BBT Imbroglio / New Dallas Temple / Who is Pure? / Padmanabha / Yadubara 07 01 26

 

DALLAS PRABHUPANDANUGAS

PADA: Our Prabhupadanuga friends are making a nice big temple in Dallas, Texas (room for 500 guests). There is an old large house already on the property, they are using for now. 

There are also imported India cows there, and have gardens and etc. These are the same type cows they imported for the San Francisco area (Silicon Valley) center near here. Very nice people from the center here will be going there for the grand opening which is July 11th. 

They will also be making a Rathayatra and other festivals, and gurukula for children etc. The same thing is going on here, there is a smaller structure while the big temple is under construction. The temple here will be the largest Radha Krishna temple on the West Coast when completed. This is the proposed Dallas temple view when it is completed. Our other friends in Dallas are also starting to attend their program, so it is off to a good start. Anyone in the Dallas area should help them get up and running. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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WE WERE HACKED!

PADA: Prabhupada truth commission website has been hacked. They are trying to get it back up and running. But hey, the same type GBC goondas sent bomb threats to the little teeny 98lbs lady who was managing my first internet services in LA. She said she could report them but "why waste time on a bunch of a**holes"? Hee hee! That means they know our info is a threat to the pedophile messiah's project. ys pd 

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WHO IS THE PURE DEVOTEE NOW?

DEAN BALARAM

Bhima prabhu, Hare Krsna,
it is a great question easily answered in so many ways:

The Question from Bhima Prabhu:

How do you make enquiries to Srila Prabhupada? And how do you get direct and personal instructions from him ? Through the books?

1. When Prabhupada physically departed in 1977 there were 1 week. 1 month, 1 year and max 12 year old Prabhupada disciples, how did they continue enquiries, guidence and purfication till now in 2026?


2. ONE CAN DERIVE FROM THE STUDY OF THE BHÄGAVATAM ALL BENEFITS THAT ARE POSSIBLE TO BE DERIVED FROM THE PERSONAL PRESENCE OF THE LORD. It carries with it all the transcendental blessings of Lord Şri Krsna that we can expect FROM HIS PERSONAL CONTACT. (SB 1-3-40 end of purport)

3. "These are not ordinary books. It is recorded chanting. ANYONE WHO READS, HE IS HEARING." ~ Srila Prabhupada 

4. Eternal bond between disciple and Spiritual Master begins from the day HE HEARS." S.P Letter to Jadurani, 4/9/72

5. Reporter: Who will succeed you when you die?

Srila Prabhupada: I will never die!

Devotees :Jaya! Haribol!

Srila Prabhupada: I WILL LIVE FOREVER FROM MY BOOKS AND YOU WILL UTILISE!

6. "You have understood the importance of my books. Without being asked, you published and distributed my books.THE TEMPLES MAY FAIL, THE DEVOTEES MAY FAIL, BUT MY BOOKS WILL LIVE FOREVER."London, September 1974).

7. Bhaktivinoda Thakur says: “He reasons ill who tells that Vaisnavas die When thou art living still in sound! The Vaisnavas die to live, and living try To spread the holy name around!”

8. Prabhupada: So in my absence you read the books. What I talk, I have written in the books. That's all.

Indian Man: Personally, we think more greater.

Prabhupada: That's all right. But still, YOU CAN ASSOCIATE WITH ME BY READING MY BOOKS.

Indian Man: I am reading books Prabhupada. That books are your very, very good and most blessful to us. It is the biggest good will upon whole of universe at present. ~Morning Walk -- August 7, 1975, Toronto

9. "The Spiritual Master is present wherever his SINCERE disciple is trying to serve his instructions. This is possible by the Mercy of Krsna. In your attempts to serve me and in all your SINCERE devotional sentiments I am with you as my Guru Maharaja is with me. Remember this always." Srila Prabhupada letter, 12/01/73)

10. In my books the philosophy of Krishna consciousness is explained fully, so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily the knowledge will be revealed to you....You may please me the most by reading my books and following the instructions therein. ~November 22, 1974

11. "So we should give more stress on the sound vibration, either of Krsna or Spiritual Master. Never think that I am absent from you, presence by message (or hearing) is the real touch." SP Letter to students, August 1967

12."So although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the Spiritual Master, vibration. What we have heard from the Spiritual Master, THAT IS LIVING." SP lecture given on 1-16-69

13. "The spiritual master by his words, can penetrate into the heart of the suffering person and inject knowledge transcendental which alone can extinguish the fire of material existence." (S.B. 1.7.22, purport)

14. WE SING EVERY MORNING TO SRILA PRABHUPADA:
My only wish is to have my consciousness purified by the words emanating from his lotus mouth. Attachment to his lotus feet is the perfection that fulfills all desires. 

15. He opens my darkened eyes and fills my heart with transcendental knowledge. He is my Lord birth after birth.  From him ecstatic prema emanates; by him ignorance is destroyed. The Vedic scriptures sing of his character.

16. "Diksa actually means *initiating* a disciple *with transcendental knowledge* by which he becomes freed from all material contamination." (Madhya-lila, 4:112, Purport)

17. There are two conceptions, the physical conception and the vibrational conception. The physical conception is temporary. The vibrational conception is eternal.[...] When we feel separation from Krishna or the Spiritual Master, we should just try to remember their words or instructions, and we will no longer feel that separation. Such association with Krishna and the Spiritual Master should be association by vibration not physical presence. That is real association."
(Elevation to Krishna Consciousness, chapter 4)

18. if we develop Kṛṣṇa consciousness by association of devotees... As Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura has sung, tāṅdera caraṇa-sevi-bhakta-sane vāsa [Nāma-saṅkīrtana 7]. One's aim of life should be to serve the ācāryas. Ācārya upāsanam. So our ācārya in the Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava Sampradāya, the śrī-rūpa
sanātana bhaṭṭa-raghunātha, śrī-jīva gopāla-bhaṭṭa dāsa-raghunātha, the six
Gosvāmīs, and if we associate with them... This book, Nectar of Devotion,
Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, if you read regularly, try to understand, this means
you are associating with Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī directly. And if you act
accordingly, then you are serving their lotus feet.

