AN ISKCON CHILD WRITES
PADA: A child of one of the big leaders recently said their dad was one of the people gleefully making documents to oppose the child abuse lawsuit. This child was only 12 at the time and did not understand the issues then.
But they recently wrote to congratulate PADA for -- opposing the combined rank and file, the leaders, and whole lot of them -- and defending the children. I think this is a big victory for PADA, and for children. We are very glad this person is on board! Welcome!
This really is a sign the GBC empire is in a state of decay and collapse, all the things they have been doing all this time are just -- not very popular and in fact --are a peril to children. This person is a sort of popular personality in their group of peers and hopefully will start to get others on track with these issues. I believe it can only go in our direction over time.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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His lips are sweet, His face is sweet. His eyes are sweet, His smile is sweet.
His heart is sweet, His gait is sweet. Everything about the Lord of Sweetness is completely sweet.
*Why Radha-Damodara, not Yashoda-Damodara*?
The eighth verse of Satyavrata Muni’s famous Damodarashtakam might serve as a bridge from the Yashoda-Damodara-lila to Radha-Damodara,
Then Krishna, being pleased at mind, said to Radha, “The golden girdle belt which You have offered to Me around My stomach will cause Me to be known as Damodara. “Dear Radha! I will manifest this pastime in the material world when I will be bound by My mother to a mortar using various ropes. Its not undermining the Love of Yashoda for Krsna .Mother Yashoda is the epitome of vatsalya-rasa, or parental love for Krishna. The word yashoda means “giver of fame.” By binding Krishna with her ropes of love, Yashoda gave Krishna the fame of being controlled by His devotees.
But the essence is To love and be loved is the inherent and innate nature of every person not to speak of the Supreme Person.Krsna loves every living entity and He desires that every living entity also love Him.Love includes being controlled and dominated by one’s beloved and thus presenting oneself as a subordinate to such love.
𝙎𝙧𝙞𝙡𝙖 𝘽𝙝𝙖𝙠𝙩𝙞𝙨𝙞𝙙𝙙𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙩𝙖 𝙎𝙖𝙧𝙖𝙨𝙬𝙖𝙩𝙞 𝙏𝙝𝙖𝙠𝙪𝙧 𝙋𝙧𝙖𝙗𝙝𝙪𝙥𝙖𝙙𝙖
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“We don’t have to make disciples, we have to become disciples. In other words, we have to remain constantly engaged in the service of Krishna and the spiritual master. The devotees of Vishnu, the Vaishnavas, see the guru in all things. If one becomes proud of being a Vaishnava, then one’s service to Vishnu and the Vaishnavas evaporates. One who is free from the sense that he is the doer, who thinks, ‘I actually do nothing myself, it is Krishna alone who engages me in all activities,’ and who is constantly engaged in the service of the Lord can actually do something beneficial for the ordinary souls by turning them towards Krishna. But it is not enough to make phoney speeches about how you are not the doer. You have to genuinely feel that you are being made to act by the Lord.
(From Prabhupader Upadesamrita. Bhaktissidhanta Saraswati Thakur)
PADA: Thanks Yogi. Yes, the entire GBC argument for making the 11 gurus is "Srila Prabhupada did not make it clear, so we had to go to BR Sridhar Maharaja for advice." And Sridhar said that the 11 are "zonal acharyas" and there can be "an acharya board" (not a GBC) and etc. So the entire GBC argument rests on the idea that Srila Prabhupada was not capable of making a clear order for how his society should be managed.
In an assembly where a truly censurable act is not rebuked and allowed to occur, half the merit of that act goes to the head of that assembly, one fourth unto the perpetrator and one fourth unto each who witnessed the act. By their silence, they are considered to be of similar minds.
On the other hand, when the censurable act is rebuked, the head of the assembly and others in attendance are freed from all sins. Only the perpetrator of the act reaps the total merit of the act. Those who, upon being asked, decline to assist a wronged person will similarly be wronged.
Those who, when asked, lie to conceal a crime destroy the meritorious acts of their seven upper and seven lower generations. The grief caused by *loss of wealth, loss of a son, incurring debt, separation from one's companions, loss of spouse, losses due to government decisions, sterility, being attacked by a carnivorous animal such as a tiger, becoming a kept woman and loss of property as a consequence of false witnesses* have been said by the gods to be different sorts of merits of those who speak false or remain silent when they ought to speak.
