Lerma Aja's "Factionless" Movement Idea

PADA: OK this person started out being somewhat friendly, but gradually started revealing their real idea, we should make "a new movement" based solely on varnasrama, and without any bogus "factions." OK sign me up, who wants to be part of all these bogus factions?

Oh oh! One of the first "factions" that needs to be eliminated is -- the ritviks faction. Goody. So what "other factions" are going to be running the place? The GBC faction, Gaudiya Matha faction, who knows -- maybe the worshipers of Mother Amma faction? No one knows? What form of acharya worship should be established in this new community? How will we enforce that the acharya's worship is standardized without exceptions (allowing the worship of other acharyas) in this new community?  

Sorry, all the varnas and ashramas are subordinated to the system of -- first of all, standardized worship of the acharya and Krishna. So we need to establish first: who is the acharya, how will his worship be established, and how will his system of worship of Krishna be upheld -- i.e. enforced -- by the leaders and authorities in the new community? 

And which books are going to be standard? Are we going to have Srila Prabhupada's books, and Gaudiya Matha books, and who knows what else? 

And -- if there is no structure -- based on "no factions" won't we have a sort of "free for all" hodge podge, like they already have in India, or Alachua and other places where multiple acharyas and systems of worship, or independent processes, are going on simultaneously. And if we are going to have a free for all, why not include the ritviks? We are going to make a factionless program, that attacks all the other factions? Never going to work.  

Even in the Christian society, first of all -- they establish who is the acharya, how will the acharya be worshiped, how will the managers of the church uphold the teachings of the acharya etc., then the other systems and functions of the society are established after that. So it does not seem this person has thought through the ramifications of a "factionless" society. 

Srila Prabhupada does not participate or cooperate with other programs, including the self appointed gurus in his own Gaudiya Matha. Are we saying he was making a faction against these other groups?  

Then, we finally get to the real root issue here. Lerha Aja is complaining that PADA is instigating "litigations" by helping various court cases, including the child molesting and book changes court cases. And we are wrong to have been helping law enforcement, by acting as a police and FBI advisor on various police raids, arrests, illegal drug and gun sales programs run by "the devotees" etc. And of course we should not be acting as an eye witness helping various expose magazine articles, books, other media articles, various expose TV shows and so forth.

OK let us back up here for a second. We are going to have varnasrama, which means we will have a very high level of oversight law enforcement -- starting with the saintly leaders being watch dogs over criminal activity. And we will then have many others acting as law enforcing agents for these leaders -- sort of like the street beat police. What happens if no such system actually functions in ISKCON? Should we have no checks and balances for criminal behavior?

Evidently, yes -- we should unleash the flood gates and allow criminal activity. Ok next question, we should allow crimes "without using litigation" -- even when children are being treated criminally? OK that is when Lerha Aja had to quit the conversation and got really angry with PADA editor. Sorry! There is no good excuse to allow crimes to be committed upon children, even if we have to beg the mundane police and courts for help. And people actually get into a pinch when they are forced to answer.

Same problem we have had with GBC ilk, Gaudiya Math ilk, and of course Naranarayan Visvakarma and his disciples like Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad das / HKC Jaipur etc. Why should we stop child molesting and perhaps even suicides of the victims? 

Rather, let us make ISKCON a haven for child molesting. We should allow crimes against children to continue, because otherwise we have to engage in "litigation" -- which is forbidden by these folks. OK, so there is no internal law enforcement process, there is no external law enforcement process, so then we have a society where banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating devotees becomes unleashed. And then we have: unrestricted book changers; pedophiles being buried in samadhis; illicit sex with men, women and children acharya programs, and all the rest of it.

That is the result of not enforcing laws ourselves, or working hand in glove with mundane law enforcement to get them to lend a hand. It becomes a haven for bad actors, and bad apa-siddhanta -- for example that acharyas (are or) can become debauchees and criminals. So we want to have a factionless society, where even getting justice for crimes is considered as a bogus faction. Notice that we could exchange "faction-less" for "law-less" in the idea supported by various devotees.

Then we make pretend we wonder how ISKCON becomes infested with criminals and criminal behaviors? Ummm, it is self evident how that happens, crooks who have an enabling crew of apologists, cheer leaders, cover ups, and in sum "friends in high places" will flourish while the hapless citizens are victimized. Anyway, I don't think I will hear from this person again. When confronted with the results of their idea, they have to decamp and run away. Happens all the time. ys pd     

 And here is yet another person who is a victim of their idea and process: