Satsvarupa Das Goswami (Stephen Guarino) Non-Apology -- Apology

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2014/01/narayan-maharaja-saves-satsvarupa.html

Satsvarupa Das Goswami (Stephen Guarino) 

Dear ex-gurukulis who attended the Dallas school,

A Letter of Apology

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. 

I want to write you a letter of apology for my misconduct or abuse toward you when you were small children and I was the GBC of Dallas Gurukula. During my period of service there, I did not enact any punishments for psychological abuses such as I have heard you suffered from in the extreme. I have heard you say you were beaten, put into closets, threatened that rats would come after you, yelled at, etc.

My abuses were not things I did do but an omission of proper management and care for you. I was aloof from you; I should have been more of a father and mixed with them intimately and with compassion and love. You were sent away from your parental homes and we, the faculty at Dallas Gurukula (including myself as the figurehead-leader) became your surrogate parents. 

I should have been more compassionate to you and forgiven you for their inevitable rambunctiousness as young children. I was not an ashram teacher or class teacher, so I did not mix much intimately with you. My sin was not to come close to you, show you affection and guidance. I am sorry I inadvertently caused abuse to you for not being your friend, more big-hearted and forgiving.

My guilt is not so much what I did to you but what I didn’t do. I didn’t play with you or hug you. I didn’t act as your close friend or surrogate father. I ask you to please forgive me for being an aloof “principal” of the school, rather than an exemplary Vaisnava friend and companion.

I ask your forgiveness,

Satsvarupa das Goswami

*** Dasi: That is awful and unacceptable. Good luck to all who suffered these atrocities. 

V Das: He wrote now? or earlier?

S. Dasi: Today, right now.

KP Devi: Hopefully others will follow his example ... and offer really meant apology ... not mere words....

KDM: This is not an apology. Skirting and minimizing the extent of the abuse, while absolving oneself of responsibility. Maybe I’m just cynical. But a much shorter and direct apology is due. Not a script writer. But I’d expect an apology closer to this: 

"I’m so sorry!!!! I was an arrogant, unqualified child, way out of my league.... and 'I f*cked up' majorly. Nothing I can ever say or do will ever atone for my what happened under my leadership. I beg for your forgiveness and beg for the opportunity to make amends to you, whether in this life or the next. It is my fault! I accept that. And for that, I am eternally remorseful. 'I am so sorry!' Please call me at (xxx) xxx-xxxx and know that I will do my best to earn your forgiveness.

BW: 100%

JD: Don't quite have a reaction ready for this one... Should be a "like" that Maharaja actually thought to speak out and apologize, but yes, the whole mood is not really apologetic, is it? It's a bit ambivalent, as these things go... 

BW: Taking responsibility and ownership for everything that happens on their watch is expected of a leader. He was the GBC and ultimately in charge of the whole temple and school. Even in the Corporate and Political world, leaders understand this very simple concept of ownership of mistakes and tender their resignations. Instead we have; I heard there was abuse, but it wasn’t my doing, so I’m sorry I didn’t interact more with all the rambunctious children like I should have in the way of a father figure. I mean really? Lord help me.

EB: Too little, too late.

[PADA: Yes, lives have been destroyed and a number committed suicide, and a number have contemplated suicide. This problem has not been happening from leaders merely "being aloof." This process happened because SDG has been the ACTIVE biggest defender of the regime, and he was helping people like Kirtanananda and Bhavananada become "gurus" for the gurukula children in India. 

And SDG was writing all sorts of "position papers" and "GBC reports" to promote and uphold his pedophile messiah's program after 1978. SDG also wrote that me and Sulochana are "poison pens." Demonizing people can get them killed, that is well known. Sulochana said SDG has painted a bull's eye on my back. He would know better than most. Where is the apology to Sulochana and me, for trying to get us killed, and actually getting one of us killed? 

And SDG still invites folks like Dhanurdar to his "meetings" even recently. And Muarli Vadaka and others are still hanging around. In any case, too late to fix the ruined lives, suffering, suicides, assorted other deaths, murders, and their giant $400m lawsuits etc. that SDG's regime ALREADY caused. Of course something is better than nothing, but this is not much of anything -- because it does not explain the real situation: SDG has been a vociferous enforcer in "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of pedophiles as messiahs project." 

OK! VOCIFEROUS defender and constant position paper writer of the regime! 

Then again he writes, "the more I chant the drier it gets," "I am the guru of pills" etc. which is like giving Krishna's name a really bad advert. So he wants deviants to be worshiped as Krishna's successors, which is an attack on Krishna. If Krishna's "pure devotee successors" are criminals, sexual predators and deviants, that makes Krishna a criminal, sexual predator and deviant because the guru is "shaksat hari tvena" -- or the same quality as God. And if pedophiles are "in quality equal to God," then that will spur a GIANT outgrowth of pedophile's webs, nests and assorted out cropping -- all over the society -- because we become what we worship. 

