Radharani Celebrated / Documents Hidden / Poison Issue / Jadurani etc. 09 19 26

Rādhā Kṛpā Kaṭākṣa Stotram

TRANSLATION

O goddess worshiped by the kings of sages, O goddess who remove the sufferings of the three worlds, O goddess whose face is a blossoming lotus, O goddess who enjoy pastimes in the forest, O daughter of Vṛṣabhānu, O companion of Vraja's prince, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess staying in a vine-cottage by an aśoka tree, O goddess whose delicate feet are as splendid as red blossoms, O goddess whose hand grants fearlessness, O abode of transcendental opulences, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess who, playfully shooting the arrows of Your glances from the curved bows of Your auspicious, amorous eyebrows, have completely subdued Nanda's son [Kṛṣṇa], when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess whose form is as splendid as campaka flowers, gold, and lightning, O goddess whose face eclipses millions of autumn moons, O goddess whose eyes are wonderful, restless young cakora birds, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O young girl intoxicated with passion, O goddess decorated with cheerful jealous anger, O goddess who passionately love Your beloved Kṛṣṇa, O goddess learned in playful arts, O goddess expert at enjoying amorous pastimes in the kingdom of the peerlessly opulent forest groves of Vṛndāvana, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess decorated with a pearl necklace of bold amorous hints, O goddess as fair as gold, O goddess whose breasts are great golden waterpots, O ocean of happiness filled with the scented powders of gentle smiles, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess whose arms are lotus stalks dancing on the waves, O goddess whose dark eyes are dancing vines, O playful, beautiful, charming goddess, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess who wear a golden necklace on the three-lined conchshell of Your neck, O goddess splendid with three jasmine garlands and three jeweled necklaces, O goddess whose moving locks of dark hair are decorated with bunches of flowers, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess who wear a sash of flowers on Your curved hips, O goddess charming with a sash of tinkling jeweled bells, O goddess whose beautiful thighs punish the regal elephant's trunk, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess whose anklets' tinkling is more beautiful than the sounds of many mantras and the cooing of many regal swans, O goddess whose graceful motions mock the moving golden vines, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O goddess worshiped by Brahmā, O goddess to whom countless millions of Vaiṣṇavas bow down, O goddess who give blessings to Pārvatī, Śacī, and Sarasvatī, O goddess whose toenails are anointed with limitless opulences and mystic perfections, when will You cast Your merciful sidelong glance upon me?

O queen of Vedic sacrifices, O queen of pious activities, O queen of the material world, O queen of the demigods, O queen of Vedic scholarship, O queen of knowledge, O queen of the goddesses of fortune, O queen of patience, O queen of Vṛndāvana, the forest of happiness, O queen of Vraja, O empress of Vraja, O Śrī Rādhikā, obeisances to You!

Upon hearing this most astonishing prayer of mine being recited by a devotee, may Śrī Vṛṣabhānu-nandinī constantly make him the object of Her most merciful sidelong glance. At that time all his karmic reactions — whether mature, fructifying, or lying in seed — will be completely destroyed, and then he will gain entrance into the assembly of Nandanandana's eternal loving associates.

If a sādhaka with purified intelligence recites this stava with a fixed mind on the lunar days known as the full-moon day, the bright aṣṭamī, the daśamī, the ekādaśī, and the trayodaśī, then each and every one of his desires will be fulfilled, one by one. And by the merciful sidelong glance of Śrī Rādhā he will obtain devotional service that has the special symptom of being imbued with pure, ecstatic love of God (prema).

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WHY WERE ALL OF SRILA PRABHPHUPADA's IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS HIDDEN AND SUPPRESSED?


PADA: The May tape, the letters, the July 9th letter, the will, the DOM and all sorts of other items were hidden by the GBC. Sulochana had to bribe an archives devotee to get the May tape and the letters, but that was in 1985. Sulochana was the fist person to make a transcript. And a GBC guru said to him, you will be "dead meat on a hook" if you continue to distribute these items. And then the Lokanath program's GBC enforcers came here to take him out. And he was taken out for exposing the May tape, the mass child mistreatment etc. I would have been taken out but the FEDS saved me. So yeah, the GBC hid the May tape and we all know why, it says future initiations will be made by ritviks. But the fact they have to eliminate people who distributed the May tape shows us what kind of suppression was going on. I also had to get "the will" from Hansadutta's safe, we did not have it. So yes, these documents were not being circulated and the reason they had us hunted for elimination is, we were publishing them and they wanted these documents to remain hidden. But I would like to thank AVmdas personally for justifying my going to the courts, media and law enforcement and exposing the GBC over and over in TV shows, books, Time Magazine, New York Times, Rolling Stone Magazine, Monkey on a Stick books and movies, news articles etc. He explained that Lokanath and his compadres are not responsible for the welfare of the children in their program, and that is why we had to expose the mass child mistreatment using the courts, media and law enforcement to protect me from the Lokanath mass child mistreatment program. Of course Lokanath also has had his hands in a little girl's cookie jar, no wonder he does not want to expose his predator mates.

They are also not responsible for making samadhis of predators, so we had to expose that too. That means they are agreeing de facto, we have had no other option other than to sue them, expose them in mass media, and seek shelter of the FEDS. Lokanath was not even going to protect children, why would he protect me? But yeah finding and publishing these documents is a peril to one's life, as we are personal eye witness. And that is why the FEDS wanted to move me to Kansas and give me a new name and hide me from ISKCON's leaders. Same thing with the November tapes, we did not have them. I got them in 1997. When I said I was going to publish them, my friends said -- don't do it -- or you will be in the morgue in 24 hours. So the GBC folks answered their own question, why these documents were not known? They were hidden, and anyone finding them and publishing them was being eliminated, to send a message, do not publish these Srila Prabhupada statments documents -- or else! Srila Prabhupada said there is a sinister movement within my movement, no wonder they did not want these letters exposed. Sulochana told me he has to go to Los Angeles because if we are together in Berkeley, they will take both of us out, one of us needs to survive to tell the story. He was right, they did send three enforcers here right after they took out Sulochana to take me out, but a gurukuli girl called the FEDS and saved me from being eliminated. Why were these documents suppressed? We all know why, they want to suppress Srila Prabhupada, not just us, ys pd

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POISON ISSUE

They are whispering about intentional p*isoning him. It is all on tape. The whispers have been authenticated by three separate professional audio forensic labs. The Gainesville FBI said if this crime had taken place in the USA, they would have made it a felony crime and charged the culprits. They believe the evidence points to a homicide. The FBI are convinced by the evidence. Srila Prabhupada says I need to get out of this room because Ravana will k*ll me here. Etc. He says someone is giving me p*ison, and someone is, and that someone is the Ravana party. Sorry, there is a lot of info you are ignoring here. But the Truth Labs in India are professional forensic folks and they made a package of all the evidence and they said, this is a homicide. I trust the professionals and not the armchair side experts. Of course I also said there is mass child mistreatment going on in 1979, no one believed me, because the devotees as a group have little discrimination on what is a crime and what is not. I cannot trust their judgement. The Bengali man who transcribed the tape for me said, this is a homicide, that was his interpretation of the tape and so it is for a number of other native speakers. A Brijabasi friend of Srila Prabhupada also told me this is a homicide when I played the tape to him. He was a personal friend of Srila Prabhupada and he was crying. The devotees for the most part never cry, they want to defend their friends, just like they defended their friends on the mass child mistreatment. ys pd

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Patita Pavana Das

COMMENT FROM MOTHER Govinda Dasi

Patita Pavana Das A very good point. Srila Prabhupada no longer trusted those around him. Later I heard about the statements from some Ramanandi sadhus who came to visit him near his departure time. They described that Srila Prabhupada was weeping, and that in Hindi he was saying, “I have failed in my mission. They dont listen to me anymore, your guru is fortunate that he has not had his mission taken over by foreigners!”

The Ramanandi sadhus said he was like trapped king being carted around by his captors. And he no longer wished to be a part of their circus. In times past, Kings kept a vial of poison in a ring on their fingers for such situations.

