Our soul is missing something?
This is what it is!
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CAN'T GET TO THE FOOD BANK
PADA: My friend works at a Food Bank, and he says after they cut food stamps the Food Bank is overwhelmed with orders from poor people. First of all, they do not have enough food now, they are short on donations.
Worse! A number of the poor are now calling the food bank begging for the donations to be delivered, because they cannot afford $6.75 gasoline to get there. Is this a plan to starve out the poor to get rid of them? People are starting to wonder, why is this going on? What is the plan? ys pd
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Sundar Nitai Dasa
ISKCON in Context: Bhakti Cāru Swami’s Response to the Guru System
In August 1980, less than three years after Śrīla Prabhupāda’s departure, Bhakti Cāru Swami and other devotees approached Śrīla B.R. Śrīdhara Mahārāja to discuss the situation developing within ISKCON.
One of their central questions was whether Śrīla Prabhupāda had actually appointed the eleven ṛtviks as successor gurus.
He acknowledged that the ṛtviks could initiate on Prabhupāda’s behalf, but raised the unresolved question of what should happen after Prabhupāda’s departure:
His concerns extended beyond the original appointments. He also described dissatisfaction with how some gurus were exercising their authority and the effect this was having on devotees. Bhakti Cāru spoke of disciples leaving ISKCON because they could no longer tolerate the situation. He explained that devotees were seeking guidance and hoping that the problems could be rectified.
Source: "August 1980 conversation with Śrīla B.R. Śrīdhara Mahārāja"
PADA: This guy writes a lot of interesting pieces and he gets into some important history, unfortunately, he blocks making comments. But yeah Bhakti Caru knew something was terribly amiss right out of the gate. But then he surrendered to their process, to get a post for himself.
ISKCON Temple of the Holy Name, the home of Sri Sri Parama Karuna Nitai Gaurasundara is a Temple within
ISKCON in Context: Bhakti Cāru Swami’s Response to the Guru System
In August 1980, less than three years after Śrīla Prabhupāda’s departure, Bhakti Cāru Swami and other devotees approached Śrīla B.R. Śrīdhara Mahārāja to discuss the situation developing within ISKCON.
One of their central questions was whether Śrīla Prabhupāda had actually appointed the eleven ṛtviks as successor gurus.
Bhakti Cāru stated:
“Actually, one of the questions is that whether Prabhupāda really appointed them as Guru. Because so far we didn't find enough proof to confirm that.”
He acknowledged that the ṛtviks could initiate on Prabhupāda’s behalf, but raised the unresolved question of what should happen after Prabhupāda’s departure:
“But after Prabhupāda left, who will initiate Prabhupāda did not clearly mention. This doubt is coming up now.”
His concerns extended beyond the original appointments. He also described dissatisfaction with how some gurus were exercising their authority and the effect this was having on devotees. Bhakti Cāru spoke of disciples leaving ISKCON because they could no longer tolerate the situation. He explained that devotees were seeking guidance and hoping that the problems could be rectified.
This conversation provides a contemporary record of uncertainty about Prabhupāda’s instructions, dissatisfaction with the emerging guru system, and concern about its consequences for the movement.
It does not settle every question about Prabhupāda’s intentions, but it documents the doubts and objections being expressed at the time. The purpose of this investigation is to understand what devotees questioned, what they experienced, and how the situation developed—not to find fault with individuals.
Source: "August 1980 conversation with Śrīla B.R. Śrīdhara Mahārāja"
PADA: This guy writes a lot of interesting pieces and he gets into some important history, unfortunately, he blocks making comments. But yeah Bhakti Caru knew something was terribly amiss right out of the gate. But then he surrendered to their process, to get a post for himself.
OK he sold his soul to Satan to get temporary opulence and worship. The GBC wanted to make me the guru of Ireland so I would sell my soul to them. Well there are devotees who think Satan already owns my soul, and maybe he does, but it is not for sale to the GBC's gurus, hands off my soul you bogus messiahs, fer sure! At least Satan is honest, he opposes God and admits.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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HANSADUTTA UPDATE
PADA: Well after Hansadutta declared that Kirtananda is the only pure devotee on the planet, and he cleaned out the Berkeley temple to send everyone to New Vrndavana, shortly after that Sulochana went down. Yuvati called the law enforcement guys and targeted Tirtha as the hit man, and he was arrested -- but he was seen in Berkeley doing surveillance on my pick up truck -- according to officer Joe Sanchez.
