[PADA: Thanks D Dasi for your question about which "Hare Krishna Community" is which. And can we trust any? It is a little hard for people to keep track of all the off-shoots and spin off entities from ISKCON, especially -- what is their siddhanta, what are their names etc. Even official ISKCON itself is spinning itself off into different charity names and various name brands -- mainly to avoid paying lawsuits and so on and so forth. Then we have the Sridhara / Narayan Maharaja's / Gaudiya Matha's spin offs etc.
As far as I know, the above (ISKCON friendly) people and the HKC Jaipur people are the main groups using the title "Hare Krishna Community" (HKC). If there are other Hare Krishna Community programs, we'd like to know who they are.
Anyway! First of all, the above HKC advertises people like "His Divine Grace Srila Bhakti Tirtha swami Krishnapada." However, we do not think any of us neophytes should be using these types of titles, what to speak of "I am equal to Krishna's padas (lotus feet)."
No, you are not equal to Krishna's feet, especially if you participate in the GBC's guru process. "Yes, as a matter of fact, my padas (feet) and Krishna's padas are the same in quality." Wow, how humble is that!
Bhakti Tirtha swami has been a big supporter of the GBC's guru process, and particularly the New Vrndavan, Kirtanananda, Radhanath swami program -- and the whole dubious crew from there. So we have to ask ourselves -- how good is his discrimination -- from square one. Did he not know there was a lot of bad things going on at New Vrndavana?
Did he not know the GBC gurus have been falling down left, right and center, if not orchestrating banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and even assassinations of Krishna devotees -- around their empire? We think he must have known all this was going on, and more, because he was associated with the big players.
The first disciple of Srila Prabhupada in UK was Kulashekara das, who was beaten mercilessly by a Bhakti Tirtha follower in DC, for his having doubts that the GBC's gurus are actually pure devotees. He was in the hospital in severe pain with many bruises and broken bones, and he never fully recovered. He lived a life of pain and suffering subsequently, and had to take a lot of pain medications for decades.
He was then nearly homeless for many years, but fortunately he was taken in by some merciful devotees just a short time before he passed away. Otherwise he might have died with literally no one and nothing. That in sum is how the ISKCON society treats its martyrs -- those who are not only pioneers in ISKCON, but who are then beaten up later on by preaching that bogus people cannot be gurus.
Notice -- Kulashekara told me he was considered more or less an unwanted pariah after that incident. He told me that because he questions the GBC's guru program -- "I am a permanently marked man, they don't want me around." So Bhakti Tirtha was one of the vicious "enforcers" of -- "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of sexual predators and pedophiles as God's successors, messiahs and gurus program." And because he was one of the GBC's enforcers, he is rewarded as a glorious person, while people like Kulashekara are punished and pushed aside.
Notice that in almost all of ISKCON, the oppressors are often glorified as saints. They have all sorts of annual celebrations and memorial ceremonies, but the oppressed like Kulashekara are not even given any public mention -- much less memorial celebration ceremonies. The victims are in sum "the tossed out and forgotten."
Actually Kulashekara is among of the first wave of ISKCON martyrs. He was beaten and maybe died prematurely in pain -- fighting against the molester messiahs project. And that is why it is said -- a society that neglects its martyrs, forgets its own history, and is thus doomed to collapse due to forgetting its own historical origins. And worse, a society that worships the oppressors who created its martyrs is even more destined to be condemned and doomed.
Then we have the Hladini situation. Bhakti Tirtha sent her into a known civil war zone, knowing it was extremely dangerous. And she was hacked to death, but her female associate survived. And she told us that Bhakti Tirtha was having an affair with Hladini, and she wanted him to open up the relationship to the public, so he got rid of her intentionally to cover up the affair. Another martyr? And who knows how many more?
Bhakti Vikas swami and others ALSO preached against Bhakti Tritha's tinfoil hat crazy rants about: Egyptian Gods, the lost continent of Mu, subterranean demons, aliens taking human form, and so on and so forth. OK, the GBC knew he had a tendency to fly off the reservation in his lectures and wander into speculation land. Anyway, the list of his problems could do on here, but he was not qualified to be worship as an acharya and we think the above Hare Krishna Community is making a mistake advertising him.
