Mathura Pati's "International Hare Krishna Movement" etc. 03 27 24

Saint Radhanath Pedo Lover's Club

PADA: Mathura Pati's new web site. 

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PADA: OK so Mathura Pati destroyed and discredited the Prabhupadanuga EU web site by promoting his pedophile messiah lover's club friends like -- Bhakta das, the promoter of the Gaudiya Math and Saint Radhanath. And he also promoted the HKC Jaipur guys -- who promoted Bhakta das and were citing sections of Bhavananda's bucket boy Hari Sauri's diary as their authority. 

And that means Mathura Pati folks are citing books made by servants of the Mayapur pedophile regime as their authority. And Sulochana said Hari Sauri is calling us sahajiyas -- to make us targets for assassination. And Mathura Pati folks are citing exactly that complaint against me and Sulochana, that we are sahajiyas, because Mathura Pati supports the people whose program murders dissenters to his pedophile guru club. 

Anyone who objects to Mathura Pati's pedophile guru club is in danger of being taken out, and that is why his friend Prahlad said he was sending my photo to the pedophile guru club goons to have me taken out. Yup. Anyone who objects to Mathura Pati's mass child molesting regime should be branded as a sahajiya, so they can become targets for assassination. And they did have Sulochana assassinated thereby. And that is why Radhanath is their saint.  

And then Mathura Pati was citing IRM's Krishna Kanta, who wanted PADA to make a deal with Jayapataka, the leader of their pedophile regime in Mayapur. And when we ask why he supports all this, then Mathura Pati just wanders off and starts another program -- without fixing the mess he made in his previous program. I don't know how the Prabhupadanuga EU web site ever recovers from all the destruction he made there, starting with him trying to make it a site for the Hitler-anugas when he originally took it over.

And the GBC guys do this all the time, they make a huge mess and then resign, wander off, start new web sites, and just act like they did nothing wrong. Mathura Pati is clearly a sympathizer with the pedophile messiahs project, and he even says that PADA should not have stopped their molesting victims from committing suicide, because -- at least as Sulochana said -- their program has to toss children into a wood chipper to make their program work. He is not a Prabhupadanuga, and he destroyed the Prabhupadanuga EU site, and is now trying to re-invent himself somewhere else.

And that is what many ISKCON deviant leaders do, they make a huge mess, wander off, and start a new program leaving behind a giant mess for someone else to clean up. ISKCON goonda tactics 2.0. The good news is, we have been exposing the molester messiahs project and its sympathizers for such a long time, we do not think it will gain much traction at this stage. 

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PRABHUPADANUGA EU

Mathura Pati: Nobody said directly Krishnas kids are stool that is your concoction.

PADA: You are quoting Bhakta das, and he said I am writing about [i.e. ISKCON's children] "stools." And that is because -- I am telling people to worship Srila Prabhupada and not pedophiles; stop the child abuse; print original books, and address Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint, which is "stools" for all of you Prabhupadanuga EU / GBC and / or Jayapataka groupies. We got that already. The pedophile messiah lover's club has always said we are writing "fake news" etc., which is how your mass molesting regime was covered up.  

As some of your ex-children victims said -- why are people [like Prabhupadanugas EU] saying PADA is writing about us [the children] and citing Bhakta das saying PADA is writing about stools [us children]. It does not matter if you said children are stools direct or not, that is what some of your victims assume you are saying. And since we are discussing children, and you are saying it is about stools, what else would anyone conclude? 

Your hero authority Bhakta says I am always writing about stools, while he promotes the Gaudiya Matha gurus and Saint Radhanath. You guys are still promoting Saint Radhanath, and you and your HKC friends are promoting Bhakta das, which means you are still hanging out with the Kirtanananda's cheer leader groupies. Why does Prabhupadanugas EU promote the Radhanath groupies? Isn't it because you want to have your homosexual and pedophile gurus buried in samadhi? 

MATHURA PATI: He said that your main mantra of preaching is stool.

PADA: Children are being molested, Prabhupada says he is poisoned, the books are changed, and you guys say all this is stool. Same thing some of the GBC folks say. So you are covering up for the GBC by saying these issues are stools. You are serving Judas, you are covering up crimes by saying it is all stools. Why do you want to help Judas by saying these problems are not significant? 