19. "this means you are associating with Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī directly"

20. Prabhupāda: YES, I AM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THIS INSTITUTION, AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MY DISCIPLES. They follow the rules and regulation which I ask them to follow, and they are initiated by me spiritually https://vanisource.org/wiki/680312_-_Interview_-_San_Francisco

21. "So my Guru Maharaja will be very, very much pleased with you ... it is not that he is dead and gone. THAT IS NOT SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING ... he is seeing. I never feel that I am alone." ~Lecture, 2/3/75

22. I asked, “Prabhupada, sometimes I have problems and the spiritual master isn’t there and it’s too detailed for the scriptures. What should I do?” And he said, “If you chant Hare Krishna very nicely, ALL THE ANSWERS WILL COME FROM WITHIN.”

I hope this helps you get a better understanding of this issue. Srila Prabhupada is very much alive, well and already interacting with you and anyone who is trying to follow his teachings inside Iskcon or outside of Iskcon. Srila Prabhupada like Krsna is not limited nor is he sectarian. Jayaaaa Prabhupada

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SWAMI PADMANABHA PROMOTES (Meat eating) RITVIKS.

SWAMI PADMANABHA: Join us for the second step of our La Verna Pilgrimage as we explore the profound spiritual parallels between Saint Francis and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu—two luminaries whose lives are embodied scripture: divine love, radical simplicity, and ecstatic devotion. Discover how their lives inspire us to deepen our practice and embody divine love in everyday life. In this exploration, we reflect on the embodiment of divine love and ecstasy, the transformative power of simplicity and poverty as spiritual practice, and the courage to renew tradition from within. 

PADA: Yes, rather amazing the people who are worshiping Srila Prabhupada -- have been chased out, had legal restraining orders made, and sued for $20,000,000 by Mayapur folks calling them "the bogus ritviks." And Swami Padmanabha follows the Gaudiya Matha's Sridhara Maharaja, who is against our ritvik idea, rather Sridhara prefers people worship his illicit sex messiahs and not a real messiah.  

However, the GBC / Sridhara / Narayan maharaja folks regularly have interfaith meetings with the Christian "ritviks." Evidently, only the ritvik religion which eats meat is welcome into the sacred halls of ISKCON or their associated Gaudiya Matha / Narayan Maharaja assembly. But we Prabhupadanugas are not welcome in their process. 

The curiculum here is self evident, meat eater religions are welcomed, those who do not eat meat, are banned, beat, sued and banished. And Dayaram re-started another $20,000,000 lawsuit this January to chase out the Vegetarian ritviks. 

Did someone forget to tell them, they should be spending all this lavish amount of money on their gurukula children -- and not on buying new Armani suits for lawyers? No wonder the kids complain of bad gurukulas, the money is going for lawyers and not schools. But the question always remains, why do these people almost exclusively favor the beef eating "ritvik" religions and not the Prabhupada worship religion? 

ys pd

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A dark chapter of ISKCON history - part four

Discarding International Law & Allying with the Taliban?

At one point our heroes at the GHQ (General Headquarters) apparently expressed the wish to delegitimize and dismantle internationally established standards of legal protections for women. Bhakti Vikasa Swami lamented reading the transcript of a recent meeting (we are talking of the late ‘90s) in which someone had "presented the rights of women in Iskcon according to International Law."

He found it “frightening … the possibility that our liberated mothers might throw the karmi law book at us and use the clout of state law to enforce 'womens’ rights' in our temples and communities.”

I am not so sure what he was afraid of. What did he find so “frightening”?
(If anyone has a clue, please share.) What’s the risk of men’s claims and demands over women being restrained by the judicial system?

Are we saying that women shouldn’t have any legal protection whatsoever?
Actually more we read their exchanges, more we strongly feel that men such as the members of the GHQ (General Headquarters) should be firmly restricted by legal means to prevent them from using and abusing women.

At one point, Shyamasundara (the astrologer) asked:

“You think we could get Taliban support?”

Yes, the Taliban appear like fitting, natural allies for these men. Perhaps it can even be branded as an “interfaith dialogue” – getting together and brainstorming on how to better bully and enslave women. ---to be continued---

For a longer article on the ISKCON Vaishnavi Ministry site, “The Anti-Vaishnavi 

GHQ” – by Lilamayi Gaurangi:

https://vaishnaviministry.org/anti-vaishnavi-ghq/

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SDG's Lilamrita “Now that his (SATSVARUPA DAS GOSWAMI): facade of guruship has been exposed as a sham, we should warn of his 1983 GBC “authorized” Srila Prabhuupada biography: Srila Prabhupada lilamrta (LM). 

LM is quite dangerous since it mixes truth with illusion, the mundane with transcendental. "Intermingling the spiritual with the material causes one to look on transcendence as material and mundane as spiritual. All this is due to a poor fund of knowledge." (CC Mad 16.72 purport)

This might explain SATS’ past infatuations with mundane songs, poetry, jazz, paintings, and another’s wife; all while as a spiritual master. Many appreciated LM due to its Srila Prabhupada quotes but SATS has also weaved in his own mundane bias and self-interest. LM was poisoned to subtly, offensively portray Srila Prabhupada as an ordinary man, and this was (consciously or not) part of the successor hijacker gurus in ISKCON bringing Srila Prabhupada down to their own level as conditioned souls. 

Throughout, LM insidiously implies that Srila Prabhupada was an ordinary human being with all the regular frailties, fears and insecurities. The book is subtitled: "A very real human story," and in the introduction SATS writes: "I invite the reader to enjoy the very real, human life story of Srila Prabhupada."

Perhaps this is just in case anyone might get the wrong impression that Srila Prabhupada was in any way superhuman or transcendental. The correct scriptural understanding is: "...the spiritual master is the sum total of all demigods." (SSR, Ch. 2) "A person acting in the service of Krishna with his body, mind and words is a liberated person, even within the material world." (Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu 1.2.187) "Therefore, one is forbidden to regard the guru as an ordinary human being [...] The spiritual master, or acharya, is always situated in the spiritual status of life. Birth, death, old age and disease do not affect him." (SBhag 10.4.20 prpt) (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories 2.255)

PADA: Yep, PADA was writing how the Lilamrta is defective almost as soon as it came out. Very conditioned understanding of pure devotees. 