*Therefore, he who knows, should speak the truth without concealment. The attached person's picture is the one that they all told me was the "BEST". Good Lord!
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PADA: @Rob-g1q3d This is very confusing? Are we saying worshiping illicit behavior with men, women and children, and predators of minors with venereal disease as acharyas is "ISKCON"? Where does Srila Prabhupada or Krishna say this is ISKCON? And now, we should not publicly criticize worshiping illicit behavior with men, women and children, and predators of minors with venereal disease -- as acharyas -- we should allow children to worship such morally corrupt persons as -- God's successors?
Why do we want children to worship such odious things as "God's successors"? Yep. Why do we want to merge together illicit behavior with God and His successors? And we have to go public because if we go to a temple, they will call law enforcement to have us removed, or sue us etc.
Public expose is the only option. Not only that, a friend of mine who said he was going to go and meet them in private to discuss all this, was found tied up and un-alived a few days before the meeting. And even law enforcement said "this is an inside job." I thought this devotee has to go public for his own safety, and he would not, and then he ended up departed.
Sorry, going public is the best, and no question about it, safest approach. Not going public is a hazard to our well being. The only reason I am alive now is, my public stance is too well known and thus taking me out would be a huge liability, and that is what kept me from going down.
The FEDS wanted to move me to witness protection in Kansas, even they knew how hazardous this can be, hee hee. But Rob lost me when he could not answer my original point, why we should train people to offer bhogha to a predators of minors with venereal disease -- and he never answers. He thinks this is the ISKCON Krishna approves of? ys pd
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A GODDESS SISTER SPEAKS OUT
MISCELLANEOUS THOUGHTS ON ISKCON 2026.
HARE KRISHNA!!
Subhalaksmi devi dasi.
His heart is sweet, His gait is sweet. Everything about the Lord of Sweetness is completely sweet.
Word-by-Word MeaningAdharam = lips
Vadanam = face
Nayanam = eyes
Hasitam = smile/laughter
Hridayam = heart
Gamanam = walking, movement, gait
Madhuradhipateḥ = of the Lord of sweetness (Krishna)
Akhilam = everything, all
Madhuram = sweet
Devotional Meaning The devotee sees Krishna's beauty everywhere. Not only His physical features, but His thoughts, feelings, actions, and movements are all spiritually sweet. The final line declares that everything about Krishna is sweet, leaving nothing outside His divine charm.
"Madhuradhipater Akhilam Madhuram" "Everything about the Supreme Lord of Sweetness is sweet."
*Kartik Meditation Day 11-Sri Radha’s Ropes of Love - Namo rādhikāyai tvadīya-priyāyai*
Vadanam = face
Nayanam = eyes
Hasitam = smile/laughter
Hridayam = heart
Gamanam = walking, movement, gait
Madhuradhipateḥ = of the Lord of sweetness (Krishna)
Akhilam = everything, all
Madhuram = sweet
Devotional Meaning The devotee sees Krishna's beauty everywhere. Not only His physical features, but His thoughts, feelings, actions, and movements are all spiritually sweet. The final line declares that everything about Krishna is sweet, leaving nothing outside His divine charm.
"Madhuradhipater Akhilam Madhuram" "Everything about the Supreme Lord of Sweetness is sweet."
*Kartik Meditation Day 11-Sri Radha’s Ropes of Love - Namo rādhikāyai tvadīya-priyāyai*
*Why Radha-Damodara, not Yashoda-Damodara*?
The eighth verse of Satyavrata Muni’s famous Damodarashtakam might serve as a bridge from the Yashoda-Damodara-lila to Radha-Damodara,
namas te ‘stu dāmne sphurad-dīpti-dhāmne
tvadīyodarāyātha viśvasya dhāmne
namo rādhikāyai tvadīya-priyāyai
namo ‘nanta-līlāya devāya tubhyam
tvadīyodarāyātha viśvasya dhāmne
namo rādhikāyai tvadīya-priyāyai
namo ‘nanta-līlāya devāya tubhyam
O Lord Damodara, I first of all offer my obeisances to the brilliantly effulgent rope which binds Your belly. I then offer my obeisances to Your belly, which is the abode of the entire universe. I humbly bow down to Your most beloved Srimati Radharani, and I offer all obeisances to You, the Supreme Lord, who displays unlimited pastimes.