So it is not that someone poisoned Srila Prabhupada—yes, they did. But it was his choice to leave. He was heartbroken and disgusted. The Ramanandis reassured him, “No no, Srila Prabhupada, you have not failed in your mission. You should not weep, please go in peace.” This is a more valid perspective.

Even Prabhupada often said his Guru Maharaj was disgusted and left earlier than planned. So many statements are there like that. And he was heartbroken that he called his disciples to come to Vrindaban, but the leaders ordered everyone not to come. But my husband at the time, Gupta prabhu, went in October anyway. He told me it was like a horror story.

Such great souls have connections in very high places….they come from the spiritual world. And Srila Prabhupada came from the spiritual world “to establish some forms of worship for subhuman species” as one astrologer described. We are the subhumans

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GOVINDA DASI WRITES

JADURANI BEATEN UP INCIDENTS

The essence of this is indeed true. And I also am a witness to much of this since I was in Los Angeles at that time. Jadurani could immediately see through the fraudulent “acharyas” and indeed she did convince Rameshvar to remove his throne from the temple room. She was sincerely trying to rescue the mission.
Then she planned to fly to New Vrindaban to speak to the rest of the so called instant acharyas. I went to her room, sat on her trunk, and begged her, “Jadurani, please dont do this. You cant stop it. This is like a disease that has to run its course.” I knew it would be dangerous. But she didnt listen. She went anyway and was almost murdered there.

Only because some devotees came along, hearing her screams was she saved.
Then, of course, the agents of Kali took full control of Srila Prabhupada’s mission and destroyed it. This is the real history. Let me say this is not a new story. It has happened before.

Let us look at the history of Christian teachings, and what happened in that time period. Actually Srila Prabhupada often spoke very highly of Jesus Christ, and in many ratha yatra talks he mentioned that Jesus indeed did study in India. That has also been proven by scholars and historians, that Jesus traveled to India during the years from age 12 to 30, then he returned to do his ministry. And was crucified.

In fact, from the Dead Sea Scrolls and other early artifacts it has been proven that the early teachings of Jesus were in fact very similar to the authentic Vedic teachings. Jesus is also mentioned in the Bhavishya Purana when he took shelter in Kashmir, Northern India.

This information was indeed suppressed by the church institution for many years, and even the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in 1945 were not welcome well into the 1990s. The church institutions did not want this information known. Especially the Catholic church opposed the release of such information.

But quite amazingly Srila Prabhupada was always quite aware of the authenticity of Jesus and his travels in India, and even made comments like, Your Jesus Christ was very much fond of Lord Jagannatha so He has come to your country.” (Check the rathayatra lectures for more on this)

But Christianity’s authentic teachings were derailed early on by Paul, a Jewish / Roman government agent who rewrote the teachings of Christ, and misled the disciples in various ways. This is even called “Paulism” by scholars. Much has also been written about this. Governments do not take kindly to radical religious movements.

Now in a very similar way, our original teachings given by Srila Prabhupada have been rewritten completely—shortly after Srila Prabhpada left this world—without the knowledge of his many disciples. Then these bowdlerized teachings were printed into books and Prabhupada’s name was placed on them, as if he had written them himself.

These rewritten books DO NOT even sound like the original teachings of Srila Prabhupada, but the BBTii —the illegal corporation that consumed the BBT trust created by Prabhupada in 1972—has created elaborate propaganda and deception. By this they have misled thousands of people to believe these are actually Srila Prabhupada’s teachings.

Meantime the corporate directors of BBTii feast off the proceeds of the cashcow of Prabhupada’s books, and use the free labor of innocent youths to distribute them. It is a sad situation. Srila Prabhupada never taught karmakanda, yet you may wonder where all the “self-help gurus” have come from. These bastardized books do NOT teach pure Krishna bhakti, rather they teach diluted impersonal and cheap yogic techniques for rising by one’s own efforts. Pure Krishna bhakti teaches surrender to Krishna—not self-help methods.

As I said, governments do not take kindly to religious missions, especially those that draw in thousands of youth away from the plans of their affluent parents.
So very obviously the Iskcon mission was infiltrated by agents in the 70s and immediately after Srila Prabhupada’s very untimely demise, a few of these agents went to work very quickly to destroy the mission and rewrite the teachings.

The eleven grand “acharyas”destroyed the faith of thousands, and meantime the books were quietly rewritten behind closed doors. Then in 1983 they were presented to the world, and every effort has been made since then to destroy all evidence of the original and authentic teachings of Srila Prabhupada, the true Vedic teachings.

Yes. Courtcases, lawsuits, harrassment is only one part of it. They do not want these teachings to survive. Due to the youthful naivete of the devotees at that time, these agents were successful in this, much to the misfortune of the world—that is now being cheated by these fake books that are distributed all over the world.

Srila Prabhupada’s mission was derailed. And now the illegal corporation called BBTii has deceived thousands of young spiritual aspirants into believing these fake books are Srila Prabhupada’s authentic teachings.

This is a very profitable business, with the free labor of innocent book distributors. The BBTii profits are in the millions. It is easy to find the BBTii corporation tax reports and the many sub-corporations in Australia where the money is being channeled. But few devotees know this. Do your own research.

At this time in history, it would be wise to have the complete teachings on numerous servers and in numerous other safe places where they can be found later on. This is a repeat of the history of Christianity—-because as I said, governments, esp those run by demons, DO NOT like radical religious movements. It is up to US to protect these teachings for the future.
Please, everyone do your part.

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E DASI

What do you expect from the 11 naked emperors? Many of the earlier generations of devotees who did not agree with the 11 naked emperors and the GBC which is corrupted even in the 70s left and either joined the Narayan camp or Gaudiya Maths or became atheist. My parents did not leave or join other groups but they did received guidance from Srila Bhakti Raksak Sridhar Maharaja after Srila Prabhupada "divine departure" / "disappearance" and said that what entered the movement was horrible.

AFD: Yes, he was poisoned. But Sridhar thought the poisoners are pure devotee gurus, he is just as clueless as the GBC sheeple. He is just one of them.  

Giriraja swami / ISKCON Cow Crisis / Ramesvara / Hansadutta 09 17 26

ISKCON SELLING ITS COWS TO BUTCHERS?

PADA: Heard similar things happening even outside of India. And stories of cows being uncared for and freezing to death and so on and so forth. Not caring for the women, children cows and elders, is what it looks like. But ISKCON is getting cited in Nepal by the government, cited in Bombay by the government, and some government people are asking about the cows. I would say their operation is falling apart more all the time. They cannot maintain their empire. ys pd   

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GIRIRAJA SWAMI

PADA: OK according to a PADA source, it was known Giriraja was masturbating in the temple as far back as 2018. He says that someone told him the story. I dunno, but it seems likely Giriraja swami was doing this later -- not because he was senile -- but because he was already at it previously. Even if he is senile, he should not be wearing orange now and making pretend he is a sannyasa guru. Sheesh! ys pd

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BOOK CHANGES

Restituyan las ediciones originales

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RAMESVARA

September 11, 2024: On this date in history, Ramesvara (formerly Swami, one of the eleven zonal acharyas) writes to one of the author’s Facebook friends who is reading Eleven Naked Emperors. He says:

Hare Krsna. PAMHO. AGTSP!

I would humbly inform you that I was never interviewed for the 11 Naked Emperors. Since then I have communicated with the author but a history book without such first hand interviews still is missing important perspectives.

Your aspiring servant Ramesvara dasa

My response? I’ll say one thing about this fellow, he’s an incredibly sly fox! I guess leopards don’t change their spots. Talk about omitting important facts! Or perhaps the fellow is getting senile.
Yes, Ramesvara was not interviewed for my book Eleven Naked Emperors. And the book is missing important perspectives, which I admit in the Preface. But why is that?

I asked him for an interview, BUT HE REFUSED! He wrote to me:

“It’s probably best for you and all concerned that I stay quietly on the sidelines. My bad reputation with your many readers would tarnish your genuinely good and valuable efforts. I respect you greatly and offer my humble obeisances and prayers for this endeavor to be successful and that it prove to be very helpful to many devotees.”

Robert Grant (Ramesvara),

Facebook message to the author (May 4, 2015).