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PEAS IN A PADA

YADUBARJA and Vishaka

Prabhupada explains, “If one accepts a spiritual master, one can learn to distinguish between matter and spirit, and that becomes the steppingstone for further spiritual realization. A spiritual master, by various instructions, teaches his students to get free from the material concept of life.” (Bhagavad-gita 13.35, Purport)

Now John and I photographed with knowledge of our relationship with Krishna, knowing Him as the supreme governing principle, as the one who knows everything, who is the oldest, the all-pervading origin of everything, and the ultimate controller and maintainer. He is knowledge, the object of knowledge, and the goal of knowledge.

As for my old report on Wales, well, “The purpose of education is to understand Krishna and His devotional service. If one does not do so, then education is false.” (Chaitanya-bhagavata, Antya 3.44, quoted in Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.29.50, Purport)

Or in Krishna’s words in the Bhagavad-gita (9.2), spiritual knowledge is “the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed.”

PADA: If one accepts the GBC's gurus, who are often found engaged in illicit sex with men, women and maybe children, or maybe goats and cats, one can distinguish matter from spirit? OK so we have to promote the GBC's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's program to know the difference between matter and spirit? Wow, the GBC's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club, which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas is "eternal and joyful." Joyful for whom, the perps and their enablers? Fer sure, not joyful for the victims, as per their complaints made to PADA.  

Who gets their jollies by promoting such a sordid guru lineage? The pedophile messiah's club is representing "knowledge that is the king of education." Well yeah, after being victims of their process, we NOW have the knowledge that these people are servants of Kali Yuga. 

Thanks LM prabhu, yeah you are right, this explains why Yadubara and Vishakha, and most of the GBC guru crowd, always looks like they just sucked on a lemon. You said they about as joyful as a dead rat, and you could be correct. OK their illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's program makes illicit sex all pervading in their empire, you said it!

Hee hee! ys pd 

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YOU ARE STUCK IN A LOOP

NATALIE RAW

WHAT IF YOU AREN’T LIVING… YOU’RE JUST LOOPING?

I keep hearing this New Age nonsense that “we came here to experience” and that “the Creator is experiencing itself through us.” Really? Let’s think about that for a second. If this place has existed for thousands, millions, or even billions of years… and souls have supposedly been incarnating over and over and over again… Then how many times does the Creator need to experience heartbreak?

How many times does it need to experience war? How many times does it need to experience poverty, betrayal, disease, abuse, loss, suffering, hunger, greed, jealousy, and death? At what point does the lesson end? At what point has it experienced enough?

Because from where I’m standing, humanity isn’t evolving. Humanity is repeating.
The same wars. The same lies. The same corruption. The same manipulation. The same suffering recycled through different faces and different generations.
People call it living.

I call it looping. You are born. You are programmed. You chase money. You pay bills. You get distracted. You get sick. You grow old. You die. Then they tell you to come back and do it all again because there is still another “lesson” to learn.
How many lessons do you need before you realize the classroom itself might be the trap?

Maybe the goal isn’t to experience more. Maybe the goal is to remember. To remember who you were before the programming. Before the fear. Before the limitations. Before the endless cycle of amnesia.

Because if a being is truly infinite, all-knowing, and eternal, what exactly is it still trying to learn from watching people struggle through the same script for the millionth time? That’s the question nobody wants to ask. And that’s why I ask it.
If these kinds of conversations make you uncomfortable, good. Discomfort is where real questioning begins.

And if you’re tired of surface-level spirituality, recycled self-help clichés, and narratives that never quite add up, join my subscriber community. That’s where we go deeper. No filters. No sugarcoating. No sacred cows. Just raw conversations, uncomfortable questions, and perspectives most people are too afraid to explore.

PADA: Yeah, this is obviously a big problem with mayavada-ism. "We are all God experiencing the material world." Why would God make all this suffering, birth and death and etc. -- as His eternal pastime? Makes no sense. 

Purujit's Book / Sulochana Conspiracy Exposed / Vipramukhya / Cults 06 29 26

Don't worry, be happy.  

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PURUJIT'S WEIRD AND SCARY AI ART IMBROGLIO

JND: (Edit: Within less than 1 hour of making this post Purujit, who created these images, has blocked me on facebook, and the "Bhaktivedanta" page that published these hideous AI images -- blocked me. Their reaction to honest criticism tells me more about their character than anything else.)

These AI photos of acharyas are all distorted, not authentic and disgusting. This is a clear sign of no proper guidance or understanding. The irony is they label this as "an authorized biography of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada". It is not authorized because the people creating this AI fantasy have no understanding how to respect the images of the saints and acharyas. 

Who has "authorized" them to create these hideous AI images, which at best depict random likenesses of Indians from the AI database. It has zero connection to the personalities being discussed. These are not images of Srila Prabhupada, nor Bhaktivinoda Thakur, nor Gaura Kishora Das Babaji. They are just AI creations of people with generic random Indian likenesses, now being passed off as representations of the Lord's pure devotees and acharyas.

They could have filled this book with archival black and white real photos of most of these people, and it would have been excellent. Instead they fill it with hideous AI images that look nothing like reality. It is a display of bad judgement and discrimination.

Pointing this out does not imply they are bad people or that they have demonic intentions. I don't know them personally to judge what their intentions are. It could just be over enthusiasm with bad judgement. They are clearly not as good at using AI as they think they are. Everyone should know their own limitations and the limitations of technology. There are some people who can use AI and create excellent images, and there are others who just post random prompts and think they have created an accurate masterpiece. Most people fall in the second category and should not be using AI to create spiritual content.

PADA: Purujit folks are trying to advertise themselves as authorized because their book is accepted by ISKCON's molester messiah project's leaders, including the head honcho of Auschwitz for kids and BVKS etc. Sorry, that is REALLY a bad advertisement. ISKCON's killer clown acharyas love our book, really?

Of course the GBC people never advertise our materials, and there is a reason. Meanwhile! The images they used inside the book are not very well done, and sometimes look just a little bit creepy, menacing, and just spooky and scary. But in any case, not authentic.  

They have NOT done a good job here, according to a lot of critics. I think they were doing a rush job, and they did not consult with any of us on the content, and they made some serious errors. At the same time HKC Jaipur's Third Reich clan member Mathura Pati has been hanging out with Purujit, and not us, and this explains why he does so. They just don't pay attention to details. 

