Rocana's: Scorched Earth Policy
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/02-13/editorials9696.htm
Ritvik Representation on the Bhaktivedanta
Archives Board
BY: SUN EDITORS
Feb 02, 2013 — CANADA (SUN) — Throughout 2012, the Sampradaya Sun on a number of occasions ran news stories and banner promos for the Bhaktivedanta Archives project. Under the leadership of Ekanath das, the Archives was fund-raising for a legacy vault in which to safely store Srila Prabhupada's audio, writings, images, etc. The construction project is now well underway, having raised the needed funds and pledges.
On November 14, 2012, Ekanath das published a list of donors. Following the extremely generous sum of $26,461 donated by Madhusevita prabhu of Scotland, we read with interest that the next two largest donors were Ritvik devotees Madhu Pandit das/ISKCON Bangalore, who donated $9,990, and Jitarati das, who gave $6,506.
[PADA: In one sense this is good news; We are finally getting to the root issues here, -- there is simply a group of so-called Krishna devotees who do not want to see Srila Prabhupada being worshiped in his ISKCON movement, or to see his Bhaktivedanta Archives program preserved and so on. As soon as Rocana or his ilk find out that our Prabhupadanuga devotees are working to preserve the glorious written and audio legacy of Srila Prabhupada, Rocana then wants to have Srila Prabhupada's program's financial help stopped, so he can have the entire BHAKTIVEDANTA ARCHIVES program stunted if not stopped.
In other words, Rocana wants to attack the entire Srila Prabhupada Archives legacy program by de-funding it, and by chopping off its manpower and financial support. This would be like taking support away from those collating the Bible just after Jesus departed.
And while Rocana claims to be an ardent follower of Srila Prabhupada, he is at the same time one of the most vociferous amongst those attacking the Prabhupadanuga's idea of worship of HDG, as well as attacking the Archive legacy program of Srila Prabhupada. In short, Rocana is so envious of Srila Prabhupada's legacy, that he wants to destroy and de-fund that program. Even the atheists are not clamoring to de-fund and thus halt the Srila Prabhupada legacy program, only a few people like Rocana are? Thus, as soon as we say, let us worship Srila Prabhupada, then Rocana steps in and says -- that is bogus, and he is the number one critic of the worship of Srila Prabhupada on the planet, as are his "friends" -- like BVKS, Kailash Chandra, Bhakta Jarek, George A Smith -- and similar ilk. Yet even these "friends of Rocana" are not trying to bring down the Srila Prabhupada Archives program like he is?
Instead of Rocana saying, we are glad that the Prabhupadanugas are stepping up to help Srila Prabhupada's legacy program, because it is not getting much support from the "living gurus," Rocana is instead angry that Srila Prabhupada's Archives program is getting any assistance -- at all. Rocana simply wants the Srila Prabhupada Archives program to die off -- due to lack of manpower and funding -- just like Rocana's "living guru" idea has already "killed on the vine" so many other ISKCON projects, such as various schools, restaurants, temples and farms, programs that were stunted or closed due to lack of support and funding -- all thanks to fools like Rocana and his program of promoting idiots as ISKCON's "living guru" acharyas -- yes the same folks who burnt to the ground those now stunted or even defunct programs.
Now Rocana wants to further burn down / bring down / de-fund yet another important ISKCON program and shut it down as well, this time he is taking aim at the Archives project. That means Rocana is proud of his handiwork of already shutting down so many previous ISKCON projects with his bogus "living guru" ideology. Rocana has dedicated his life to promoting his false "living guru project" which is killing off support for ISKCON -- one devotee at a time, one project at a time, one temple at a time, one state at a time, one country at a time, and now he wants to kill off yet another important department of ISKCON, and that is all he has ever done for his whole life, killed off parts of ISKCON, and now he is apparently angry there are some teeny vestiges of ISKCON remaining still alive. And so he is getting out his flame thrower to further attack the few survivors of Rocana's carpet bombing attack on ISKCON by his promoting false gurus therein.
At the time of death Rocana will proudly announce to Lord Yamaraja, I tried everything I could to halt and kill the worship of God and His Pure Devotees, aren't you proud of me? Well, no Yamaraja won't be pleased at all. False gurus are destined for the lowest and most obnoxious regions after death, what to speak of their -- behind the scenes master-mind writers, advocates, legal wranglers, apologists, vociferous attack dogs, hatchet men, and close "siddhanta" supporters like Rocana. He is going where they are going, because he is "one with" them in shared ideology.
Rocana simply wants more ghost town temples and empty archives programs, he just wants to shut more ISKCON programs down, all because our people are not worshiping Rocana's molester messiahs project's pals as their messiahs? Wow, the molester messiah's project's folks are getting very desperate these days, they will even try to scuttle and totally destroy Srila Prabhupada's direct BHAKTIVEDANTA archives program if they can, to attain their end of having people worship their molester messiahs program instead.
Of course, yet another important ISKCON program was just shut down recently, and a devotee was crying to us about how this will hamper the preaching where he is. The poor people in that program also just could not believe that the leaders will stop such nice programs. I said, that is their trade mark, and Rocana is their current biggest hatchet man.
Rocana in short wants the Bhaktivedanta Archives program to be harassed, checked, stopped and un-funded. Rocana simply wants to bankrupt the Srila Prabhupada legacy program, just like Rocana and his pals bankrupted the entire ISKCON society already. Yes, as soon as Rocana finds out there are people who want to preserve and save the legacy of Srila Prabhupada, he is against that process, he just wants to tear down the entire Srila Prabhupada legacy program. Are we then surprised to see the likes of Mayesvara dasa (Gaudiya Matha), Dusyanta, Jayadvaita swami (book changer program), George A Smith (supports Rocana's living guru idea), and Kailash Chandra et al. also advertised on Rocana's site?]
