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A S Dasi: It's a bit late for all the terrible child abuse at Chaitanya College in 1981.1982 1983.
[Which was covered up by Bhagavan / William Erlichman and other ISKCON leaders. Evidently Bhagavan tried to have victims hypnotized to have them forget these incidents.]
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LOKANATHA SWAMI
PADA: Yes, Mukunda and Ravindra and others (Bir Krishna?) told the family of Lokanath's 11 years old female victim -- not -- to go to the police because they would insure that Lokanath never held a high office. A few months later the victim saw Lokanath sitting in a Vyasa being worshiped.
The GBC stopped the police report so they could cheat the family out of justice, and that has happened in many other cases. A person who has lust for children, and he performs lusty acts on children, is not a guru, he is a criminal. That is something every karmi already knows. A person who has lust for children like Kirtanananda does not belong in a samadhi, and so on and so forth ad infinitum with ISKCON leaders.
One of the relatives of the Lokanath victim was kicked out of their ISKCON apartment just a few weeks before the woman was going to give birth. The baby miscarried and died. Most of us agreed that causing he maximum distress just when she is about to give birth caused this baby to die. ys pd.
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ANOTHER TESTIMONY
Years ago, I attended Jayapataka Swami’s Gaura Purnima feast with my family. My daughters had been helping all day. My eldest, just 13, finally sat down to eat — and an elderly mataji, a senior Prabhupada disciple, approached me.
She smiled and said how beautiful my daughter was… then asked if we’d consider her as a match for her 37-year-old son. Thirty seven!!! When I said, “She’s only 13,” she didn’t back off. She just said, “Maybe when she’s 16 then.”
I couldn’t believe what I was hearing — especially from a white, Western woman who should know full well that child marriage is abuse. But this wasn’t an isolated event. Another gurukula mother used to tell me in the temple, “We should start looking for your daughter now — 13 is the perfect age.”
And the most painful part? Her own father said the same kinds of things: “A girl doesn’t need an education, just enough to read and write.” “She should be married as soon as she hits puberty.” These were things he said while our daughter — still a child, she was still building her confidence.
She needed protection. And I realized I had to protect her from her own father.
So I left him. And I left ISKCON. Because spiritual grooming is still grooming. When adults pressure or normalize the idea of marrying off children — that is abuse. Let’s talk about spiritual grooming — because many don’t even realize it’s happening.
Spiritual grooming happens when someone uses religious authority, scripture, or tradition to pressure others — especially children — into roles or behavior that harm them, while making it seem like a spiritual duty. It sounds like:
“This is what chaste girls do.”
“This is our culture — questioning it is offensive.”
“If you speak up, you’re committing aparadha.”
This kind of manipulation breaks down trust, identity, and a child’s natural sense of safety. It silences them. It teaches them to accept pressure and confusion as part of “spiritual life.”
But using scripture to control is not devotion. It’s abuse. What can help? Education. Awareness. Open conversation. We need to talk about these things in classes, in communities, in training programs for parents and teachers.
We need to teach:
What healthy boundaries look like.
That childhood is sacred and must be protected.
That true spiritual leadership uplifts and supports. Not controls and manipulates.
Because without awareness, the cycle continues — quietly and dangerously.
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RADHANATH IS IMPLICATED
ANOTHER TESTIMONY
Years ago, I attended Jayapataka Swami’s Gaura Purnima feast with my family. My daughters had been helping all day. My eldest, just 13, finally sat down to eat — and an elderly mataji, a senior Prabhupada disciple, approached me.
She smiled and said how beautiful my daughter was… then asked if we’d consider her as a match for her 37-year-old son. Thirty seven!!! When I said, “She’s only 13,” she didn’t back off. She just said, “Maybe when she’s 16 then.”
I couldn’t believe what I was hearing — especially from a white, Western woman who should know full well that child marriage is abuse. But this wasn’t an isolated event. Another gurukula mother used to tell me in the temple, “We should start looking for your daughter now — 13 is the perfect age.”
And the most painful part? Her own father said the same kinds of things: “A girl doesn’t need an education, just enough to read and write.” “She should be married as soon as she hits puberty.” These were things he said while our daughter — still a child, she was still building her confidence.
She needed protection. And I realized I had to protect her from her own father.
So I left him. And I left ISKCON. Because spiritual grooming is still grooming. When adults pressure or normalize the idea of marrying off children — that is abuse. Let’s talk about spiritual grooming — because many don’t even realize it’s happening.
