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PADA: Thanks Bhakta J J for your question about "why are bogus ISKCON NGO's (charities) allowed -- at all -- in India? And "should we not join forces with the many government agencies there -- to have ISKCON and / or their off shoots investigated, since the government might help us with an ISKCON NGO investigation"?
That is a good question, and I think you should begin by first obtaining as many copies of the official NGO corporate documents of various ISKCON projects / spin offs / so-called Eco-farms etc. there, as much as possible. However even if you just get one or two -- that would suffice, because they are all similar.
Yes, you should probably focus on Mayapur first. Then you could make a list of all the centers who follow Mayapur. Some of these charities might claim to be not part of ISKCON, but we could connect them since their names are found in GBC reports and other associated internal ISKCON documents. Yes, I can help with that.
I think we could easily find they are not following their stated legally submitted aim, object and purpose. For example:
(A) Teaching little children in India that "Krishna's guru successors" are often debauchees caught "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children" is probably not found as one of the legal aims and stated purposes of any of their corporations there.
Neither is:
(B) Burying pedophiles in samadhis.
(C) Burying pornography swamis in samadhis.
(D) Saying that is it common for Krishna's acharyas to fall down into: sexual predator behaviors; drinking Vodka; smoking pot; offering LSD to the shalagram; orchestrating mass child molesting; and orchestrating murders of dissenters etc.
(E) I think you make a good point -- ISKCON in India is suing people by spending perhaps $20,000,000 -- to criminalize and prohibit -- the worship of the actual acharya of ISKCON Srila Prabhupada. There is a program afoot there to actually make it a crime to worship the bona fide acharya -- and not to worship their pedophile messiah's club.
So yes, you are right. They want to terrorize innocent people with giant lawsuits -- should they decide to worship the actual acharya Srila Prabhupada, and not worship their illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's program. I think we should simply submit that they wanted everyone to worship their "pedophiles as acharyas process," which resulted in a $400,000,000 mass child molesting lawsuit -- to which they pleaded "no contest."
Then, the leaders of that process have mostly fled to India to avoid scrutiny and responsibility, and to start bogus charities there. And yes, I see no reason why people like Bhakti Vikas swami (and / or his legal structure there) should not be included in your investigation. He is one of the original hand maidens of the founder fathers of the pedophile messiah's program. He is still saying we are bogus because we want to worship the factual acharya and not his sexual predator / anus sex epidemic / "guru chain" from the lowest regions of the universe.
Yes, I think you are right, Jagat Guru swami got into some legal trouble there perhaps for that very reason, he was evidently not following the stated purpose of his organization. And other organizations are getting busted all the time there, why not these guys? You may be onto something. I think the agencies themselves have investigators and etc. so they can perhaps do some of the leg work for us.
Anyway yes, I will help you with any form of investigation. If you can send their legal papers to me -- I can analyze them myself and send you back my comments and notes. Or I can read the documents out loud with comments and make an audio file to send you. I think you are right, the people who want to criminalize worship of the real acharya, and make it "legal" to worship their sexual predator and child molesting guru program, should be noted by the government and try to get them involved. Agreed.
Yes, get the names of some of the NGO team investigators and / or their secretaries so I can send things to them to verify our claims. Good idea.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
Bhakti Vikas follower: Next time you record those conversations and post here along with the documents that state, "Bhakti Vikasa Maharaj saying, we should not worship Srila Prabhupada". Thank you for voicing your concern.
ReplyDeletePADA: Bhakti vikas swami says that the ritviks (the people who worship Srila Prabhupada) are bogus, I am amazed you never heard that. He has encouraged Jayapataka to sue the ritviks, I am not sure how a $20M lawsuit has gone unnoticed in India when we are all aware of it here? He has never explained why we have to sue people to stop them from worship of the acharya?
You do not know that BVKS has encouraged Jayapataka? And why should we waste $20M on lawsuits when so many devotees are suffering with little asset? Yes, they are suing people who worship Prabhupada and making worship of Prabhupada a crime, it is all over the INDIA public media that this lawsuit has been going on since 1997. I am amazed you never heard? This is one of the biggest GBC expenses every year, suing anyone who wants to worship the acharya, they are making acharya worship illegal and BVKS is one of the ring leaders of that process. (see photo of BVKS with Jayapataka). BVKS wants anyone who worships the acharya to go to jail, that is what they said -- let us put them in jail. They want to terrorize anyone who wants to worship the acharya with unlimited lawsuits. That is a fact and we can prove it easily. Of course, anyone who worships their sexual predator gurus process and places pedophiles in samadhi -- is not sued and harassed. ys pd
RE Call for ISKCON NGO Investigation in India (Bhakta JJ)
ReplyDeleteThey all go to India to open profitable temples because in the West they have destroyed Prabhupada's movement so badly that they can only run the temples as "Hindu Mandirs". And of course, with devotees from India. Western devotees in NA/EU make a laughingstock of themselves when wearing Vaishnava dress after all these scandals. That's the real reason why Hridayananda stopped it. People wouldn't stop their hysterical laughter when seeing him after 44 of his guru cohorts crashed left and right. So all this reminds of the colonial era where colonial rulers would manage India. Local people were considered as illiterate natives. So someone should call off these 3000 Western devotees presently hiding in India to return to the West and preach there as Prabhupada instructed.
[PADA: It is a business and it is now better to have a franchise in India because they ruined the name elsewhere. True dat! ys pd]