ROCANA: We were also interested to hear, quite recently, that Sravanananda das (who donated $505) had been made a member of the Bhaktivedanta Archives Board of Directors. We received this news with quite a bit of concern given that over the last two years, Sravanananda has been closely associating with the Bangalore temple and told us that he was actively canvassing devotees in support of Madhu Pandit and the Bangalore Ritvik temple.
[PADA: Right, the people who want to preserve the legacy of Srila Prabhupada are basically demons who need to be stopped, so the Rocana program can preserve the bogus legacy of the molester acharyas program instead?]
ROCANA: In early 2012, we had occasion to talk with Sravanananda das on a number of occasions. What began as a fairly cordial exchange quickly degenerated into a screaming match peppered with expletives (he screamed, we listened), when he decided that the Sun editors were great demons because we would not publish various statements of his that we considered to be gratuitous Rtvik propaganda and undocumented anti-ISKCON invective.
[PADA: Rocana is the person who is always angry here? He says there is always a living guru, but he has never told us who his living guru is? And Rocana gets very angry when we ask him for the name and whereabouts of his alleged living guru? Rocana has simply lied and bluffed along for decades on this issue, he has no living guru, and he cannot even name his living guru. OK: he has no living guru.
This is a huge bluff and lie from him for decades now. Rocana says he "follows the tradition" of promoting the living guru, but he has none, he is a huge liar, and he is simply angry that we are exposing his giant lies. And while Rocana has no living guru at all, and he promotes the worship of nothing and nobody personally, he is angry that we are promoting the worship of Srila Prabhupada instead of the worship of -- no one at all. Of course, then again Rocana will promote people like Mayesvara (aka Gaudiya Matha folks, who supported the GBC's "living" gurus), and folks like Jayadvaita and Bhakti Vikas swamis, the "voted in" members of the molester acharyas program.]
ROCANA: Sravanananda sometimes presents himself as an ISKCON loyalist, and at other times rages against the ISKCON machine, siding with the Ritviks.
[PADA: Rocana does the same exact thing, he presents himself as an ISKCON loyalist and then he rages against all sorts of bogus dealings by the ISKCON leaders. Rocana is a hypocrite for complaining that others are doing exactly what he is doing, Rocana does not have to follow the rules, but others do, aka hypocrisy. Others have to name their guru, Rocana does not have to, he is a hypocrite, which is why Jesus says -- "Oh ye hyprocrites, sons of vipers."]
ROCANA: His Ritvik sentiments are typically delivered more with a passionate mood of retribution against the GBC than with anything approaching a sound guru-tattva argument. By early 2012, he was singing the glories of the Bangalore temple, having visited there and found their Ritvik program and preaching mood to be 'so much better than all the rest of ISKCON'. He could not bear the idea that the Sun would reject propaganda that glorified Bangalore, thus the falling out between us.
[PADA: Rocana has no program at all? Neither do his pals like Kailash, George etc. He has no temples, no preaching, no deity program, no nothing, at least Bangalore is doing something. Rocana would rather see nothing than something. He wants ISKCON to be burnt to scorched earth, nothing will be left. And nothing will be left if we leave things in his ISKCON destroying hands.]
ROCANA: We should also mention that prior to this parting of the ways, Sravanananda had been attempting to broker a fence-mending session between us and Madhu Pandit. (He initiated this campaign, not at our request.) He had gone to Madhu Pandit and arranged an agreement that Madhu Pandit would pay our costs to travel to Bangalore for meetings. Our response was that before flying half-way around the world, he should first arrange for Madhu Pandit to engage in some introductory phone conversations to discuss guru-tattva with us, since we are clearly polarized on that front.
The mood of largess represented by the proffered plane tickets quickly flew out the window when Sravanananda realized that even with a free trip to Bangalore hanging in the wings, we were still unwilling to publish the Ritvik propaganda he wanted to post on the Sun.
[PADA: Right, that means Rocana is terrified to meet with any of us Prabhupadanugas in person, since he cannot actually debate with us. For starters, because -- then he would have to explain his insane idea of -- worship of the imaginary non-existing living guru that he is promoting. Rocana is afraid to meet with any of us in person, or to answer any of our writings, which he cannot even start to debate in person or online. Because, at the start of the debate, he would not even be able to identify his imaginary friend, his current living guru, and he will then look like a fool for not being able to even give the name of his non-existing living guru. So he is just like the GBC gurus, they also cannot debate with us in person, Rocana speaks like them, and acts like them, because he is one of them.]
ROCANA: Now, a year later, we learn that Sravanananda das has been given a seat on the Board of Directors of the Bhaktivedanta Archives. The Board is currently comprised of Jayadvaita Swami, Ekanath das, Govinda, Nitya-trpta dd and now, Sravanananda. Strangely enough, a year ago when we were receiving regular phone calls from Sravanananda, one of his favourite topics of discussion was the book changes. He regularly and passionately railed against Jayadvaita Swami for changing the books. Now, he shares a Board seat with him, while the ISKCON News website applauds his participation.
[PADA: Right, Rocana is promoting Friends of The BBT, aka Jayadvaita swami. Why? Because Jayadvaita says in ISKCON, the gurus are often caught having illicit sex with men, women and children, why else? How else can Rocana pollute and contaminate the entire universe unless he supports the very people who promote the worship illicit sex with men, women and children as God's messsiahs? Rocana wants to destroy the universe by making the universe worship his perverts as gurus program.
