HH Bhakti Caitanya swami (aka Richard Stuart Naismith)
a "member in good standing" in the
"Pedophile Messiahs In Samadhi Club."
From: HH Bhakti Caitanya Swami (formerly Richard Stuart Naismith)
Re: ICC resolution on Lokanath Swami
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Dear devotees of the Indian Continental Committee (ISKCON ICC),
Please accept my most humble obeisances at your feet. All glories to
Srila Prabhupada, the savior of us all. My name is Bhakti Caitanya Swami. I am the Chairman of the Executive Committee of the GBC Body.
On May 13th evening the Executive Committee received a message from Sahadeva prabhu containing a resolution passed by yourselves regarding two resolutions passed by the GBC Body concerning Lokanatha Maharaja. Your resolution was strongly worded and it was clear that you were disturbed by our two resolutions. That is quite understandable.
Your resolution stated that you were asking the ISKCON India Bureau to “take up the case with the GBC, with a view to reverse this injustice and have the GBC tender an apology to Lokanath Swami.” Bearing that in mind, the GBC Body yesterday formed a committee to deal with this matter.
If the ICC wants to interact with our committee directly we will be happy to communicate with you. As the GBC Chairman, I am the Chairman of that Committee, and I feel strongly that there is a great need for us to communicate directly with you. I can assure you that it will not be improper for yourselves to approach us directly – rather we will be happy to get your association, plus we will be able to avoid any lack of clarity.
At this stage I would appeal to you all, as senior leaders in Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON, to please consider that if the GBC Body passes resolutions like this, the matter they are related to must be very serious, and of great concern to the Body. Please approach us directly if situations like this arise that appear extraordinary, or need explanation. As Chairman I give you my word that I will always be
completely honest and open with you.
So please contact me, as a Committee or individually. I want to hear from you and work with you at the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada. My email address is:
bhakti.caitanya.swami@gmail.com
Hoping this meets you well.
Your servant,
Bhakti Caitanya Swami
PS: This morning I was sent a copy of what I think is a proposal being
presented for your consideration, regarding a rather incredible statement apparently made by Malati devi dasi. I have distributed that to the GBC members for their feedback, and to consider what sort of consequences there should be for her. I don’t know the source of the “joke” she apparently made, but I will do my best to find that out, also.
[PADA: OK so the GBC has been promoting various pedophiles (or de facto pedophiles who have sex with followers) as their "guru successors to God," and for decades. And evidently, the different managers and / or managing committees are not aware of this problem within the organization? Now, after all their banning, beating, child molesting, suing and assassination of people who objected, all of a sudden, they are going to make a committee to discuss all this!
My friends in South Africa tell me there are big hired goons at the temple to chase away the Prabhupada devotees. Only members of Bhakti Chaitanya's pedophile messiahs program are welcomed in ISKCON S. Africa. They even sent me a video of them being harassed away.
Basically, anyone who does NOT think that God's gurus and successors are an illicit sex with men, women and children club of deviants -- is not allowed at ISKCON South Africa. Goondas will chase away anyone who worships pure devotees and not their debauchee messiah's club.
Anyway! How is it possible that one hand does not know what the other is doing, when there are not even more than maybe 50 ISKCON GBC managers altogether? Of course, now we don't know for sure how many there are -- because they failed to post their 2021 resolutions. Wonder why?
As for Bhakti Chaitanya swami, he is "2/3 show of hands" voted in as guru by the same group that reinstates oral sex with Taxi drivers as their Vishnupada acharya. Why have they been saying oral sex with Taxi drivers equals a "Vishnupada acharya" at all, ever? So this is rather amazing, there is a teeny number of managers, and one manager has no idea what the other is doing?
As for Bhakti Chaitanya swami, he is "2/3 show of hands" voted in as guru by the same group that reinstates oral sex with Taxi drivers as their Vishnupada acharya. Why have they been saying oral sex with Taxi drivers equals a "Vishnupada acharya" at all, ever? So this is rather amazing, there is a teeny number of managers, and one manager has no idea what the other is doing?
Yes! By the way, I am the manager of the committee that you need to talk to. One ISKCON committee does not know who is in charge of the other committee? And we are dealing with the same maybe 50 guys altogether? And they failed to post their own Mayapur resolutions, so no one in their own party knows who is in charge of what?