Spiritual grooming happens when someone uses religious authority, scripture, or tradition to pressure others — especially children — into roles or behavior that harm them, while making it seem like a spiritual duty. It sounds like:
“This is what chaste girls do.”
“This is our culture — questioning it is offensive.”
“If you speak up, you’re committing aparadha.”
This kind of manipulation breaks down trust, identity, and a child’s natural sense of safety. It silences them. It teaches them to accept pressure and confusion as part of “spiritual life.”
But using scripture to control is not devotion. It’s abuse. What can help? Education. Awareness. Open conversation. We need to talk about these things in classes, in communities, in training programs for parents and teachers.
We need to teach:
What healthy boundaries look like.
That childhood is sacred and must be protected.
That true spiritual leadership uplifts and supports. Not controls and manipulates.
Because without awareness, the cycle continues — quietly and dangerously.
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RADHANATH IS IMPLICATED
According to an account written by a former New Vrndavana resident (Henry Doktorski) there is evidence the current guru of the ISKCON Chowpatty Bombay temple -- Radhanath Swami (Richard Slavin) -- was in involved in paying the hit man who came to kill Sulochana (and who the police told me was following me in Berkeley to do surveillance on me). This is detailed in the book "God, Gold and Guns pt. 1" by Henry Doktorski. Henry has wrote a series of books on the topic of New Vrndavana especially, but what was going on there was similar to other ISKCON locations.
The correct title is “Killing For Krishna,” not “Gold, Guns and God, volume one.” You might want to change that
Henry Doktorski, M.Mus., C.A.G.O.
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PADA: Yeah, some of the ISKCON sycophants and temple watch dogs have had 3-4 marriages and kids from several women. In some of these cases, the abandoned woman has no support for her and her kids. CBS news Jane Wallace said that she saw many New Vrndavan mothers had kids who looked totally different, because the kids evidently came from different fathers. She asked me if the New Vrndavan policy is to pass women around to different men -- I said yeah, it is. ys pd
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August 6th, 2025
POWERFUL POEM FROM KRISHNA’S KIDS….
I just received this. Very heavy. I dont know who the author is:
"You Will Not Be Saved by Prabhupāda — Hell Is Waiting”
We came with flowers in our hands,
You burned them.
We called you “Prabhu,”
You spit silence in return.
We bowed at your feet,
While your hands—
They wandered where no child should ever feel
A pain that doesn’t heal.
You chanted japa.
We wept in the corners.
You danced in kīrtan,
We bled behind the altars.
You told us, “This is Kṛṣṇa’s mercy.”
You told us, “Endure. Don’t shame the mission.”
But what mission protects monsters
And crushes a child’s vision?
We screamed in whispers
Because no one listened to loud cries.
You were too busy decorating crowns
While another child inside quietly dies.
Do you remember the boy who forgot how to speak?
The girl who flinched at her guru’s feet?
The one who never came back from gurukula —
Who learned that God lived in nightmares, not pūjā?
Your necks wear tulasī,
But your hearts are stone.
Your mouths say “mercy,”
But your homes? Hell alone.
Do you think you’re saved?
You’re not.
You are going to hell.
And no, not in some far-off time —
Now. This breath. This karma. This curse.
Because every child you broke
Is crying to Nrsimhadeva, and He heard us first.
Srila Prabhupāda never said:
“Let the children be raped in My name.”
He never taught you how to smile
While covering their shame.
You think you serve him?
He has turned his eyes.
He watches the orphans of your sins
And mourns your disguise.
You are not gurus.
You are not saints.
You are predators in cloth,
And cowards in restraint.
Every mantra you chant is choked by their tears.
Every bhoga you offer, rejected by their fears.
Every temple you build stands on their bones.
And your legacy?
Ashes. Screams. Stones.
We were children.
We trusted.
And now we speak.
Your time is ending.
Your names will rot.
You are not devotees.
You are demons in dhoti.
Hell is coming for you dear predators
To the abused — You are not forgotten.
To the protectors of abuse — Your kingdom is collapsing.
To the world — If you stay silent, you’re next.
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The correct title is “Killing For Krishna,” not “Gold, Guns and God, volume one.” You might want to change that
Henry Doktorski, M.Mus., C.A.G.O.
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PADA: Yeah, some of the ISKCON sycophants and temple watch dogs have had 3-4 marriages and kids from several women. In some of these cases, the abandoned woman has no support for her and her kids. CBS news Jane Wallace said that she saw many New Vrndavan mothers had kids who looked totally different, because the kids evidently came from different fathers. She asked me if the New Vrndavan policy is to pass women around to different men -- I said yeah, it is. ys pd
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August 6th, 2025
POWERFUL POEM FROM KRISHNA’S KIDS….