It is stated Uttara-kanda of the Bhavishya Purana: “Once, in the auspicious month of Karttika,Krishna came late made with Radharani to wait so In loving anger, Sri Radha tied a rope around Sri Krishna’s belly to punish Him for not showing up as promised. In fact, according to Jiva Goswami, -Sri Radha-krishnarcana-dipika, texts 121–126 the binding pastimes by Sri Radha is the prototype for the Binding pastimes by Yaaoda:
Then Krishna, being pleased at mind, said to Radha, “The golden girdle belt which You have offered to Me around My stomach will cause Me to be known as Damodara. “Dear Radha! I will manifest this pastime in the material world when I will be bound by My mother to a mortar using various ropes. Its not undermining the Love of Yashoda for Krsna .Mother Yashoda is the epitome of vatsalya-rasa, or parental love for Krishna. The word yashoda means “giver of fame.” By binding Krishna with her ropes of love, Yashoda gave Krishna the fame of being controlled by His devotees.
But the essence is To love and be loved is the inherent and innate nature of every person not to speak of the Supreme Person.Krsna loves every living entity and He desires that every living entity also love Him.Love includes being controlled and dominated by one’s beloved and thus presenting oneself as a subordinate to such love.
cc adi 4.21-22 Thus Krishna finds great pleasure in being controlled by His unalloyed devotees and is purchased by their love. This quality of Krishna’s is celebrated as bhakta-vashyata.( SB 10.9.19 /10.11.9)
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𝙎𝙧𝙞𝙡𝙖 𝘽𝙝𝙖𝙠𝙩𝙞𝙨𝙞𝙙𝙙𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙩𝙖 𝙎𝙖𝙧𝙖𝙨𝙬𝙖𝙩𝙞 𝙏𝙝𝙖𝙠𝙪𝙧 𝙋𝙧𝙖𝙗𝙝𝙪𝙥𝙖𝙙𝙖
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“We don’t have to make disciples, we have to become disciples. In other words, we have to remain constantly engaged in the service of Krishna and the spiritual master. The devotees of Vishnu, the Vaishnavas, see the guru in all things. If one becomes proud of being a Vaishnava, then one’s service to Vishnu and the Vaishnavas evaporates. One who is free from the sense that he is the doer, who thinks, ‘I actually do nothing myself, it is Krishna alone who engages me in all activities,’ and who is constantly engaged in the service of the Lord can actually do something beneficial for the ordinary souls by turning them towards Krishna. But it is not enough to make phoney speeches about how you are not the doer. You have to genuinely feel that you are being made to act by the Lord.
(From Prabhupader Upadesamrita. Bhaktissidhanta Saraswati Thakur)
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MUKUNDA DAS VS HIMSELF
"The fight between the Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the demon is compared to a fight between bulls for the sake of a cow. The earth planet is also called go, or cow. As bulls fight between themselves to ascertain who will have union with a cow, there is always a constant fight between the demons and the Supreme Lord or His representative for supremacy over the earth."
— Srila Prabhupada, Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.18.20
We should understand very clearly that this great fight for Mother Earth is taking place right now, and Srila Prabhupada's original books are at the very heart of this struggle.
PADA: OK so when we started the BBTI lawsuit for original books, Mukunda started a giant campaign to say -- PADA is bogus for using the "evil karmi courts" to get the original books. He was saying PADA is a mad fool who is compromised with the karmis and their courts. Mukunda also said PADA is driving a taxi to get money for helping the BBTI lawsuit, which is "making money by moving around prostitutes." He does not want any funding for original books.
the-preservation-or-destruction-of-prabhupadas-original-books-is-at-the-heart-of-the-fight-for-mother-earth!
"The fight between the Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the demon is compared to a fight between bulls for the sake of a cow. The earth planet is also called go, or cow. As bulls fight between themselves to ascertain who will have union with a cow, there is always a constant fight between the demons and the Supreme Lord or His representative for supremacy over the earth."
— Srila Prabhupada, Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.18.20
We should understand very clearly that this great fight for Mother Earth is taking place right now, and Srila Prabhupada's original books are at the very heart of this struggle.
