most likely illegally "corrupting the morals of minors" and fraud, and he is amazed no one has been sued already. 

Then we have Gainesville / Alachua's Kalakantha / Carl Woodham saying he wants women to be voted into his illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club. He wants women to become followers of his anal sex epidemic messiah's club -- which is actually an insult to all women everywhere. Why do we want women to be implicated in his homosexual and pedophile "chain of gurus from God"? Rather we should be saving women AND THEIR CHILDREN from getting entangled in this odious mess.

One of the ex-child victims told me "there has been child molesting going on in every nook and cranny of ISKCON." And how that happens is simple, the ISKCON society has been worshiping illicit sex with men, women and children as its messiahs, thus spreading the "molester beej" -- or seed -- of sexual predator consciousness, everywhere. 

Pancaratna does not address this issue. Nor does he address the issue that us "child abuse" whistleblowers are often systematically banned, if not beaten, sued and assassinated. OK we are going to have the children worship Rasputin and Satan, or their enabler agents, and then we wonder how the children are being exploited. 

Nor does Pancaratna address the fact that the cheer leaders and enablers of this molester worshiping society would have to be removed in order to really clean up the issue. And no wonder, since he is one of the enablers for 46 years.

Now ISKCON wants to shift the legal liability away from the society to the rank and file temple leaders. And we are going to keep the worst case founder fathers of the molester guru process in office, like Jayapataka. And keep the enablers of this process in office, like Pancaratna, and that will clean this up. Simultaneously, we are going to make the rank and file legally responsible for our pedophile pooja society, that worships known pedophiles like Lokanath, and other deviants if not pedophiles now worshiped in samadhis.

And in sum -- we are now going to make the rank and file temple presidents legally liable for our promoting pedophiles as our messiahs, and our having a policy of banning, beating, suing and killing the whistleblowers. Are we making any sense of this nonsense yet?

A devotee said this is like the story of Humpty Dumpty. They made a pedophile guru program, where children have been getting molested left, right and center. Now they are going to keep the people who orchestrated that society in office, and shift the legal blame to the rank and file for their molester process. OK guess what, no one will want to become a second echelon leader if they are legally liable for your bogus system. And now that your Humpty Dumpty molester worship society has crashed to the ground, making another layer of committees is not going to fix the problem either.     

You have to make everyone worship the pure devotee, and not pedophiles, if you want purity. Sorry, there is no other option to fix this. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com]

Oh Lordy! Not another "justice committee"

Loyal to the creators of

the injustice!

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KD: FEMALE DIKSA DIVERSION

Dear Friends.

Female diksa-guru discussion is a diversion to keep the simple minded flock's mind busy. The core undercut of tattva is giving undue importance of pancaratra-diksa over bhagavata-dksa, and on top of that making diksa a bureaucratic strategy for encroaching the post of a guru making it a livable income and admirer source.

It is not that Srila Prabhupada and sastra contradict each other. They are in perfect harmony. Sastra ought to be understood through the instruction of a great devotee. The problem is that most people lack the qualification to see that. Both Srila Prabhupada and sastra say:

tarko ’pratiṣṭhaḥ śrutayo vibhinnā
nāsāv ṛṣir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam
dharmasya tattvaṁ nihitaṁ guhāyāṁ
mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ

"Dry arguments are inconclusive. A great personality whose opinion does not differ from others is not considered a great sage. Simply by studying the Vedas, which are variegated, one cannot come to the right path by which religious principles are understood. The solid truth of religious principles is hidden in the heart of an unadulterated, self-realized person. Consequently, as the śāstras confirm, one should accept whatever progressive path the mahājanas advocate."

Gainesville's Child Molester Messiah's Project (Update)

Chief Pharisee of the Sodomites Religion 

krishna1008: Kalakantha Das Insults Women's Intelligence (VIDEO)

Gainesville (FL) ISKCON, USA | Directory (krishna.com)

[PADA: Kalakantha's worship of bogus if not debauchee / pedophile messiah's club now wants women to sign up and join their program, as co-messiahs. Wait? The people who promote the worship of "illicit sex with men, women and children" "male" messiahs shall now "2/3 show of hands" vote women into their program. Worse, Kalakantha's program says worship of Jesus is "the bogus ritviks program," because the worshipers of Jesus are not worshiping Kalakantha's homosexual pedophiles in samadhis project. Wow! Worship of homosexual pedophiles in samadhi is superior to worship of Jesus? Who knew! 

As soon as Kalakantha sees someone is not having their children bowing down to his homosexual and pedophile messiahs in samadhis project, he is angry and upset. How can Kalakantha get the children of the world to worship his homosexual pedophiles in samadhi project, or his pedophile acharyas in Mayapur project, if they are worshiping Jesus instead, or Prabhupada?     

Next problem! Why would any woman even want Kalakantha's -- illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club's -- guru certification? That would mean that woman would have to agree with Kalakantha's program -- that God's guru succession is often populated with deviants, lusty dogs and even pedophiles. Even now as we speak Kalakantha's program is advertising a known pedophile guru to speak in their headquarters in Mayapur, as the messiah of the children for his program. 

Yep, as soon as the Kalakantha program finds a lusty dog child crotch grabber, or people having oral sex with boys in the motorhome etc., they fall of their chairs and think they have met the reincarnations of Jesus. And those of us who do not want to promote his molester messiahs project are banned, beaten, sued, and maybe assassinated. And all of this and more will be exposed in an upcoming mass media presentation. 

Worse, a woman guru would have to agree that Kalakantha's guru succession from God is being managed, owned and operated by -- the same people who vote in illicit sex deviants / pedophiles / drunks etc. as gurus in the first place. How can the promoters of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children "vote in" and administer "God's successors" either male or female? 

