ISKCON's Confused Ex-Gurukulis

 PADA: Ran into an ex-ISKCON gurukula student who gave me some very baffling arguments about the position of Krishna and His successor gurus.

This ex-student claims that GBC's gurus like Lokanath Swami are NOT being worshiped as pure devotees. And yet, his followers are accepting that Lokanath Swami is: "a parampara member, Krishna's guru successor, a diksha guru" (who can absorb sins like Jesus). And in sum -- he is qualified to be worshiped as good as Vyasadeva -- by having annual Vyasapuja festivals. 

And that is because -- he is not a pure devotee? Or Jesus is not a pure devotee? Or Vyasadeva is not a pure devotee?

https://lokanathswami.com/70th-vyaspuja-festival/

Sorry, the GBC is saying Lokanath Swami is pure devotee guru, because he is worshiped as an equal to Srila Vyasadeva. 

*** This ex-student claims that since Lokanath swami molested a young girl some years ago, he was not doing that serious of a crime because "he did not penetrate" the victim. What? Now we are down to: Lokanath Swami is Krishna's guru successor, he is also a child molester, but he is "not that bad" of a molester? 

Oh yea, I almost forgot! 

Now we have: really good, somewhat good, and in this case "not too bad" successors to God. And this is opposed to "really rotten" successors to God? So he should be allowed to continue being worshiped as good as God, because -- he could be a lot worse than he is already? Yep, let us give him a pass on being worshiped as good as God -- despite he is not -- because he is "not too bad" of a successor to God. 

We have some old bananas for sale here, some are "pretty good and only have a few rotten black spots," some are "only 50% rotten," while others are "totally rotten." But none of them are pure and pristine? OK, and who would buy from such a supplier?

Then this ex-gurukuli student says, PADA is also "acting as a guru" because we are preaching, and so is Lokanath. What? OK, except we are preaching differently. PADA is saying gurus are not, were not, and could not have been deviants, sexual predators, child molesters and criminals etc. Whereas the Lokanath Swami guru program contains "illicit sex with men, women and children" in their alleged guru successors to God "guru chain." Did we forget to mention?, the Lokanath Swami guru program also bans, beats, molests, sues and -- sometimes kills -- Vaishnavas?

Nor is PADA's editor claiming to be able to absorb sins like Jesus and so on and so forth. Sorry, although we are both preaching, he is not preaching what we are -- and vice versa. 

Then this ex-student says that the current drive to remove Lokanath Swami from a post of authority is "a wicked witch hunt, trying to revive past misdeeds." Sorry, his past misdeeds were never properly accounted for and resolved. Apart from the fact that -- acharyas and gurus -- do not have to atone for past severe misdeeds, because they do not commit severe misdeeds. 

OK in the end, this person is totally baffled about "Who is God" and thus "Who is God's guru successor." He is actually clueless. Should we be upset with this person? 

Well nope, he is a victim. He is just repeating what he has heard as he grew up from many ISKCON parents, ISKCON elders, and assorted leaders etc. That is what they have been saying for years. He had all this crammed down his throat for decades together, and he has taken their bait. 

Yep, God's successor gurus are perhaps -- pretty good, not too good, somewhat rotten, 50% rotten, and sometimes -- very rotten. Why? Because the gurus are the successors to God. A God Who is therefore also sometimes -- somewhat good, somewhat rotten, and sometimes -- very rotten. So that means they have taken God and guru to the material plane. Something that is sometimes good and sometimes rotten is material, it has no connected to "Who is God" and "Who is His successor." 

So this problem has been caused and created combinedly by many of the parents, elders and leaders of ISKCON, and he is merely the symptom and not the cause. Yes, anyone and everyone else can ALSO be worshiped as God's guru successor -- if they are -- "not too bad." And that includes being a child molester? How bad do they have to be before being excluded from the "God's successor" group? 

So all of this is simply insulting God every day. 

God has fools, rascals, sexual predators, pedophiles, skirt chasing drunks, machine gun swamis, drug addicted football watching clowns, and in sum -- illicit sex with men, women and children debauchees, as "successors in His guru chain." Ok -- NOT REALLY. This is all illusion, and you folks are making the illusion for the conditioned souls WORSE and not better. And you folks are SEVERELY misguiding your own children, never mind others. ys pd