The other "Hare Krishna Community" is Dayalu Nitai's in Jaipur, and one of my associates said that the only reason these guys are famous or known at all, is because they wanted to "take down PADA. And have PADA removed from the internet"! Do they make a petition to take down and remove the GBC's guru program off the internet? Well nope! The molester messiah's program is a keeper!
And thus our exchanges exposed them on PADA's radar and put them on the map. First of all, we were advertising them because they claimed to be following the ritvik system. Then out of the blue, their "senior advisor" Prahlad das (Paul Coats UK) started sending me death threats, evidently from their location. OK that is criminal and illegal right out of the gate. Why are they harboring and facilitating criminals there?
Prahlad fully admits he is working hand in glove with goondas from the pedophile messiahs club, and he says he wants to help his pedophile messiah's club goonda pals to do violence to me. Why is HKC Jaipur's "senior man" working hand in glove with the pedophile messiah's club goondas in the first place? Yep, it is always the same problem for me, the pedophile messiah's lovers club folks -- are always after me.
Even the police told me that, I have no other enemies -- other than the GBC folks aka the pedophile messiah lovers club guys. The police told me they can see clearly -- no one else ON EARTH wants to kill you -- ok except for these pedophile messiah lover's club folks. So they not only worship pedophiles as their messiahs, they defend their worship of pedophiles with violence. What could go wrong here? Then these guys make pretend they do not know why children are getting molested left, right and center.
I could have reported them to the police and FBI for making "international terrorist threats," but I am a nice guy after all and decided to let them skate. These HKC people are not too bright really. I ALREADY got stacks of death threats filed at the police station -- yep already -- adding another one to the pile -- changes nothing. Ever!
Then these guys made a video with Radhanath's cheer leader Bhakta das. And they also started quoting GBC's guru groupie and Bhavananda's hand maiden Hari Sauri -- as their "shiksha" authority. And they actually insisted I promote their video of GBC guru enablers and apologists. And they were infuriated I would not join them in advertising for the cheer leaders of the GBC's pedophile lover's club guru process. OK so when they said they are ritviks, they lied, it is really that simple.
And then their pal Bhakta Peter says he does not think their promoting the cheer leaders and enablers of a pedophile sex worship program -- that mass molests children -- is "a big problem." OK what is "a big problem" for these guys? Right, the "big problem" is that some people are protesting their pedophile guru process.
So we have tried to patch things up with them by making a peace proposal, but they are evidently not interested. In any case, they are a small program and they also burnt out some of my associates in India -- for much of the same reason, they behave like imperious tyrants with various other devotees. In sum, we cannot recommend either of these groups. Nice title, but where is the substance? ys pd
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LD: They are all birds of a feather. How many times devotees told me? "This is not a big problem prabhu. That is not a big problem either. And you are a big offensive rascal for mentioning these problems." So HKC Jaipur and Prahlad and Bhakta Peter think ... children getting stuffed up the rear ... some committing suicide ... so what? It is not a big problem. Not a big problem ... for them. Or the GBC people?
ReplyDeleteBecause! They are with the child stuffing group. Nothing is a big problem for them ... except those of us ... who are not with them. I think someone said these people identify with sexual predators ... and want to protect them ... because they are in sympathy. Birds ... sitting on the same fence. Attacking the sexual predator brethren is an attack on them ... because they are all on the same team. Not really complicated. They defend pedophiles ... and other criminals ... because they are birds of the same branch. Or why else? The broke off branch of the Caitanya tree. They don't explain ... because there is nothing to explain ... we are on to them.
Bhakta das? Should not be promoted as a their authority. He hangs out in Bangkok for a reason ... that is why he defends his Bangkok brothers like Prabhavishnu. Birds of a feather.
We should not have to dance on eggshells ... when dealing with their bogus brotherhood. Call them out for what they really are ... a pedophile worship cult and - or - birds of the same feather ... who assist. "This is not a big problem." It is what molesting cults say ... all day long. I am glad more people are waking up to them. We would not want ANY more Krishna's kids to have to deal with this group ... EVER again. Ever. We need to smoke them out as soon as possible. And that is why they want to say we are "offenders" ... so they can get us removed ... or killed. They need to be stopped.