And why do none of them, male or female, not know that God's line of succession is not EVER populated with illicit sex deviants, pedophiles, drunks, porno swamis etc.? And why would they say worship of Jesus is the bogus ritviks idea, because children are not going to be worshiping their line of homosexuals, pedophiles in samadhis, or pedophiles as the acharyas in Mayapur, their head quarters etc.? 

Which other religion says that God's successors are often drunks, debauchees and pedophiles? And what sane woman wants to be certified as co-guru by that process? Just asking! Hee hee! 

ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com

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*Monday 30th January*

Many Moons Podcast Episode 15

*All my Spiritual Sons & Daughters * Why Srila Prabhupada Wanted Vaishnavi Diksa Gurus with *KALAKANTHA DAS* (ACBSP)

*About*: Srila Prabhupada wrote in a Letter to Hansadutta on the 3rd January 1969: “I want that all of my spiritual sons and daughters will inherit this title of Bhaktivedanta, so that the family transcendental diploma will continue through the generations. Those possessing the title of Bhaktivedanta will be allowed to initiate disciples.”

Fifty-three years later, the issue of Vaisnavi Diksa gurus remains a contested topic, which threatens to divide the devotee community. Join us to discuss the importance of addressing this issue with cultural sensitivity, social awareness, and loyalty to Srila Prabhupada’s mood & mission.

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KD: What should disciples do if their gurus are known to have made bad management decisions? Is the GBC capable of making bad decisions? Are GBC decisions absolute? Are decisions made by gurus in management absolute?

These are questions that discerning disciples have to weigh up. If your guru voted against female diksha-gurus for example, and you personally disagree with this decision, where do you stand? If your guru was involved in inaction which allowed child-abusers to continue abusing for decades, do you shrug your shoulders and accept it because such inaction is absolute?

If you accept that everything your guru says or does is absolute, you’ll have a problem in trying to explain how inaction is divine goodness which benefits one and all. Inaction involves aparadha. Allowing abuse to fester means allowing abusers to commit aparadha to victims, their families and loved ones. Wherever there are victims, aparadha has been committed. Is inaction which allows aparadha absolute divine truth full of benevolence?

GBC decisions have been amended or reformed in ISKCON’s short history. Clearly, GBC decisions are relative, subject to change in the future. Although all ISKCON members are subservient to these laws, they are relative-binding, not absolute-binding. As such, gurus who are GBC members are making relative management decisions.

Disciples have to weigh up between relative and absolute considerations as their gurus vote for decisions which affect all ISKCON members, positively or negatively. If disciples insist that their gurus in GBC management are maha-bhagavatas who make absolute decisions, how do they explain inaction which allows abuse and aparadha to go on?

A disciple can either be a blind fanatic to go along with the absolute reasoning or stop, think and explore the relative options. Accepting relative options means accepting that mistakes can be made. Is it too much to accept that gurus can err in decision-making? For this reason alone, perhaps gurus shouldn’t be in management positions.

If disciples are faced with these pendulum swinging issues, they should speak to their gurus about them. If disciples hold an opinion different from the guru, it shouldn’t interfere with relationships. Diversity is allowed.

For instance, if disciples hold the view that female diksha-gurus should be allowed to initiate, but their guru disagrees, does that mean that disciples must agree with their gurus on these points? Are disciples entitled to opinions that differ from those of their gurus? There is leeway to discuss these quandaries which are relative. Mature gurus and disciples can work things out mutually. This won’t happen if absolutism rules.

Even now, there are devotees who describe known aparadhi-abusers as maha-bhagavatas. What on earth is it that is in our ISKCON education system which allows such fanaticism to arise?

Without distinguishing between relative and absolute possibilities in regards to guru and disciple relationships, we’ll end up with no ability to reason with fanatical disciples of any guru. To cool the temperature, it might be helpful if gurus admit that they aren’t infallible absolutists in everything they say and do, as has been proven by the relatively poor GBC decisions made over the years.

Ys K Dasa.

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*** JY: Under the GBC's guru system, "technically" someone who could be an "idiot" can become a guru, and the gurus can make mistakes because they have "flaws":

Anuttama das: "technically I could become a diksa guru [...] people might come up and say ‘he's an idiot, don't let him do it', but technically there's no barrier [...] that doesn't mean because I start being a guru tomorrow I'm perfect in the sense I'm never going to do anything wrong. You know, I'm a human being, I've got flaws [...]"

However, Srila Prabhupada teaches that a bona fide diksa guru must be liberated and does not commit mistakes:

"Because the bound cannot help the bound, the rescuer must be liberated. Therefore, only Lord Krsna, or His bona fide representative the spiritual master, can re-lease the conditioned soul."
(Bg., 7.14, purport)

"Srimad-Bhagavatam, which is without trace of mistake, illusion, cheating and imperfection, which are the four flaws of all conditioned souls. The liberated souls are above these flaws [...]"

Brief History of Madhvacarya: History Sites

[PADA: We are following the Brahma / Madhva / Gaudiya system. And we owe a lot of credit to these founders of the Vaishnava siddhanta. I cannot say these accounts below are fully accurate, but I like to read these historical versions from time to time as a matter of personal interest. Of course -- nowadays all sorts of upstarts are claiming to be acharyas --- and that is why we need to realize how advanced and powerful actual acharyas are.  

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com]

Madhva

Hindu philosopher

Alternate titles: Anandatirtha, Purnaprajna

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Last Updated: Article History

Born: 1199? or 1238 Udipi India

Died: c.1278 or 1317 Udipi India

Subjects Of Study: Dvaita / heaven / hell

Madhva, also called Anandatirtha or Purnaprajna, (born c. 1199 or 1238 CE, near Udipi, Karnataka, India—died c. 1278 or 1317, Udipi), Hindu philosopher, exponent of Dvaita (“Dualism”; belief in a basic difference in kind between God and individual souls). His followers are called Madhvas.