And notice, Rocana is now upset that some people who do not worship his "perverts as messiahs" program might get on the Archives board. Rocana of course is not calling to remove folks like Jayadvaita and their illicit sex pooja program, he wants to remove the people who worship pure devotees instead. In sum, Rocana has always rooted for the worship of illicit sex messiah's crowd, then people wonder why so many children were molested under Rocana's giant jack boots program of living molester's pooja?]
ROCANA: Madhu Pandit das and the Bangalore Ritvik temple are engaged in a fierce battle with ISKCON. Even as we speak, both sides are preparing for the next round of combat before the Supreme Court of India. Yet here we have a close ally of Madhu Pandit's, sitting on the Board of the Bhaktivedanta Archives. It seems more than a little likely that the hefty Ritvik donations may have had something to do with Sravanananda's sudden installment on the Board.
[PADA: Right the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children program needs help, and Rocana is always ready to help them. He is in favor of the perverts pooja process project, plain and simple. What kind of man promotes the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children program? OK, Rocana does.]
ROCANA: Has anyone on the Archives Board given any thought to the potential pipeline that has been opened here? A fanatic Bangalore ally now has a hand in the Archives. Wouldn't it be convenient for Madhu Pandit, in the course of putting on his legal defense, to have access to documents tucked away in the Archives? Could there be unreleased material stored in the Archives that might be used towards securing a Ritvik win over ISKCON in court? And what about the other more outside risks? Consider this…
[PADA: Oh great, some un-released material from Srila Prabhupada might be released, so we need to stop Srila Prabhupada from speaking. Translation, what Rocana is really saying is -- shut up Srila Prabhupada! We do not need to hear anything more from you! I am your spiritual master Rocana! And I am ordering you to shut the heck up! We do not want to hear any more of your materials, or have them released, you have to sit in a corner and be quiet because -- I AM THE GREAT ROCANA -- my speaking is more important than yours!]
ROCANA: Is there any GBC or BBT oversight of the Bhaktivedanta Archives? Does Jayadvaita Swami represent any kind of an official voice on the Board? It's well known that Ekanath das and the other prabhus working at the Archives have struggled for long years to make do with far too few resources. While we have joined the chorus of voices complaining about Srila Prabhupada's legacy audio that has not yet been released or released in proper condition, or even inventoried and accounted for publicly, we were more than happy to help by publicizing the Legacy Vault fundraising project. But we have grave concerns about the risk represented by having Madhu Pandit's close ally, Sravanananda now sitting on the Archives Board.
[PADA: Great, so Rocana knows full well that the archives has been ignored, stunted and under-funded, and yet he still wants to cut off the small funds they are getting? OK, he wants to kill it, lets face it.]
ROCANA: Unfortunately, Ekanath das seems to be unaware of the risk. We wrote to him recently, inquiring about this, and he replied by saying that he does not believe Sravanananda agrees with post-samadhi ritvik diksa. But we can personally attest that while talking with Sravanananda in late 2011 and early 2012, he was very vocal in his support of the Ritvik model.
[PADA: There is almost no one stepping forward to help the archives, and yet we need to get rid of the few who are? Lets kill off this program just like we killed off so many other programs by removing the manpower and funding? There is a pattern here, kill off this program, kill off that program -- scorched earth, that is Rocana's entire program for the past 35 years.]
ROCANA: He (Sravananda) has been very instrumental in helping us collect almost half the funds for the Vault. I do not think he wants the destruction of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON, in fact he wants unity with some diversity to push the movement forward."
[PADA: Right, there is one person mainly who helps raise funds for the archives, so lets get rid of him, so we can kill off the archives. That is Rocana's plan and oddly, he is de facto admitting to that herein?]
ROCANA: On February 23, 2012, Sravanananda das (Daniel Perlmutter) wrote: "Banglore temple and its preachers have been abused, assaulted, slandered and in the process of trying to be destroyed so that ISKCON can steal all of its assets, and finances. Nothing else is to be said.
[PADA: All this is true. Moreover ISKCON's bogus gurus have wasted $15,000,000 -- (i.e 15 million dollars) suing the Bangalore temple, and meanwhile some of the temples in the USA have had rats on the altars, and many other problems maintaining things like simple electrical and plumbing repairs, and one temple is right now having problems with all kinds of "codes violations" from the city etc. And these are all simple and inexpensive things that are not being fixed, meanwhile the GBC spends millions buying mansions for lawyers. Why does Rocana support the rats passing stools on the altars program, which is buying chicken fried tikkas for their lawyers? What kind of devotee wants ghettos for Krishna and gold mansions for lawyers? Oh, I almost forgot, its Rocana. Well there are nice planets where people who want Krishna to live in a ghetto, and their karmi lawyers to live in marble mansions, will go, and Rocana will be spending a lot of time there. Ooopsee, yes these planets might make today's ghettos look like a mansion in comparison.]
ROCANA: …The devotees have suffered for years as they tirelessly preach with Srila Prabhupada as the pure center of their synergy and only distribute Srila Prabhupada's pure, unrevised Pre-1978 books.
[PADA: Right, the Bangalore devotees do not want to see Srila Prabhupada's writing altered and edited, so they have to go, they have to be sued and stopped. Rocana and his book changer club needs to survive.]
SRAVANANDA: Now we know there is a controversy in regards to what has been used as a derogatory term "Ritvik" or Post Samadhi Diksha. Now some Vaishnava Sampradaya have declared it is an acceptable form of Diksha and there appears to be this term used continuously thru Prabhupada's writings.(That of course is another subject to discuss, but it is not better to have Srila Prabhupada as the center?)
What would you rather have the continuous fall down (43 at present) of Post Samadhi Acharya Diksha / Shiksha appointed voted unqualified gurus, or His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada as the center who has the power to lead, instruct, manage, and initiate into the Sampradaya.???? He is present ……isn't he?