You can read this in the Preface to ENE, p. xxiii. I even sent him a complimentary copy of the book! This is the thanks I get!

Update: Later that same day Ramesvara posted a comment on my Facebook post:
Hare Krsna. PAMHO. AGTSP!

Henry, thank you for reminding me about that email which I completely forgot about. My apologies for writing with any implication that you didn’t try to speak to me about these events. Yes my memory is not as sharp as when I was younger. Don’t think it’s senility, but definitely effects of aging. Again my sincere apology
Your humble aspiring servant

Ramesvara dasa

A reader responds:

So Ramesvara sincerely hopes that Henry’s books will help people, yet he discourages people from reading them.

How many individuals has Ramesvara discouraged in private correspondence—or just when he’s sure that Henry’s just not looking—from reading Henry’s books for either this Bull Shit reason or another that no one’s caught him doing yet?

I dunno, but since I’m not a devotee I’d make a bet that the answer to the question as to how many devotees Ramesvara has tried to discourage from reading Henry’s books would be EVERYONE who has contacted him. It’s hard for just a regular Joe, a common man, to doubt someone’s sincerity and still ask that same person a question with any thought that at face value we can trust whatever they said in reply to our question. 

Caught red-handed trying to make Henry out to be the responsible party in producing a history useless for its lack of representation of the cult’s central villains, and most notably himself, I find in Ramesvara’s comments that my consideration that he is neither open nor honest to be well warranted.

It stands to reason that whatever such persons say will be coming from a position of self interest that verges on the point of Narcissism. In other words, when it’s a threat to our own self interest or survival we must resist the compulsion to lie just in order to bail our own asses out of a jam or to advance our self interest when the truth is threatening to either if we are to be faithful to whatever vows we have taken to individuals and communities we have sworn to protect. Ramesvara should perhaps ask himself which of the two is more important. Reading Ramesvara’s Bull Shit, it’s hard to imagine that he gives a crap about anyone’s self interest other than his own.

What’s good for the answerer, rather than the asker, of the question in instances where there are any conflicts of interest between the questioner and the answerer of the question? In this case we see from Ramesvara’s words that he sees Henry’s readers as hostile to him.

So why would Ramesvara try to make another person a reader of Henry’s books? The answer is that he wouldn’t, and just as we see, he didn’t. In fact he sought to poison the author’s pen even after the pen had been put down, the pages printed and the ink dried, suggesting that without the benefit of his perspective, omitted through the author’s deliberated (since he brings it up twice) fear or disinterest in including them, which had the result of making them one sided (only including the testimonies of victims and not those of the Perps), and therefore asara or useless to the aspiring seeker into the truth about ISKCON, the truth about what it was when he and his cronies were in charge.

Ramesvara’s reply to Henry also seems disingenuous and mocking of Henry‘s inability to call him on his Bull Shit as much as Ramesvara feels he can safely get away with and can manage without telling Henry to just F*ck Off, which is probably what he’d rather do. Without the power of a guru over his chela or a Zonal Acharya over his Zone and without his enforcers, he can do what? Be snide? Oh, how the mighty have fallen!

Ramesvara can no longer have anyone beaten or battered into submission or even yell at them in his prissy and petulant little way without inviting a smack and the little sucker knows it, and I believe that it grates him. What he longs for, his words betray, is not to advance anyone to anything other than himself and a return to his glory days when he was one of the masters of his world and the rest of you were his slaves.

Having devotees battered into submission or just worshiping him out of misplaced loyalty and a wealth of abysmal ignorance in a world where his teenage groupies doodle him, those are things, the faded glory that he longs for, not for Prabhupada’s service, which he left by the way, the first time he went home to his old life and started again to eat roast beef and steak which severed the connection between guru and disciple according to Prabhupada.

One thing I always wondered was what is it called when one Zonal Acharya wants someone killed, but the killing is done outside of his own Zone and so he has to ask another Zonal Acharya to carry it out or help him get rid of the body or evidence? Is that called a courtesy assassination?

While pretending to respect and honor you and your historical contributions, Ramesvara stabs you in the back, probably every chance he gets. What a piece of work he is, but that’s pretty obvious to both of us. Your books are a treasure, thank you for writing them.

George Smith
Overland Park, Kansas

PADA: Ramesvara, Bhagavan and really the whole mob has never come clean, ok except Hansadutta to some extent. They never contact me either, despite they know I am making history recordings. They don't want the real history to be known, because they had a dark part in it. 

An ex-guruli said, 

"They burnt down the ISKCON house, with us kids still inside the house, and then grabbed a suitcase full of money and a woman -- and left. They never cared about ISKCON, or us, or even their own spiritual future -- where they will certainly rot in hell for making hell for us and everyone else. I pray every day that they all leave the planet to purify the earth."

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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ANAPAYINI JAKUPKO

My offering to Srila Prabhupada this year for Vyasa Puja was the first I have ever given publicly as an adult.

Somehow, this year it felt very clear what I wanted to say, and I decided to ride the wave of inspiration—and bravery. I also knew I wasn't speaking only for myself. I had no fear that what I was saying was a unique idea, or something I needed to convince others to believe. I knew that hundreds of my friends and fellow second-generation devotees have carried many of these same feelings, questions, and concerns. I felt them standing behind me.

Later that morning, I had the service of welcoming Srila Prabhupada's disciples into their feast tent. I was met with so much love and encouragement. Dozens of devotees approached me with positive feedback and appreciation for what I had shared. The only criticism I received was that I had spoken a little too long!
I was the only second-generation devotee who spoke that morning, and perhaps I took a few extra minutes because, in my heart, I knew I wasn't speaking only for myself.

And I still have more to say.

I want to continue the conversation around the questions I laid at the feet of my beloved spiritual grandfather—especially the question of how we, as a movement, value, protect, educate, and invest in our children. Since then, I have received so many messages from people around the world asking, **“What can I do? How can I help put the children first? How can I support programs that are already doing this work?”**

There is so much we can do.

Look at your own temple community. What facilities and programs are available for children? Ask how you can help strengthen them. If something is missing, perhaps you can help create it. Offer to facilitate something meaningful for your temple's children and youth. Reach out to your local devotee school. Volunteer your time, professional skills, or services. Make a donation. Ask the teachers and administrators what they actually need. Let your temple management know that supporting children matters to you—and ask how you can help make it a greater priority.

And I will admit that I am a little biased because I have the great privilege of working at **Bhaktivedanta Academy**, Alahcua Florida, where I see every day what can happen when devotees pour their hearts, skills, time, and resources into Srila Prabhupada's children.

So if any of this inspires you and you are wondering, **“Okay, but what specifically can I do?”** please reach out to me. I can happily give you something tangible and specific to support. There are real needs, real projects, and real children who will directly benefit from that support.

We don't have to wait for someone else to solve this.

Putting our children first can begin in our own temples, schools, and communities—with each of us asking a very simple question: What can I do to help Srila Prabhupada's children thrive?

PADA: OK Alachua has a lot of people like Pranada who promote Auschwitz for kids ki jaya sir head honcho Jayapataka. We cannot simultaneously worship Auschwitz for kids programs and wish our kids well at the same time. Not working! ys pd

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HANSADUTTA WRITES

Dear Veda Guhya Das Prabhu,

Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Because you asked me to write VNN about the Rittvik matter, I thought I would first pen you my thoughts on the issue along the lines of our discussion a few days ago.

The discussions that took place on 28th May 1977 between Srila Prabhupada and some GBC regarding initiations in the future were not known to me till years after his disappearance. Srila Prabhupada would say many things on many subjects, but unless a particular policy was written in letter form, or some other legal document, such discussions on different matters were not accepted as final. Prabhupada often said you can say anything, but do not put it in writing. Writing makes it legal.

A number of questions come to my mind when the controversy over the rittvik-Guru issue comes up.

1) The system of rittvik initiations was an ongoing practice for years before Srila Prabhupada named eleven “Rittvik representatives of the Acharya” in his letter of July 9, 1977. Why would Srila Prabhupada make a special effort to write a letter appointing eleven of his senior disciples as “Rittvik representatives of the Acharya” when such rittvik initiations were already being performed on his behalf -- not only by the persons named in his July 9th Letter but by sannyasis, GBCs, Temple Presidents, and others who happened to be at hand on the occasion of such initiation ceremonies?