Madhva was born into a Brahman family. As a youth, he was discovered by his parents, after a four-day search, discoursing learnedly with the priests of Vishnu. Later, on a pilgrimage to the sacred city of Varanasi, he is reputed to have walked on water. 

Britannica Quiz Philosophy 101

Madhva set out to refute the nondualistic Advaita philosophy of Shankara (died c. 750 CE), who believed the individual self (jiva) to be fundamentally identical with the universal self (atman), which in turn was identical with the Absolute (brahman), the only reality. Thus, Madhva rejected the theory of maya (“illusion” or “play”), which taught that the material world is not only illusory but also deceptive. 

Madhva maintained that the simple fact that things are transient and ever-changing does not mean that they are not real. He also insisted that knowledge is relative, not absolute. In Madhva’s time, most Hindus believed in heaven and hell as well as in a process of transmigration (samsara) from which it was possible to attain release (moksha). 

Madhva outlawed devadasis—members of an order of women devoted to the temple patron god and who performed sexual favours for the king and his close circle — in all places of worship under his followers’ control. He offered figures made of dough as a substitute for blood sacrifices. His adherents customarily branded themselves on the shoulder with a multiarmed figure of Vishnu. Madhva wrote 37 works in Sanskrit, mostly commentaries on Hindu sacred writings and treatises on his own theological system and philosophy.

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Madhyageha Bhatta was happy at the arrival of his son on Vijayadasami day in the year 1238 A.D. He named him Vasudeva. Vasudeva was very precocious and initially the father taught the boy the lessons of philosophy. As a boy not even attaining his teens, Vasudeva felt an inner urge he could not resist, to take up Sanyasa under Guru Achutaprekshacharya.

Achutaprekshacharya taught from the then current Advaita school of thought but the philosophy of that school did not appeal to Vasudeva. Guru was displeased with his new disciple but he was however very much impressed with the earnest and scholarly disciple whom he had named Purnaprajna. Purnaprajna thereupon began to preach his own philosophy according to which -- the world is real, the individual souls are different. 

Many scholars of other schools came to him for debate and went back defeated by his keen and irrefutable logic. Purnaprajna, in order to propagate his faith undertook a pilgrimage to various shrines in South India and the pilgrimage was also an opportunity to meet opponents of other schools in the different places. Immediately after he returned from the pilgrimage Purnaprajna wrote the commentary on Bhagavad Gita which is the first work of the Acharya.

Seven years after he took Sanyasa, Purnaprajna started a pilgrimage to the North where he touched Varanasi, Allahabad, Dwaraka, Delhi and other places and reached Badrikshetra. He composed the Brahmasutra Bhashya at Badri and went further to the depths of Himalayas, where Bhagavan Vyasa resides. 

On returning back Purnaprajna came to the banks of Godavari and had debates with two eminent scholars namely Sobhana Bhatta and Shama Shastry belonging to Advaita School. Both were defeated in the debate and with the conviction of the truth of the school of philosophy expounded by Purnaprajna, both of them became his disciples taking up Sanyasa. 

Shobana Bhatta went on to become the famous Padmanabha Thirtha who succeeded to the pontifical seat of Madhva Samstana. Shama Shastry became Narahari Thirtha and at the behest of the Acharya stayed behind to obtain the idols of Moola Rama and Sita from the treasury of the local prince. Padmanabha Thirtha followed his master and was greatly devoted to him.

After his return to Udupi Purnaprajna began to write various works establishing the new system of philosophy which has come to be called Dvaita Siddhanta. The cardinal point which distinguishes his system from others is the essential difference between Brahman who is Independent and all else which are Dependent. 

This system has therefore come to be called Dvaita Siddhanta (Philosophy of Basic difference), Purnaprajna installed Kadagolu Krishna at Udupi and established eight mutts, the Sanyasis of which has to worship Krishna by rotation. The Paryaya (System of Rotation) has continued until the present day at Udupi. Sriman Madhva wrote commentaries on the ten principal Upanishads, the special treatises called Prakaranas ten in number, the Gita Tatparya and other works during this period.

Sriman Madhva undertook the second tour to the north again. He met Jalaluddin Khilji at Delhi and seems to have conversed with him in Persian Language. After returning from the North he spent the rest of his life in Udupi occasionally visiting a place called Vishnu Mangala near Udupi. During one of his visits to Vishnu Mangala he had to meet a reputed champion of the Advaita School by name Trivikramapanditacharya. The debate between them extended to fifteen days and covered all the different systems of philosophy like the Bauddha, Sankhya, Nyaya and Advaita.

In the end Trivikramapanditacharya has to admit defeat. He was very much impressed with the Acharya and became his disciple having renounced Advaita and accepting the Dvaita Siddhanta. The conversion of Pandita Trivikrama was a great moral victory for the Acharya and many were the new adherents to his system. Trivikramapanditacharya became so devoted to Acharya that he wrote the commentary known as Tatvapradipa on the Brahmasutra Bhashya of Sriman Madhva. At his request Sriman Madhva wrote a metrical commentary on the Brahmasutras which is famous as Anuvyakhyana.

Sriman Madhva had many disciples belonging to the Sanyasa ashrama and many disciples who were house holders. He vanished from the sight of mortals in his 80th year while he was teaching the Aitareya Upanishad Bhashya to his disciples. A shower of flowers is said to have rained on him and he vanished from the sight in the shower of flowers.

The shower of flowers happened on this day, Magha Maasa Shukla Paksha Navami 706 years ago.

Sri Hari Stotram Prayers (VIDEO)

 

Lets Expose ISKCON's Molester Messiah's Project on UK Television

[PADA: Yep, they are not going to change after 46 years of doing the same things over and over. They have to be exposed. Agreed. Let me know how I can help. 