Notice: SDG never explains why he wanted the children to worship pedophiles as their messiahs from square one? Why did SDG enforce that the ISKCON children have to worship pedophiles and assorted deviants as their "gurus," he never explains, ever. 

The good news is we have Rambhouru, Prithu et al. and their "Trauma Therapy" group on hand. So after Rambhouru's violent pedophile cult program stuffs pedophile pooja down the throats of three years old children, they can later give their victims comfort with "therapy." And what is that therapy? We STILL have to worship their illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's program. Wait? Same program that causes the trauma? We are going to fix the problem, by cramming the same problem down your throat -- again. Then they make pretend they do not know why people are committing suicide, or they feel suicidal?]

JJ: Where the hell are the Kshatriyas in this movement? You are ALL cowards for letting this happen and doing nothing! I'd like a few minutes alone with each of these abusers... we can start with Murli-Vadaka who raped children in Lake Huntington Gurukula and still goes to the Hartford Center, I'm told he even gives class. Srila Prabhupada said, "Anyone who harms a child should be hung". You scumbags better remember - Karma NEVER loses an address.

S Dasi: Yep, he does. Thank you for your support.

JJ: Ima going to show up there one day.

KE Dasi: "I ask you to please forgive me for being an aloof “principal” of the school, rather than an exemplary Vaisnava friend and companion." If he had ANY inclination of abuse, that is a disgusting apology. These people aren't suffering because they didn't get a hug from the principal, they're suffering because of long term ongoing abuse that was permitted or hidden away, and then the results never dealt with.

I'm disgusted to see so much congratulations for this on his post. No, this isn't even the bare minimum, he's not actually owning up to anything, just apologizing that abuse occurred in some abstract way separated from him.

[PADA: I did not hit you, my stick did.]

S Dasi: Thank you for this apology Maharaja. Something as seemingly simple as a few written words can have a deep effect. I cried reading this, because I have heard of some of the terrible suffering my gurukuli brothers and sisters endured in Dallas and it's so important that leaders such as yourself acknowledge what happened. Thank you.

Something you can do to keep children safe in Srila Prabhupada's movement is to donate to the Child Protection Office which is in dire need of resources. I have seen firsthand their director Lilasuka actively educating devotees on preventing, identifying, and healing child abuse. Thank you. 

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[PADA: That is nice, however when me and Sulochana were reporting the molesting Satsvarupa said we are "poison pens" which resulted in the assassination of Sulochana, who was being demonized for reporting the molesting. ys pd]

LW Dasi: Thank you for searching your soul for a sincere apology and finding the humility to express it. Continue reading at your own discretion. I ask difficult questions, not to induce further pain, although they well might, but to prompt deeper growth.

Were you aware young ones slept on the floor?

Were you aware that being separated from their parents at such a young age caused irreparable distress?

Were you aware that being told one is not their body, while inhibiting a body that is constantly crying out to be connected with, can cause severe inner psychological turmoil?

I assume the answers are no, or at least at the time the abuse occurred, they were no.

When adults are not mindful of how their chosen beliefs impact their emotions, they grow blind to how their chosen beliefs impact the emotions of others too.

Please picture what a society that perceives Krsna in every child (at least in equal measure to the manifested form on the altar) would behave like.

Would it treat young ones like dolls to be kept out of the way until useful? Would it impress upon parents that their children, a direct gift from the one they serve on the altar, are but mere distractions to the true and important work of spiritual pursuits?

Because -- as a child raised in this institution, I strongly feel many facets of applied dogmatic belief, directly shape and facilitate the abuse of others.

Y DASA: Thanks for your apology Maharaja it takes a big man to admit that he's made mistakes, that called redemption I feel in your post your sincerity and we must always remember we all make mistakes that's the reason why we're here in this material world. Thank you for your heartfelt apology. 

JD: Not sure quite frankly what to make of this letter, Maharaja, with all due respect - I am not a gurukuli, but I am a great champion of children, and I really don't see that these words will truly bring any solace to those who lived those traumatic days so many years ago... 

Someone might feel gladdened that you have had the desire to express your feelings about those horrific events, and perhaps this letter may even motivate some similar consciousness raising among other senior devotees who saw and stood by. They could have said something, but didn't. 

[PADA: Yep, the so-called "silent majority." Stood by and did nothing. A daughter of a "senior devotee" said to PADA she will never understand why her own mother never reported her own daughter's abuse to the police authorities. She said, this really is a child molesting cult, I lived it. And the elders are part of the problem just as much as the leaders they enabled. Of course a lot of them were not silent, they actively and openly opposed me and Sulochana when we were exposing the molesting problem.]