PADA: OK so when we started the BBTI lawsuit for original books, Mukunda started a giant campaign to say -- PADA is bogus for using the "evil karmi courts" to get the original books. He was saying PADA is a mad fool who is compromised with the karmis and their courts. Mukunda also said PADA is driving a taxi to get money for helping the BBTI lawsuit, which is "making money by moving around prostitutes." He does not want any funding for original books.
OK, but we got at least some rights to make some original books from the courts, and we have had a lot of people subsequently take interest in the topic thanks to our BBTI lawsuit. Our friends are still in court now in Delhi working on the issue. Mukunda has meanwhile not done anything legal ever, to legally make originals, or anything else legal.
When is Mukunda going to do something actually substantial to make original books legal, instead of harassing the people who are? Nope. He has no idea that the issue has had to go to court, there is no other good option.
He and his pals like HKC Jaipur also said the Bangalore folks are bogus for making legal issues, but if they do not go to court, Jayapataka will be in charge of Bangalore. Why do these guys always want the homo and pedo guru system to win legally? We should avoid the courts, and hand over the books and temples to the pedo guru system?
Sorry, we had to go to court and that is all there is to it. Doing nothing but blabbering all day has produced no legal resolution to anything. And attacking the people who are doing legal things is helping -- the book changers and pedo guru system.
But this is Mukunda's problem the whole time, he is for Sulochana, and promoting the Radhanath program that got rid of Sulochana. He is fighting himself. Of course the demon courts also had to save children from Mukunda's homo and pedo guru program as well. No wonder he does not like the courts! It is the fight of the century, and Mukunda is trying to help the people making the fraud books and not us.
That is how the book changers have been empowered, these Mukunda guys attack the people who want originals. Yep, we don't want to use the demon courts to go after the GBC guys, that would be -- helping Srila Prabhupada and not helping the GBC. Why should we help Srila Prabhupada when we can save the GBC instead? Which is why people ask me, what is wrong with these GBC enablers? A friend of PADA said, the answer is simple, they still have sympathy for Judas. ys pd
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JUST AN OLD MAN?
Nobody here is suggesting that Srila Prabhupada was “just an old man” or that he “blabbered” for years. Quite the opposite: precisely because we accept Srila Prabhupada as the acharya, we are asking that his actual instructions be followed without adding to them. Yes, Srila Prabhupada wanted his disciples to become gurus. But “become guru” does not automatically mean “become diksha-guru and initiate your own disciples.”
Srila Prabhupada frequently quoted Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s “amara ajnaya guru hana” while instructing devotees to preach Krishna’s message. The specific question here is who was authorized to act as initiating spiritual master and accept disciples after Srila Prabhupada. Nor are we claiming that one July 9 letter suddenly overturned decades of teachings.
The July 9 directive must be understood together with Srila Prabhupada’s books, conversations and other instructions—including the May 28 conversation. Interestingly, in that very conversation Srila Prabhupada says: “When I order, ‘You become guru,’ he becomes regular guru.” Therefore asking for that order is hardly rejecting Srila Prabhupada’s previous teachings; it is taking his words seriously. Regarding your argument that a representative can act only for a “living principal,” that is precisely something that requires evidence from Srila Prabhupada, not an analogy with ordinary institutions.
Srila Prabhupada taught: “There are two conceptions, the physical conception and the vibrational conception. The physical conception is temporary. The vibrational conception is eternal.” And elsewhere: “So far I am concerned, I do not factually feel any separation from my Spiritual Master because I am trying to serve Him according to His desire.”
Therefore, physical disappearance does not terminate the acharya’s authority, instructions or the disciple’s service to him. So let us absolutely read all of Srila Prabhupada’s books and instructions rather than getting stuck in polemics. But then let us apply the same principle consistently: show Srila Prabhupada’s instruction appointing his disciples as successor diksha-gurus, rather than assuming that physical disappearance itself supplied an authorization he did not need to state. If Srila Prabhupada firmly and explicitly established such a succession system throughout his teachings, producing that instruction should be straightforward. Hare Krishna.
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PADA: Thanks Yogi. Yes, the entire GBC argument for making the 11 gurus is "Srila Prabhupada did not make it clear, so we had to go to BR Sridhar Maharaja for advice." And Sridhar said that the 11 are "zonal acharyas" and there can be "an acharya board" (not a GBC) and etc. So the entire GBC argument rests on the idea that Srila Prabhupada was not capable of making a clear order for how his society should be managed.