Someone just told me they only now found out various victims committed suicide, and / or victims had other major harmful psychological issues, and they just cannot imagine why this was issue not addressed and resolved long ago. Right, but better late than never.   

ys pd / angel108b@yahoo.com]

Chakra Departs / Raktak Health Update

Krishna's sidelong glance / PADA art / angel108b@yahoo.com

PADA: Chakra Best (Nama's child) has departed in a motorcycle incident. Motorcycles are a real hazard anywhere, but especially in places like India. You really don't have much protection. 

A devotee motorcycle rider says -- he has to ride a bike to avoid the constant traffic clogs around here. He said, if you have to ride a bike, ride a dirt bike (like this one). It rides much higher and then you can see way down the road over the cars. And it is a much safer view, and they are a lot more agile and nimble than a road bike. And then, ride slowly and carefully, because there are a lot of idiots out there who do not even see motorcycles. He placed a "loud pipe" on his bike so people could hear him coming better.

That being said, all this advice is too late to help Chakra. Yes, as a matter of fact, there is danger at every step. You are here now, and then poof, you aren't. Thus, we are hoping for the best for his family and friends, and that his soul will move on to a better place. God speed spirit soul! 

Someone else commented -- they thought our kids would be much more pure than us seniors, and they would be the next wave of leaders of ISKCON. OK they would be the leaders now. And they would expand ISKCON nicely. Then -- their kids would be much more pure -- and save and expand ISKCON further. 

None of that seems to have happened as they thought it would. Rather most of our kids abandoned ISKCON, and then their kids have little to zero interest in participating in ISKCON. It is just the same old folks home / worn out / never retiring / not letting go / Jayapataka and his little clique of Radhanath, Bhakti vikas swami, Basu Ghosh, Lokanath, Bhavananda, Hari sauri etc. -- the people no one likes, and they will never work with. Forever. They just took the assets of ISKCON, held them in a vice grip, and would not let all these others enter. 

YUP! ys pd 

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UPDATE on Raktak prabhu

Unfortunately, Raktak prabhu's situation has not improved after surgery today. Further measures are being considered. Per Radha Krishna das.

Keep the prayers coming!

Thank you

Prayers for RAKTAK prabhu

Hare Krishna. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

On Friday Raktak Prabhu was taken to North Florida Hospital after multiple heart attacks the past week. His blood pressure is extremely high and the different medications given are not helping. There is concern that a blood clot is causing his condition so today the doctors will do an exploratory operation to look for the clot. He is in good spirits but desires that the devotees of our community know he appreciates them all and asks for their prayers.

Raktak has lived in the Alachua community for around six years and is soon to turn 62. He has helped many of the devotees in our community by fixing their cars and helping with building projects many time for free or super low cost. His service attitude to devotees is second to none and helps others to the point of neglecting his own needs. He has a fiery nature, a real stand up personally but has a soft heart and a great love for the Lord. He is the most renounced person I know and preaches and chants everywhere he goes.

Written by Radha Krishna das

Please offer your prayers that Lord Krishna guide the surgeon's hand so that Raktak prabhu can recover and continue serving devotees, a service he loves so much!

[PADA: Good luck. Devotees need to watch their diet. There are some very unhealthy vegetarians out there, and some very over weight devotees who are just eating the wrong stuff. Or too much. Anyway, we wish him all the best. Someone else said, many overweight devotees suffer from eating disorders because they are too stressed out. They eat as comfort food. Umm, well perhaps. ys pd]

PADA vs Ramesvara (Robert Grant) / Krishna's or Ours? / Leadership To Blame /

JD: Does no one see the hypocrisy here?

Lord Nrsimha is Against child abusers.

Then ISKCON fills Mayapur with child abusers.

In the name of Lord Nrsimha!!!

Horrific!!! 

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Ramesvara Dasa: Sorry you are repeating false gossip.

I should have involved myself in what devotees you describe as “goondas “ we’re doing in my name, just as any devotee leader should have been more
Involved in what every devotee in their temple or zone we’re doing. That is a very fair criticism.

However, I had nothing even remotely to do with Sulocana. If there was even a hint that I had even an indirect role, I would have been interviewed by FBI or police investigators, and I would have been called to testify in the trial. I was never interviewed or called as a witness in the trial. If there was even rumors of my involvement, I would have been.

That can’t be simply ignored regardless of any bias or gossip you may have heard. It would have been more mature of you to ask me directly if you had such concerns.

PADA: Well sorry prabhu, but your former enforcers (like Ramachandra and others) said they were ordered and inspired to help New Vrndavana by yourself, so its is your word against theirs. We do know that many people were getting jack booted out of the community and treated badly. 

We also know Sulochana was compiling a list of molesting victims from the Los Angeles community, and other communities, and that made him a target. We also know that the police told me to avoid Watseka if I valued my life because "those people" (ok some of them are your remnants) want to take you out. 

A lot of people do a lot of things in ISKCON and never get prosecuted, that is not necessarily evidence of no crime taking place. You were known to be a supporter of Kirtanananda at the time, and there are many people who could confirm that. Sulochana himself said you were making him a target, and you were out to get him. 

He also told me you separately threatened him to not publish the microfiche of the letters. Yep, but I'd love to have a video discussion with you on all this if you want to clear things up. Various media folks have interviewed me and it is their belief that there was a conspiracy of the overall leaders ... includes Los Angeles leaders ... to take down Sulochana, and then, I was next. 

The FBI took down three goons who came to get me. I am sorry for not being mature enough to ask you directly, but lets just say, there are some trust issues here. Another one of your former enforcers apologized to me and he said you guys set them up to be enforcers based on false information, from you.

LA temple was a bunch of goons who were worshiping pedo - orchestrating Jayapataka when I was there. I don't think there has been any improvement since 1978, so this is your legacy. You could have turned that temple into a refuge for us, and not the Mayapur pedo-pushers.  

 ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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"Power in the gang, revolution of chickens... if you will."

Today I reflect on a fact, a phenomenon, always present in societies, except in the holy ones, of course. What is the sacred space of a Temple? What is the relationship with Srila Prabhupada?