They are still clinging to the old guard for approval, recognition and authorization, and we aren't. Yeah -- someone said, the people advertising Purujit's book look just as scary as the AI pics he has made inside his book. Whole thing is frightening! As per usual, whenever we comment on these issues, the Purujit guys make fun of us, hey just like the GBC people! 

Did I forget to mention, when I told Jayapataka we will suffer if we take sins, he thought that was a comedy hour joke? Is he still laughing now? Meanwhile Mukunda UK, who has lifted much of his material off our PADA web sites, is crying that Purujit stole his "Lilamrita" book, and made it as his own. 

These guys are always trying to self promote themselves and not so much promote Srila Prabhupada. I see PADA's stuff being "stolen" all the time and it makes me happy, our stuff is getting out there. Goody. Some guy steals our images and quotes all the time, using his name and not giving us credit. 

That means, he likes our stuff and wants to get out there. I am happy the info is being promoted, not crying that it is being stolen. These people want credit for promoting "their work," and that explains why they are going to the wrong places, including ISKCON leaders, for validation and credit. 

This is not too impressive IMHO. Anyway, the Mukunda book does have many good quotes -- to his credit, but unfortunately most people steer away from his works because his other stuff is so nutty, he has damaged his trademark brand. Anyway I agree, the images are not good and that has damaged credibility of the book. And then getting validation from the GBC's clown car gurus and leaders, worse validation.  

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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CONSPIRACY TO MURDER

June 29, 1986: On or around this date in history, a few weeks after the assassination of the Bhaktipada critic and whistle-blower, Sulochan (Steve Bryant), Radhanath Swami, deeply troubled in his mind, confesses his involvement in the murder conspiracy to his godbrother Jagad Guru Swami, while both sit on a Pacific Ocean beach in San Diego.

Jagad Guru Swami (1946-2020), a disciple of Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who later became known as Bhakti Gaurava Narasingha Maharaja, claims Radhanath spoke to him in great anxiety, "What was I supposed to do under those circumstances? We were convinced that Bhaktipada was a pure devotee and that Sulochan was determined to murder him, so we thought we were obligated to stop some demon from killing a pure devotee by any means possible.”

Although I had heard this story earlier, Bhakti Gaurava Narasingha Maharaja confirmed it to me in a February 7, 2019 Facebook message a year before his death.

For more, see Killing For Krishna, p. 481.
http://henrydoktorski.com/Killing4Krishna.html

PADA: I have to give Henry some credit for naming names on the Sulochana hit team, and the advisors / behind the scenes enablers and promoters of the hit team. He gets some merits here, and demerits in other places. But it took a lot of courage to point to these guys by name. And most devotees would never go public despite knowing all sorts of things -- even worse stuff than me or Henry knows -- because they are fearful, acquiescing, enabling and compromised. ys pd

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UKRAINE IS NOT BEING "SAVED" 

PADA: Yeah prabhu, sorry but my Hindu nurse friend was in Mariupal, she says they levelled her apartment and all the others in the city, taking out tens of thousands of people and then there was a stink of dead bodies all over the place. She only survived because she was in a heavy bathtub and that absorbed the shrapnel, but there was a lot of screaming people all over who did get shrapnel in them, including many children. 

It is amazing that Russians think people like a Hindu nurse living in an apartment are a threat to their national security. She finally walked for days and eventually made it to Poland, but she says she will never forget all the bodies everywhere, the screaming, the smell of the bodies etc. She still has nightmares. 

So yeah, taking out Hindu nurses is the way to make Russia more secure, hee hee. But now Russia is running out of gas, maybe they will stop taking out nurses when they run out of gas. Every day these guys have gas, another Hindu nurse gets whacked somewhere in Ukraine. The way Russia saves things, is to blow it to pieces until there is not one building left standing. That is not saving these cities, it is levelling them to rubble and killing the inhabitants. I fail to see how this is svaing these cities. ys pd

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Dayananda's Post

Dayananda Das Vanachari

RE: Vipramukhya, Wayne Boyd

Vipramukhya left. I was not irritated, just indifferent. Now he has come back with a vengeance, trying to attack the faith of the followers. That is damn irritating. With this opening, I took considerable time writing a response to what I perceive as Wayne Boyd's unacceptable attempts to attack the faith of the faithful.

In the back of my mind, it was an open letter to him, attacking his irresponsibility. However, due to my language, tone, or perhaps my lack of properly strategizing, it did not communicate the way I had intended. Some wonderful devotees spent time commenting on my post, so they remain here. I think their comments stand well independent of my article.

Damodara Dasa

I have also noticed Wayne’s re-emergence as interesting. I don’t know him well enough to have a particular take on his motives that would be anything other than speculation.

But I would observe that those who abandon religion - and perhaps their vows in particular - tend to feel the urge to continually justify their position. Perhaps there is an element of “misery loves company” - that I will feel more affirmed in the validity of my rejecting the guru, the movement, the philosophical stance, if I can get others to agree with me….. and of course most atheists are anything other than detached from religious thought. 

They feel compelled - for reasons they don’t typically examine - to keep espousing their rejection of religious thought, often even going as far as to ridicule theistic thought. They argue that it is important to contest religion as it is a societal harm. While there may be some truth to this - often in Kali Yuga religions are unwholesome, full of hypocrisy and cheating - it also reads as a rationalisation. They completely overlook their own bias - often due to some adverse experiences with religion - and claim that their position is purely rationally informed. The sheer amount of emotional loading in their critiques suggest otherwise.

Those who give up their vows - and particularly abandon disciples - likely have a lot of guilt to reckon with. Of course, it is tempting to invalidate the whole endeavour - which gets them off the hook psychologically. Now they are no longer a failed disciple, a vantasi, weak-willed, etc. All of a sudden they become a discerning critical thinker.

I fully support anyone engaged in sincere and genuine epistemological inquiry. I take no issue with the world’s agnostics and probably have more in common with them than I do with dogmatic religious fanatics.

But atheism often masquerades as being a fully rational position. And that is intellectually dishonest. It is rarely a carefully reasoned position.