Did I forget to mention the alleged appointment tape was only public when Sulochana bribed an archives devotee to get a copy, and he was eliminated two months after he published it, because they wanted this suppressed. The July 9th letter, all of the 1970s letters, all of the 1977 conversations, the will, the DOM, and many other documents were hidden and suppressed. And we literally risked life and limb to publish them.
Nevermind I was the first person to get the November tapes and publish those, and people said I would be in the morgue if I published them, but I did anyway. But yeah, Sridhara said "vote in more acharyas" which is why Jayapataka offered to make me the guru of Ireland, and he said the GBC had already conference phone call made me the acharya of Ireland. Sridhar started this whole 2/3 show of hands acharya voting, not Srila Prabhupada. Of course I told them I cannot be the guru, because none of us is authorized to take karma, for starters. I had to get someone to break into Hansadutta's safe to get the will, it was not available.
So the GBC has been promoting this idea that Srila Prabhupada was unable to make clear orders, and we had to thus seek shelter of the founder father of the illicit behavior acharyas program of 1937, BR Sridhar. Incidently, when I was complaining about the child mistreatment, falling down gurus etc. the GBC plastered quotes from BR Sridhara in my face "none should protest." "The GBC gurus should be seen as absolute" etc.
So in other words, my protesting child mistreatment was suppressed, never mind everything else. PremesharNitaiDas never tells us which GBC gurus objected to keeping Jayatirtha, which objected to comparing Jayatirtha to Mother Sita etc., he just says all this is all ancient history. Yeah but this is the foundation of the entire operation going on now?
And he also cannot name anyone who is currently objecting to re-certifying Keshava Bharati, who is known to be a predator. He never names anyone who objected, evidently because there is none. He just says going to Sridhar is ancient news, nope, all the GBC reports and statements made then are still part of the GBC catalogue of documents NOW, standing as authorized documents NOW. Sridhar is the ghost writer of the GBC reports 1978, 1979, 1980 and partly later. None of this has ever been corrected.
But yeah, Satsvarupa and other GBC kept saying, there is no clear order, we need to go to the Gaudiya Matha. And then me and Sulochana became targets for elimination when we began to publish the "unclear statements." Why do we need to be placed into the morgue for publishing the statements of the acharya? Prem prabhu never explains any of this. He just said we have anger issues, which means personal insult and not an answer. He would have failed my High School debates class, personal insult disqualifies a person and they would be booted off the platform. He does not even follow karmi etiquette for mature discussion. He cannot name anyone and he is upset I can name names. ys pd
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NEW DWARKA LOS ANGELES ISKCON
i lived inside the Los Angeles New Dwaraka temple from 1999 to 2002. And i was looking around and seeing many things that were off to what the Morning SMB classes were purporting. It was confusing, but i decided to last there i had to look away from certain things and i got used to doing that. i was thinking this is better than what is offered out there in the material world, so understanding that we are in Kaliyuga, i settled for what i could get.
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NEW DWARKA LOS ANGELES ISKCON
i lived inside the Los Angeles New Dwaraka temple from 1999 to 2002. And i was looking around and seeing many things that were off to what the Morning SMB classes were purporting. It was confusing, but i decided to last there i had to look away from certain things and i got used to doing that. i was thinking this is better than what is offered out there in the material world, so understanding that we are in Kaliyuga, i settled for what i could get.
i remember senior devotees living in the temple were approaching me in inappropriate ways. Even one was approaching me with his wife, looking for a threesome. This devotee was a Prabhupada disciple, who gave SMB classes. Many devotees would sit on the Vyasana and giving SMB classes with very little realization it seemed, although they had been in the movement for around 30 years. anyway,i just tolerated. In 2002 i took initiation from one this guru was above all of them in their deviation's.
Little did i know that he was even below them, (those who seemed off track to me). He was a good actor, pretending that he was a pure soul. Nope, he was a Pedophile and attended SRA Rituals, even right there across the alley from the temple -- the gurus were on Santa Monica Blvd.
i am forever indebted to some devotees that stepped out of their comfort zones to tell me what was actually going on!!! At first i did not want to believe them, it was so bazaar and not imaginable so i did some digging and soul searching and found so many things i had been closing my eyes to were BIG RED FLAGS! I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THOSE DEVOTEES. my humble respects to you who knew and helped me!!!