MATHURA PATI: We all are child eating asuras etc etc. 

PADA: Your victims have been taking their lives, so your program is causing children to die one way or other. You are a child sacrifice death cult, at least as some of your victims are saying you are. Sulochana said you guys are tossing children into a wood chipper, so what difference does it make how bad or good you are creating their departures? 

But as a matter of fact, there are some people saying that you guys are an actual child sacrifice cult that drinks blood, but I did not start that story off myself. However there are some people who believe that your program is a child sacrifice program. I didn't start that idea, but it is out there for sure.

MATHURA PATI: Man …… please go to some doctor. 

PADA: We have already done that. A number of child psychology persons have been involved with your cult's victims, and they agree -- your program causes children severe trauma.

MATHURA PATI: You are such a liar and fairytale writer that’s unbelievable.

PADA: Yep, that is what pedophiles and their enablers always say, there is no molesting -- it is all fairy tales. And that is why Sulochana said you people are boot lickers for the butt busters. Sorry, this is not fairytales, because if it was, then the police, media, FEDS, courts etc. would not be able to use any of my testimony. 

I was just interviewed again, and they explained that everything I say is run through their legal department, and my testimony has already been used in police reports, FED reports, media reports, books, TV shows and etc. and all of it was tested for accuracy already. If you can prove my testimony is not accurate, go ahead. If Mathura Pati can prove any single statement we made herein is not accurate, we will fix it -- if he has any actual proof. Good luck! ys pd 

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CP: In the spiritual world both the Lord and the living entities LIVE TOGETHER very peacefully. "Since the living entity remains engaged in the service of the Lord, they both share a blissful life in the spiritual world."

"However, WHEN the living entity WANTS to enjoy himself,
he falls down into the material world." (SB 4.28.54)

PADA: Correct, we originated in Krishna's association.

Note:

FIRST POSITION OF THE LIVING ENTITY:

Just as it is a real fact that the conditioned living entity is now living in this material world, in the same way it is also a real fact that previously this same living entity was living together with Krsna in the spiritual world. This is the initial first position, or original position of the living entity before his fall down to the material world:

"In the spiritual world both the Lord and the living entities LIVE TOGETHER very peacefully.

The term original means also the first, initial. It is something that was previously existing, or still exists, but it is the first, original, initial, or beginning,
before any change. For example: the original state of the house. The original inhabitants of America etc.

SECOND POSITION OF THE LIVING ENTITY: 

But later a change of position occurred in the living entity due to his desire to be independent. This is his secondary position, which occurs after his original or first position.

"However, WHEN the living entity WANTS to enjoy himself, he FALLS DOWN into the material world." (SB 4.28.54)

So the path back home for the fallen living entity is to become Krishna conscious, where he returns to his original position, and recovers his original lost state. He returns back home, back to his original home, back to Godhead, to live again with Krsna, in the company of Krsna, as the soul was at the beginning.

"We are still far away from our ORIGINAL home." (SB 4.28.54.Translation)

"The ORIGINAL home of the living entity and the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the spiritual world." (SB 4.28.54,purport)

"When the living entity FALLS DOWN into the material world, the Supreme Lord, through His svamsa expansion (Paramātmā), keeps COMPANY with the living entity. In this way, the living entity may some day RETURN home, BACK TO Godhead."(SB 4.28.53. Purport)

SB 4.28.54. Translation:

"My dear gentle friend, both you and I are exactly like two swans. We LIVE TOGETHER in the same heart, which is just like the Mānasa Lake. Although we have been LIVING TOGETHER for many thousands of years, we are still far away from our ORIGINAL home."

Purport: The ORIGINAL home of the living entity and the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the spiritual world. -- In the spiritual world both the Lord and the living entities LIVE TOGETHER very peacefully.

Since the living entity remains engaged in the service of the Lord, they both share a blissful life in the spiritual world. However, WHEN the living entity WANTS to enjoy himself, he FALLS DOWN into the material world. Even while he is in that position, the Lord remains with him as the Supersoul, his intimate friend.

Because of his FORGETFULNESS , the living entity does not know that the Supreme Lord is ACCOMPANYING him as the Supersoul. In this way the living entity remains conditioned in each and every millennium.