I just received this. Very heavy. I dont know who the author is:
"You Will Not Be Saved by Prabhupāda — Hell Is Waiting”
We came with flowers in our hands,
You burned them.
We called you “Prabhu,”
You spit silence in return.
We bowed at your feet,
While your hands—
They wandered where no child should ever feel
A pain that doesn’t heal.
You chanted japa.
We wept in the corners.
You danced in kīrtan,
We bled behind the altars.
You told us, “This is Kṛṣṇa’s mercy.”
You told us, “Endure. Don’t shame the mission.”
But what mission protects monsters
And crushes a child’s vision?
We screamed in whispers
Because no one listened to loud cries.
You were too busy decorating crowns
While another child inside quietly dies.
Do you remember the boy who forgot how to speak?
The girl who flinched at her guru’s feet?
The one who never came back from gurukula —
Who learned that God lived in nightmares, not pūjā?
Your necks wear tulasī,
But your hearts are stone.
Your mouths say “mercy,”
But your homes? Hell alone.
Do you think you’re saved?
You’re not.
You are going to hell.
And no, not in some far-off time —
Now. This breath. This karma. This curse.
Because every child you broke
Is crying to Nrsimhadeva, and He heard us first.
Srila Prabhupāda never said:
“Let the children be raped in My name.”
He never taught you how to smile
While covering their shame.
You think you serve him?
He has turned his eyes.
He watches the orphans of your sins
And mourns your disguise.
You are not gurus.
You are not saints.
You are predators in cloth,
And cowards in restraint.
Every mantra you chant is choked by their tears.
Every bhoga you offer, rejected by their fears.
Every temple you build stands on their bones.
And your legacy?
Ashes. Screams. Stones.
We were children.
We trusted.
And now we speak.
Your time is ending.
Your names will rot.
You are not devotees.
You are demons in dhoti.
Hell is coming for you dear predators
To the abused — You are not forgotten.
To the protectors of abuse — Your kingdom is collapsing.
To the world — If you stay silent, you’re next.
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VARIOUS COMMENTS:
PADA: The era of supporting the leaders who caused all the mass child mistreatment has never ended. Jayapataka, Lokanath, Hrdayananda, Satsvarupa, Mukunda Maharaja et al. and all these types are still being glorified and given Vyas poojas, health care funding and all the rest. When we were suing them for $400,000,000 some of the GBC leaders agreed that the children needed trauma counselling, and more than that, they needed seed capital to start their lives since some of them were homeless and since many had no job training, funding for that was also needed. But nope!
At that exact time, the GBC announced they are going to be spending $20,000,000 suing the directors of a free food program in Bangalore. No money went to the kids, and instead the GBC began their program of buying Luis Vuitton suits for lawyers. No funding for trauma care, seed capital, job training etc. ever materialized. The only thing that materialized was a Luis Vuitton lawyer fund.
And it is the same thing now, the leaders are now looking at a potential criminal child mistreatment case, and instead of removing the leaders who orchestrated that mess to save ISKCON from being a legal target, they are already looking at another round of buying more Luis Vuittons for lawyers.
Did I forget to mention, some of the victims were infuriated that the GBC wanted to shut down a free food program, after being sued for not feeding ISKCON kids in the first place? Why are children always made to suffer, and no one ever answers. In other words, the orchestrators of the child mistreatment are always protected with a giant wall of lawyers, the kids never get anything from all this as many tell me even now.
A society that worships -- as its messiahs -- the same leaders and orchestrators of a mass child mistreatment process -- will never have happy victims, no matter how much "therapy" the victims are given. Of course, a number of ex-child victims here tell me, the same leaders also never paid for their therapy, welfare or care of any type, or gave them seed capital to start their lives, or paid for their vocational job training after they got zero job training in ISKCON, or paid for anything else for the victims.