HANSADUTTA UPDATE
PADA: Well after Hansadutta declared that Kirtananda is the only pure devotee on the planet, and he cleaned out the Berkeley temple to send everyone to New Vrndavana, shortly after that Sulochana went down. Yuvati called the law enforcement guys and targeted Tirtha as the hit man, and he was arrested -- but he was seen in Berkeley doing surveillance on my pick up truck -- according to officer Joe Sanchez.
They told me "you are next" and they wanted to send me to Kansas. Then a few days after Sulochana went down, I was confronted near the temple by three enforcers from New Vrndavana who were sent to "take me on a friendly picnic in the country." The Berkeley PD had been tipped off by the FEDS, who were tapping Hansadutta's phone, that they were coming for me, to take me away.
And they had two cars with undercover guys inside following me around, and they yelled into their car loud speaker, everyone freeze. In other words, after I saved Hans from being taken out by a disgruntled husband whose wife he was stooping, Hans decided to thank me by sending me to the morgue. Thanks a lot dude!
Later on he came back to Berkeley and was all smiley with me, "oh yeah we all went crazy didn't we"? He tried to make a joke out of sending people here to take me out. I think he has now found out that the higher authority is not laughing and he is in a heap of trouble. But yeah, the Berkeley PD said to me, the Krishna's won't eat a cow, but they will eat you for lunch. And they would have ate you for lunch if we were not around. Eric Johanson at the time was joining the Bhaktipada people saying me and Sulochana are drunks and not following, which Sulochana said -- was done -- to mark us as targets -- to make us look bad -- to take us out. Sulochana was 100% right. ys pd
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ISKCON TEMPLE OF THE HOLY NAME (POSTED NOTICE) (pg 1)
ISKCON TEMPLE OF THE HOLY NAME (POSTED NOTICE) (pg 1)
Our Position
ISKCON Temple of the Holy Name, the home of Sri Sri Parama Karuna Nitai Gaurasundara is a Temple within
The International Society for Krishna Caonciousness, as established by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Founder Acharya . We are loyal to, preach from, promote the (illegally changed) books of and espouse the teachings of His Divine Grace Srila Pabhupada. (When it suits us)
We serve within the greater ISKCON direction of the ISKCON Governing Body Commission (GBC). (Even though Srila Prabhupāda was adamant that each center should manage it’s self and that the GBC was only to make sure the rules, regs and standards were being followed)
Reason for the Policy
It is recognized that spiritual movements will inevitably develop many branches over time, particulcularly after the passing of the Founding Acharya. Since the physical departure of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupāda, we have seen a number of devotees join groups associated with the Gaudiya Math or other Vaisnava groups, as well as those following “alternative” philosophies regarding disciplic succession. ("ie" Follows the July 9th directive)
Policies will be sent to all community members via email (unless we don’t like you) and hard copy will be posted in the Tulasi room. (We will type this up after we finish our nightly TV program-S.J.)
Our Goal
Although our community may have philosophical and organizational diversity, our goal is to exist peacefully with all elements (This temple is not meant to be a public place for the whole world, only who we choose). However, to preserve the purposes of ISKCON, certain policy standards regarding activities on Temple Property (That we stole from the owner who is a Ritvik by voting him out so we could incorporate under ISKCON, and therefore could collect big donations). need to be clarified. (We do not go by the July 9th, 1977 final direction by Srila Prabhupāda of keeping him as the only Diksa Guru and those that follow Srila Prabhupāda in this regard will be excommunicated like how we did to Anda Bahya and her Husband).
(We only follow the 11 fallen gurus that usurped his post and the fake chain of succession that followed, because eh, we can).
Welcome Activities
TAKE DARSHAN
ATTEND CLASSES (Either given by a pedophile or mentally Ill demon's who don't like Srila Prabhupada’s original books and banns them)
ATTEND PROGRAMS (Take a feast that may be offered to Krishna first because Srila Prabhupāda didn’t know you can go directly to Krishna even though he set it up to always go through the Spiritual Master and he offers to his Spiritual Master up the chain to Krishna).