2) Why did Srila Prabhupada decline the suggestion Of Tamal Krishna Goswami to include Brahmananda Swami on the rittvik list? He was a leading devotee and sannyasi.

3) Why did Srila Prabhupada not simply say “All sannyasis, GBCs, and Temple Presidents of ISKCON in good standing everywhere” could act as “Rittvik representatives of the Acharya” and initiate new disciples on his behalf whenever the need presented itself ?

4) How would creating “Rittvik representatives of the Acharya” relieve Srila Prabhupada from the burden of taking on the Karma of newly initiated disciples if the disciples thus initiated would still be Srila Prabhupada’s disciples?

5) Why did Srila Prabhupada reiterate the July 9th Letter appointing “Rittvik representative of the Acharya” in three separate letters (two to myself, and one to Kirtanananda Swami) and in several conversations, but never once mention anything about appointing Gurus or about rittviks becoming Gurus upon his anticipated disappearance from the world?

I distinctly remember when I received the July 9, 1977, letter in Sri Lanka that it was clear to me that this letter was Srila Prabhupada’s arrangement for initiations for the future. I also remember feeling some disappointment with the obvious conditional authority that the “Rittvik representative of the Acharya” designation implied, because I actually had a great desire to be a Guru like Srila Prabhupada, and I think many of the leaders did have similar desires. 

Still, I understood it was a very responsible and authoritative appointment. On July 10th I received another letter from Srila Prabhupada written in response to a letter I had sent him describing the preaching activities in Sri Lanka at that time. In this letter he wrote as follows:

“You are a suitable person and you can give initiation to those that are ready for it. I have selected you among eleven men as “Rittvik” representative of the Acharya, to give initiations, both first and second initiation, on my behalf.” 

A newsletter is being sent to all temple presidents and GBC in this regard, listing the eleven representatives selected by His Divine Grace. Those who are initiated are the disciples of Srila Prabhupada, and anyone who you deem fit and initiate in this way, you should send their names to be included in Srila Prabhupada’s “Initiated disciples” book.

I immediately wrote a letter to Srila Prabhupada asking him why he had been so merciful towards me by appointing me as his “Rittvik representative of the Acharya” which I understood to be a very confidential and responsible position. In other words, it was clear to me that this letter appointing “Rittvik Representatives” to initiate new disciples on Srila Prabhupada’s behalf was Srila Prabhupada’s final instructions in anticipation of his disappearance from the world.
Srila Prabhupada replied my letter by paraphrasing my question and answering in a letter dated July 31st 1977 as follows:

“You have written to Srila Prabhupada saying you do not know why he has chosen you to be a recipient of his Mercy. His Divine Grace immediately replied, “It is because you are my sincere servant. You have given up attachment to a beautiful and qualified wife and that is a great benediction. You are a real preacher. Therefore I like you. (Then Laughing). Sometimes you become obstinate, but that is true of any intelligent man. Now you have got a very good field. Now organize it and it will be a great credit. No one will disturb you there. MAKE YOUR OWN FIELD AND CONTINUE TO BE RITTVIK AND ACT ON MY BEHALF”.

It was clear that Srila Prabhupada had officially introduced the concept of “Rittvik representative of the Acharya” as the arrangement for initiations by his disciples for the future of ISKCON. Had there been anything more to clarify certainly Srila Prabhupada would have written another letter to amend what was already so clear. But he never did, other than reinforce what he had already written: 

“Continue to act as rittvik representative of the Acharya.”

These eleven men and many others had been initiating devotees on Srila Prabhupada’s behalf for years, so there was no need to make a formal declaration and name disciples who could initiate on Srila Prabhupada’s behalf simply to relieve Srila Prabhupada from the burden of initiating due to his illness as it was already going on all over the world for years.

However, the July 9th letter gave authority and responsibility that was not allowed previously. The eleven men selected as “Rittvik Representatives of the Acharya” were given the freedom to initiate (first and second) and give the spiritual name without first having to consult Srila Prabhupada by letter and have an appropriate name sent by Srila Prabhupada. This was new. This system, in effect, gave these eleven “Rittvik representative of the Acharya” all the responsibilities and authority of a GURU, but at the same time it was clear by their “Job Description” as “Rittvik representative of the Acharya” that their authority was CONDITIONAL -- it was not a blank check

- as they were not mature full qualified Spiritual Masters. They were apprentices of the Spiritual Master -- “Rittvik representatives of the Acharya” -- and, the disciples they would initiate would be the disciples of their Spiritual Master, Srila Prabhupada, the Sampradaya Acharya, The Founder-Acarya of ISKCON.
The Emperor or King delegates power to a Viceroy who thus has all the power of a King to rule over a colony or state, yet it is understood that the Viceroy is not the King, but is ruling as the King’s representative. Such a Viceroy would not automatically become a King upon the death of the King, rather he would continue to act as the Viceroy until the next Emperor or King was installed on the throne. Similarly the “Rittvik representative” does not automatically become a Guru or Acharya (as we assumed when Srila Prabhupada disappeared), but the Rittvik continues to act as the representative of the Acharya, Srila Prabhupada.

Although Srila Prabhupada spoke of all his disciples becoming Gurus, he never once ordered any disciple “To be a Guru”, rather he gave conditional authority and responsibility to some leading disciples to “Act as Rittvik representatives of the Acharya”. Having failed to carry out this responsibility by assuming that automatically upon Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance the rittviks would become Gurus we find everything has gone off track, and the whole ISKCON movement is in shambles. Still, it is better late than never. Everything can be brought back into focus if we simply come back to the order of the Spiritual Master and act as 

“Rittvik representative of the Acharya.”

I don’t think that my words will make any difference -- but for my own clarification and purification I have written down these thoughts. Perhaps they will be of some help to you.

I have one last concern and it is this idea I get from Krishna Kant’s paper “The Final Order” that the “Rittvik Representative” is nothing more than a priest who performs a ritual initiation, and then is no more significant in the spiritual life of a disciple than a clerk at an army recruiting station.

Yet, the fact is that Srila Prabhupada was very careful and deliberate about choosing his “Rittvik representatives” and we will notice all of them were distinguished by their enthusiasm and success in the preaching field. So if there is going to be a reform and actual adherence to the order of Srila Prabhupada to act as “Rittvik Representatives of the Acharya,” then I think that anyone who is going to be designated as such should first of all go out and show their capacity to represent Srila Prabhupada as his “Rittvik Representative” by opening some centers and recruiting 100 or 200 devotees (or families) and train them up properly to preach and worship Srila Prabhupada as his disciples. Otherwise, what is the meaning of “Rittvik representative of the Acharya?” Without this it will simply be another office job.

I hope you and Janaki are well. Thanks for your hospitality. I hope we can meet again soon.

Your humble servant,
Hansadutta das

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PRABHUPADA TOLD US THE MODERN SOCIETY IS NOT RELIABLE 

AD: IF YOU THINK GAS PRICES ARE BAD NOW…

Thus far, the entire spike in fuel prices has been the result of oil FUTURES trading. America hasn’t even gotten to the oil SHORTAGE part of the equation yet that sends fuel prices skyrocketing (if you’re lucky enough to find any).

Fortunately for us, MAGA folks had the foresight to draw down our Strategic Petroleum Reserves to record lows so Americans could last a few weeks longer than other countries - giving us a chance to see what’s coming coming down the pipeline...

Massive protests are breaking out all over the world right now (90 countries and counting as of today) over fuel prices due to fuel shortages and food prices due to fuel prices. From Syria to Madrid to Guatemala to Colombia to Portugal to Sudan to the Philippines, people are blocking roads, burning tires, and starting to riot.
So, I have to give MAGA a lot of credit. I underestimated them when I warned people 10 years ago they would destroy this country. I didn’t realize they would destroy the entire world.

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PADA to LOKANATH GROUPIE

PADA: Ok so when we sued ISKCON for $3m and later for $400M, and the courts said these are the worst cases of child mistreatment ever recorded in this court, that means there are thousands of victims of the Lokanath's guru process, his victim is merely one of many. Lokanath's victim's family was told not to go to the police because he would never hold any office of authority anymore. Well they simply lied to the family, because not long after he was seated in a Vyasa seat. 

