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[PADA: Prahladananda Swami is another person who seems to be preaching in the former Soviet states -- and other far flung locations -- and no so much in the West. Thus he avoids the aware and intelligent folks in the West who have rejected the GBC guru system. One GBC guru says he never visits the USA "to avoid the angry mobs." Well yes, people are angry that you folks destroyed Srila Prahbupada's 10,000 years planned mission, so a few of you guys could sit on big seats for a decade or so, a very short time.
Prahladananda Swami complains that most of the GBC guru folks are telling everyone to get vaccinated -- because they are getting big donations from life members who are working in a field where vaccines are being promoted. So the GBC gurus have to also promote the vaccines to appease their donors. OK, so the guru is a person who has to alter his preaching -- and ISKCON's health care policy -- and recommend things that might even be harmful (at least according to Prahladananda) to pacify donors? What kind of gurus are these?
Meanwhile my medical tech neighbors have got the vaccine, and according to them, fewer medical staff are now getting severely ill while working in their hospital. So that could mean, the devotees as a group should not be speculating on the whole vaccine process at the present time, it is over our levels of expertise. Has Prahladananda asked these people what is their opinion? Evidently, nope. So he is wading into the field to give an opinion, just like the other leaders are doing.
Meanwhile! A devotee is begging to find the same blood type for another devotee who is on life support to get a blood transfusion, this illness is not a joke. I am not personally recommending either getting or not getting the vaccine. People have to look at all the evidence, and their personal situations, and make their own decisions.
For example, some devotees will have to get the vaccine to keep their jobs, since USA companies can demand their workers show proof they have it -- to stay employed. All kinds of factors will have to be weighed here -- for each individual. I do not think it is helping if some devotees will need to be vaccinated to keep their jobs, and then telling them -- not to bother having a job.
Who is going to maintain these persons if they refuse to be employed? OK no one, so it is better not to meddle with their lives. We tell them not to bother having a job, but we do not give them an alternate support system. What good is that for these folks? It is always the same problem, drop your economic base, but we are not going to fill in the gap to support you.
Meanwhile, the main issue is: how can Prahladananda swami support the GBC's guru process, knowing they are making all sorts of compromises with Sridhara Maharaja, Narayan Maharaja, the babajis, the Hindu process, and of course -- changing health policies -- to appease rich donors? How are these people gurus? And if they are gurus, how can Prahladananda be the chastising advisor to the gurus? The guru is the sum total of the demigods, therefore, he needs to be chastised by Prahladananda?
Prahladananda says that the GBC's zonal gurus caused lots of confusion and lots of problems. Wow, so we should all worship the guru, because he is the source of confusion and all sorts of problems. Why would anyone want to participate in a religion where the guru is the source of grief, confusion, and problems? The Vedas say we should worship the guru to free ourselves from problems, and Prahladananda reverses the whole process, and says we should worship the guru -- who is the SOURCE of GENERATING all sorts of problems.
So the guru is Krishna's successor, and thereby we should expect confusion and problems by worship of God's successor. This is a really bad advert for God and guru. The closer we get to God, and we become gurus, the more we will be confused trouble makers, ok and who wants to sign up for such a process?
Then he says the Zonal Gurus caused most of the problems. Fine except the gurus still have zones. Jayapataka's zone is Bengal and everyone knows that even now. They had zones all along and they still have zones. Then he admits, the Zonal Guru system has only partially dismantled. OK so you guys still have Zonal Gurus, nothing substantial has changed.
In any case, the real root issue is, the GBC's are not gurus. They are causing confusion, and problems, and they even admit to that. So that means, they are not, were not, and could not have been gurus. Why does Prahladananda still say they are gurus, when they are not behaving as gurus by anyone's calculation, including -- their own calculation? The good news is, more and more of them are breaking away and attacking the main group. That means their system is dissolving more and more into teeny independent infighting camps, so it is self destructing on its own.
Prahladananda is in charge of the guru (advisory) services committee, so he thinks he is the advisor to God's messiahs. How arrogant is that? God makes gurus, God dictates to the gurus, but God is a screw up, so I have to correct the gurus because God is giving His gurus bad dictations. I am more intelligent -- than God? Hee hee!