But when the leaders need legal help when being held accountable for some of this mess they created for these children, then all of a sudden there is a spare $100,000,000 found in the GBC's cash drawer, so the leaders can hide behind a wall of lawyers and buy Luis Vuitton suits for lawyers instead of offering any help for the child victims. That is what some victims here tell me, what is the good counter I can tell them? ys pd
*** There is no philosophy or guru tattva when leaders are orchestrating mass child mistreatment, and having us whistle blowers vociferously removed, and then hunted to be put into the grave. And then we have to take shelter of law enforcement, and be saved by undercover law enforcement agents following me around Berkeley -- when their three enforcers were chasing me down the street. And according to the FEDs, I would no longer be present on this planet currently -- if they had not rescued me and -- had been tapping the phones of the leaders. And thus they cut off the three GBC enforcers sent here to take me out, by putting undercover agents on my trail. This is called a criminal conspiracy, not a guru lineage, and that is why we have to take them to criminal court. I have no idea how a criminal conspiracy of orchestrated child mistreatment and guru tattva have any shared position, nor do my friends in law enforcement. ys pd
*** Religions do not regulate the acharyas. The acharyas regulate the religion. A guru does not need to follow a committee of conditioned souls, especially when those conditioned souls on the committee are compromised and defending mass child mistreatment, protecting perps, enabling mistreatment, and targeting us whistle blowers to go into the graveyard. A guru is independent of these contaminations. A guru does not make the error of protecting perps and removing the whistle blowers, and having them hunted to be placed six feet under in the graveyard. These are behaviors of criminals, not gurus. ISKCON has not made errors ---- an error is a mistake. There is no mistake here. The leaders consciously and willingly removed us and kept the perps, and had us hunted, this is called criminal and that is why it is going to criminal court. If I step on your toes one day, that is a mistake. If I step on your toes every day, day in and out for 50 years, that is conscious and willing action. They still have not removed blatant cases like Lokanath, this is not a mistake, this is conscious choice by these leaders. ys pd
*** Yeah when we started having them sued for $400,000,000 in 1998, they began to double down supporting Bhakti Vidya Purna and his team in Mayapur, and victims told me, things only got worse. Way worse. I was in Los Angeles and all the leaders avoided talking to me, they were in a big gaggle on Watseka with their lawyers and when I came by they went silent. OK Jayapataka did charge at me once yelling, but that was about it. They never made any attempt to find out what the problem was. But yeah, instead of fixing things, they found even worse people to manage the children.
When I said we need funds to help the victims, to give them trauma care, seed capital (some were homeless living in their car in LA), and job skills training because ISKCON gave them almost none etc., then the GBC and Lokanath supported spending $20,000,000 suing the directors of Akshaya Patra, so they could shut down a program that is feeding 2.2M kids. So this was really not making the victims happy, the GBC is ALREADY being sued for not feeding their own kids, and they want to spend $20,000,000, not on their kids, but to stop people who ARE feeding other kids. Bhakti Caru and Lokanath people etc. were helping raise the $20M.
So those ISKCON kids never got anything to help them from the GBC folks, and still never have, and never will. So this is called perps and their enablers, and none of the leaders ever asked me anything and many of them were in and out of LA when I was there. OK Jayadvaita did offer some help, he said the 5 years old kids are making the wrong guru choices. Wait? If I leave marijuana cookies on my kitchen table, and my 5 years old kid eats them and goes to schools stoned, guess what, the 5 years old never get blamed.
The adults are blamed. Jayadvaita thinks the 5 years old is the criminal, not him and his adult GBC folks. Sheesh! That is why this needs to go to criminal court, they are the criminals, not the 5 years old. They should get rid of some of these people like Jokernath now as a gesture of sincerity to the courts. ys pd
*** Yeah Jayapataka told me I am not allowed on any ISKCON property and I have to take him to court. Then, after strictly following his order to go to court, his followers start crying to me that I am making them lose $100,000,000. OK well I never said I wanted Jayapataka to donate $100,000,000 to buying lawyers Luis Vuitton suits, he said he wanted to do that to me direct. He ordered me -- take us to court -- and then I can donate $100M to the Luis Vuitton suits of lawyers. He wanted this, not me. These guys have no idea that we should not be donating $100M to the Luis Vuitton suits department, when they were begging for money for Mayapur kids shoes in 2001, but they insisted. Now we are taking their program to criminal court, same thing, they will no doubt spend millions more buying more Luis Vuittons. It never ends with these folks. Where does Srila Prabhupada say, we should allow many of his books to go out of print, and spend the printing money on Luis Vuitton? ys pd
Dharmesh Sharma son of Shri Kirti Kumar Sharma, date of birth 22nd July 1969 currently residing at Plot No. 93, S1, Shivam Enclave, Gyan Vihar Colony, Jaipur -302019 hereafter referred to as the Settler propose to form a trust. The deed of the proposed trust is as follows. This trust shall be known by the name , “Hare Krishna Community, Jaipur” or in short “H.K.C , Jaipur.”