"Vishnu" is God. And thus to say sex with Taxi drivers is God's "Vishnupada guru successor," is not only wrong -- but incredibly offensive. Why would guys like Bhakti Chaitanya Swami and Bhatki Vikas swami et al. and others fall at the feet of this program -- to get voted into it themselves? "All glories to the -- sex with Taxi drivers in the dham -- Vishnupada program -- let me be voted into it too. Sign me up! I need to be certified as a card carrying member of the oral sex with Taxi drivers in the dham guru parampara too"!
From: "Malati devi dasi" <malatidevi108@gmail.com>
Subject: Response
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And! What could go wrong here pilgrims?
And should not they all know by now, that the overall group reinstates oral sex with Taxi drivers -- in the dham -- as their GOD's SUCCESSOR acharya? As their Vishnupada acharya no less? And nearly simultaneously, the same identical group votes in more acharyas? OK like Bhakti Chaitanya swami?
And should they not know by now, that some of these managers buried a known homosexual pedophile in a samadhi in the dham? And that is evidently why -- some ex-gurukulis students told me -- there was molesting "in every nook and cranny" of their society? And now they need to form a committee to decide if pedophile messiah's worship is a good idea, or not?
And! That due to their idea of forcing ISKCON's little children to worship pedophiles and deviants as their messiahs, ISKCON was then sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse? And so on and so forth? How is it that no one seems to know nothing about any of these type things, ever? Very odd.
So the North American GBC says we have to get rid of their pedophile guru, the India ICC says we need to keep their pedophile guru, and now we have to make a series of committees and consultation groups to figure out -- what is what? Meanwhile, any average Joe six-pack hamburger eating person walking down the street knows that -- it is wrong to EVER force little children to worship pedophiles as their gurus and messiahs -- or in samadhis -- and in the dham no less. At all. Ever. OK forever. Why don't all these people and their endless lists of committees know this too?]
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Malati: I came back to serve!
Serve what?
The illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs club.
Oh swell!
From: "Malati devi dasi" <malatidevi108@gmail.com>
Subject: Response
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Respected ICC Members, GBC Members, and EC Members,etc
I humbly and genuinely apologize, begging forgiveness from all those whom I've deeply offended by my complete disregard of Vaishnava eloquence and etiquette, especially those great souls who have always been kind upon me.
I realize and fully accept that the example I chose to use was completely inappropriate. While it was not intended as a "joke," I failed to make my intention clear and instead, offended many saintly leaders who have rightly objected. For this, I am deeply sorry.
I humbly and genuinely apologize, begging forgiveness from all those whom I've deeply offended by my complete disregard of Vaishnava eloquence and etiquette, especially those great souls who have always been kind upon me.
I realize and fully accept that the example I chose to use was completely inappropriate. While it was not intended as a "joke," I failed to make my intention clear and instead, offended many saintly leaders who have rightly objected. For this, I am deeply sorry.
So far as the other items mentioned about me by members of the ICC, I have never defended myself from such accusations in the past and neither will I do so now. What defense could there possibly be for such degraded behavior on my part? There is none. It is only due to the extreme mercy of some extraordinary Vaishnavas that I was able to return to Srila Prabhuapda's service which is not defined by or limited to being a GBC member. I am therefore quite capable to accept doing whatever would be in the best interest of Srila Prabhupada's mission, as to be determined.
My head at your feet, your servant,
Malati devi dasi
My head at your feet, your servant,
Malati devi dasi
[PADA: OK so Malati "returned back" to serve the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children guru process, and she says that is "returning back" to the service of Krishna and Srila Prabhupada. Umm nope, serving an illicit sex messiah's program is not serving Krishna. Period! Hate to say it but, it is serving Satan. Now she has to "apologize" to the same people who force little children to worship pedophiles as their messiahs.
Some ex-gurukulis told me that the GBC are the managers of an "anal reconstructive surgery for boys epidemic" -- and Malati thinks this program is -- "serving God." Which God would that be? Beelzebub, God of Hades?
My apologies! I am soooo sorry! Yes as we all know, you guys are jack booting the worship of pedophiles down the throats of our society's little kids. So sorry I disturbed your wonderful anal reconstructive surgery for boys -- suicides of victims --- messiah's from heaven program! I will help you find some more kids to worship your wonderful child molesting messiah's project and your Royal Highnesses. I am here to help!