Could this be any more clear?
Srila Prabhupada Lecture, October 2, 1968, Seattle:
Tamala Krsna: "Can a Christian in this age, without a spiritual master, but by reading the Bible and following Jesus' words, reach the...
Prabhupada: When you read Bible, you follow spiritual master. How can you say without? As soon as you read Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ, that means you are following spiritual master. So where is the opportunity of being without spiritual master?
Madhudvisa: I was referring to a LIVING spiritual master.
Prabhupada: Spiritual master is NOT the question of... SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ETERNAL. SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ETERNAL. So your question is without spiritual master. Without spiritual master you cannot be, at any stage of your life. You may accept this spiritual master or that spiritual master. That is a different thing. But you have to accept. As you say that "by reading Bible," when you read Bible that means you are following the spiritual master represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ. So any case, you have to follow a spiritual master. There cannot be the question without spiritual master. Is that clear?"
Have we turned the pure eternal Vani of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada into a mundane religion? Where tenets and scripture have been manipulated for the benefit of conditioned leaders with ill intent? Where pure spiritual principals are now molded in a mundane fashion to satisfy the materialistic goals of covered souls? Have we not seen this before in history? (King James Version, etc)
The one line that comes to mind used that was spoken by the principal Guru at Bangalore at the time of his reign that really started the whole separation of Bangalore from the whole of the rest of the movement was when they asked about having a more direct connection with Srila Prabhupada. Of course they had observed the inconsistencies and lies of their presiding Guru and were beginning to lose faith anyhow, but he uttered:
"Srila Prabhupada is dead…….and he can no longer procreate.!!!"
Can you imagine any sincere follower of Srila Prabhupada tolerating such blasphemy.?
Well they didn't tolerate any of that offense………..and so the story began.
They had the intelligence, the strength and the courage to sacrifice everything!!!!! They had no care for their own personal lives and they definitely don't care about money. Krishna has given them plenty. They are accused of so many falsehoods but anyone can go there and see what sincere first class Vaishnavas they are. They are fully transparent on every level and the top accounting firm in the world does their books. They live simply and their constant thoughts and words are of Srila Prabhupada and no one else. Now they have become very suspicious since ISKCON Mumbai has organized spies who have cracked into their databases to send out slanderous letters to all of their life members, etc, etc. It is too disgusting for me to describe everything they have done as it makes my blood boil and I would like to remain civil in this story.
Is this the organization you want you and your family to proudly say you are a member of. I will always say proudly to anyone I am a follower of Srila Prabhupada, but I am about to take my rejecting of the present institution to a public level if this does not stop. Just as the brave soldiers of Vietnam came and threw their medals at the footsteps of the Capital building (I was there) to protest the injustices of the war and lies of the government I am feeling the same. All the street marches that ensued to stop the madness. Students were killed.
ISKCON is trying to destroy a preaching branch of Srila Prabhupada's movement that has been so successful and has been fully transparent. They are about to embark on some of the most amazing accomplishments that the movement would ever know but due to the constant attacks of the INDIA ISKCON Bureau/Council and the funding from India ISKCON leaders that are trying their best to destroy everything.
We have seen, we have heard and we have observed:
"Evil arises when good men do nothing!"
Now we can watch the destruction of one of the most potent preaching arms of the movement.
"Will you do nothing?"
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In American courts rarely do these cases make it to court. They are usually settled in a mediation environment. Everyone knows it is so much cheaper that way. The only ones benefitting are the lawyers who will celebrate with champagne in this debacle of insanity.
Then of course will the leaders of ISKCON India be able to assume the properties and conduct the high level preaching activities of the present Bangalore staff and devotees who all have 1 or more prestigious degrees from the best Universities of India. I think not if you have served in India and had to work with some of the corrupt leaders who continuously pocket ISKCON money to own some of the finest properties and yet many come from villages and have never had a job. Please don't use the inheritance lie anymore. We have seen the constant pilfering.
No, the fine work will be replaced by their hard aspiring and ill profit motivated newly initiated villagers and millions of dollars will be acquired by selling off most properties to pay off the legal debt borrowed from rich gurus and innocent life members
Are the egos of the twisted leaders conducting this anti Bangalore campaign more inflated and distorted than those of intelligent Karmis. I think so. I have worked with them and seen their barely intelligent management decisions based on mundane selfish goals and not highly spiritual preaching motivated decisions or based on fairness.
I am hoping and praying for a fair outcome where ISKCON Bangalore may continue their powerful and pure preaching. If they are not allowed to proceed I can only foresee more empowerment to those who have impure agendas. Then I will publicly disassociate my self from this corrupt institution that is not at all in line with Srila Prabhupada anymore as he did with the Gaudiya Math."
ROCANA: By the above statement (emphasis added), we can clearly understand Sravanananda's opinion on guru-tattva. The Bangalore temple preaches Ritvik-vada and conducts post-samadhi ritvik diksa initiations. Sravanananda consider this to be "pure preaching", when in fact, it is asiddhantic.
[PADA: Right, Rocana wants to kill off the last vestige of Srila Prabhupada's program, the Archives, because there is not enough worship of illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's programs going on in the world.]
ROCANA: And this underscores our reason for calling the matter of Sravanananda's seat on the Bhaktivedanta Archives Board to the reader's attention.
[PADA: Right, this is a GBC style witch hunt, if there is some rare person out there who wants to preserve the writings of Srila Prabhupada, lets burn him at the stake right away, remove him, harass him, vilify him etc. Lets face it, Rocana's living guru program has destroyed and bankrupted ISKCON and burnt it to the ground. The only hope left for his mission is the future generations; For those who might be able to see his writings long after we are gone, since Rocana's program has turned contemporary ISKCON into a bombed out dead zone.