An open house to the world, he would say. There we enter humble, learning to touch the ground with our heads, explicitly surrendering our intelligence. We inevitably grow up in it ... in knowledge and humility ... by the power of his Divine Grace alone ... we have awakened that Krishna is the leader - we are servant.

We learn at first "we are not the body" a phrase that we carry until the end of life ... some just don't get it. But we repeat it every day. 

Behold! We inevitably "take possession" of the temples and the holy Dham, now suddenly are "my territory." We then erect walls and barricades, flaunting our newly made hierarchies, sometimes subtle. We see the 'others' in a personal frame ... even poor visitors become framed not as Krishna's but as 'our property'.

Yes, not the "property" of Sri Krishna. Not even of Srila Prabhupada ... because "it is not confirmed in shastras." But it is ... Mine! And then we reign supreme ... until the "enemy" comes along. The competition ... who will take away our position, the place of the leader. Let's fence it up and scare the competition away. 

We round up our best "men" and strike the competition down immediately. No matter how ridiculous we look to the public, or to the other sanghas. We think there are no witnesses in sight ...

Anyone needs this show? Who will be applauding us when we send our trained and trained troops in public on the sacred mission to the streets, more humble than a straw? Meanwhile, in the dark, in the back room, our sacred leaders are trying to remove the saree of some confidential "Draupadi" who was formerly a healthy devotee. Everything looks good on the surface, but there is a dark program underneath. Anyone who complains about the dark program is a threat, who is smashed down with an iron fist. 

"Every devotee must be a gentleman." But lesson not yet learned. Krishna will no doubt come somewhere. Either to help us or vanquish us. And yet we have not learned our lesson.

Or we study the books, but not to realize the truth, but just to establish ourselves as the authority, using our transcendental intelligence in this Movement ... to conquer the movement. And we'll have something else altogether instead. But it will not be Krishna's and Srila Prabhupada's. And whatever this new movement is, it will end up being cursed by the public and the sincere devotees.  

++++++ Dasi

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PJ: Has the leadership of Iskcon ever met a child rapist or child abuser that they didn't like? Perhaps we could send out a survey to the leadership asking them who is their favorite child abuser or enabler of child abuse? This sounds like a sick joke or an unnecessary criticism of something that is untrue. But very sadly there is so much truth to it. 

Over the last four or five decades, all too numerous ISKCON leaders have covered up horrific crimes of rape, torture, and various forms of abuse of defenseless women and children. They have moved child rapists around and around to again let them rape some other unsuspecting devotee families children. 

They have covered up these brutal criminal's crimes, because they are united with the criminals. Then pressured or intimidated the victims and witnesses not to press charges, so they could continue hunting new victims. 

They have reacted swiftly ... to silence and throw out many who objected to the cover ups and crimes. As time went on they have simply elevated these monsters to the highest positions in the movement. Claimed some of them are as good as God and the via medium to becoming pure. (Now there's an oxymoron if ever I saw one). 

They let them sit on big seats, lead kirtans, give classes, lead Ratha Yatras, give seminars, and even initiate as diksha gurus. They've hung out with them, laughed and joked with them, high fived them, become great friends with them, gave them moral and financial support and cover, while they continued and continue to perform the worst acts of Vaishnava Aparadha, on the most defenseless of our members. 

Indeed the internet is replete with photos of one guru, Sanyasi, GBC, or another, chatting, smiling, laughing, hugging and hanging out with the worst type of criminals and people of the most demoniac nature that you can find. It's sad to say but with a few exceptions, the GBC has never seen a pedophile that it didn't fall in love with at first sight. 

P Dasi: It sure as hell looks that way … from any conscious observer. And one of the main reasons I personally only tested the waters, never fully jumping in. In light of so much corruption I intuitively felt it better to back off from this organization. Just wasn’t resonating with me on a soul level, it just felt off. 

V Dasi: Yes, this is the consequence to all the hypocrisy, the movement will not grow, only fanatical, foolish kanistha bhaktas will join while the intelligent, thoughtful aspirants will go somewhere else. This drains out the good and moral people and replaces them with sadistic exploiters and their supporters.

PJ: That's the sad thing. I don't want to turn people of the many wonderful things that I got from becoming involved, but I can't go on with this dishonest charade anymore, where known pedophiles and criminals are worshiped and adored. And where "the leadership" has engaged in a criminal conspiracy to cover up the most heinous crimes for decades. It's really a sad state of affairs. We cannot allow others to fall into their traps.

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PADA: Yep, we do not originate in brahman, we are with Krishna ...

OUR LOVING KṚṢṆA BEFORE WE CAME TO THIS MATERIAL WORLD

When a living entity comes in contact with the material creation, his eternal love for Kṛṣṇa is transformed into lust. Such love of course is always personal between each individual soul and the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The Supreme Lord is a person and the innumerable living entities, who are lovers of the Supreme Lord are also individual persons. Love means there is an individual person. Without an individual person, there is no question of love. When the word "love" is used, there must be two lovers. Then the word “love” is applicable. Not that I simply love the air. No there must be a person.

REFERENCES

When a living entity comes in contact with the material creation, his eternal love for Kṛṣṇa is transformed into lust. —A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (Bg. 3.37 purport)

The Supreme Lord is person, and His innumerable lovers, living entities, they are also individual persons. Love means there is person, individual. Without individual person, there is no question of love. When I..., when the word "love" is used, there must be two lovers. Then the word is applicable, love. If there is no person, love is not with the air. There must be person. — (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 22.11-15 Lecture 9 January 1967)

Letter from the Mayapuris Community

Lets clean up Mayapur

Mayapuri Community
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Hare Krishna, we are sending now some attached filles that support our claims. Please see them carefuly.