*WISDOM ABOUT LOOKING THE OTHER way were recommending...i should have known better, but alas i did not. i was sure tha the Masonic LodER WAY WHEN YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG*
*These words were spoken by the great sage Kasyapa Muni to King Vidura* (from Sabha Parva, Section 67, Mahabharata)
He that knows the truth, but remains silent due to gain, anger or fear, casts upon himself a thousand sufferings. He who is witness by seeing or hearing, but does not speak up, casts upon himself a thousand sufferings.
In an assembly where a truly censurable act is not rebuked and allowed to occur, half the merit of that act goes to the head of that assembly, one fourth unto the perpetrator and one fourth unto each who witnessed the act. By their silence, they are considered to be of similar minds.
On the other hand, when the censurable act is rebuked, the head of the assembly and others in attendance are freed from all sins. Only the perpetrator of the act reaps the total merit of the act. Those who, upon being asked, decline to assist a wronged person will similarly be wronged.
Those who, when asked, lie to conceal a crime destroy the meritorious acts of their seven upper and seven lower generations. The grief caused by *loss of wealth, loss of a son, incurring debt, separation from one's companions, loss of spouse, losses due to government decisions, sterility, being attacked by a carnivorous animal such as a tiger, becoming a kept woman and loss of property as a consequence of false witnesses* have been said by the gods to be different sorts of merits of those who speak false or remain silent when they ought to speak.
*Therefore, he who knows, should speak the truth without concealment. The attached person's picture is the one that they all told me was the "BEST". Good Lord!
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WHAT IS ISKCON?
PADA: @Rob-g1q3d This is very confusing? Are we saying worshiping illicit behavior with men, women and children, and predators of minors with venereal disease as acharyas is "ISKCON"? Where does Srila Prabhupada or Krishna say this is ISKCON? And now, we should not publicly criticize worshiping illicit behavior with men, women and children, and predators of minors with venereal disease -- as acharyas -- we should allow children to worship such morally corrupt persons as -- God's successors?
Why do we want children to worship such odious things as "God's successors"? Yep. Why do we want to merge together illicit behavior with God and His successors? And we have to go public because if we go to a temple, they will call law enforcement to have us removed, or sue us etc.
Public expose is the only option. Not only that, a friend of mine who said he was going to go and meet them in private to discuss all this, was found tied up and un-alived a few days before the meeting. And even law enforcement said "this is an inside job." I thought this devotee has to go public for his own safety, and he would not, and then he ended up departed.
Sorry, going public is the best, and no question about it, safest approach. Not going public is a hazard to our well being. The only reason I am alive now is, my public stance is too well known and thus taking me out would be a huge liability, and that is what kept me from going down.
The FEDS wanted to move me to witness protection in Kansas, even they knew how hazardous this can be, hee hee. But Rob lost me when he could not answer my original point, why we should train people to offer bhogha to a predators of minors with venereal disease -- and he never answers. He thinks this is the ISKCON Krishna approves of? ys pd
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A GODDESS SISTER SPEAKS OUT
Shrimati Asta Sakhi Uvacha:
This (the banning of Lochan Ananda Dasa---see post below) is absolutely terrible.
I was with his Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada when we launched the BG As It Is with Macmillan in London in 1972. I know that my beloved Gurudev had his copiers like Pradjumna Das and others work night and day to have it printed with Macmillan for the Launch in London where all the main publishing houses The Radio and the Major newspapers like the Telegraph were invited . They all came and it was successful. But a rush meant there were some mistakes made by the copiers and also by Macmillan mainly spelling mistakes and general English mistakes.
I was with his Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada when we launched the BG As It Is with Macmillan in London in 1972. I know that my beloved Gurudev had his copiers like Pradjumna Das and others work night and day to have it printed with Macmillan for the Launch in London where all the main publishing houses The Radio and the Major newspapers like the Telegraph were invited . They all came and it was successful. But a rush meant there were some mistakes made by the copiers and also by Macmillan mainly spelling mistakes and general English mistakes.
SRILA PRABHUPADA did want it corrected . He made a statement at the launch when asked how he gave the translation from the sanskrit verse and Srila Prabhupada said I HAVE NOT GIVEN A WORD FOR WORD TRANSLITERATION from sanskrit to English as there is not enough words to English from Sanskrit. I have given a translation in English from Sanksrit as close to the realisation of the verse.