And these future people should at the very least be given the archived works of the pure devotee. Rocana first was an overseer who wanted to have the original movement burnt to the ground with his molester messiahs program, and he has had great success, he has turned ISKCON into ashes. And now he is working on burning down the last vestiges we have left, to hand over to the next generation, namely the Archives, he wants that also burnt to the ground. Rocana wanted all along for Srila Prabhupada's mission to be scorched earth, and now he wants to incinerate the one teeny shred left still remaining in his bombed out dead zone, and which is barely hanging on by a thread, the Archives. Bomb it and destroy it! Told ya! ys pd]
In other words, Rocana wants to attack the entire Srila Prabhupada Archives legacy program by de-funding it, and by chopping off its manpower and financial support. This would be like taking support away from those collating the Bible just after Jesus departed.
And while Rocana claims to be an ardent follower of Srila Prabhupada, he is at the same time one of the most vociferous amongst those attacking the Prabhupadanuga's idea of worship of HDG, as well as attacking the Archive legacy program of Srila Prabhupada. In short, Rocana is so envious of Srila Prabhupada's legacy, that he wants to destroy and de-fund that program. Even the atheists are not clamoring to de-fund and thus halt the Srila Prabhupada legacy program, only a few people like Rocana are? Thus, as soon as we say, let us worship Srila Prabhupada, then Rocana steps in and says -- that is bogus, and he is the number one critic of the worship of Srila Prabhupada on the planet, as are his "friends" -- like BVKS, Kailash Chandra, Bhakta Jarek, George A Smith -- and similar ilk. Yet even these "friends of Rocana" are not trying to bring down the Srila Prabhupada Archives program like he is?
Instead of Rocana saying, we are glad that the Prabhupadanugas are stepping up to help Srila Prabhupada's legacy program, because it is not getting much support from the "living gurus," Rocana is instead angry that Srila Prabhupada's Archives program is getting any assistance -- at all. Rocana simply wants the Srila Prabhupada Archives program to die off -- due to lack of manpower and funding -- just like Rocana's "living guru" idea has already "killed on the vine" so many other ISKCON projects, such as various schools, restaurants, temples and farms, programs that were stunted or closed due to lack of support and funding -- all thanks to fools like Rocana and his program of promoting idiots as ISKCON's "living guru" acharyas -- yes the same folks who burnt to the ground those now stunted or even defunct programs.
Now Rocana wants to further burn down / bring down / de-fund yet another important ISKCON program and shut it down as well, this time he is taking aim at the Archives project. That means Rocana is proud of his handiwork of already shutting down so many previous ISKCON projects with his bogus "living guru" ideology. Rocana has dedicated his life to promoting his false "living guru project" which is killing off support for ISKCON -- one devotee at a time, one project at a time, one temple at a time, one state at a time, one country at a time, and now he wants to kill off yet another important department of ISKCON, and that is all he has ever done for his whole life, killed off parts of ISKCON, and now he is apparently angry there are some teeny vestiges of ISKCON remaining still alive. And so he is getting out his flame thrower to further attack the few survivors of Rocana's carpet bombing attack on ISKCON by his promoting false gurus therein.
At the time of death Rocana will proudly announce to Lord Yamaraja, I tried everything I could to halt and kill the worship of God and His Pure Devotees, aren't you proud of me? Well, no Yamaraja won't be pleased at all. False gurus are destined for the lowest and most obnoxious regions after death, what to speak of their -- behind the scenes master-mind writers, advocates, legal wranglers, apologists, vociferous attack dogs, hatchet men, and close "siddhanta" supporters like Rocana. He is going where they are going, because he is "one with" them in shared ideology.
Rocana simply wants more ghost town temples and empty archives programs, he just wants to shut more ISKCON programs down, all because our people are not worshiping Rocana's molester messiahs project's pals as their messiahs? Wow, the molester messiah's project's folks are getting very desperate these days, they will even try to scuttle and totally destroy Srila Prabhupada's direct BHAKTIVEDANTA archives program if they can, to attain their end of having people worship their molester messiahs program instead.
Of course, yet another important ISKCON program was just shut down recently, and a devotee was crying to us about how this will hamper the preaching where he is. The poor people in that program also just could not believe that the leaders will stop such nice programs. I said, that is their trade mark, and Rocana is their current biggest hatchet man.
Rocana in short wants the Bhaktivedanta Archives program to be harassed, checked, stopped and un-funded. Rocana simply wants to bankrupt the Srila Prabhupada legacy program, just like Rocana and his pals bankrupted the entire ISKCON society already. Yes, as soon as Rocana finds out there are people who want to preserve and save the legacy of Srila Prabhupada, he is against that process, he just wants to tear down the entire Srila Prabhupada legacy program. Are we then surprised to see the likes of Mayesvara dasa (Gaudiya Matha), Dusyanta, Jayadvaita swami (book changer program), George A Smith (supports Rocana's living guru idea), and Kailash Chandra et al. also advertised on Rocana's site?]
ROCANA: We were also interested to hear, quite recently, that Sravanananda das (who donated $505) had been made a member of the Bhaktivedanta Archives Board of Directors. We received this news with quite a bit of concern given that over the last two years, Sravanananda has been closely associating with the Bangalore temple and told us that he was actively canvassing devotees in support of Madhu Pandit and the Bangalore Ritvik temple.
[PADA: Right, the people who want to preserve the legacy of Srila Prabhupada are basically demons who need to be stopped, so the Rocana program can preserve the bogus legacy of the molester acharyas program instead?]