Guess what? If you are a co-GBC with this lot, you share in their karma. Yamaraja Maharaja has already taken notes on all this. Let us see, Malati "came back to serve" -- their anal reconstructive surgery epidemic and debauchee messiah's sampradaya. Write that down! We don't want her to be confused when she gets to Yama loka, we want to have all of her statements on hand. Hee hee. ys pd]
Prithu Putra and Malati:
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JG DASA: TRANSLATION There is nothing more sinful than untruthfulness. Because of this, Mother Earth once said, “I can bear any heavy thing except a person who is a liar.”
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On the surface of the Earth there are many great mountains and oceans that are very heavy, and Mother Earth has no difficulty carrying them. But she feels very much overburdened when she carries even one person who is a liar. It is said that in Kali-yuga lying is a common affair: māyaiva vyāvahārike (Bhāg. 12.2.3). Even in the most common dealings, people are accustomed to speaking so many lies. No one is free from the sinful reactions of speaking lies. Under the circumstances, one can just imagine how this has overburdened the Earth, and indeed the entire universe.
LD: Have to say ... mighty impressed with them. Decades after forcing worship of pedophiles ... as their gurus ... now!, finally going to make "a committee" ... to see if their pedophile guru worship plan is ... a good thing. Or maybe not?
ReplyDeleteOr ... who knows for sure? Pedophile guru worship might be a good thing ... or maybe not ... we need to form a committee to discuss that. It seems to me like ... all these committees ... never figure out anything useful for them?
We need another committee ... it is a stalling technique. They already know their pedophile guru worship ruins children and ruins ISKCON. They are simply stalling for time ... so they can load up their bank accounts? Why do they need to make another committee ... to decide if their pedophile guru worship plan is ... a good or bad thing?
Now! Everyone has to spend thousands of dollars flying to Mayapur to discuss ... if pedophile gurus are bona fide or not? It is simply another exploiting the society's money scam. Then ... they can beg their people to donate for their flying expense. We need to fly around the world for our pedophile guru discussion committee. Why does anyone still give them two cents? I cannot fathom why. What a waste of money ... a pedophile guru discussion committee ... that really has to "take the cake" ... as the worst cause for making a committee ever. More of Krishna's money down the toilet. And I thought they could not go any lower ... my bad!
M Dasi: No ... I am not surprised. Not a bit. Pedophiles are sometimes Krishna's gurus? Or not? We cannot say for sure. Who can say with certainty? We have not been able to decide ... since 1977. Not a problem!
ReplyDeleteWe are NOW going to finally make the "Mayapur Pedophile Krishna Guru Research Committee" (MPKGRC) to help the SAC, Mayapur GBC Incorporated, ICC, NA GBC, ECC, CPO, ICPO -- and alphabet soup of endless committees. We will finally investigate! And don't worry ... we will publish the results in 2080 ... because we will all be dead by then! Hah! See ya later suckers! This is all bluff. They are never going to declare that their pedophiles have NEVER been gurus. Or what?
That would be something like ... honesty ... and they have none. We are going to make another committee. They say that ... every time ... and meanwhile ... their pedophile guru program continues. It is all stalling tactic. Nothing more ... cheaters and the cheated. They want pedophiles to be their "gurus" the whole time ... and want to hold onto them now ... nothing has changed ... except their bluffing is getting worse. How come they do not know pedophiles are not God's successors EVER ... and they need to make a committee to decide? What is wrong with these jokers? Even the atheists will not say pedophiles are God's successors ... because they have some class and dignity. Now Malati has to lick their feet ... to get back into the pedophile's guru's committee's good graces? What a dog!
LW: First, Malati was worshiping Satan with Prithu Putra. Then she went to the GBC ... to worship them. But Satan worshipers are not known to have ... pedophile worshiping schools. Means ... she has gone downhill ... from worshiping Satan ... to worshiping of pedophile gurus. She is in far worse condition. Way worse!
ReplyDeleteSatan worshipers are often really nice people. Pedophile worshipers are never nice people. She has gone from bad ... to worse. Way worse! Give me a forced choice ... having my kids taken care of by the Satan worshiper church ... or the Malati pedophile guru worshipers ... Satan wins. Every time. Give me some old time Satan worshipers ... over these people ... and that about says all we need to know.