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DAYALU NITAI AND HKC JAIPUR
PADA: Yes prabhu, the Dayalu Nitai's (Dharmesh Sharma) HKC Jaipur people and their thug Prahlad das (Paul Coats UK) SUPPORTED THE GBC's propaganda and said that PADA's program -- ok saving children from being starved, beaten and sexually abused -- "has no credibility." And then Mukunda UK, Mathura Pati, Prabhupadanugas EU and others joined them.
Saving children from abuse, and maybe taking their lives due to the trauma, has no credibility? Wow, any average Joe Six pack karmi knows they have a duty to save children, but not so much for the molester's cult members and defenders.
Prahlad also says he wants to help the GBC goons identify me to have me taken out, so they are direct or de facto encouraging violence if not murdering the people who save children. OK how are they any different than the New Vrndavana people?
And then Mathura Pati (see links below) said that I have to apologize to Prahlad -- ummm, for my idea that children need to be saved from abuse? I have to apologize because Prahlad is encouraging violence against people who save children? Saving children is a crime -- in pedophile cults, this is routine.
We need to apologize because we had hundreds of kids pulled out of a program that harms children. Saving children is a big mistake. And Peter says that the reason they want PADA to fail -- and thereby to have children continue to be starved, beat and molested is "we love children." Ummm, the Joe Six pack society has more love for children because -- their society helps us -- and the children -- and not your society. Your society wants to crush whistle blowers, to the peril of children.
Amazing, they want me to apologize for saving children from abuse, ooops, as their GBC pedophile messiah's club allies say the same things. Whatever Kirtanananda says, they'll repeat it. And they said we are drunks and sahajiyas, ooops, just like their hero Kirtanananda's program.
OK fine, we have no credibility. Lets accept that. Who does have credibility?
OH I forgot, the HKC Jaipur people have been promoting the speaking of Radhanath's cheer leader Bhakta das. And promoting the writings of Bhavananda's bucket boy Hari Sauri -- that me and Sulochana are sahajiyas etc. Did I forget to mention there is apparent evidence (from the books of Henry Doktorski etc.) that Radhanath's program is responsible for a lot of crimes going on at New Vrndavana, including child abuse, and hunting down Sulochana to assassinate him.
Sounds like a great program to join and cheer lead! Worshiping homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs and hunting opponents, to kill them. And promoting the writer for the leaders of Asuchwitz for kids project. Very credible program there guys!
Wait a minute? You mean to say -- a program that has children worshiping an oral sex with boys messiah -- and orchestrates murders of dissenters, is credible -- and not us? Why are the homosexual and pedophile guru club's cheer leaders credible, at all? Hari Sauri has been writing defense of the Bhavananda guru club for years together. And Sulochana said they are painting us as drunks and sahajiyas to MAKE US TARGETS for assassination. And we were.
Then Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU says, the reason he is promoting the cheer leaders of the Radhanath and child molester messiah's project, a project which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills vaishnavas -- is: they oppose PADA. Well no duh, no kidding -- the promoters of pedophile guru programs will ALWAYS oppose the people who are exposing and suing that program.
Anyway, they lost me when they said -- our policy of saving children from abuse and even rape is not credible, whereas promoting the cheer leaders of an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiahs club are credible. Well, that is why we have to expose these perv lovers, and we have been all along.
So it should be noted: the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles has many assistants, cheer leaders, sycophants, handlers, enablers = de facto enforcers = and etc. Sorry, we do not think their program has credibility, and neither do the victims, the courts, or the media and so on. In sum, the child victims told me this is Auschwitz for kids, meanwhile these guys were saying we are destroying the golden body of Prabhupada, who do you think is correct?
ys pd
Dharmesh Sharma son of Shri Kirti Kumar Sharma, date of birth 22nd July 1969 currently residing at Plot No. 93, S1, Shivam Enclave, Gyan Vihar Colony, Jaipur -302019 hereafter referred to as the Settler propose to form a trust. The deed of the proposed trust is as follows. This trust shall be known by the name , “Hare Krishna Community, Jaipur” or in short “H.K.C , Jaipur.”
M Dasi: Pretty much ... what they tell me. You are against the GBC ... because you have no credibility. Who are you to question us? And that is how all the child abuse went on ... for decades.
ReplyDeleteNo one is allowed to ask any questions. And the people who ask are pushed back. Maybe killed. It is what they do. I agree, Auschwitz for children is something created by criminals. Anyone who helps them is also a criminal.
Not sure why this is too complicated for these devotees. Or are they actually Krishna devotees, or Satanic influence devotees, trying to ruin the devotees. And that starts ... by ruining their children.
This is not rocket science ... child abuse is criminal and anyone who helps the criminals is another criminal. Even the karmis know that.