Thank you for your time and attention.

ys, Mayapuris Community

Dear GBC members and well-wishers of Srila Prabhupada's family.All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Please accept our humble obeisances.We, the international society for Krsna consciousness community based in Mayapur Dham, need your help.For decades now Mayapur is a lawless land.

Mayapur Dham and Her residents are praying to Lord Krsna to save us from the demonic influence in which we find ourselves.

We hope that Krsna will work through you to help us.There is fear among the devotees.

Fear for our children.

Fear of losing faith.

Fear to speak up.

Fear of making "Vaishnava aparadha" by speaking the truth.

Fear for our future. We feel neglected by our ISKCON managers.

For so long the community's concerns and needs have been hushed, followed by an utter lack of action. We have had a Gurukula run by EX Bhakti Vidya Purna for over 30yrs, a "convicted" by CPO (ISKCON sister branch for the protection of our children) abuser. Those letters were sent to GBCs and seniors and leaders all over the world.

Anyone that is anyone would have known about it. And still here, in Mayapur Dham, nothing has changed. He was even allowed to open a girls' Gurukula!!! And hurt too many young ladies.

His actions emotionally wreck hundreds if not thousands of devotees all across the world, as well as going against all Vaishnava and sanyasa behavior. If this were anywhere else in the world, they would have shut us down. It's all over the internet. The lack of action that our management is taking is spectacular.

We have had two ishtagoshtis,

Session 1- in which they really worked hard on keeping us as quiet and controlled as possible, by filtering our questions, completely disregarding serious questions and silencing us.

Session 2 - they talked 50% of the time about visas (after allegations of lower level management using visa extensions for to silence or control devotees). Then reading out some of the questions and suggestions from the previous ishtagoshti. And giving the mic around to let the devotees vent for a very short time.

They sent an email for instructions to send our BIG problems to them via mayapurtaskforce@gmail.com and they will sort it out with time. How can the same management who enabled this criminal behaviour (sexual abuse of children, lack of reporting, theft of large funds and land, violence, murder, domestic assault, police officers being paid off, etc) be the same management to now set us straight?

How are we to be happy with all this!? 40 years of child neglect and abuse and well as a total mafia environment?! Here in Mayapur Dham! No Prabhus and Matajis, we are not satisfied in the least.

We love our home, Mayapur Dham. Srila Prabhupada really did build a house in which the whole world can live in. We need to feel safe and at peace, we want to see our community flourish as Bhakti Vinoda Thakur saw. To spread and protect Krsna Consciousness. And it needs to start at home, at the headquarters of the international society for Krsna consciousness, ISKCON Shree Dham Mayapur. 

There are some pressing issues that need urgent attention.- Temporarily close the gurukula pending overhaul of staff & directors, even though current parents might be in illusion and want to keep their kids there. We have heard of cases of older boys abusing younger ones as recent as last year.

The same staff members that were there at the Gurukula, under EX Bhakti Vidya Purna’s guidance and influence, are the ones running the Gurukula.

Anyone that was an adult during those years should not be allowed in that school, as either they knew and did nothing or are too blind and deaf to have picked up the signs.- Replace and fund the cpt separate from the hands and interests of co-directors/management.

We, the International community of Mayapur residents, don't feel safe with the proposal of Mayapur Child protection team, now "child care team", going under the guidance, and authority of ICC and Pancaratna's bogus, newly minted ICPO India. This is another work around to avoid the original CPO, and the members are hand selected by the same people who covered all this up for years.

To start - remove Satadhanya das from tovp as per GBC resolution and restrict Bhavananda das’s public services to a humble position in the corner of the temple. Nothing high profile for either.

We are aware of the upcoming investigation led by the Avanti school in the UK. We pray that this team will be determined to find the truth and not be intimidated or bribed by the local Mayapur management. We, the devotees residents of Mayapur Dham, humbly appeal to you to take action towards the betterment of our ISKCON capital. 

This level of corruption is truly unacceptable. We understand that it's Kaliyuga and it's only going to get worse, but the devotees need to make a stand against Maya, we need strong gatekeepers to keep the Dham pure and safe. Please help us keep our children safe, they are the future of all of us.

Please help us keep our Mayapur safe. She is the home of millions of devotees from all over the world. Please help us create an environment of purity and mercy, just as Lord Chaitanya is, who was born just down the road. Please help us keep manifesting the dream of Bhaktivinoda Thakur.

Please help us serve Sridham Mayapur in such a way that would be pleasing to our beloved Srila Prabhupada and precious Acharyas.Humbly serving together

The Mayapur Community

H.G. Bhavananda Prabhu_Srila Prabhupad Katha_26.10.2022 https://youtu.be/gwv4O2PVobg

[PADA: The Mayapur Open Forum (not the same people in this letter), a GBC friendly group, kicked me off from day one. Then they said they are going to place tantric curses on me, because I was making offenses to their homosexual and pedophile guru parampara members. In other words, they are a simply false flag front for the pedophile worship program. 

It is another false reform. All of the child molester guru's program leaders / and enablers etc. need to be taken off all posts of authority. They are corrupt people, they cannot be reformed. And it is a total waste of 45 years waiting to reform them, just get them out of there and establish bona fide non-pedophile pooja leadership. OK maybe you guys should start to work with Madhu Pandit's project. That would be a better option than what you have now. ys pd] 

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DM Bails Out of Mayapur / NM Groupie / HK Dasi

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DM Bails Out of Mayapur

Some Context

My recent post about Lokanatha Maharaja and ISKCON was made as part of various efforts to induce the GBC to do the right thing and prevent him from speaking at the ISKCON Leadership Sanga (ILS) in Mayapur.

I've been part of organizing that event for months and have been sensing for some time things would end in the tragic way they did yesterday - with LNS permitted to participate in whatever capacity he wants.

Two days ago I'd received a 58 page document from LNS supporters 'proving' how he never did what he confessed on multiple occasions he did as part of an appeal made to many officials to allow his participation.