QUOTE.He gave his heart. I have just found out from Macmillan there could be a recording of this conversation in their archives. This will prove that the Transileration word for word that Jaya Adwaita Swami has done which he admitted to me is how he redid it and consequently changed every verse and some purports and is so not correct. I don't believe he did it maliciously he did it as a scholar and im sure he is remorseful about it I felt it at the time i spoke with him..
The GBC should be remorseful and do not seem to be . They have sold millions and I believe do not know how to correct it. Instead they have just banned an incredible disciple like Locanananda Das my Godbrother and will probably end up banning all of Srila Prabhupadas disciples as nearly all of them will want to come together to put it right. I hope the GBc hear this with honest hearts and bring us all together to correct it.
SHARE EVERYWHERE! GO VIRAL!
LIFELONG SOLD-OUT DEVOTEE PIONEER GOT 20-YEAR BAN FROM PREACHING FOR OBJECTING TO THE CHANGE DISEASE GITA
If allowed to preach, he could have made a million devotees in that time.
From His Grace Shri Locan Ananda Dasa Prabhu
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If the GBC were to take another vote today on whether to make changes to the wording of the 1972 edition of the Bhagavad-gita As It Is, they would likely approve those revisions by an even greater majority than they did before producing the 1983 edited version.
QUOTE.He gave his heart. I have just found out from Macmillan there could be a recording of this conversation in their archives. This will prove that the Transileration word for word that Jaya Adwaita Swami has done which he admitted to me is how he redid it and consequently changed every verse and some purports and is so not correct. I don't believe he did it maliciously he did it as a scholar and im sure he is remorseful about it I felt it at the time i spoke with him..
The GBC should be remorseful and do not seem to be . They have sold millions and I believe do not know how to correct it. Instead they have just banned an incredible disciple like Locanananda Das my Godbrother and will probably end up banning all of Srila Prabhupadas disciples as nearly all of them will want to come together to put it right. I hope the GBc hear this with honest hearts and bring us all together to correct it.
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LIFELONG SOLD-OUT DEVOTEE PIONEER GOT 20-YEAR BAN FROM PREACHING FOR OBJECTING TO THE CHANGE DISEASE GITA
If allowed to preach, he could have made a million devotees in that time.
From His Grace Shri Locan Ananda Dasa Prabhu
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If the GBC were to take another vote today on whether to make changes to the wording of the 1972 edition of the Bhagavad-gita As It Is, they would likely approve those revisions by an even greater majority than they did before producing the 1983 edited version.
Srila Prabhupada was well aware of the weak-kneed decision makers he had to leave in charge of managing the society he had built from the ground up. He had struggled against the "change disease" and the tendency of certain disciples who sought recognition of their superior erudition and capabilities which challenged his authority. He was certainly praying to Krishna to enlighten his disciples and keep them on the straight and narrow path.
It is now nearly fifty years since Srila Prabhupada left this earthly atmosphere, and the leaders of ISKCON still have not developed a means by which other senior disciples of Srila Prabhupada may offer suggestions as to how the condition of the movement our spiritual master founded may be improved and restored to its former glory.
I personally became aware of the seriousness of changes that had been made to the Bhagavad-gita As It Is in 1985 and I voiced my disapproval. Each of us has experienced the "voice in the wilderness" phenomenon, and I held back from voicing any further comments for fear of reprisal which came anyway, along with a twenty year ban from giving classes or leading kirtana in my local temple.
A few months ago, I found a significant revision in "The Opulence of the Absolute", B.g. 10.38, which originally read, "Among punishments I am the rod of chastisement.."
A few months ago, I found a significant revision in "The Opulence of the Absolute", B.g. 10.38, which originally read, "Among punishments I am the rod of chastisement.."
Much to my shock and dismay, I saw that "the rod of chastisement" had been removed from both the verse and purport in the 1983 edition. Then, even more shocking, I found that the publishers had also decided to omit the pictures of the predecessor acaryas that Srila Prabhupada insisted be included, namely, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur, Srila Gaura Kisora Das Babaji Maharaja and Srila Thakur Bhaktivinode, "the pioneer of the program to benedict the entire world with Krishna consciousness."