Although the Lord follows him as a friend, the living entity, because of FORGETFUL material existence, does not RECOGNIZE Him.

Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/4/28/54

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Excerpt from a well-known letter from Srila Prabhupada (Nov. 18, 1972)- 

"If a child is trained properly in Krishna Consciousness, he will never go away. That means he must have two things, love and education. So if there is beating of child, that will be difficult for him to accept in loving spirit, and when he is old enough he may want to go away—that is the danger. So why these things are going on _ marching and chanting japa, insufficient milk, too strict enforcement of time schedules, hitting the small children? Why these things are being imposed? Why they are inventing these such new things like marching and japa like army? What can I do from such a distant place? They should run and play when they are small children, not forced to chant japa, that is not the way. So I have given you the guiding principles..."

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“THE GREAT SINISTER MOVEMENT IS WITHIN OUR SOCIETY(Cont.) 

On the other hand, we note how Srila Prabhupada spoke of Christianity, and how that may be what will happen to ISKCON as well: "Now, after taking instruction from Christ, first of all they killed Christ. That means they could not understand the instruction. Therefore their first business was to kill the instructor. And after that, two thousand years passed, still they are killing. So when they have accepted the teachings of Lord Christ?" (SPConv, 1975, Perth) 

Can we see the parallel? Hopefully this is not ISKCON’s long-term fate. ISKCON was hijacked by low-minded men who mercilessly poisoned Srila Prabhupada and conspired to sit on his seat, stealing the assets of the Movement under the unshastric theory that they were the best men to continue with the initiating of spiritual seekers and to manage the sacred mission. They initially lied that they had been appointed as successor acharyas and hoodwinked their Godbrothers into worshipping them as pure devotees.

PUT THEM IN JAIL? AND THEN ALL DONE? 

For many persons, perhaps most, when the poison matter is raised, they think in terms of obtaining justice in a mundane court of law, seeing the poisoning as simply a mundane crime that should be punished. But it should be understood that there are some issues and types of justice which lie beyond the jurisdiction of mundane courts and law. 

For example, in the court of Yamaraja (punishment after death) the poisoning of a pure devotee warrants a far heavier punishment than the poisoning of an ordinary man, whereas modern courts treat all men equally. Mundane courts do not consider animal killing a crime either, although with some rather strange exceptions for so-called “inhumane cruelty.” 

True justice will be by the laws of Manu or God, not via defective, legislated mundane arrangements. But today there are no courts administered on this planet according to Vedic culture and the laws of Manu. 

The many years since 1977 create a substantial challenge for initiating a legal case, criminal or civil, in mundane courts, but this means little to the mechanism of divine justice where every detail and action is completely recorded in the subtle ethereal Akashic record. 

Since we have no access to the Akashic record, our determinations of all person’s guilt in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada will be imperfect. Still, if some degree of mundane justice is obtained, that would be good, and we should always take advantage when the mundane society supports the cause of our transcendental mission. But there are much greater concerns at hand than just sending some poisoners to prison. We should not be so obsessed with whether the evidence we have uncovered is court admissible or whether convictions for murder can be achieved. 

If these do come about, it will be very satisfying to those who have a strong sense of mundane justice, but this will do little to put Srila Prabhupada’s mission back on the straight and narrow course that he had fought so hard to establish. The best aim is to restore the mission to its original purity.

We determined in Part 9 that Tamal was involved in Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning beyond a reasonable doubt. Other living suspects must be confronted (and dead ones investigated further): “Either submit to full cooperative interviews or go away.” If those interviews determine complicity, then they must make full amends or go away. We are far more interested in the restoration of the mission than we are simply after court convictions. 

What good will it do to expel a few poisoners, then leaving the movement as it is after those poisoners corrupted and deviated it for decades? Book Two explores that subject more deeply.

Finally, anyone having any pertinent or relevant information of any sort should pass it to us. Also any constructive advise, clarifications, corrections, typos, additions, deletions are welcome. Thank you for being among Srila Prabhupada’s followers who want to establish the truth about Srila Prabhupada’s glorious disappearance pastimes and the restoration of his transcendental mission." (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories,1.701)