She left Satan for something far worse. I know ... that is not an easy thing to accomplish! The amazing thing is ... she is proud she left Satan and went to something worse than Satan. That is the nature of illusion. We are going backward thinking it is going forward ... when we are in illusion. These people treat children worse than people treat their dogs. Satanic people give their kids nice facility ... because they are not nearly as evil as these Malati people. The Satan people understand ... this child belongs to Satan ... so we have to care for it. The Malati people treated their children like garbage ... because they are worse than Satan. She went downhill.
Bhakta Jojo: No one should be complaining! We need Bhakti Chaitanya swami's input ... more than ever right now. He seems to say ... he is going to head up the GBC's pedophile "Krishna's guru" research committee. And I say ... long overdue.
ReplyDeleteLet us see what he comes up with. Are pedophile gurus bona fide as Krishna's gurus ... or not? Finally! Someone is going to do their research on this topic. Let us wait to see who else is going to be on his ... pedophile "Krishna's guru" research committee. And let us see what he actually proposes.
I think we should all encourage him. Maybe his next committee topic should be: are the enablers and supporters of pedophile "Krishna gurus" bona fide also? His pedophile guru research committee is something we should all be happy about!
They are finally going to resolve if their pedophile gurus are bona fide as "Krishna's gurus" ... or not. This is really a great step forward ... although ... they should have had a meeting about it in 1978. Better late than never. Let us all help move this along. I look forward to seeing how their committee moves ahead ... what are the main topics ... who is going to be quoted as their authority ... all that. We should not discourage his committee idea right away ... I say ... let us wait and see how it goes.
As for Malati? She was promoting worshiping Satan. Then GBC made her their authorized authority. I don't see how they did not know ... this is going to be a problem issue ... later on? What were they thinking?
PADA: Thanks for your question L Dasi. Yes, I think that you are right -- even if the GBC now declares "pedophiles are not -- were not --- and could not have been -- Krishna's guru successors" -- the damage has already been done to many / most folks already, which includes the public perception image.
ReplyDeleteMost of the original 1970s Prabhupada devotees are gone. Many / most are already dead. And those who remain alive would not come back to ISKCON no matter what the GBC says, because they do not trust the GBC, and they probably never will under any circumstance.
And many / most of the second generation of gurukulis are gone too. Someone posted a photo of a group of maybe 30 of them, and maybe two of that group are participating now. The rest are all gone. They too would likely never come back no matter what -- because they also will never trust the GBC.
Meanwhile their whole effort since 1978 has basically been: to establish their main idea -- that illicit sex deviants, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, porno swamis, criminals and / or sexual predators etc. are -- were -- or could have been -- part of Krishna's guru succession. And then the original wave of deviants voted in the next wave -- OK Lokanath and Bhakti Chaitanya swami. That has been the main underlying foundation of their whole program the whole time. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Just look at the Lokanath fan club, they don't want to remove their pedophile worship process from ISKCON because "their people will lose faith." OK that means -- they are going to lose donations $$$ This is now basically all about $$$ money and not integrity and honesty. Lokanath's program is a cash cow for their society, and they want to keep the cash flowing in. Sulochana said: They don't care if their people are worshiping a bucket of dog manure, as long as it produces money for them.
So now we are down to, can Bhakti Chaitanya swami turn this around by declaring -- after all this time since 1978 -- that as of 2021 -- ISKCON no longer promotes that pedophiles are -- were -- or could have been -- Krishna's guru successors -- then how many actual people in ISKCON would accept that? You are right, hardly any of them would because they have been trained all this time to worship their pedophile guru lineage, and they have invested in it. So I agree, they are between a rock and a hard place. If they now declare that pedophiles are not -- were not -- and could not have been -- Krishna's successors and gurus, they will be undercutting the whole program since 1978. How will that work?
I have some fried friends in S. Africa who would like to expose these people by going to the government and media. That is what the GBC are driving people to think of doing. And that is because they keep insisting that their pedophile pals -- are -- were -- or could have been -- Krishna's guru successors -- and thus more and more and more people are fed up with this nonsense. So we have to see how this all plays out. Overall -- you are right -- most of the damage has already been done. Anything they do now is like trying to glue together broken China cups and plates -- after driving their army tank through the China shop. It is going to be a hard job to repair -- anything -- at this stage. Anyway, let us see how all this plays out. The fact that they cannot even agree on whether or not pedophiles are part of a chain of messiahs from God -- or not --- shows us -- their empire is imploding and collapsing. No religion can stand when it cannot even make a basic declaration on whether pedophiles are their messiahs --- or not. It is going to continue to implode IMHO. ys pd