ROCANA: In early 2012, we had occasion to talk with Sravanananda das on a number of occasions. What began as a fairly cordial exchange quickly degenerated into a screaming match peppered with expletives (he screamed, we listened), when he decided that the Sun editors were great demons because we would not publish various statements of his that we considered to be gratuitous Rtvik propaganda and undocumented anti-ISKCON invective.
[PADA: Rocana is the person who is always angry here? He says there is always a living guru, but he has never told us who his living guru is? And Rocana gets very angry when we ask him for the name and whereabouts of his alleged living guru? Rocana has simply lied and bluffed along for decades on this issue, he has no living guru, and he cannot even name his living guru. OK: he has no living guru.
This is a huge bluff and lie from him for decades now. Rocana says he "follows the tradition" of promoting the living guru, but he has none, he is a huge liar, and he is simply angry that we are exposing his giant lies. And while Rocana has no living guru at all, and he promotes the worship of nothing and nobody personally, he is angry that we are promoting the worship of Srila Prabhupada instead of the worship of -- no one at all. Of course, then again Rocana will promote people like Mayesvara (aka Gaudiya Matha folks, who supported the GBC's "living" gurus), and folks like Jayadvaita and Bhakti Vikas swamis, the "voted in" members of the molester acharyas program.]
ROCANA: Sravanananda sometimes presents himself as an ISKCON loyalist, and at other times rages against the ISKCON machine, siding with the Ritviks.
[PADA: Rocana does the same exact thing, he presents himself as an ISKCON loyalist and then he rages against all sorts of bogus dealings by the ISKCON leaders. Rocana is a hypocrite for complaining that others are doing exactly what he is doing, Rocana does not have to follow the rules, but others do, aka hypocrisy. Others have to name their guru, Rocana does not have to, he is a hypocrite, which is why Jesus says -- "Oh ye hyprocrites, sons of vipers."]
ROCANA: His Ritvik sentiments are typically delivered more with a passionate mood of retribution against the GBC than with anything approaching a sound guru-tattva argument. By early 2012, he was singing the glories of the Bangalore temple, having visited there and found their Ritvik program and preaching mood to be 'so much better than all the rest of ISKCON'. He could not bear the idea that the Sun would reject propaganda that glorified Bangalore, thus the falling out between us.
[PADA: Rocana has no program at all? Neither do his pals like Kailash, George etc. He has no temples, no preaching, no deity program, no nothing, at least Bangalore is doing something. Rocana would rather see nothing than something. He wants ISKCON to be burnt to scorched earth, nothing will be left. And nothing will be left if we leave things in his ISKCON destroying hands.]
ROCANA: We should also mention that prior to this parting of the ways, Sravanananda had been attempting to broker a fence-mending session between us and Madhu Pandit. (He initiated this campaign, not at our request.) He had gone to Madhu Pandit and arranged an agreement that Madhu Pandit would pay our costs to travel to Bangalore for meetings. Our response was that before flying half-way around the world, he should first arrange for Madhu Pandit to engage in some introductory phone conversations to discuss guru-tattva with us, since we are clearly polarized on that front.
The mood of largess represented by the proffered plane tickets quickly flew out the window when Sravanananda realized that even with a free trip to Bangalore hanging in the wings, we were still unwilling to publish the Ritvik propaganda he wanted to post on the Sun.
[PADA: Right, that means Rocana is terrified to meet with any of us Prabhupadanugas in person, since he cannot actually debate with us. For starters, because -- then he would have to explain his insane idea of -- worship of the imaginary non-existing living guru that he is promoting. Rocana is afraid to meet with any of us in person, or to answer any of our writings, which he cannot even start to debate in person or online. Because, at the start of the debate, he would not even be able to identify his imaginary friend, his current living guru, and he will then look like a fool for not being able to even give the name of his non-existing living guru. So he is just like the GBC gurus, they also cannot debate with us in person, Rocana speaks like them, and acts like them, because he is one of them.]
ROCANA: Now, a year later, we learn that Sravanananda das has been given a seat on the Board of Directors of the Bhaktivedanta Archives. The Board is currently comprised of Jayadvaita Swami, Ekanath das, Govinda, Nitya-trpta dd and now, Sravanananda. Strangely enough, a year ago when we were receiving regular phone calls from Sravanananda, one of his favourite topics of discussion was the book changes. He regularly and passionately railed against Jayadvaita Swami for changing the books. Now, he shares a Board seat with him, while the ISKCON News website applauds his participation.
[PADA: Right, Rocana is promoting Friends of The BBT, aka Jayadvaita swami. Why? Because Jayadvaita says in ISKCON, the gurus are often caught having illicit sex with men, women and children, why else? How else can Rocana pollute and contaminate the entire universe unless he supports the very people who promote the worship illicit sex with men, women and children as God's messsiahs? Rocana wants to destroy the universe by making the universe worship his perverts as gurus program.
And notice, Rocana is now upset that some people who do not worship his "perverts as messiahs" program might get on the Archives board. Rocana of course is not calling to remove folks like Jayadvaita and their illicit sex pooja program, he wants to remove the people who worship pure devotees instead. In sum, Rocana has always rooted for the worship of illicit sex messiah's crowd, then people wonder why so many children were molested under Rocana's giant jack boots program of living molester's pooja?]
ROCANA: Madhu Pandit das and the Bangalore Ritvik temple are engaged in a fierce battle with ISKCON. Even as we speak, both sides are preparing for the next round of combat before the Supreme Court of India. Yet here we have a close ally of Madhu Pandit's, sitting on the Board of the Bhaktivedanta Archives. It seems more than a little likely that the hefty Ritvik donations may have had something to do with Sravanananda's sudden installment on the Board.
