Gaura Govinda Maharaja folks update:
1) They are lamenting that Gaura Govinda Maharaja was banned from Singapore, Fiji and other places by the GBC. Evidently, he was banned from a lot of places because he was preaching that Srila Prabhupada is wrong to say we originated with Krishna. First of all, why are the Gaura Govinda Maharaja people lamenting that their guru was banned from the premises of GBC's pedophile messiah's guru cult? At all?
We should be thanking God for removing us from such evil company.
Oh boo hoo! Our guru was "voted in" at the recoronation of a homosexual guru who was having sex with taxi drivers -- in the holy dham. And now we are told we can no longer participate in the sex with taxi driver's guru parampara. Gimmee a kleenex already! Why would they lament being separated from that process? Why are they attached to being in that malefic sangha?
2) Gaura Govinda Maharaja was preaching that BR Sridhar Maharaja is correct, we jeeva souls originated in brahmajyoti. OK except, Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura says brahman is worse than hell, because at least in hell one MIGHT hear about Krishna, but in brahman, there is no mention of Krishna.
Gaura Govinda maharaja never explains why he keeps saying -- God places His children in hell, or actually worse than hell, as their original state? What kind of God tosses His kids into hell as their original state, at all? No reply? Of course the Church also teaches that some elite souls start in heaven with God, while the second tier lower class souls start -- without God. Why is Gaura Govinda Maharaja preaching Vatican jeeva tattva?
Wait a minute!
No, the spirit souls ALL start with God -- and they (misuse their independence) choose to leave God. And it is thus -- us jeeva's misuse of our independence -- and that is how we jeeva souls end up in hell! God is not the efficient cause of our being in hell, our misuse of independence is what causes us to be in hell.
Gaura Govinda Maharaja is blaming God for the fall of us jeevas. Yep, God places some souls in heaven with Him, and He places other souls into a place where they will fall into hell. God is the trouble maker for misplacing us, us renegades did not misplace ourselves? Handily shifts the blame for the fallen state ... onto God. God forgot to place us in heaven with Him, He goofed up big time! Really, that is their whole idea?
3) An ex-gurukuli (female) is writing to ask PADA, why has barely no one (perps or leaders) ever been prosecuted for all the child abuse that happened in ISKCON? Well because -- for starters, when the GBC wanted to get rid of the main founder father of the pedophile messiah's club (Tamal), people like Gaura Govinda Maharaja stood up at the GBC and protested, saying we need to KEEP Tamal. Lets DEFEND and KEEP the biggest founder father of the pedophile messiah's club! But why, she asks?
So at every step the molester infrastructure has had its apologists, cheer leaders, advocates, defenders and "shastric advisors" to keep that system in place. And a lot of the rank and file went along to get along.
4) Another devotee said he saw a photo of Bhakti Caru Swami nearing the time of his death, looking very worried if not terrified. "It looked to me like he was seeing the Yamaduttas." I don't know, but this devotee said the photo was suddenly removed before he had time to save it.
Why was Gaura Govinda Maharaja telling these neophytes they can absorb sins like Jesus, knowing that many / most of them are being overwhelmed -- in part -- due to taking on loads of karma. How can we love our brothers by telling them to take on boat loads of karma, knowing that it is causing them to get sick, fall down, or even die prematurely? OK no answer from the peanut gallery.
Yep, people who cannot even absolve their own sins have no business taking sins from hundreds of other people. All of these sins will remain with the false guru at the time of death, and he will have to pay heavily to eventually purify himself from all that baggage. This could take millions of years. Why would we want to wish this punishment on another person?
5) Then, in the middle of all this discussion, they cut off all communication with PADA. OK they could not answer any of these questions at all. So this is what we were telling the ex-kuli lady, there is no way to resolve these issues because we are dealing with cult people who simply support false programs, and even when their program crashes and burns, harming if not killing many victims, they won't admit -- they are on the wrong path?
In sum, it is better to be independent. Gaura Govinda Maharaja was always complaining he could not speak up because the GBC would clamp down on him. So leave, and be independent. That is very simple, but he had to stay because he was sold out to the corrupt corporate structure. And thus he died while going to their meeting, thinking there would be a different result this time. Nope!
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LD: The followers of Gaura Govinda Maharaja really cannot explain much. He said ... we need to worship the GBCs gurus ... to keep the institution going. Going where? Where do people go ... when they worship false gurus? They go to hell.
ReplyDeleteThat is what we see in the shastra. We need to keep people ... going to hell. Why? We need to have the ISKCON children worshiping falling people ... as their gurus. Why? Worship of the fallen ... makes one also fallen. How can someone go to Krishna worshiping the falling down? He cannot. Worship of the fallen and fake gurus takes one ... down to the lower regions ... says shastra.
I believe that is the real purpose of such as Gaura Govinda Maharaja. He would rather have people worship illicit sex ... than worship a pure devotee ... because then he can drag people back to where he comes from ... to the hellish planets. Prabhupada says the demons come up from the lower planets to drag people back down there ... and that is their first class method to get the ignorant mass back down there ... tell them to worship illicit sex gurus ... then they go down ... where all of them will go and regroup.
I believe this is a conspiracy to block people from getting to Krishna. Even in the old days ... in the Vedas ... the demons conspired ... to block Krishna. And they made it hard to be His servant. The demons made life hard for Lord Rama followers, Lord Krishna followers, Lord Chaitanya followers, and try to block people from being on the side of goodness. It is what they do ... all through history. We cannot worship the pure devotee ... it is the ritvik deviation. But we can worship illicit sex, porno swamis and criminals. Perfect prescription ... to take people to hell. And the leaders are then ... cursed to go to the most obnoxious regions. They create obnoxious conditions for us people on this planet ... so they have to go to the place where obnoxious is the standard. And I believe that is where all of them are going. Why do they want people to worship illicit sex and bogus gurus? Srila Prabhupada says people who worship these thing go to hell ... and that is why they want people to follow that path ... they come from there and want us to go back there with them. I see no other logical explanation.