ATTEND KIRTANS (But if you do not follow the current gurus, do not try to lead when and if you are the only Vaishnava in the room, otherwise you will be quashed by an unfriendly priest, if a drunk or Karmie enters the room, you must ask them to lead, they are much better devotees than you, and do not try to offer Tulsi Puja unless there is no one else to offer it, as usual)
OFFER SERVICES (You may be the only one willing and able to do it, because all the “Good” devotees can’t be bothered). (The camaraderie is high, even though we only come if and when there is Prasad and we spend a lot of time discussing those bad devotees who strictly follow everything Srila Prabhupāda taught).
Services
Services will be appointed and approved by Temple Management, which consists of Suddha Jiva dasa, Mamata Dasi and Madan Mohan Mohini Dasi. Temple Managers may require participants to fill out an ISKCON application before engaging in the following services. (Application and or screening may also be required when devotees are coming to stay overnight on the property) (But, we do not check if you are a Pedophile, that would be fine). (Do not try to screen us though you may find out how some of us abused the children in the past by being their teachers and handymen).
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GIVING CLASSES (But only if you use the illegally changed books and do not mention anything controversial that Srila Prabhupāda said).
OFFERING WORSHIP (But, only if you bow to the GBC and all their rules).
LEADING KIRTAN (But only if you are a strict follower of the GBC or a Hindu who may eat meat and worship demigods and NOT one of those filthy, GM or Ritviks who are vegatarians chanting 16 rounds and following all the regs).
RESTRICTED ACTIVITIES
No persons shall be allowed to engage in the following activities on the Temple grounds and property:
Promote beliefs, personalities or organizations that are not directly endorsed by ISKCON and its representatives or unduly criticize ISKCON and its authorities. (You must only promote the changed books and the fallen gurus Prabhus, got it? How many of those do we have? only about 80 that is not that much why bother yourself researching that stuff?
Yes, they fell down into pedophilia, prostitutes, drugs, murder stealing money, SRA and other light weight things, don't listen to those who are envious of them). (Such personalities that you may not be allowed to associate with, because it is our business are senior disciples of Srila Prabhupāda that were very close servants like Govinda Dasi, Yasodanandana Das, Ishan Das and Damaghosh Das).
Distribute literature that promote such beleifs. (You will fall down if you read how cadmium was tested by professional forensics and found in Srila Prabhupada's hair samples that are 400 times the amount that would kill a normal person).
Influence guests or devotees in the above beliefs/criticisms.
Influence guests or devotees in the above beliefs/criticisms.
This includes inviting congregational members to attend their functions and or join their groups. (Mostly we can control you because we know that you don't want to be banned). (Of course you can go to the Ritviks Ashram and be in a in a safe space where no politics are discussed and you can get close up darshan of 21 Silas and be exposed to the original Shakta Vesha Avatar's books that are well taken care of. That is why you must stay away from these rotten influences that may open your eyes to what Srila Prabhupāda really wanted).
CONSEQUENCES
(You knew they were coming, don't be naive). Anyone in violation of this policy will be asked to leave the Temple Property. (Unless maybe we can squeeze a few more farthings out of you for our beautiful show cows). If any residents of the community are found to be involved in any of the above restricted activities, which includes offensive online posts. (Like this one for example) Such persons can be banned from attending the Temple for an indefinite period of time.
(Or Excommunicated like our monkey on the sticks Anda and Jiva. Although Srila Prabhupada never did that, nor would he if you are exposing cheaters and demons, that he always told us TO do). (Funny thing is that they excommunicated us, then let us do all sorts of services because the congregation was not willing to cope with them.
Funnily enough we were doing the seva that the others were to far above to do, like making garlands, shopping for the kitchen weekly, doing repairs, shoveling manure, trimming Tulsi''s Manjaris everyday. Attending Mangal Aarti and Guru Puja daily, we were mostly the only ones that went everyday for 10 months, then one demon started after us saying that the others do not come to Mangal Arati because we attend. So, we stopped going so they could go, guess what 2 years later and they still never go. (But I regress)
(It makes you automatically envious when you try to follow Srila Prabhupāda the way he wanted us to, therefor we are the envious ones-against Srila Prabhupāda himself).