And a family member of the Lokanath victim tried to protest to the GBC, and he was evicted from his Los Angeles apartment, just when his wife was going to have a baby in 10 days. As a result of all the trauma and harassment from the Lokanath program, the baby miscarried and left its body. So Lokanath tosses victims under the bus so he can sit in a big seat, even un-alived ones, that's all. 

Now if all of this is third hand information, why did the GBC plead "no contest" when we sued them? The courts could have just said -- this all third hand unreliable info. No, the courts do not see first hand eye witness accounts as third hand information? It seems you have no idea how courts operate. When Nitai said acharyas can fall down, Srila Prabhupada said this is rascal idea and he should be removed from the society. 

Srila Prahbupada says when we consider acharyas to be ordinary men who can fail, this is gurusuh narah matih naraka sah, he said that means anyone who thinks this is already a resident of Naraka. Why would we listen to the residents of Naraka? But yeah, Lokanath is not only a predator, he manipulates the victims with false promises to cause them more grief, and in this case, a departed newborn of her relatives. I collated hundreds of testimonies for these court cases and Lokanath's program is the direct cause of all these victims, not some third hand party. 

The case has never been settled, the victims were told he would never have any office of authority, that has never been done. No apology was ever made to the people who lost their baby etc., none of this was ever rectified and it is very oppressive to the victims to say it has been recitifed. That is re-victimizing the victims. Meanwhile, there are several thousand other victims who are not happy to see predators in Vyasa seats in ISKCON, and I know personally many of them. ys pd

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KAILASA GROUPIE vs PADA

*** Slanderman PADA, this entire illogical diatribe collapses once one actually reads Kailāsa Prabhu instead of your paraphrase of him. You have conflated at least four completely different things: offering bhoga to Kṛṣṇa, honoring a pure devotee, worshiping someone as dīkṣā-guru, and the qualification of a madhyama-adhikārī. 

PADA: No they are all the same issue, we are training people to offer their bogha to the pure devotee, and Kailasa says we are training people to worship a pure devotee because we are sahajiyas? Who should they worship instead? And why would they offer bhogha to Srila Prabhupada, if he is not their guru? Who is their guru? Kailasa never says, he just says their guru is not Srila Prabhupada, which is what the GBC says? 

*** Your biggest distortion concerns “Karta-bhajā / Christian.” Kailāsa does NOT say that offering bhoga is Christian. In Transformations 2008 interview, he is describing the ṛtvik heresy whereby Prabhupāda is supposedly the absent dīkṣā-guru while ṛtviks function as priestly “conduits.” He explicitly compares THAT guru-priest arrangement to the Christian model and calls the posthumous ṛtvik system Karta-bhajā sahajiyā. 

PADA: So we should offer bhogha to the absentia non person / post mortem person? If we offer to the posthumous, person, then the food is post mortem dead on arrival. What is Kailasa's posthumous / post mortem prasadam? Who even comes up with the idea that prasadam is post mortem because it is offered to the post mortem. Prasadam is dead? Sorry, that is not what Srila Prabhupada says, prasadam is posthumous? Where does he even say that? No one ever used these terms "post mortem prasadam" to describe food offered to a pure devotee before you guys came along? 

*** You have taken his criticism of the ṛtvik heresy and dishonestly converted it into “Kailāsa doesn’t want people offering bhoga.” That’s a straw man. Produce the passage where Kailāsa says devotees should not offer bhoga to Kṛṣṇa. 

PADA: Well it is actually worse, he says we are eating post mortem remnants. 

*** Your second distortion is “Kailāsa wants people to worship a madhyama who can become an asura.” No. Kailāsa explicitly describes the genuine madhyama as an advanced transcendentalist and says, “The guru must be a very perfect man. The madhyama-adhikārī is a very perfect man.” He distinguishes that genuine madhyama from the fake, institutionally manufactured “madhyamas” of ISKCON. 

PADA: But where does Srila Prabhupada says he wants us to worship people who can become asuras in ISKCON? When did he order that? 

*** And Śrīla Prabhupāda himself says that a Vaiṣṇava on the intermediate platform “can also accept disciples.” So your argument that “madhyama can fall, therefore madhyama cannot be guru” is not a refutation of Kailāsa. It is an argument you must first reconcile with Prabhupāda’s own statement. 

PADA: We have reconciled it, he has no brahmana tejyas, he is insuficcient, he can become an asura, so we need to keep it in context. But Kailas's Madhyam is a phantom anyway, he never existed and never will, it is a bluff. 

*** Finally, your endless references to Ravindra, the so-called GBC, who wrote what paper in 1990, etc., are guilt by association. Kailāsa’s present position is explicitly critical of the institutional guru machinery: elections, blackballs, certificates and institutional designation. He says plainly, “There is guru. There is not ‘ISKCON guru.’” 

PADA: No, the GBC says the guru can become and asura and that is why they distribute Kailasa's writings, they are same page idea. *** So stop running Kailasa Prabhu through the grease. Quote him accurately. Quote Śrīla Prabhupāda accurately. Then address the actual siddhānta. “Kailāsa says X because Ravindra…” is not guru, śāstra or sadhu. PADA: Well Kailasa lost me when he said our telling people to offer bhogha is wrong, or worse, is eating the posthumous, post samadhi, post morten dead material. He never cites Srila Prahbupada saying worship of pure devotees is post mortem. All glories to the post mortem dead guy, and worship the non living nonentity Madhyam. This is all bluff. Anyway the good news is, our people do not think they are eating post mortem dead material, they think Srila Prabhupada is their current acharya and thus we should worship him and not people who can become asuras. My friends say, Kailasa wants us to not offer the bhogha to the pure devotee, then they really will be eating post mortem material. He is angry and upset that people do not believe prasadam is post mortem. ys pd

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CHANDRA SWAMI

How many people are aware of the role notorious criminal and godman Chandra Swami played in the poisoning of ISKCON founder Srila Prabhupada in his final days?

Those who have lived in India in the 90's will be familiar with Chandra Swami and the many scandals he was involved in, including the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi. In addition he was well known as a weapons smuggler, a spy for the CIA, and was closely connected with Adnan Khashoggi (another CIA asset, who was famous for his involvement in the Iran Contra scandal of the 1980's).

"Adnan Khashoggi was implicated in the Iran–Contra affair as a key middleman in the arms-for-hostages exchange along with Iranian arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar [...] with Saudi and United States backing."

The name Khashoggi will be familiar because Adnan Khashoggi's nephew happens to be Jamal Khashoggi who was recently murdered by the Saudi Government in Turkey. Adnan Khashoggi also happens to be the uncle of Dodi Fayed who was killed along with Princess Dianna. Just see how all these people are intertwined.
An income-tax raid on Chandra Swami's ashram uncovered original drafts of payments to Adnan Khashoggi of $11 million USD. 

Chandra Swami was caught illegally sending huge sums of money to the CIA asset behind the Iran Contra scandal, and he was also involved with funding the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, funding the LTTE, and also had close links to Khalistani terrorists in Punjab.

The Jain commission that investigated the Rajiv Gandhi assassination dedicated an entire volume to the involvement of Chandra Swami in the assassination. Throughout the 90's Indian TV news was filled with reports of this man's criminal activities and scandals.

So how is this person connected to Srila Prabhupada? This notorious criminal, Chandra Swami, who was involved in assassinating Rajiv gandhi, was involved in providing the Makaradhvaja medicine Srila Prabhupada took in the last month of his life. Not only did he arrange for it, he provided it "free of cost".

The ISKCON leader who was friends with Chandra Swami and was ISKCON's link to Chandra Swami was Adi Keshava Swami. His father happened to be a known CIA agent. (Adi Keshava Swami also happens to be related to the Barclay's bank family.) So the son of one CIA agent amazingly has this contact with this VIP Chandra Swami, who is also another known CIA asset, and Chandra Swami decides to arrange this special "medicine" completely "free of cost" for Srila Prabhupada.