The GBC and others may be distracted from doing what's right by the back and forth of a victim / perpetrator narrative that seems to be defeated by various philosophical ideas when taken in a vacuum - but our own sastra makes it clear with abundant examples what a well situated person would do and want to see done in this real world case.

As so-called stewards of this culture the GBC should understand facts don't matter (whatever their idea of them is) in consideration of social stability - and thus the obvious recourse now is that Maharaja step away voluntarily or be kept away by their administration.

When meaningful numbers of the decision makers involved are skeptical that LNS ever abused a child, pinning the strategy on that point alone may not be most effective in seeing the desired outcome.

Every GBC has varying concerns, but have as a group shown jurisprudence to be a low priority and competency in nearly every case. They are horrible at administering justice in cases of misconduct.

Compounding this, the real threat of ISKCON India splitting off terrifies many of them. Their sense of service legacy to Srila Prabhupada is rooted in offering an intact ISKCON on their own death bed (unlike what the Gaudiya Math apparently did to SBS) - even if it is an empty ISKCON everywhere outside of India and it's diaspora.

[PADA: Yes, interesting that GBC wanted to establish that Krishna's successor acharyas are often -- illicit sex with men, women and children sexual predators, drunks, drug addicts, machine gun swamis, Vodka drinkers, porno swamis, and orchestrators of muders etc. And that emptied out ISKCON, because almost cent percent of human beings want to worship pure devotees as their guru and not debauchees. 

Then people like Bhakti Vikas swami say that worshiping pure devotees is like worshiping "a skeleton," because otherwise, how could he establish worship of his anal reconstructive surgery epidemic project's messiahs? BVKS has spent his whole life establishing the worship of pedophiles as acharyas, and now he is worried ISKCON might split and make women gurus, because women as a class are not big fans of BVKS's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's program? 

Which is why, even the mundane media people ask me things like, "are most of the current ISKCON leaders homosexuals, and are some of them pedophiles? Because otherwise would they think homosexual pedophiles means samadhi?]

In light of these political realities, at the end of making my own principled understanding clear - I offered what I still feel is an elegant way forward practically. I accept if some feel that approach would be unacceptable as a policy, but I don't accept that dealing with political realities (especially as someone in something of a position to do so) is an act of betrayal to virtue.

Krishna's own Lila in the Mahabharata and His own attempts at diplomatic solutions to similar situations let's us know such attempts aren't unholy. If you wanted to say it all ended with a black and white war I wouldn't disagree we may be heading there also, but I want to stand on the battlefield in good faith that I tried my best to be patient as well as progressive.

I shared my own appreciation of a time with Maharaja in kirtan for two reasons. 
First, for the sake of his disciples and supporters who I know are struggling to discern the good in their own life he was part of while admitting the bad effects of his behavior. I was heartened to receive several notes from such persons saying the whole message gave them clarity on the situation and how they could move forward honorably.

Second, I also did this in the mood that if you can't see the good in someone you can't see the bad in them either. Personally, I don't see Maharaja as an emblem of evil and I don't want others to assume I do, whether they would agree or disagree themselves with that idea.

The whole case has always depended on his confession, which at one time he offered. Others have and will again use their privilege to deny abuse absolutely, and Maharaja somehow came to a sober place at least for a time. That he now seems to find his own position and power too important to let go of isn't surprising, it's very typical behavior. How many times did Indra misbehave? And each time he felt he deserved restoration - and each time it was granted - often by God himself.

I personally worry more about anyone who thinks they'd be immune to the same unbecoming behavior if in a similar situation. The real failure I see is that of the GBC. There is too long list of persons in our society who on some level were repentant for misbehavior and were tricked into thinking their service was more important than their soul.

I believe Maharaja has fallen prey to similar. I don't see Maharaja as someone uniquely qualified, as I feel that would bear the behavior of Parikshit or Citraketu. But I don't see him as someone uniquely malicious either.

His admission was a cry for help on some level, and his Sanga failed to provide him what he needed - choosing instead to continue to take what it wanted from him. He is no doubt complicit in the present maladies and I'm not excusing him, but also not isolating him as a sole agent of the fallout from his misdeeds as that would be to enable the toxicity to continue forward in it's more worrisome and pernicious forms.

We are rarely as good or as bad as we or others want to make us out to be. The myth of ISKCONs importance is at the heart of all of this, and it will claim many more victims until it's admitted and addressed by the leadership.

[PADA: Lets face it, as long as ISKCON bans, beats, sues and maybe even kills people for not agreeing that sexual predators are God's successors, it will never have any widespread credibility. Even in so-called mleccha society, they all know that sexual predators are not, were not, could not have been Krishna's guru successors.]

As I committed to, in light of Maharaja being welcomed to speak at the ILS I will withdraw my own two presentations there as well as resign from my service with the GBC SPT as I don't see value in remaining involved at that level given the present dynamics.

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AC: This gives me some hope for iskcon, but not for the current leadership. We must stop devotees from supporting programs where child abusers are being honored. Boycott them.

DD: We shouldn't be surprised. After reaffirming his supposed fitness to serve as a guru - God's via medium, someone fully representing the parampara, etc - of course, they also think he's qualified to speak about leadership.

This means that they know nothing about leadership - and guru tattva - failing to understand that morality is a fundamental pre-requisite. Let's hope the attendees of ILS vote with their feet. Let's campaign on that front.

SR: It seems that the GBC is paying no attention to the victim’s statement? Instead making all their decision based on Lokanth’s ever evolving statements?

MB: Jayapataka Maharaja has thousands and thousands of disciples. He is a powerful and charismatic personality. He could change the whole atmosphere in Mayapur, but he is not doing. It is going on since decades.

GP: This indicates the GBC and others have totally lost the plot, totally lost it, pressure from grass roots is required to correct this serious problem.