What a jerk! Prahladananda thinks God is a bogus person and a fool who gives bad dictations -- and thus Prahladananda is better than God because he can fix God's bogus dictations. No wonder these people go to the lowest regions of the universe when their foolish life ends. Yes I am so humble, I have to correct God's idiotic dictations. Really humble! Sorry, God is not an idiot, He gives good dictations -- to actual gurus. He does not give good dictation -- to arrogant fools who think they are His successors artificially. ys pd
L.A.D: Many devotes in iskcon are being mislead. They are not aware of how badly they are being mislead and where it will lead them. I wouldn't take comfort in feeling safe in one room on the Titanic while the ship is sinking due to various offenses to Srila Prabhupada. Even the Iskcon guru like Bhakti Vikas Swami will readily confirm that this is the case. Iskcon is a stone boat cruise line that has hit the iceberg. Time to seriously consider your position on that ship.
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M Dasi: I am Krishna's servant and not maya's. That is why I tell all the people of the world that Krishna's gurus are ... insane sex fiends and fools! Because ... that is how Krishna dictates ... to His gurus. That makes Krishna also an insane fool. It amazes me ... how these people get up every day ... and ask themselves "how can I insult Krishna today"? Again!
ReplyDeleteYeah! Lets tell people Krishna is an insane fool ... because ... the people Krishna dictates to are also insane fools. They make pretend they do not know why there are so many problems. They are the problem themselves.
Some devotees are working with very elderly people. They had to either get the vaccine ... or sign a paper that the facility is not responsible ... for their medical bills. The medical bills can go over $100,000. Is Prahladananda going to pay their medical bills ... if they do not get the vaccine? He does not even mention this. So he wants us to take risk ... because he has all his expenses paid by ISKCON ... he does not have to worry about his medical bills. Amazing cheating going on.
I may get stuck with $100,000 expense ... they stick it to Krishna for their expense. Liars and cheaters! And now he says ... the dictation from Krishna the guru is getting ... is being diverted ... and influenced by wealthy donors. What happens now ... when Krishna has to bow down to wealthy donors and listen to them? These people are simply attacking Krishna every breath they take. The guru gets dictation from Krishna ... and now Krishna has to step aside and let the wealthy donors dictate instead. They just cannot admit .. this has nothing to do with guru ... it is all cheating. No surprise most of them are now silent ... every time they speak ... they show what fools they are.
LD: How can we say Krishna's gurus are the cause of suffering ... and problems? What kind of religion says that? God's pure devotee guru representatives ... create suffering, misery ... and problems? That is the way to turn people AWAY from worship of Krishna ... telling them worship of Krishna's guru ... is the cause of suffering, confusion and problems.
ReplyDeleteWorship the guru of Krishna ... so we can be confused, suffer, and be in the middle of a ton of problems. And go to hell. Who wants to join that religion? No one ... with any sanity. That is why their temples are empty. They want people to think worship of God is a cause of pain and suffering. They are worse than atheists ... making worship of God the same as going to suffering hell. Satsvarupa was always saying he has headaches ... because worship of Krishna makes me sick! And they make him their spokesman ... and still sell his books at our temple here ... knowing he is saying pure gurus are simply getting migraines all the time ... because thinking of Krishna is a source of pain and suffering. That is what they preached the whole time ... worship of Krishna is a source of confusion and pain. No wonder they have to split up and are fighting now, they are having a hard time selling that garbage anymore.
M.A. Trying to be respectful as possible. Doesn't Prahladananda look every day ... more like Voldemort from Harry Potter? He is certainly from a lower planet ... that is my conclusion. Isn't that why he says Krishna's successor gurus are a source of trouble? I say yes! He must hate Krishna's successors ... like any good asura would. He is one of their gurus ... should be given the title: Voldemort-pada.
ReplyDeleteLet us face it ... these guys could never get an actual real job and work like the rest of us ... in the real world. They are siphoning from ISKCON because ... it is the only way they know how to survive ... to drive us out so they can exploit the little bits of the remains of ISKCON. They are simply a burden on the earth ... and a burden for ISKCON. And a burden for us. He looks about as blissful as a dead rat ... again with all due respect.