Wayne now professes full conviction in “scientific conclusions” such as evolutionary theory. He makes it his daily business to criticise his former guru’s arguments. Who is he actually trying to convince? Is he trying to recruit others so that he doesn’t feel so alone in abandoning Prabhupada and his vows? Or is he still trying to assuage his own guilty conscience?

I honestly don’t know. And these are questions for him to resolve for himself.

Dayananda Das Vanachari

Damodara Dasa: Yes, I agree with you. I know him fairly well; he and I served together in Iran. I decided to take an aggressive approach.

Vrajasevika Dasi: I don't personally know Mr. Boyd / HG Vipramukhya Das, but i have read many of his recent posts. My feeling was not at all that he is full of vengeance, nor is he trying to destroy anyone's faith, nor is he looking for followers. He is just explaining his views and why it makes sense to him.

Sometimes devotees, and maybe also others, ask him why he has left ISKCON, so he is explaining why. That is my understanding.

I didn't find this irritating. I found it kind. He is taking the time out to explain. I find it very inspiring how he is not blaming anyone for having left, nor for having been in ISKCON. He takes full responsibility. I find his dealings very fair and respectful. He joined ISKCON because he then believed in Srila Prabhupada's teachings, and at one point he got doubts, and slowly his beliefs changed. And now he believes something else.

He isn't trying to make a come back in iskcon. Some devotees were interested to understand why he left, and he was reflecting on that and replying them.

Dayananda Das Vanachari

Vrajasevika Dasi Thank you for your opinion. I do not share your view on this. However, I have removed my original article.

I wrote it not in the spirit of philosophy. Instead, it was written to a younger brother who decided, after fathering several children (disciples), to abandon them. He left the children for some time, did not pay child support, then returned to criticize the mother of his children and the rest of his family.

I did not mention this father-children analogy in my article, nor is that precisely the point I made, but for the sake of brevity it is close enough. In any case, I have decided not to progress any further. In fact, if you want me to agree with everything you have written here, I am happy to do that.

Damodara Dasa

The hilarious irony is that although progressed atheists nearly all subscribe to the protest / trope that “theists are shoving religion down everyone’s throat”, they are also “evangelical” about pushing their own epistemological conclusions, every bit as insufferable religious zealots. Hypocrites. And not as bright as they imagine themselves to be - certainly lacking self insight.

Science is a legitimate “knowledge acquiring strategy”. But to try hold up non-belief as a virtue is to claim that distrusting others is, in and of itself, some kind of intellectual accomplishment. Why should others’ convictions be something that this group of people feel compelled to attack - and unkindly at that?

Das Goravani

I haven't seen anything from him. Where does he post his views?

PADA: Well yeah, why was Vipramukhya made into a sum total of the demigods messiah, when he was borderline atheist? Vipramukhya lost faith in the religion, and so did a lot of others, and that means their faith was not very connected in the first place. 

A person who is truly connected to Krishna, even on the neophyte level, will never be able to break that connection, despite hell, high water, or threats from GBC bozo enforcers etc. Sorry they did not really lose faith, their faith was superficial and sentimental and not based on any solid realization. 

Of course us neophytes can be shaken up and fall down into all sorts of abominable behaviors, as we see in spades. But a neophyte who has actually realized that Krishna is God, even if he fails into abominable material attachments on many other levels, will continue to know Krishna is God, no matter how badly he fails in other areas. 

So there are different levels of kanistha, and some kanisthas have very weak connections, some have more solid ones, but those who give up on Krishna were never really connected to Him in any factual manner from square one, that is my understanding. And this is why people write to PADA, why does the GBC keep making these falling down if not boderline atheistic people into acharyas? Yup. ys pd  

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GOOD ADVICE

IZZY: I was a part of a cult.

I know, it's crazy. I get weird looks, laughs, and a mix of other reactions whenever I share about this. I was, for years, heavily connected to and involved with the International House of Prayer in Kansas City MO, and I eventually moved there and became a worship leader intern in 2009. I remained heavily connected with the movement throughout my 20s, and spent years in leadership of the local house of prayer in Indianapolis, IN.

But, it was a cult.

For decades, the leader of the ministry Mike Bickle was sexually abusing women and using the ministry to target the women. Everything came to light a few years ago, and the ministry did a horrendous job of cleaning up the mess and actively attempted to avoid accountability and cover things up. The whole organization then collapsed.

If leaders can't do the right thing when something as aggregious as assault and abuse occurs, how can they be trusted to lead anything else? My experience there, and the ministry's eventual downfall, had a deep impact on me at the core level, and it shaped me profoundly as a leader.

It's why, as a brand new commander of a Battalion Headquarters and Headquarters Company, I did what I did. After 9 drilling days with my unit, I uncovered sexual assault and harassment that had been occurring for 3 years at the hands of a senior NCO in the battalion staff. People knew about it, and chose not to act.

When I tried to initiate an investigation, I was told to "point the victims to the Brigade Equal Opportunity Laison, and then table it." 

I knew this was the wrong answer, and because of what I witnessed at the cult, I knew that "tabling it" would lead to the immediate and drastic erosion of trust within the unit. So, I called the lawyers at State JAG and kicked off an investigation that eventually led to the predatory NCO being fired from the Army. I paid a heavy price for it - but I would make that decision 10x over, time and time again.

If you are a leader - a leader within a church, a business, a community leader or influencer, or a leader who wears a uniform -- DO NOT tolerate things like assault, harassment, bullying, hazing, or prejudism. These behaviors will destroy your organization. You will "lose the good ones" if you sweep these things under the rug, and you will watch victim after victim leave.

Do the hard thing. Pursue justice. Choose righteousness. Protect your people, even if it puts a target on your back. Because at the end of the day, when you look at yourself in the mirror, you can be proud of yourself for doing the right thing, and know that God is proud of you, too.

"Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow." Isaiah 1:17 (NIV)

Tulsi / GHQ / Ramesvara Fail / BB Govinda / ETC. 06 28 26

The residents of Vrndavana

were captivated by Krishna's childhood pastimes.

TULSI'S 5,000 YEAR TRADITION  

K Dasi: The articles written about Tulsi Gabbard are offensive to Vaisnavas. Calling a tradition that is 5,000 years old a "cult" is spin at its best. Having a guru is part of being a Hindu, just like having a priest you ask for advice is part of being Catholic. And the timing of the article is so obviously to distract from the incriminating emails she released about Fauci breaking the law and causing the pandemic.