Weeks later Srila Prabhupada leaves his body, and days before that he speaks about suspicion he is being poisoned. Further there are multiple whispers heard on recordings from those days with the words "poison" in them. The ISKCON leader who was the link to Chandra Swami (and who's father was a CIA agent) disappears after and has nothing to do with ISKCON again.

One year before this Adi Keshava Swami also happens to take Chandra Swami to the US for a tour. The son of a CIA agent, brings some Indian swami (who also happens to be a CIA asset) to the US for a tour. ISKCON has never brought a "Swami" from another sampradaya (what to speak of a tantric swami) to the US for a world tour. The only time it has ever been done is when everyone involved had links to the CIA.

The following two conversations with Srila Prabhupada highlight the involvement of Chandra Swami in his final days. Conversation on October 25th, 1977, speaking about Chandra Swami arranging  the medicine for Srila Prabhupada:

Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Śatadhanya Mahārāja has come.

Śatadhanya: I have brought the makara-dhvaja from the kavirāja in Delhi. This kavirāja, he's not Rāmānuja-sampradāya, but many people say in Delhi that he's the foremost kavirāja in India. He treats the Prime Minister, Morarji Desai, and all the ministers also. So many people trusted him, and he mixed this medicine... He was mixing it for some other person, but when he heard that you were ill, he gave it to us.

Bhavānanda: What kind of makara-dhvaja?

Śatadhanya: There's different kinds of makara-dhvaja, six kinds. This is the most potent kind. This is called siddha makara-dhvaja. This contains gold and pearl and musk and mica and many other ingredients.

Bhavānanda: And what are the other ingredients you have to take it with?

Śatadhanya: You can take it with either honey or milk. But he recommended that for Prabhupāda's particular condition he take it with honey.

Prabhupāda: That's all right. What did he charge?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What did he charge?

Śatadhanya: Nothing. We got it for free because we got it through one influential man named Chandra Swami.

Prabhupāda: Oh.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, Chandra Swami. That's that person Ādi-keśava was always working with.

Prabhupāda: That means he's honest. That's all.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You met Chandra Swami?

Śatadhanya: No, he's in Madras. This is forty-eight doses, two doses a day. That means this is twenty-four days' medicine makara-dhvaja. Two doses per day.

Prabhupāda: So do it carefully. Tamāla?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: You take care.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. I'll keep it locked up.

Prabhupāda: They charged nothing. Then he is honest.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Did he say what the charge would normally have been?

Śatadhanya: No. But he did say that what the other kavirājas said about dosage was very wrong, and that if that dose was taken it would have been detrimental.
Six days after receiving Chandra Swami's Makaradhvaja medicine Prabhupada says it is poison:

Bhavānanda: He did agree with your own diagnosis, Prabhupāda. He said makaradhvaja at this point would be poison and today you said that it was poison.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Now let us look at Bhaktividya Purna Swami's recollection of this:

"The next day however while Srila Prabhupada was looking at the color of the skin on his arms and noticing a blue tint, he stated, “poison”. Meaning that the ‘makaradhvaja’ instead of acting as hoped, was giving the side effect of poisoning."

And here is Tamal Krishna Goswami's recollection of this medicine given by Chandra Swami:

"Satadhanya had also arranged earlier for the makaradhvaja, which had proved poisonous."

This medicine, arranged by Chandra Swami "free of cost" ended up turning Srila Prabhupada's skin blue and he immediately said it was "poison".

The following conversation, which occured in 1976, speaks about Adi Keshava Swami arranging a tour for Chandra Swami to come to the US, which Srila 

Prabhupada was not happy about:

Giriraja: And then Ādi-keśava Mahārāja is going with a swami? Chandra Swami, some Indian swami in America. He's going with Ādi-keśava Mahārāja to meet the new President of the United States on January 27th.

Prabhupāda: He's going to see?

Girirāja: Yes, Jimmy Carter. On January 20th he will become the next President. So Ādi-keśava Mahārāja and this one Indian sannyāsī, they are going to make a representation to the new President.

Prabhupāda: Who is that Indian swami?

Śrutaśrava: His name is Chandra Swami.

Prabhupāda: Chandra Swami? So why...?

Guest (4): He's a young man.

Prabhupāda: He must be Māyāvādī. He's taking advantage of this. He's a Māyāvādī.

Guest (4): He's a man who is following Tantric.

Prabhupāda: So what is this nonsense. This should not be... He should not accompany. He's taking advantage of it.

Guest (4): He's also directly associated with the Prime Minister, this young man. Chandra Swami.

So one of India's most famous criminals, somone who was involved directly in the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, someone who was notorious for smuggling weapons and other criminal activities, someone who was a known CIA asset and who had close links with other infamous CIA assets like Khashoggi, was also involved closely in providing "free medicine" to Srila Prabhupada in his last month alive.
In addition to this, there is a letter where Srila Prabhupada gives a warning about Chandra Swami:

'This Candra Swami has said that "In America there is no one turning Christians into Hindus except for the Hare Krsna Movement." That means his support is genuine, he's appreciating. Yes, it is dangerous to associate with such men, you should always remember that. But to take our interest, if the help is coming from such persons, we should not lose it also. But you must be very careful.' - Letter to: Ādi-kesava (26 December, 1976)

A few after thoughts, why would Tamal Krishna Goswami keep the medicine locked up in an almirah? I have never had the need to lock up a medicine, and I don't know anyone else who has had a need to lock up a medicine:
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'll keep it locked in the almirah, and I will give one dose at a time to Bhakti-caru.

Just think about this. After Srila Prabhupada left his body, everyone kept everything related to Srila Prabhupada, including individual shaving hairs that were stuck in his shaving blade, but no one kept the medicine he took.
They still have the half used vicks bottle he was using at the time. They still have all sorts of things he was using. But this special medicine, no one has it. It is highly suspicious.

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RUSSIA IS A MESS

PADA: OK I was rooting for Ukraine because I believe they are unfairly being victimized with civilian targeting. It does look like Ukraine has found a way to combat the Russians by indirect means, wiping out their oil production. 

I really don't see Ukraine taking down apartment buildings, cafes, churches, hospitals, stores, schools, trains, baby nurseries etc. -- like the Russians are. In any case, Russia wanted this and they now get to see what their karma reaction looks like. Ukraine just took out a couple more big oil sites just now. "It is raining oil" said one report. Russia is in trouble, plain and simple. But it looks like the leaders are un-interested in what happens to the citizens. It is amazing that Ukraine is doing all this with plywood, duct tape and fiberglass "Flamingo" missiles.

Oddly, same type process is happening in USA. I just saw that diesel around here is $9.50, and that is what all the trucks use to transport food and goods around. That means the prices of everything will go up. At the same time gas is going up, and that is causing a lot of pain for paycheck to paycheck folks, which is a lot of folks. Same thing, I do not think the leaders here have any idea what is going on on the ground.

At the same time, both Putin and MAGA leaders know the mass of people are not happy with them. That means they might try desperate things to save their positions, and that is dangerous for all of us. ys pd   

Gargamuni and the Poison Issue 09 12 26

 

PADA: Gargamuni is saying he cannot accept that Srila Prabhupada was intentionally poisoned. OK well this is the same problem we had on every single issue with most devotees. 

*** Well prabhu there is mass child molesting going on. No there is not! 

*** They are re-writing the books. No, Jayadvaita is improving the books. 

*** Srila Prabhupada says he is being poisoned. No, he never said that! Etc. 

Well it looks to me like a lot of people are FINALLY saying, hey wait a minute, he DOES say he is being poisoned; they are making massive book changes and yeah lots of child molesting has been going on. Yup!  

Gregory Michal Scharf (Gargamuni)

Srila Prabhupada was taking Markata Dwaja Medicine which can act as a poison or a stimulent for the heart .... loaded with different metals including mercury. the medcine was brought from Delhi and was already contaminated and had a poisonious effect on His body.; but not that He was poisoned purposely...

Govinda Dasadasa: Hare Krishna Prabhuji. Pl. accept dandavats. May I correct you, It is makaradvaja not markatadvaja.

