Friday, February 22, 2013

Dear Brahmananda Puri dasa (re jiva origins)

PADA: Your friend Ron Marinelli (Uttamasloka Dasa) told me that Srila Prabhupda never said we were originally in Krishna's lila or sport. Obviously, he does not read Srila Prabhupada's words very closely, and never has apparently.

Worse, he is citing books we were told not to read! 

Worse, the Gaudiya Matha folks said that Srila Prabhupada's idea is bogus, and they still do, which prompted Srila Prabhupada to say, "some of my God brothers are tinged with mayavada." And this is why we were told not to read their books, which were edited by these (mayavada tinged) God brothers.

Worse, your friend is writing books about Krishna and Radha, when he is clearly covered with mayavada!

Worse, the idea that some souls originate with God / and some do not / is the teaching of the Vatican.

Worse, ... and of course, how much worse can it get? Well here is where it gets worse, almost whenever we cite Srila Prabhupada, this makes a certain sector of people angry. Story of my life. Anyway, for the record here is the quote, its does exist, and for the record, your friend Uttama Sloka is simply -- wrong. He has never understood our siddhanta, plain and simple. And for the record anyone who gets angry at Srila Prabhupada for making a statement, is not doing well spiritually. And so we hope your friend will apologize for insulting and attacking the words of the acharya and denying and defying his statements. ys pd  

SRILA PRABHUPADA: "As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately we are covered by Maya. Formerly, we were with Krishna in His lila or sport, but this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration. Therefore, many creations are coming and going. Due to this long period of time, it is sometimes said that we are ever-conditioned . . . Unless one develops full devotional service to Krishna, he goes up only to brahma-sayujya but falls down. After millions and millions of years of keeping oneself away from the lila of the Lord, when one comes to Krishna consciousness, this period becomes insignificant, just like dreaming. Because he falls down from brahma sayujya, he thinks that may be his origin, but he does not remember that, before that even, he was with Krishna." THE ORIGIN OF THE JIVA: BRAHMAJYOTI OR KRISHNA LILA?Australian conversation with Srila Prabhupada Transcribed as Nectar of the Month, BBT Report, January, 1982. 


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