These "senior devotees" might even have been peripherally aware of things at that time, but who lacked the courage (maturity? integrity?) to step up and say no, not only in Dallas, but in all of the centers where children's safety and healthy growth was just not a priority. But overall, honestly speaking, from a spiritual wordsmith like you, someone who knows how to craft a simple phrase that touches the right nerve, this kind of letter is... well, why not seek them out, the children who were there and personally apologize to them, one by one? 

Or why not find their parents and talk to them in person? Personalism, humanity, individual care - mostly, these are the things that are missing in abuse situations, aren't they? The fact that the abuser (or the complicit enabler) didn't think about the individual, didn't see the maimed and injured child as a person, as a devotee, as a spiritual person? 

Please forgive me for being so vocal - perhaps I should delete this post, and maybe I will. But maybe I should say what comes to my heart before I lose the courage just like all of the complicit enablers did before me, and just take my place in the line of silent facilitators of doom...

[PADA: Yikes, silent facilitators of doom ... oh my! Sulochana said they are tossing their own society's children into a wood chipper, same idea expressed more graphically.]

Y DASA: My heart felt I should reply to your post. I was not affiliated in any way with the Dallas situation -- but I heard about it. One thing comes to mind when I read your post is your lack of compassion. Lord Chaitanya compassion towards us gave us a chance to go back to him. 

We are all in this material world because we messed up in the past we have murdered been murdered so many lives millions of them, and so we end up here on this planet Earth. Redemption and Reformation are a part of healing. One thing we can give to those children that were abused is showing some compassion in our own mindsets. Maharaj said he was not directly involved in the abuse but he was the overseer. One quality of a Vaishnava is compassion. Sorry if I said too much here but these are my feelings about this. 

[PADA: The overseers are the main people responsible? That is what happened at the Nuremburg trials, the overseers got the bigger punishments than the foot soldiers. Satsvarupa was writing that me and Sulochana are "poison pens" for exposing his child molesting messiah's project. He was actively trying to get us killed by demonizing us, and he did get one of us killed. 

Of course foot soldiers are also implicated. For example, Mula Prakriti dasi was one of the "senior devotees" who was opposing me. She angrily chastised me, "You just want to start another Nuremburg trial for the child abuse." Yep, absolutely correct. 

And you self-evidently do not want that trial to occur -- because that enables, empowers and facilitates the mass child molesting. Then she began to promote Narayan Maharaja, who was in Dallas propping up Tamal at the very exact time we were putting together the molesting lawsuit. And her hero "new messiah" Narayan Maharaja was shouting at our associates for opposing Tamal. So as soon as Narayan Maharaja finds out his favorite child molesting messiah's program is being attacked, he goes on the defense.  

OK NM is another enabler. And a vociferous one. And Mula and others all ran off to promote one of Tamal's biggest hand maidens-- NM. 

(A) We are enablers of a pedophile messiah's club ourselves, and; 

(B) we are promoting the worship of other enablers like NM, and worse --; 

(C) we do not want a Nuremburg accounting -- and we are expecting --;

(D) exactly what other result? 

So Satsvarupa is a leader -- and he will be one of the main guys at the Nuremberg trials in Yamaraja's court -- but all of the other assorted enabling hand maidens are co-responsible -- and they will also all go on trial for lesser crimes, but all of them are part of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of pedophile messiahs process. They are all co-equally guilty to lesser or greater degree, by omission or commission -- and almost all of them are guilty collectively of giving me grief for protesting their regime. Again, "enforced" is the key word here.] 

NB Dasi: Thank you for writing this out. I always wondered how all this awful behavior went on during your watch. It is easy to say one was ignorant, but to quote one of your old, old classes, I have heard many times on tape (perhaps you got the phrase from Srila Prabhupada) "ignorance is not innocence". 

You've set a good example now by offering an apology. Better late than never. I hope others can do the same. Children should never be treated the way they were in Dallas. Anyone who says differently is part of the problem, whether they were an active or inactive participant on that abuse.

SP DASA: I can attest to rats in Dallas, I didn't know that a devotee of the Lord could abuse children like I've heard. I also admit to emotional abusing my young children by leaving them to pursue my own selfish advancement in Krishna Consciousness. This I live with everyday of my life, thinking it was the Krishna Conscious thing to do, abandoning my family to pursue selfish ideals. Sincerely, 

BS: So, now may the justice come to remove people from Iskcon that have been abusers? Are some in the ranks?

KP Devi: Hopefully others will follow his example...and offer really meant apology...not mere words....

KB Dasi: I have treated several traumatized Gurukulis in my psychiatric practice over the years. While an apology is a nice gesture, it far from adequate to repair the damage done to innocents who are now adults and still suffering. I am in no position to judge anyone, but I do believe Lord Yamaraj keeps accurate ledgers.

[PADA: Yamaraja keeps ledgers, right.] 

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