PADA: Gregory Michal Scharf They are whispering about intentional p*isoning him. It is all on tape. The whispers have been authenticated by three separate professional audio forensic labs. The Gainesville FBI said if this crime had taken place in the USA, they would have made it a felony crime and charged the culprits. They believe the evidence points to a homicide. The FBI are convinced by the evidence. 

Srila Prabhupada says I need to get out of this room because Ravana will k*ll me here. Etc. He says someone is giving me p*ison, and someone is, and that someone is the Ravana party. Sorry, there is a lot of info you are ignoring here. But the Truth Labs in India are professional forensic folks and they made a package of all the evidence and they said, this is a homicide. I trust the professionals and not the armchair side experts. 

Of course I also said there is mass child mistreatment going on in 1979, no one believed me, because the devotees as a group have little discrimination on what is a crime and what is not. I cannot trust their judgement. The Bengali man who transcribed the tape for me said, this is a homicide, that was his interpretation of the tape and so it is for a number of other native speakers. A Brijabasi friend of Srila Prabhupada also told me this is a homicide when I played the tape to him. He was a personal friend of Srila Prabhupada and he was crying. The devotees for the most part never cry, they want to defend their friends, just like they defended their friends on the mass child mistreatment. ys pd

Madhavi Khurana: Nope, not the case.

Sanaka Rsi: You are confirming that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, but you're saying that it wasn't intentional. How can you be certain? I'm still waiting to hear a reasonable explanation for the high levels of cadmium...

PADA: Yeah, the GBC always hires "experts" like their audio forensic sound expert, who was the owner of a rock and roll recording studio that went bankrupt. And their "doctor's report" that was made by a person who has no doctor degree. Naveen Krishna's dad [Dr. Khurana] was one of the Kavirajas and he said there was malefic intent, which Naveen also believes. I was the person who first released these November tapes [why were they hidden?] and I believed the tapes before we even knew there was any forensic follow up, which confirmed the tapes. 

Dr. Lemos does not cover the full range of evidence, nor does he explain why we concluded there was malefic intent before any of the forensics was even known about. Nor does he explain what they are whispering about etc. It is another GBC dud on arrival. ys pd 

*** NITYANANDA DASA

I am working on getting a text (not PDF) version of the 5 year forensic study (summary only) done by Truth Labs, Hyderabad on the evidence that Srila Prabhupada was maliciously p*isoned by his own caretakers in 1977. This is why the GBC finally actually responded with a bit more than their constant past denials, hiring a Dr. Lemos to nit-pick and fault-find the p*isoning thesis.

Again, rather than do any of their own tests or present some solid contrary evidence, the GBC through Dr. Lemos simply created doubts, maybe this, maybe that, thus inconclusive. And, of course, the GBC places NO WEIGHT on Srila Prabhupada's own words about being p*isoned, nor the "p*ison whispers."

No honest investigation, ever... 49 years now. Just denials or implausible "alternative" explanations, such as, Srila Prabhupada's lethal levels of heavy metals might have come from ceramic mugs, rice, mustard seeds, the Yamuna, Ayurvedic meds, etc, although he was the only one who somehow acquired these amounts!

J Dasi: PADA, you make a good argument. All sides should be considered. Pros-Cons.

Gregory Michal Scharf

Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada? You said before that it is said that you were poisoned?

Prabhupada: No. These kind of symptoms are seen when a man is poisoned. He said like that. Not that I am poisoned.

Tamala Krsna: Yeah. Did anyone tell you that, or you just know it from before?

Prabhupada: I read something.

Tamala Krsna: Ah, I see. That's why actually we cannot allow anyone else to cook for you.

Prabhupada: That is good.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation -- November 9, 1977, Vrndavana Srila Prabhupada was taking Markata Dwaja Medicine which can act as a poison....loaded with different metals including mercury. the medcine was brought from Delhi and was already contaminated and had a poisonious effect on His body.

PADA: Yep, one isolated statement out of all the others. But yeah, he has the symptoms and the kavirajas agreed. And we cannot allow someone else to cook for you, yep, classic means of delivering toxins. A gurukuli saw Bhavananda sprinkling white powder on Srila Prabhupada's food, he said it was "spiritual dust" OK heavy metals can be ground into powder. 

There are also whispers and etc. I never needed any of that, I just just accept when he says someone is giving me p*ison, then someone is. I believe he wanted to hide the info and so most of it is in the Hindi, that is why they did not destroy the tapes, and that is why I got them. The Bengali newsman who did the original transcript told me, "this man is being p*isoned." He did not even know who Prabhupada was ... he knew what the tape said. Yeah we need to take all the quotes together and not cherry pick one isolated one, which by the way confirms he has the symtoms and these symptoms maybe coming from his food. Even this part of the conversations shows something suspect. ys pd

Asta sakhi -- Rasa Manjari: When Srila Prabhupada made his last journey to England. He asked me up to his rooms . He was so frail so fragile and could not stand without support. We were in his rooms and in his bedroom. He sent his servant out of the room and asked me to bring him a bunsan burner stove with a pot that could fit the burner with a lighter and to bring it directly to him. 

He asked me to bring him milk at this time everyday he was there and to hand it to him personally. He looked me in the eyes and I answered yes Srila Prabhupada and he answered I want to cook the milk myself. I supplied him with everything and got into so much trouble when I insisted to give Srila Prabhupada his milk every day only putting it directly in his hands and only his servant hands when Srila Prabhupada noded his head confirming to do it this way.

I felt so bad so afraid when Srila Prabhupada left that I could not go with him to protect him as that mood consumed me after giving him his milk in this way. If anything was going on our beloved Srila Prabhupada knew about it.

Asta Sakhi - another lady who cooked for Prabhupada was told by him ". I want her to cook for me as I know she loves me so much and would never poison me." At the last days in November of 1977 Prabhupada had told devotees I can either stay or leave as Krsna has told me this. 

He asked several senior Disciples including Tamal , Kirtananda and Kirtanananda and a few others said, "we need you to stay" but Tamal was totally silent and didn't answer. Prabhupada wanted his sister to cook for him and not others. Anyone who doubts Srila Prabhupada and calls Srila Prabhupada a conspiracy agitator or insults those who love Him and ache for His tribulation at the hands of evil subversives, is condemned.

Madhavi Khurana: "small portions"...NO!! Go to: PrabhupadaTruthCommission.com for proper reports.

Mayesvara Dasa: All the other stupid pseudo-evidence that has been presented by those who do not understand Jurisprudence to prop up Nico's venomous rumor that Srila Prabhupada was murdered by his most trusted disciples are fully exposed at: https://samadhitattva.com/

Madana Gopal: Iskcon needs to wake the hell up, and stop the cover up, The evidence is overwhelming and conclusive Srila Prabhupada was maliciously and deliberately POISONED, Srila Prabhupada even stated it himself, that he was being poisoned.

Any so called iskcon devotee that wants to dismiss the evidence and flippantly brush it aside should be ashamed of themselves. Look at the evidence its proof right there but iskcon goes out of its way to try to disprove disprove disprove. Im disgusted and disappointed with so called advanced devotees working so hard to disprove the absolute truth.

Gregory Michal Scharf: Brahmananda was present, no such thing took place Prabhu... 

Gunamai D. Dasi: And Krishna was present and he protects his pure devotees. But then, even Krishna was attacked by Maya when he was born, (somewhere I read Prabhupada had said that ) . No one can understand Krishna’s mysterious past times. Mare Krishna rakhe ke, rakhe Krishna Mare Ke..

Gita:  7-26 “O Arjuna, as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, I know everything that has happened in the past, all that is happening in the present, and all things that are yet to come. I also know all living entities; but Me no one knows.”

Madana Gopal: I really wish that was the case but as I said for me the evidence is overwhelming. 

Gregory Michal Scharf: Madana Gopal Srila Prabhupada was taking Markata Dwaja Medicine which can act as a poison or a stimelent for the heart....loaded with different metals including mercury. the medcine was brought from Delhi and was already contaminated and had a poisonious effect on His body.; but not that He was poisoned purposely...

Madana Gopal: I am sorry prabhu but I definitely do not agree I believe he was purposely poisoned I’m open to all theories, I have read all literature for and against I believe the evidence to be overwhelmingly in favour that our Srila Prabhupada was maliciously poisoned.

