Krishna Lover: PADA, tell us why Hanuman Croatia seems to have gone all silent? Have no new news from him in a month. Did he run out of material? What is the story? Has he started a new idea now? Not that I miss him too much! Some of his reporting is good, but he does not like the Prabhupadanugas, so that is bad. Looks like he is running out of steam.
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PADA:
1) Hanuman Croatia started out saying that ALL of the GBC gurus are bogus, ok except GBC gurus like Bhakti Vikas swami and his "initiating guru" Sridhar swami. Then Hanuman started to say, well maybe Bhakti Vikas swami is compromised and he is part of the regime. OK what PADA has said all along. Meanwhile someone wrote to tell me that Hanuman's wife is a Bhakti Vikas swami fan, at the same time she is discouraged and "fried" with ISKCON. The people who made ISKCON into the mess it is now, should not be our advisors and gurus?
2) Meanwhile, we pointed out that Hanuman's guru Sridhar swami was great pals with Radhanath swami -- and he should not be advertised as bona fide. Hanuman Croatia still goes on advertising him as a bona fide diksha guru anyway. Yes, they are all bogus, which is why -- I advertise them! (???)
Yep! Simultaneously, he says all of the GBC gurus are corrupt because the are all part of the same bogus process. There does not seem to be any good explanation for why GBC guru Sridhar swami was always hanging out with Radhanath -- and why the people who promote, cheer lead and prop up Radhanath as a guru -- are bona fide?
Hanuman says Radhanath is part of the Sulochana murder plot, and that means his guru Sridhar would also be part of that plot -- because he was propping up the regime that was coming after Sulochana (and me). And Radhanath in particular is a prime suspect in this process. Yet Sridhar swami was always pals with Radhanath? So we need to worship the Radhanath lover's club, to be bona fide?
3) Then Hanuman Croatia says we all need to listen to the only intelligent devotee left on the planet, aka Kailash Chandra. And Kailash writes a paper for the GBC in 1990 saying that the ritviks are bogus and we have to worship a living guru. OK what the GBC says, which is why Trivrikrama swami and others were handing out Kailash's papers to ISKCON folks.
Then Hanuman realizes -- what we realized a long time ago -- Kailash is simply another imperious emperor who cannot get along with any group of devotees -- anywhere. His misogynist treatment of Jadurani helped force her to go over to the Narayan Maharaja camp.
He has no visible temple programs, no preaching results, no books distribution, no named followers, no noticed pooja process, just some old guy sitting in a rocking chair outside a cabin in the middle of nowhere -- by himself, with ZERO pictures of Srila Prabhupada, or Krishna, or anyone -- or anything else! And saying that we have to be like the Christians and "wait for the coming of the messiah." OK that is not attractive to hardly anyone.
Hanuman Croatia has been very critical of us, saying that Kailash is right, we cannot find any examples of people worshiping pure devotees "in the tradition." The tradition of what? The tradition of who, what, where? Sorry, the tradition is, people worship Krishna via media His pure devotee. That is THE ONLY TRADITION there is!
What happened to Hanuman Croatia? That is a good question. ys pd
RE What Happened to Hanuman Croatia?
ReplyDeleteThey are now having online ZOOM video conferences with like-minded companions, ex-ISKCONites. As you say Hanuman presents himself as someone who is full of real knowledge but actually he is searching for answers. His website was supposed to create a congregation of disgruntled devotees who also feel cheated by the GBC. However, his specific understanding is not shared by many. Now the grapes are sour, he obviously is not a crowd puller. Of course, young devotees must make a living, must go to work, and what we see all over Europe, many ex-ISKCONites do not search for better sanga but completely leave the path of KC. "We have seen enough". Rather they live on their own than dealing with a situation that seems to come to no end. Kind of a repeat of what is mentioned by Prabhupada that GM was fighting for forty years and still there was no settlement.
[PADA: One of Hanuman's Zoom meetings turned into an argument when one of them members promoted Kailash, after Hanuman had rejected Kailash. So people who follow Hanuman have to follow his constant twists and turns, reversals, changed course, new ideas, swapping horses mid-stream -- he keeps making -- in order to keep up. He has no central idea what is to be done now. (A) Hanuman says we should accept Tamal's puppy Sridhara as bona fide (B) Sridhara has been best pals with Radhanath (C) but wait, Hanuman says Radhanath supports criminal behvior (D) therefore, people who support Radhanath are ... bona fide gurus? That makes no sense right out of the gate. Then he says we should worship Kailash, then he discovers Kailash is an imperious tyrant, which we all discovered in 1980? Meanwhile we have one central idea all along since 1970, worship the acharya and not a lot of bogus imitations of the acharya. Our idea is working because for starters, it is the same consistent idea all along. Hanuman is spinning around all the time, and then he wonders why people cannot follow him. It is because he is himself lost and is wandering in different directions all the time. ys pd]
LW: Hanuman still advertises his guru as GBC Sridhar Swami. The jolly swami ... who is always laughing ... while in the company of Radhanath. They are laughing ... while us and others are suffering. Then we are told Hanuman's wife is initiated by a GBC guru. He has to realize that all of this is deviation.
ReplyDeleteHanuman has not yet let go of his fake mother and father ... "the family" ... of GBC gurus. He thinks that is his family. He is like Indra taking birth as a pig ... and he thinks this is my family. Hanuman has to remove himself from his pig farm family, but he is too attached. That is why he does not like the ritviks ... anyone who escapes the pig pen is evil ... for leaving the family. He wants us to stay with his pig family and eat manure like he does. He has no idea that there is another life ... where we no longer need to eat manure ... he cannot even imagine such a life.
Why? He wants to eat manure now ... because the GBC trained him to eat that manure ... and so now he thinks it is good to eat it. He has to move outside the pig pen first of all ... but he does not even understand where he is now. On Yamaraja's planet people are trained to eat stools ... and think it is good ... and Hanuman has been trained in exactly the same way. We tell him to stop eating manure ... and he thinks we are giving bad advice. Very sad ... he has been infected by the GBC pig farm family.