PADA: OK so having a guru is part of the 5,000 years tradition. But Siddhaswarupa aka Chris Butler is not an authorized guru, and he has a lot of off the wall ideas, eccentric behaviors, overly done titles etc. And many of the followers have not understood the actual siddhanta. OK it is "a cult." 

Of course there is some sort of Krishna consciousness idea in his program, and that is to his credit, but he should not promote himself as a divine being -- when he isn't. Yeah I know, his program has a better image than ISKCON, but that is not a whole lot to brag about. Thus no, I do not think Tulsi understands the differences among the various camps, or why the Prabhupadanuga idea is the right path. ys pd

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ISKCON'S GHQ 

A dark chapter of ISKCON history – part six

The Earl of Chesterfield Knew Better than Srila Prabhupada!

Although the people on the GHQ (General Headquarters) like to think of themselves as very sastric, they don’t disdain dipping into other sources of wisdom, when it fits their purpose of humiliating women. Here, for instance, is one more quote shared by Shyamasundara on the GHQ conference, this time a splendid statement from Philip Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield:

“A man of sense only trifles with them [women], plays with them, humors and flatters them, as he does with a sprightly and forward child; but he neither consults them about, nor trusts them with, serious matters.”

Srila Prabhupada unfortunately didn’t heed the above advice, and entrusted important tasks to women, even the worship of Deities (besides, of course, instructing ALL his disciples, men and women, to become spiritual masters).
That was probably a very imprudent mistake on his part, one we can hope the valiant GHQ warriors will fix.

For a longer article on the ISKCON Vaishnavi Ministry site, “The Anti-Vaishnavi GHQ” – by Lilamayi Gaurangi:

https://vaishnaviministry.org/anti-vaishnavi-ghq/

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YOU ARE MAKING RAMESVARA FALL (+ Amber Lynn)

PADA: A devotee said that when he reported Ramesvara's dating a young gurukula girl, many Los Angeles devotees told him to shut up, be quiet -- because "you are going to make Ramesvara fail." In other words, the overall devotee community knew Ramesvara was deviating, and he was victimizing one or more females, and yet the overall devotee community wanted to keep the problem a secret -- so the illusion that Ramesvara is a pure devotee could continue on. 

Now people are asking, why wasn't Ramesvara reported to the police for dating his minor aged female student? Why was nothing ever reported to the police then or subsequently? 

Of course, we all know the tragic result that process created for Sulochana and almost, me. But this shows how the community often has a role in enabling predators and abusers, and this has happened all too numerous times in ISKCON. When I was reporting on Jayatirtha's sex-capades, same thing, most devotees shut me down and told me to stop complaining or "you will bring down Jayatirtha." So what? 

OK what about the victims of these gurus sex-capades? So yeah, ISKCON's guru crisis was aided and abetted by many rank and file helpers. The rank and file covering for the bogus leader is a commonly deviated bogus cult phenomena of "mob hysteria," a psychological problem, as we find similar in this Amber Lynn story, even though her story is smaller scale, the psychology is the same. 

Yup! It is the same type process, people are enabling deviation to keep their own situation secure, they feel guilty and cannot admit they enabled these crimes, and so on, so they have to stay in denial to preserve their own egos. There are probably many other excuses. Anyway her story looks familiar to ISKCON'S. There is a problem, and the adults and seniors look the other way, or worse, cover for the bad guys. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

AMBER LYNN:

When we talk about childhood trauma, we talk a lot about the abuser. But we need to talk about the enablers, the ones who shove the truth down and pretend the house isn't on fire. Why do they do it?

I was 17 when I realized my mom would never choose me. For years, I always told myself she didn’t know about the sexual abuse her husband, my adoptive father, put me through, but deep down, I knew she did. It was something she shoved down and ignored for years, and when I talked to her about it at 16, she chose to keep protecting him.

It is crazy, and it is sick. It makes you feel completely upside down trying to understand how a parent could look at a monster destroying their child and decide to stay silent. But when you look at the cold psychology of an enabler, it usually boils down to two heavy, dark truths.

Preservation of Comfort: Facing the truth means destroying their own reality, their marriage, their financial stability, or their image. They look at the cost of blowing up their life versus the cost of letting a child suffer, and to them, a child's safety costs too much.

Willful Blindness: If they acknowledge the abuse, they have to acknowledge their own failure to prevent it. To admit the horror is happening means admitting they sat by and let it happen. Their ego cannot handle that level of guilt, so they rewrite reality to protect themselves.

My mom chose to protect the person hurting me because it was easier than facing her own life falling apart. It is just crazy how people choose to protect people that hurt children. But understanding why they do it, understanding that they chose their own comfort over your safety helps you realize the truth … their choice was a reflection of their own brokenness, never your worth. You deserved to be protected. And if you had to become your own protector, I am standing right here with you. 

AMBER LYNN

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BB GOVINDA IS A FRAUD GURU

This is an anonymous share ...

To whom it may concern

A few years back I was invited to attend a festival at the temple in Almaty Kazakhstan. Knowing that my friends Madhava Das and Govinda das, who is now the head of the 24 hr kirtan department in Vrindavan, would be attending, I decided to go.

One day I was invited to BB Govinda Swami's (BBGS) private home which boasts an attached sauna and Spa facility. His residence was located in a secluded area of the ISKCON farm community on the outskirts of Almaty.

While at his house, I walked in on Maharaj receiving a full body oil massage by his young Russian female secretary. At that time, she must have been in her mid-to-late twenties. During the massage session she was only wearing a choli top and lower garment loosen around her waist area.

Feeling very shocked by what I had witnessed I turned to Anirdesh Vapu (aka Bhaktividya purna swami) who happened to be there at that time. He told me that BBGS was transcendental and not affected by lust, hence there was no issue to speak of. I also asked for advice from Govinda and others. I was encouraged to leave, feeling disgusted and disappointed I flew to New Delhi. Upon reaching Vrindavan I confided in Aindra prabhuji and his assistant Gopal das.