See .4.8.7 Envious Acts against ISKCON
A person who uses a public speech, published writings, or other media of social communication to blaspheme, or to seriously damage the good faith of ISKCON members and associates, or who tries to stir up hatred or contempt against ISKCON or the GBC is to be corrected with a just remedial measure. (The truth is that the Ritviks are trying to return things back to Srila Prabhupāda, not keep drifting further and further away from what he taught us).
CONCLUSION
In making this policy statement, we are in no way denying the freedom of thought (hahaha) and speech of any person. We respect the individuals's rights to other philosophical positions. However, we are upholding the purpose of the Temple of the Holy Name property and projects, which is to promote Srila Prabhupada's teaching (We secretly know that is not true, how can it be when there are 5000 changes to his Srimad-Bagavad Gita) as enunciated by the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) under the direction of the Governing Body Commission.
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NARAYAN MAHARAJA
I see that so many devotees now want to come and hear hari-kathā, but due to their weakness of mind they allow themselves to be led. Those who try to control them are acting against Vaishnava etiquette and are committing a grave offense. If someone invites people to come and hear hari-kathā, and someone else warns them not to do so, then that person commits the most serious offense.
PADA: Great, now the GBC gurus who are forbidding people to visit Narayan Maharaja are offenders, after he was giving them gopi rasika classes.
Neither in history, nor in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, the Mahābhārata, nor the Rāmāyaṇa have we ever seen Vaiṣṇavas behave like this. So this poison is being spread now. You should know that the one who spreads this poison is not even a Vaiṣṇava, let alone a qualified Guru.
PADA: Except Narayan Maharaja people ban the ritviks? They are infuriated when people worship pure devotees, and NM calls us "ritvik poison" -- because we did not promote his homosexual and pedophile guru society pals like Tamal. Bhagavan is still a NM groupie now and he says the ritvivks are bogus, but Tamal's cheer leader has been authorized.
If a so-called Guru gives such an order, he must absolutely be rejected. We are followers of Kṛṣṇa-bhakti. When we see someone who is qualified to give us that Kṛṣṇa-bhakti, then we must hear from him. Bhakti is not bound by sectarian limitations. Wherever a bona fide Vaiṣṇava speaks about Hari-kathā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, we must definitely go there to hear from him.
PADA: Except if he promotes a pure devotee like Srila Prabhupada, then he is ritvik poison.
If such a Vaiṣṇava is present and we do not go to hear from him, then we commit an offense. Thus the explanation of the śāstra has been changed. Actually, the explanation itself has not changed, but the mentality of those who try to give it has. Therefore I think that you should not follow these false instructions, regardless of who gives them. Even if your Guru says this, you must reject it. This is Vaishnava etiquette.
PADA: NM invited me to his ashram to talk, and he left me sitting from 830 AM to 530 PN without seeing me, then he sneaked out the back door and left the property. Even the hamburger eating people know that is terrible etiquette.
So listen attentively and take all of this to heart. Try to apply everything you hear in your life. If there is anything you do not understand or realize, you can ask one of the Vaiṣṇavas for an explanation, or you can come to me. I will try to help, without any discrimination based on caste or creed. The devotees of Mahā-puruṣa are not bound by sectarian values or limited by boundaries or walls; on the contrary, they are for the entire world. Just as Kṛṣṇa belongs to the whole world, so do the Vaiṣṇavas. If someone creates sectarianism in the name of spiritual life, then he is doing so without any reference to sadhu, śāstra, or Guru.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Gosvamī Mahārāja.
Malaysia. February 1, 1998.
Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Gosvamī Mahārāja.
Malaysia. February 1, 1998.
PADA: Saying the ritviks are poison is making them targets for banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassination. That is the plan is it not? ys pd
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RUPA GOSWAMI
Verse 60–61
When will Dhaniṣṭhā, seeing you from afar, hasten to joyfully accompany you, in my presence, to Nandīśvara, the magnificent residence of the king of Vraja? That glorious abode, surrounded by affectionate gopīs, resounds with the mooing of cows, the animated voices of the shepherds, and the praises of the skilled bard. Most beloved by the prince of Vraja and revered by all his inhabitants, it is considered even more exalted than the hill of Govardhana.