DK: It's better to stay away like Vidura went to travel when it was time.

SR: DM wrote:

"The whole case has always depended on his confession, which at one time he offered."

It is actually more than 10 times that over the years Lokanath made admissions of responsibility for sexually abusing an 11 year old child.

https://lokanath.net/lokanaths-admissions-of-molesting-a.../

Also this sentence could be misinterpreted to mean that the statements of the victim and her mother don't carry much weight in this conversation.

LOKANATH.NET

>>How many times did Indra misbehave? And each time he felt he deserved restoration - and each time it was granted - often by God himself. <<

GG: Except Indra is not a guru in the parampara. He is a conditioned soul who has problems with lust, anger and greed ... and therefore he is not ever advertised as Krishna's successor. Indra knows he has these problems, and so does everyone else, including Krishna. God forgives the failings of neophyte devotees in some cases, but that should not open the floodgates to make forgiving failing people a regular daily program. At the same time they never forgive us for complaining.

PADA to Narayan Maharaja groupie: OK so I am saying there is mass child molesting going on, while you and the other NM / Tamal folks are saying this is all insane rubbish. And that is why we had to have NM and Tamal's program sued for $400,000,000. And the courts agreed with me, and the thousands of victims. 

I am sorry but your saying that our protesting child molesting is insane rubbish -- is why we had to have the Tamal program -- supported by NM -- sued. Why is protesting mass child molesting "insane rubbish"? 

Sorry, every sane and moral person has a duty to protest mass child molesting, and the people who say our protest is -- insane rubbish -- are the people who enabled and caused and created the molesting in the first place. The courts agreed with me, this is not insane rubbish, this is criminal child abuse. 

Attacking the people who are exposing child abuse, causes child abuse. When NM was in Texas yelling at my associates not to attack Tamal, I was in Texas organizing having Tamal sued. The courts agreed with me, child molesting complaints are not insane rubbish, they are pointing to criminal action. What is insane rubbish is NM's defending Tamal and his molesting empire. ys pd"

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From: Hari-kanta d.d.  yandex.ru

Date: Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:40 AM

Subject: Re: {Mayapur Open Forum} Prabhupada’s Daughters Speak Out on VDG
To: Leadership Discussions <leadership....@pamho.net>

Hare Kṛṣṇa.
All glories to Śrila Prabhupāda!

Two statements about the appeal of Srila Prabhupada's Daughters...

Although I am of the opinion that the role of diksa gurus is not gender specific, one of their arguments struck me as being both cynical and hypocritical. They write:

"Currently, our ISKCON society is very concerned about the abuse of children
and women. Women, who are also mostly mothers, are the natural protectors
and guardians of children. But when their voices are ignored, silenced or
vilified, it opens the door for abuse of women." and children."

When in 2020 I approached several of Srila Prabhupada's women disciples
about cases of severe violence against women in Russian-speaking ISKCON,
they ignored me, although they read my letters. And later, when I posted a
video with evidences about it:

https://youtu.be/b6gt6caubII

https://youtu.be/D5zkaRQiZbk

These matajis accused me that they tried to talk to me, but I did not make contact and developed an offensive mood!! In fact, they took part in
denigrating the person who spoke about this violence, and did not help or
protect the victims. These are the same Malati dd and Mondakini dd who
signed this new appeal, where they press pity on cases of violence against
children and women!

How cynical and cruel one must be to behave so shamelessly!

And it is correct that they were not given authority. Although this comes
from the same hypocrites and defenders of pedophiles - GBC, but in this
case, some criminals outsmarted others.

Therefore, I can conclude that these women not only have not yet reached the
proper qualification of a guru, but they are fighting for a place under the
sun only for the sake of personal position and power. The unscrupulous and
deceitful cannot be gurus.

Hk d.d.

THIS IS NOT PRABHUPADA'S MOVEMENT

On a recent thread, someone asked about the progress of Prabhupada's Movement in Bulgaria, to which I basically asked "Where?" because I haven't seen it.

Below is my comment to a question (to the effect of) whether or not the devotees in Bulgaria have even scratched the surface of Prabhupada's teachings:

MY ANSWER:

"Not really,, they have not yet become anywhere near the core teachings (of Shrila Prabhupada). Here (Hare Krishna in Bulgaria) is a kaleidoscope of mental speculation, and they all just agree with each other in a pact of mutual back scratching. There is a health yoga spa, a Gauranga Yoga and Rokovski center, plagiarized books by "bhaktivedantas", physical yoga based upon Rupa Goswami and Rumi at once, and a nut house. Marriage is becoming a farce. It is so deviated that it scares me. I just keep away, and they keep away from me also."

IMAGE: Hare Krishna Health Spa on the Black Sea run by disciples of Prahladananda Swami. When did Prabhupada want devotees to offer massage in their centers? Oh, but what does anyone care. It's all one here in Bulgaria.

[PADA: OK it is a business.]

Madhu Pandit Discussion (Video)

 

https://twitter.com/madhupanditdasa/status/1618253640539734016?

PADA: Yes, prabhu it is true. As soon as the ISKCON GBC / India ICC / ISKCON Leadership Sangha (ILS) folks find out someone does not want to worship their homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, porno swamis and other assorted sordid "acharyas" and "messiahs from God in heaven" -- and that person wants to worship pure devotees like Srila Prabhupada -- then they will spend $20,000,000 suing the people who want to worship Srila Prabhupada. 

Meanwhile, the children in their care complained that they were being fed rotten moldy oatmeal because of lack of funds. Yes, the main priority of people like Jayapataka and his sisyas like Bhakti Vikas swami is -- to make sure their court people have nice Mercedes to go out and buy their chicken tikkas dinners. Feeding the ISKCON children, establishing the worship of Srila Prabhupada etc. was never their priority. 

And that has not been their priority for the past 46 years. The good news is, more people are demanding they step down and give up their false guru business. ys pd