After some time, I stopped thinking about what I had witnessed in Kazakhstan. Over the years while residing and working for my father's business partner in India, I would occasionally meet with BBG Swami. On one such occasion was in a five-star hotel in Delhi called the Oberoi (Records can be requested).

There I again witnessed BBG Swami receiving a full body oil massage in the spa Health Center by some non-devotee oriental Thai ladies. Around this same time, a friend of mine saw BBG Swami taking his secretary out on late night dates while she was dressed up in a mini skirt.

On another occasion during Kartik I visited Maharaj in his house and saw him entertaining Kiranas, a known pedophile in the community. While I was at BBGS's house he received a visit by Shri Radhe devi dasi (South African) alongside her female students from the Mayapur Gurukula, at that time these girls were under the age of 15.

I personally witness Maharaj embracing each one as they lined up for a sharing of "the Love". Many years later when the local ISKCON management at the Krishna Balaram temple had Kiranas arrested, Indradyumna Swami and BBGS paid for his bail to release him from police custody.

These are the three main incidents that I have personally witnessed. BBGS spent 30,000$ refurbishing his bathroom in Vrindavana, he told me that he did not like the way it looked while giving a tour to myself and my mother. This was the money that he had collected on behalf of his yatra in Kazakhstan. Having failed to register the community correctly, the local government evicted the devotees in the community and bulldozed many of their homes.

Maharaj then use that as an excuse to fund raise for his failing project meanwhile lavishly spending money on his own personal self. Expensive reading glasses costing at least $1,000 fashion branded (now in a monkey's mouth) accessories and cologne, five star hotel resorts business class flights his own fancy private apartment properties in London, Dubai and Mayapur. His house in Vrindavana was stolen from the UK yatra in Vrindavan.

In 2018, in the UK, his servant witnessed him embracing a young 15 year old girl at her private residency, without the knowledge of her parents. He instructed his servant not to take any photographs which made his assistant question the nature of his intention.

Due to retribution and intimidation by BB Govinda Swami many people are scared and have not come forward. He can be very aggressive. I also witnessed him making racist statements and jokes cursing out black people. I presented this information to Prahladananda Swami of the Sannyas committee many years ago, but nothing ever came of it.

I sincerely hope that this time these matters will be properly investigated and addressed so that BBG Swami can get the help he needs! Yours in the service of the lord Narashima 

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WEATHER HAVOC

PADA: Srila Prabhupada said the weather would become extreme in Kali yuga. And it is. Yeah, the MAGA people are promoting Kali yuga, since they want to burn more and more oil and coal, hee hee. We had acid rain from coal when I was a kid. We knew this was killing fish and trees, and was rotting bricks and marble on buildings way back then. And people were saying, if acid rots away stone buildings and marble, what happens to us? 

Hee hee. Yeah this was well known, also the London smog of 1952 killed a bunch of people, so that means smog type polluting was well known -- all along. I pick on MAGA because they keep saying that all this weather change is a hoax, so they can burn more oil and coal ... which they just did, made more coal burning. 

Smog makes excess heat, we all knew that when I was in LA in the 1960s. Delhi has a "heat dome" and they try to restrict traffic at that time, ok the traffic's smog is accelerating the heat. These things are well known. ys pd

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COMMUNISM GIVES US EVERYTHING

PADA: Right prabhu. Communism does give us everything: Walmart, Home Depot, Office Depot, Kohls, Ross, Dollar Tree, it is almost all made in China stuff. This ideology is making everything we buy here. And that is why we always have a giant trade deficit with China, since Reagan, and a huge deficit to pay for everything coming from China. 

BB: No....you mean to sing the virtues of capitalism and free trade on the open market, good prabhu. Communism is of the Devil, don't you know?

PADA: Supporting and funding communism is freedom? Yes, now you are free to work in USA's No. 1 job, working at Walmart and Amazon selling communist made items. That is what they said would happen when Reagan de-regulated China trade, all our jobs would go there. And then millions of our jobs did go there. 

Freedom to work at a communist made items box store is not actually freedom, but hey who cares, we added $39 trillion to the deficit by sending our jobs there, and China just added $1.3 trillion trade surplus. Yes, funding the Devil is called freedom, and we are free to fund them if we want to, and we wanted to. And we are also free to go bankrupt by sending our economy offshore.

ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com

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RUSSIA GAS CRISIS

Russians are running out of gas not only in Crimea but many other sectors. There are people waiting in line for 14 hours to get 5 gallons, if they can get anything. There are photos of people rigging up horses to pull their cars, because there is no gas. 

So it looks like Ukraine's strategy is working, they took out many of the air defenses systems, radar systems etc. and so now it is easy for them to fly in with cheap drones and take things out. They are also taking out fuel trucks and supply systems. 

This is oddly coinciding with the MAGA program to chop off Persian gulf's oil supplies. Dick Cheney said -- the only way to take out Iran was to have at least 500,000 boots on the ground, a few trillion defense expense dollars, and a few years of time. So we knew all along that just bombing a few buildings randomly here and there was never going to conquer those guys, and this would end up as a -- sealing the straits problem. We knew this would happen the whole time. 

So Russia is running low on oil, the West is running low on oil, maybe the planet is getting too destroyed by all the petrochemical burning (and thus heat waves) and the planet is taking down the oil production in different ways to curb the use. 

Cannot say for sure. But this is good news, these Russians won't be driving to their military drone, missile and aircraft manufacturing plants, they will have to park on the side of the road and wait for the horse and buggy taxis. 

That will slow down their killing of civilians in Ukraine. I am for all of that. Russia wanted to take over more than Crimea, they got greedy, so they wanted all this giant kerfluffle -- and they have only themselves to blame for making their own crisis. One Russian guy said, the only gas in Russia is being used to fill the drones that go to Ukraine, so the little gas we have -- is going to Ukraine and not us. Hee hee. 

Jayapataka Health / Dhirasanta Swami Departs 06 26 26

DON'T LIVE AND DON'T DIE

PADA: Yep, for some folks -- living is hellish and dying will be more hellish. Lord Narasimha has no patience with people who orchestrate mass harm to children, never mind Jayapataka's "industrial scale" child abuser program aka Mayapur's Auschwitz for kids project. 