[PADA: Right the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children program needs help, and Rocana is always ready to help them. He is in favor of the perverts pooja process project, plain and simple. What kind of man promotes the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children program? OK, Rocana does.]
ROCANA: Has anyone on the Archives Board given any thought to the potential pipeline that has been opened here? A fanatic Bangalore ally now has a hand in the Archives. Wouldn't it be convenient for Madhu Pandit, in the course of putting on his legal defense, to have access to documents tucked away in the Archives? Could there be unreleased material stored in the Archives that might be used towards securing a Ritvik win over ISKCON in court? And what about the other more outside risks? Consider this…
[PADA: Oh great, some un-released material from Srila Prabhupada might be released, so we need to stop Srila Prabhupada from speaking. Translation, what Rocana is really saying is -- shut up Srila Prabhupada! We do not need to hear anything more from you! I am your spiritual master Rocana! And I am ordering you to shut the heck up! We do not want to hear any more of your materials, or have them released, you have to sit in a corner and be quiet because -- I AM THE GREAT ROCANA -- my speaking is more important than yours!]
ROCANA: Is there any GBC or BBT oversight of the Bhaktivedanta Archives? Does Jayadvaita Swami represent any kind of an official voice on the Board? It's well known that Ekanath das and the other prabhus working at the Archives have struggled for long years to make do with far too few resources. While we have joined the chorus of voices complaining about Srila Prabhupada's legacy audio that has not yet been released or released in proper condition, or even inventoried and accounted for publicly, we were more than happy to help by publicizing the Legacy Vault fundraising project. But we have grave concerns about the risk represented by having Madhu Pandit's close ally, Sravanananda now sitting on the Archives Board.
[PADA: Great, so Rocana knows full well that the archives has been ignored, stunted and under-funded, and yet he still wants to cut off the small funds they are getting? OK, he wants to kill it, lets face it.]
ROCANA: Unfortunately, Ekanath das seems to be unaware of the risk. We wrote to him recently, inquiring about this, and he replied by saying that he does not believe Sravanananda agrees with post-samadhi ritvik diksa. But we can personally attest that while talking with Sravanananda in late 2011 and early 2012, he was very vocal in his support of the Ritvik model.
[PADA: There is almost no one stepping forward to help the archives, and yet we need to get rid of the few who are? Lets kill off this program just like we killed off so many other programs by removing the manpower and funding? There is a pattern here, kill off this program, kill off that program -- scorched earth, that is Rocana's entire program for the past 35 years.]
ROCANA: He (Sravananda) has been very instrumental in helping us collect almost half the funds for the Vault. I do not think he wants the destruction of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON, in fact he wants unity with some diversity to push the movement forward."
[PADA: Right, there is one person mainly who helps raise funds for the archives, so lets get rid of him, so we can kill off the archives. That is Rocana's plan and oddly, he is de facto admitting to that herein?]
ROCANA: On February 23, 2012, Sravanananda das (Daniel Perlmutter) wrote: "Banglore temple and its preachers have been abused, assaulted, slandered and in the process of trying to be destroyed so that ISKCON can steal all of its assets, and finances. Nothing else is to be said.
[PADA: All this is true. Moreover ISKCON's bogus gurus have wasted $15,000,000 -- (i.e 15 million dollars) suing the Bangalore temple, and meanwhile some of the temples in the USA have had rats on the altars, and many other problems maintaining things like simple electrical and plumbing repairs, and one temple is right now having problems with all kinds of "codes violations" from the city etc. And these are all simple and inexpensive things that are not being fixed, meanwhile the GBC spends millions buying mansions for lawyers. Why does Rocana support the rats passing stools on the altars program, which is buying chicken fried tikkas for their lawyers? What kind of devotee wants ghettos for Krishna and gold mansions for lawyers? Oh, I almost forgot, its Rocana. Well there are nice planets where people who want Krishna to live in a ghetto, and their karmi lawyers to live in marble mansions, will go, and Rocana will be spending a lot of time there. Ooopsee, yes these planets might make today's ghettos look like a mansion in comparison.]
ROCANA: …The devotees have suffered for years as they tirelessly preach with Srila Prabhupada as the pure center of their synergy and only distribute Srila Prabhupada's pure, unrevised Pre-1978 books.
[PADA: Right, the Bangalore devotees do not want to see Srila Prabhupada's writing altered and edited, so they have to go, they have to be sued and stopped. Rocana and his book changer club needs to survive.]
SRAVANANDA: Now we know there is a controversy in regards to what has been used as a derogatory term "Ritvik" or Post Samadhi Diksha. Now some Vaishnava Sampradaya have declared it is an acceptable form of Diksha and there appears to be this term used continuously thru Prabhupada's writings.(That of course is another subject to discuss, but it is not better to have Srila Prabhupada as the center?)
What would you rather have the continuous fall down (43 at present) of Post Samadhi Acharya Diksha / Shiksha appointed voted unqualified gurus, or His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada as the center who has the power to lead, instruct, manage, and initiate into the Sampradaya.???? He is present ……isn't he?
Could this be any more clear?
Srila Prabhupada Lecture, October 2, 1968, Seattle:
Tamala Krsna: "Can a Christian in this age, without a spiritual master, but by reading the Bible and following Jesus' words, reach the...
Prabhupada: When you read Bible, you follow spiritual master. How can you say without? As soon as you read Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ, that means you are following spiritual master. So where is the opportunity of being without spiritual master?
Madhudvisa: I was referring to a LIVING spiritual master.