Verse 62
Oh, You, so kind and gracious! When will I immerse myself in an ocean of happiness while washing Your auspicious feet of lotus, enter the kitchen, offer respectful reverences to the queen of Vraja and to the other gopīs, and prepare an exquisite feast of nectarous delicacies?
Verse 63
Oh, Divine Queen! When will I be able to behold You with my head respectfully bowed and Your radiant face, while You glance at me with a loving gaze, and Your concerned mother embraces me affectionately, before You enter the forests to fulfill Your commitment to protect the flocks of cows surabhi?
Verse 66
Oh, You, with a beautiful face and a modest heart! When will I experience joy in my heart to see You happily enjoying a meal in the company of Your dear friends and the queen of Vraja, who showers You with affection that surpasses that of countless millions of mothers, in accordance with the loving promise You have made?
Verse 67
Oh, You, whose restless eyes resemble the graceful khañjana birds! When will I celebrate in my heart a magnificent festival of transcendental happiness by beholding how the queen of Vraja loves You as if You were her own newlywed daughter, embracing You, kissing Your head, and bestowing tender and affectionate glances upon You?
Verse 68
Oh, my dear friend Śrī Rūpa Mañjarī! When will I be able to follow you as you lovingly guide our Queen, Śrī Rādhikā, whose arm, like a delicate tangle, rests on yours, and whose very being has become the stage where the waves of divine playful love unfold, toward the secluded hill of Govardhana, where the Lord Madhusūdana, the most outstanding among those who master the art of playful jests, blocks your path with the pretext of demanding payment for a toll?
Verse 69
Oh, my dear friend! When will I feel filled with pride to behold how the Lord Mukunda, drawn by a breeze carrying the exquisite fragrance of Your slender figure, leaves, with some pretext, the bed of pastimes covered with jasmine, which Candrāvalī has prepared with her own hands, and, like a black bee irresistibly drawn by a fragrant lotus, hastens to meet you on the shores of the lake?
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RUPA GOSWAMI
Verse 60–61
When will Dhaniṣṭhā, seeing you from afar, hasten to joyfully accompany you, in my presence, to Nandīśvara, the magnificent residence of the king of Vraja? That glorious abode, surrounded by affectionate gopīs, resounds with the mooing of cows, the animated voices of the shepherds, and the praises of the skilled bard. Most beloved by the prince of Vraja and revered by all his inhabitants, it is considered even more exalted than the hill of Govardhana.
Verse 62
Oh, You, so kind and gracious! When will I immerse myself in an ocean of happiness while washing Your auspicious feet of lotus, enter the kitchen, offer respectful reverences to the queen of Vraja and to the other gopīs, and prepare an exquisite feast of nectarous delicacies?
Verse 63
Oh, Divine Queen! When will I be able to behold You with my head respectfully bowed and Your radiant face, while You glance at me with a loving gaze, and Your concerned mother embraces me affectionately, before You enter the forests to fulfill Your commitment to protect the flocks of cows surabhi?
Verse 66
Oh, You, with a beautiful face and a modest heart! When will I experience joy in my heart to see You happily enjoying a meal in the company of Your dear friends and the queen of Vraja, who showers You with affection that surpasses that of countless millions of mothers, in accordance with the loving promise You have made?
Verse 67
Oh, You, whose restless eyes resemble the graceful khañjana birds! When will I celebrate in my heart a magnificent festival of transcendental happiness by beholding how the queen of Vraja loves You as if You were her own newlywed daughter, embracing You, kissing Your head, and bestowing tender and affectionate glances upon You?
Verse 68
Oh, my dear friend Śrī Rūpa Mañjarī! When will I be able to follow you as you lovingly guide our Queen, Śrī Rādhikā, whose arm, like a delicate tangle, rests on yours, and whose very being has become the stage where the waves of divine playful love unfold, toward the secluded hill of Govardhana, where the Lord Madhusūdana, the most outstanding among those who master the art of playful jests, blocks your path with the pretext of demanding payment for a toll?
Verse 69
Oh, my dear friend! When will I feel filled with pride to behold how the Lord Mukunda, drawn by a breeze carrying the exquisite fragrance of Your slender figure, leaves, with some pretext, the bed of pastimes covered with jasmine, which Candrāvalī has prepared with her own hands, and, like a black bee irresistibly drawn by a fragrant lotus, hastens to meet you on the shores of the lake?