All the kids under his program who were starved, beaten, molested -- and a number who committed suicide from the trauma -- have all been duly noted and recorded by the higher authority. A person who harms a Vaishnava has to suffer many thousands of years in hell for every hair on the body of that Vaishnava, and we are talking thousands of victims. 

Every kid who died untimely as a result from his program, including the ones who died of drugs -- hidden away in a dark alley -- have not been hidden from the eyes of God's courtroom assistants. They see the whole situation very plainly. 

And the reason the JPS goonda program wanted to kill us whistle blowers is, even some of us lowly peanut entities here can see what his program is up to -- at least to some extent -- ourselves. We peanut gallery folks are of course seeing only the tip of the iceberg, Yama's court sees every last suffering victim down to the smallest ant sized ones.  

And the mass of rank and file devotees who were banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed -- in order to forward Jayapataka's pedophile messiah's club -- have also been noted. I think this is the reason he clings so adamantly to this current life, he knows his next life is going to be going down into Beelzebub's fiery pits of hades. False gurus -- fall into the most obnoxious regions of the universe -- never mind the founder fathers of JPS's homosexual and pedophile / illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara system. 

But no, I do not wish him unwell, his own karma precedes him wherever he goes. So many devotees have had to be banned, so many children had to be molested, OK so many victims of his process had to be beaten, killed, committed suicide, got cancer and in sum -- so many Vaishnavas were made to suffer, and even die, to make JPS homosexual and pedophile messiah's club program fly, and these results are all known to the higher authority, and they will deal with him and his process on their own terms. 

But am I gloating over all this, as some have claimed? Nope, I am maybe at best like Maharaja Yuddhisthira after Kurushetra, "Oh Lord have mercy, what has happened here? Look at all these bodies"! Not doing the happy dance myself. But then again, I do know some people who will be doing the happy dance on his grave, he is not loved by a number of his program's victims.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com     

JAYAPATAKA HEALTH UPDATE

Health Update of HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja
25th June 2026 – Dallas, USA

Hare Kṛṣṇa Dear devotees, disciples, and well-wishers of
H.H Jayapataka Swami Mahārāja,

Please accept our humble obeisances.

All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Since yesterday, Guru Mahārāja's vital signs were stable, but his breathing was weak and occasionally gasping. During this time, doctors also noticed more weakness than usual in his right arm. His neurologist performed examinations, in addition to a CT scan and MRI, to investigate the cause.

Throughout these tests, Guru Mahārāja remained resting, but somewhat fragile.
After the scans, while he was being placed back on the BiPAP machine, there was a short period when he was not receiving breathing support. During that time, he stopped breathing completely, leading to respiratory arrest. His heart rate also dropped very low and momentarily stopped.

The medical team immediately began assisting his breathing with a manual breathing bag and started CPR. After a few minutes, his heartbeat and circulation returned, but he was still not breathing well enough on his own. Therefore, the doctors decided to insert a breathing tube (intubation) and connect him to a ventilator to ensure adequate breathing support.

Following stabilization, he did not experience any further cardiac arrest. Medications were initiated as indicated, and he was transferred back to the ICU.
The current plan is to evaluate the cause of the respiratory arrest and improve his overall condition in the ICU.

We humbly request devotees to intensify their prayers and sādhana so that Guru Mahārāja can come out of this situation quickly. Prayers have been doing wonders, and let us keep them going. We will continue sending updates regularly.
On behalf of the JPS Seva Committee and the
JPS Health Team,
Mahā Varāhā Dāsa

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OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

HH Dhirasanta Dasa Goswami has left this world

Dear devotees, followers, and friends,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

With the deepest reverence, spiritual gravity, and sorrow, we inform you that today our beloved Spiritual Master, a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, His Holiness Dhirasanta Dasa Goswami has left his physical body and entered the eternal pastimes of Lord Krishna in the spiritual world.

Maharaja departed surrounded by the chanting of the holy names, spiritual peace, and the love of his disciples. His Holiness's spiritual legacy:

Dedication to the mission:

HH Dhirasanta Dasa Goswami received initiation from Srila Prabhupada back in 1972 and tirelessly served as a spiritual Guru for over five decades. He was one of the first foreign devotees who helped establish ISKCON centers in India (Mayapur, Delhi, Bombay), and later spent decades actively preaching and developing communities across Europe, especially in Scandinavia and the Baltic states.

His profound spiritual teachings, educational projects for both children and adults, and his exceptional fatherly care have left an indelible mark on the hearts of thousands of people. Further details regarding the Samadhi (burial) rituals, viewing times, and official memorial programs will be announced shortly.

Disciples and followers of HH Dhirasanta Dasa Goswami

Hare Krishna!

PADA: OK yet another Jesus wanna-be who thinks he can absorb sins as a messiah from Vaikuntha. No, we cannot, and if we take sins we have to suffer, and take those sins with us into the next life. Explains why false gurus go to the bottom of the universe, they have a stone necklace of accumulated sins from their followers hanging on their subtle body. 

So they messed up the West -- and then fled to hide out in Russia, Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic states, and a lot of his videos have Baltic lettering and not English, because he could not sell his pedophile messiah's program over here in the West. 

He thinks he is another messiah, because he promoted the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children "residents of Vaikuntha" process. Nope! Sulochana said, even dogs do not worship or promote homosexual pedophiles as God's successors, because they have more sense than all this lot put together. 

That said, I still wish him well, because -- what is the use of cursing the departed? Now he is going to have a samadhi, you mean he will be buried along with homosexual pedophile Kirtanananda and porno addicted Gunagrahi and other deviants? That just means he will be contaminating the holy dham even after he is gone. 

Well fine, another nail in the coffin of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru's parampara. Every time one of the original founding guys leaves, they are replaced by much more weak, deluded and bewildered India disciples who do not have the same horsepower these original guys did. It is dwindling here. But it is growing on Yama loka.   

ys pd

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Ukraine's styrofoam drones. Zero radar image. Can take a lot of bullets and still keep going. Hmm, rather amazing, I had a styrofoam plane when I was a kid!


Evidently, causing lots of lost Russian soldiers. This seems to be the problem for the Russians. This tech is basically toys with explosives,
which their S400 systems are not designed for. Never mind they never appear on radars. I am amazed at the ingenuity here. Russians never saw this coming?