Thursday, October 11, 2012

Rocana defeats Rocana update

PADA: On the one hand Rocana is always promoting:

*** (A) compromised people like Mayesvara dasa (Ojai California) who supports: ISKCON gurus like Hrdayananda, and simultaneously he supports -- the Gaudiya Matha's false gurus, Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, the World Vaishnava association (WVA),  Madhava Maharaja's successor Bhakti Ballabha Tirtha, and of course some of the GBC gurus and their connections to sahajiyas like Fakir Mohan etc.

SRILA PRABHUPADA NEVER RECOGNIZED THESE "GURU" LINES AS BONA FIDE!

*** (B) At the same time Rocana promotes our idea, the Prabhupadanuga's idea, that the parampara is only 32 people. This makes Srila Prabhupada the current acharya. And so Rocana says we Prabhupadanugas are right: Srila Prabhupada is the CURRENT samparadaya acharya.

At the same time! Notice that Rocana is complaining that the ISKCON Pune site promotes "the Gaudiya Matha" and its missions, ok some of "the missions" we just mentioned above, and they also do not promote the "32 guru's" line.

And all of the assembled GBC and Gaudiya Matha people refer to their guru line as the "guru vrnda," "guru varga" and so on. And are we surprised to find that some of the GBC's gurus now refer to their post 1977 guru line as "the guru vrnda" (using Gaudiya Matha terminology). So in other words, one day Rocana promotes Mayesvara and the Gaudiya Matha and their guru vrnda idea, never mind many members of their guru vrnda are always be found out to be deviants. The next day Rocana is with the ritviks, he says there are only 32 gurus listed?

The next day we find Rocana is criticizing the guru vrnda idea of the Gaudiya Matha? How can we be both for and against these bogus people? So this is the trouble with these folks, they will support this bogus guru vrnda program one day, then attack it the next day, or even -- support and oppose on the same day? 

This means they are promoting "the line of 32" or something like Jesus's pooja one minute, and then advertising for Satan's pooja the next moment. This is why we Prabhupadanugas are making so much progress, we only promote the worship of the acharya  at all times, and we never promote these bogus guru vrnda parties. This is good, it shows that people who are offending Prabhupada are totally losing their marbles, they have no brains left to even understand that they are making no sense anymore. As Srila Prabhupada says, these rascals lose their intelligence, buddhi nasa, and then they no longer are able to distinguish good from bad, so they fall into the material pool, or in this case, they are dropped to the bottom of the material ocean. These people will have a hard time explaining how they support both the worship of Jesus and Satan at the same time, to the Yamaduttas? ys pd

GBC is the Disciplic Succession?

BY: SUN STAFF (OK, Rocana dasa)

On the ISKCON Pune website's 'About Radhanath Swami' page, we read the following:

"Traveling and preaching widely, he is one of the Governing Body Commissioners, the disciplic succession that dates back more than 5000 years, he has a simple message - humility rather than pride, compassion as opposed to envy are the qualities we should be striving for." (ISKCON Pune Website)

As it's worded, this not only suggests that the GBC body is itself 'the disciplic succession', but that its legacy goes back 5,000 years. As noted in the recent paper, "Guru-parampara: The List of 32", a somewhat similar conception, that the GBC body is to be seen as 33rd on the list of Sampradaya Acaryas, has also been promoted by Jaya Tirtha Charan das (JPS), who lists Srila Prabhupada as being on an equal level as the Gaudiya Matha, with the GBC succeeding him in the guru-parampara.




Guru-parampara: The List of 32 - 'Recognition of Srila Prabhupada
as the Current Sampradaya Acarya'

As explained in "Guru-parampara: The List of 32", we believe this to be an entirely flawed conception, as is the Pune website description.

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