Ujjval G Samanic yes I know you dont have to convince me

Madhavi Khurana: Markadvaja was only given to him a couple of times in the last few days, and it was nixed by the kaviraja after that as not appropriate for Prabhupada's condition. That doesn't account then, either, for the elevated levels in his hair samples months before!

Markadvaja itself also isn't "loaded with different metals"; you need to be accurate instead of presenting vague statements. Its basis is mercury, sulphur and gold...but obviously it is produced in such a way that it give BENEFICIAL results, not malefic!

But, as I mentioned, Srila Prabhupada was only given it 2 or 3 times. That did NOT account for the elevated levels of mercury or MORE lethally, CADMIUM in his hair! If markadvaja was deadly, it wouldn't be used as it has been for centuries in Ayurveda!

Maha Alexandrova: Srila Prabhupada himself said he was poisoned. This is the first evidence!! 

Gregory Scharf: Maha Alexandrova He did not, Brahmananda was present, this all a conspiracy theory for fame and fortune, thats all by one crazy man

PADA: The Bengali man who made the first transcript said this is a homicide. He is not a crazy man, nor does he want fame and fortune? In fact he told me never to mention his name since he fears for his relatives in Bengal. This man is a professional Bengali news editor, he does not want any fame and he is not crazy either, he is a professional. 

I am also not seeking fame either by forwarding these tapes, rather I knew this would be a peril to my life. Why would I put my life in peril again, after my life was already in peril for exposing the mass child mistreatment. Then the Jayapataka people complained that they had to spend $100,000,000 after I supported various lawsuits. Why is ISKCON spending $100,000,000 fighting crazy people? 

Sorry, we have professional forensic experts backing our claim, and the GBC's experts were proven to be frauds. To insult me as a crazy man who wants fame does not answer all the self evident questions, for starters, why was I told this is a homicide by the Bengali man and also by a close Prabhupada associate Brjabasi, who was crying when I played him the tape? 

Was he crying because he is a crazy many who wants fame? No, same thing, he fears these people and does not want his name mentioned. Calling us crazy liars is how the child mistreatment was also handled ... I am well used to it by now. Calling us people crazy liars if GBC pt. II, we have heard it all before a million times. Naveen and others are also not crazy people, they just confirmed what the Bengali man told me from square one. But I knew something bad was going on before I even gave the tape to the Bengali man. ys pd

Lila Shakti: Gregory Michal Scharf, Yes Prabhu. We know who is that crazy man and his stupid conspiracy theories!

Madhavi Khurana Piotr Woyno please listen to the recordings of November 1977. Srila Prabhupada himself was the one "who started this conspiracy theory". 

Gregory Michal Scharf Brahmananda was present?! Didn't notice his name in the transcripts of those November 1977 recordings! Perhaps it would be good for you to hear the recordings yourself, Prabhu and read the transcripts of the November tapes before you make and publish a judgement on such an important and pivotal matter!!

Srila Prabhupada DID say he was being poisoned on November 8, 1977 (conversation books)! That is why there was a BIG commotion! Bhakti Caru was VERY alarmed! The kaviraja was intensely inquiring and there was a LOT of discussion with Tamal and Bhavananda! How can you boldly say that "this is all nonsense"! How DARE you mislead people like that!

The discussion picked up again on the next day. And then on the 10th there was discussion about Srila Prabhupada's gong on parikrama. THAT is when he called his "caretakers", "Ravana"!

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This seems like suicide, Śrīla Prabhupāda, this program. It seems to some of us like it's suicidal.

Prabhupāda: And this is also suicidal.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hmm. Prabhupāda said, "And this is also suicide." Now you have to choose which suicide.

Prabhupāda: The Rāvaṇa will kill and Rāma will kill. Better to be killed by Rāma. Eh? That Marikhi—if he does not go to mislead Sītā, he'll be killed by Rāvaṇa; and if he goes to be killed by Rāma, then it is better.

NOTICE that Tamal says, "Now you have to choose which suicide"!!! And when Srila Prabhupada makes his "Ravana" statement, Tamal just goes on and changes the subject!! WHY?! Wouldn't YOU be alarmed at his statement?!!

And as far as accusing Nityananda Prabhu of "coming up with this 'conspiracy theory' for fame and fortune", that is just really laughable!! What kind of "fame" do you think he's gotten by compiling this evidence?! Mostly negative "fame" like you are promoting.

And fortune?! That's a completely ridiculous statement! HOW has he, or WILL he, gain "fortune" from this project?! Rather, he has invested tens of thousands of dollars into careful and professional forensic research...something that your GBC refused to do!! They have MUCH more important things to spend their $$ on, like comfy accommodations and travel for themselves!

PLEASE don't speak when you don't have accurate knowledge. IF your brother was there...do you think that the poisoners would have let him know they were poisoning Srila Prabhupada?! Obviously not! And obviously also, Brahmananda Prabhu wasn't there every minute of every day, and apparently NOT when Srila Prabhupada HIMSELF spoke of being poisoned!!

Mayesvara Dasa: Dr. Lemos affadavit and qualifications can all be found at:

https://samadhitattva.com/category/drlemos/

PADA: Mayesvara Dasa Yes, samadhi for child predators, we got that already. ys pd

Mayesvara Dasa

You don't "Get" anything correctly!

PADA: Mayesvara Dasa Yes, the GBC made a samadhi for a child predator. My friends in Vrndavana are mortified, but they said complaining could put their lives in peril, so they have to not complain. We know all about your samadhi tattvas. Giriraj is back to wearing orange and hanging out with Vaisesika like there is no problem, and my friends here said that Silicon Valley guys simply have no idea how badly this looks to the public, nor do they care. I told them,he is another predator posing as a messiah, it is all part of the club. ys pd

Ron Jermakian: Can we at least get an AI summary on this thread? (not that I'm too dumb or lazy to follow links, lol...)

Chitramalini Kesavi Chandana Hazarika: Hare Krishna Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisances 🙏. Kindly share the report 🙏

Madana Gopal: Iskcon has never done a proper scientific in depth, investigation into this allegation, that iskcon calls a poison conspiracy theory. its no theory there is definitely enough evidence to warrant a proper investigation, instead of some half baked un-financed rubbish that they published called not that Im poisoned, which never addressed any of the questions or evidence at hand, never did any of there own scientific testing. and worked consistently behind the scenes against anyone or any group who inquired or investigated the poison issue, instead chose to criticise concerned devotees, who had paid thousands of dollars to have the proper scientific tests completed by world experts. 

You cant just brush these experts aside and call it a conspiracy theory. Iskcon has never given any answers to the scientific evidence or questions asked, preferring to at all costs avoid confronting the real evidence and in so doing brainwashing the current vaishnava community, that there is no evidence. But in actual fact there is definitely loads of evidence to warrant a proper investigation.

John S Stead: Why is this important prabhu? Didn't Srila Prabhupada simple disappear due to old age? 

Mahabhagavata Dasi: So many want to believe it. Thank you. Great service.

Ratnamaya Nimai Das: Hare krishna Prabhuji i offering my humble obeisances into ur lotus feet 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

Lalita Liechti: Hare Ktsna Gargamuni Prabhu. So what are the results of the test?

Anusha Mohan: psdmohan@gmail.com

Nandini Mohindra: Great but what do I do about Srila Prabhupad’s hair sample?

Lila Shakti: His Divine Grace was never poisoned. Thank you!

JS: Why is this important prabhu? Didn't Srila Prabhupada simple disappear due to old age?

Madhavi Khurana: Anything in relation to Srila Prabhupada is important. The specific reason THIS issue is important is that it points to the HORRIFYING possibility that some of Srila Prabhupada's "closest disciples" poisoned Srila Prabhupada with malefic intent!

Why would they do that? What was the motive? Look no further than "becoming guru themselves"...and all the fame, profit, distinction, and adoration that entailed. Surely you're aware of the history AND all the fallout and disasters that move caused!

And now, the GBC STILL won't HONESTLY look at ANY of the issues (initiation, Deity worship, BOOK CHANGES, child abuse!); they still operate in a bubble, thinking they are "above the law" and can do anything they want!