Prabhupada: Spiritual master is NOT the question of... SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ETERNAL. SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ETERNAL. So your question is without spiritual master. Without spiritual master you cannot be, at any stage of your life. You may accept this spiritual master or that spiritual master. That is a different thing. But you have to accept. As you say that "by reading Bible," when you read Bible that means you are following the spiritual master represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ. So any case, you have to follow a spiritual master. There cannot be the question without spiritual master. Is that clear?"
Have we turned the pure eternal Vani of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada into a mundane religion? Where tenets and scripture have been manipulated for the benefit of conditioned leaders with ill intent? Where pure spiritual principals are now molded in a mundane fashion to satisfy the materialistic goals of covered souls? Have we not seen this before in history? (King James Version, etc)
The one line that comes to mind used that was spoken by the principal Guru at Bangalore at the time of his reign that really started the whole separation of Bangalore from the whole of the rest of the movement was when they asked about having a more direct connection with Srila Prabhupada. Of course they had observed the inconsistencies and lies of their presiding Guru and were beginning to lose faith anyhow, but he uttered:
"Srila Prabhupada is dead…….and he can no longer procreate.!!!"
Can you imagine any sincere follower of Srila Prabhupada tolerating such blasphemy.?
Well they didn't tolerate any of that offense………..and so the story began.
They had the intelligence, the strength and the courage to sacrifice everything!!!!! They had no care for their own personal lives and they definitely don't care about money. Krishna has given them plenty. They are accused of so many falsehoods but anyone can go there and see what sincere first class Vaishnavas they are. They are fully transparent on every level and the top accounting firm in the world does their books. They live simply and their constant thoughts and words are of Srila Prabhupada and no one else. Now they have become very suspicious since ISKCON Mumbai has organized spies who have cracked into their databases to send out slanderous letters to all of their life members, etc, etc. It is too disgusting for me to describe everything they have done as it makes my blood boil and I would like to remain civil in this story.
Is this the organization you want you and your family to proudly say you are a member of. I will always say proudly to anyone I am a follower of Srila Prabhupada, but I am about to take my rejecting of the present institution to a public level if this does not stop. Just as the brave soldiers of Vietnam came and threw their medals at the footsteps of the Capital building (I was there) to protest the injustices of the war and lies of the government I am feeling the same. All the street marches that ensued to stop the madness. Students were killed.
ISKCON is trying to destroy a preaching branch of Srila Prabhupada's movement that has been so successful and has been fully transparent. They are about to embark on some of the most amazing accomplishments that the movement would ever know but due to the constant attacks of the INDIA ISKCON Bureau/Council and the funding from India ISKCON leaders that are trying their best to destroy everything.
We have seen, we have heard and we have observed:
"Evil arises when good men do nothing!"
Now we can watch the destruction of one of the most potent preaching arms of the movement.
"Will you do nothing?"
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In American courts rarely do these cases make it to court. They are usually settled in a mediation environment. Everyone knows it is so much cheaper that way. The only ones benefitting are the lawyers who will celebrate with champagne in this debacle of insanity.
Then of course will the leaders of ISKCON India be able to assume the properties and conduct the high level preaching activities of the present Bangalore staff and devotees who all have 1 or more prestigious degrees from the best Universities of India. I think not if you have served in India and had to work with some of the corrupt leaders who continuously pocket ISKCON money to own some of the finest properties and yet many come from villages and have never had a job. Please don't use the inheritance lie anymore. We have seen the constant pilfering.
No, the fine work will be replaced by their hard aspiring and ill profit motivated newly initiated villagers and millions of dollars will be acquired by selling off most properties to pay off the legal debt borrowed from rich gurus and innocent life members
Are the egos of the twisted leaders conducting this anti Bangalore campaign more inflated and distorted than those of intelligent Karmis. I think so. I have worked with them and seen their barely intelligent management decisions based on mundane selfish goals and not highly spiritual preaching motivated decisions or based on fairness.
I am hoping and praying for a fair outcome where ISKCON Bangalore may continue their powerful and pure preaching. If they are not allowed to proceed I can only foresee more empowerment to those who have impure agendas. Then I will publicly disassociate my self from this corrupt institution that is not at all in line with Srila Prabhupada anymore as he did with the Gaudiya Math."
ROCANA: By the above statement (emphasis added), we can clearly understand Sravanananda's opinion on guru-tattva. The Bangalore temple preaches Ritvik-vada and conducts post-samadhi ritvik diksa initiations. Sravanananda consider this to be "pure preaching", when in fact, it is asiddhantic.
[PADA: Right, Rocana wants to kill off the last vestige of Srila Prabhupada's program, the Archives, because there is not enough worship of illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's programs going on in the world.]
ROCANA: And this underscores our reason for calling the matter of Sravanananda's seat on the Bhaktivedanta Archives Board to the reader's attention.
[PADA: Right, this is a GBC style witch hunt, if there is some rare person out there who wants to preserve the writings of Srila Prabhupada, lets burn him at the stake right away, remove him, harass him, vilify him etc. Lets face it, Rocana's living guru program has destroyed and bankrupted ISKCON and burnt it to the ground. The only hope left for his mission is the future generations; For those who might be able to see his writings long after we are gone, since Rocana's program has turned contemporary ISKCON into a bombed out dead zone.
And these future people should at the very least be given the archived works of the pure devotee. Rocana first was an overseer who wanted to have the original movement burnt to the ground with his molester messiahs program, and he has had great success, he has turned ISKCON into ashes. And now he is working on burning down the last vestiges we have left, to hand over to the next generation, namely the Archives, he wants that also burnt to the ground. Rocana wanted all along for Srila Prabhupada's mission to be scorched earth, and now he wants to incinerate the one teeny shred left still remaining in his bombed out dead zone, and which is barely hanging on by a thread, the Archives. Bomb it and destroy it! Told ya! ys pd]
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