Just as problematic was the deletion from the caption under the picture of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada as the "greatest exponent of Krishna Consciousness in the Western world." Gone! The offenses are egregious, and there is little, if any, concern among the leaders and decision-makers about the effect these offenses are having on the cohesiveness of our devotee family. So, we should appeal to the Supreme Personality of Godhead to impart this message as the Lord in the heart, from deeply concerned godbrothers and godsisters who bear no malice towards them, that they must change course and show proper respect to the predecessor acaryas and to Srila Prabhupada who disallowed such editing based on the rule of arsa-prayoga.
IMAGE: Locanananda Prabhu heats it up at a Rathayatra long ago and far away that seems like yesterday!
SHRIMATI SUBHALAKSMI ON BOOK CHANGES AND VAISHNAVA BEHAVIOR
From Subhalaksmi devi dasi ACBSP Australia.
IMAGE: Locanananda Prabhu heats it up at a Rathayatra long ago and far away that seems like yesterday!
SHRIMATI SUBHALAKSMI ON BOOK CHANGES AND VAISHNAVA BEHAVIOR
From Subhalaksmi devi dasi ACBSP Australia.
For anyone interested, here is what I posted. I have repeatedly and clearly stated that I do not support the book changes. I am however alarmed by hateful, extremist and fanatical comments calling for the torture and even death of Jayadvaita Swami. Some of the rhetoric is way over the top and I can't understand why any thoughtful devotee would think that Srila Prabhupada would be pleased by this behaviour.
I am not specifically referring to my senior godbrother Patita Pavana Das. Memes and posts about Jayadvaita Swami are now all over Facebook. Many, many "devotees " are piling on the hatred and ridicule, some in very self righteous and egotistical ways.
MISCELLANEOUS THOUGHTS ON ISKCON 2026.
The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. ~ F. Scott Fitzgerald.
My relationship with ISKCON is complex. I clearly state that I am post ISKCON. I do not care for how the organisation has evolved in many ways and in no way am I under the jurisdiction of the GBC.
My relationship with ISKCON is complex. I clearly state that I am post ISKCON. I do not care for how the organisation has evolved in many ways and in no way am I under the jurisdiction of the GBC.
Still, I am friends with quite a few souls who are still active in ISKCON- even my godbrother Atmarama das who is part of the leadership team in Australia.
I admit, this is quite strange. This photo was taken 4 years ago. Atmarama is a very serious, sober man and the photo captures a certain underlying jubilance.
Prabhupada Castle, where I visited yesterday, is not under the jurisdiction of the GBC. (Thank goodness).
Prabhupada Castle, where I visited yesterday, is not under the jurisdiction of the GBC. (Thank goodness).
I avoided going out on the days where 2 Swamis were prominent in the programs. My main purpose was to catch up with my godsisters Ambika and Rasarani devis who were visiting from up north.
I would like to say a few words about His Holiness Jayadvaita Swami. Many of my Krishna friends will know that he is under severe attack from many devotees for the thousands of edits he made to Srila Prabhupada's books posthumously.
However I believe the rhetoric has spiralled completely out of control. There are now memes and comments where certain devotees are speaking with great relish that Jayadvaita Swami will end up in hell, tortured by the Yamadutas ( agents of the God of Death.)
However I believe the rhetoric has spiralled completely out of control. There are now memes and comments where certain devotees are speaking with great relish that Jayadvaita Swami will end up in hell, tortured by the Yamadutas ( agents of the God of Death.)
Comments have included that he can look forward to being boiled alive in a vat of oil or being eaten alive by rats. I am not defending his "editing " activities. I am simply trying to point out that such fanatical, extremist and hateful comments do not become those who are striving to be loving human beings on the path to self realisation.
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Subhalaksmi devi dasi.
PADA: Yeah for some reason she was friends with me but then took offense at something I said, or didn't say, not sure what, and she un-friended me. I think a lot of people are upset with the changes, the false gurus, the molesting, but they have not figured out a good way to challenge it. They tend to think my approach is too heavy handed. I get it.
Or they have sentimental attachments to the leaders, which is often the case. Sorry I offended you dear, but hey, we have not been able to please everyone, fer sure! But yeah, we should not make public calls for people to be executed, that is not a good look for the public. I agree we cannot be over the top in our public postings as a reaction. I am over the top for most people, but hey, there are people even more over the top than me, who knew! ys pd







