Tuesday, May 12, 2026

Silence is Complicity / Shyamsundar Speerstra / Earning Credibility 05 12 26


Where did all My lost sheep go?


Association Vaishnavas de Espana

Silence in the face of abuse: what the Gita says about complicity.

Child abuse is one of the most painful issues within any spiritual community. When it happens systematically within an institution claiming to represent God, silence becomes complicity. The Bhagavad-gita, central text of ISKCON, contains clear condemnation against those who harm innocents.

Krishna describes divine qualities such as ahimsa (non violence), compassion, and equanimity. A child should grow up in such an environment, but the abuse in Gurukulas between 1970 and 1990 totally contradicts these principles. What divine qualities can a child subjected to violence, sexual abuse and neglect develop?

In contrast, Krishna defines demonic qualities such as arrogance, anger, harshness, and ignorance (BG 16.4). Those who abused or tolerated abuse acted under these qualities, not the divine. Saying to follow the scriptures while violating the protection of the innocent shows a real lack of faith in them.

Krishna states that demonic people do not distinguish between right and wrong (BG 16.9). Child abuse, clearly prohibited, was documented in reports like 1998 on ISKCON. Perpetrators and cover-up alike fall into this category.

The Gita regulates even sensory enjoyment (BG 2.59), so sexual abuse of minors is absolutely unjustifiable. Even more serious is the cover-up: those who protected the aggressors actively participated in sin. Krishna warns that such people face severe consequences (BG 16.19-20), falling into degraded states. Lust, anger and greed — “doors of hell” (BG 16.21) — are present in these acts.

The Gita does not allow for passivity. Krishna scolds Arjuna for avoiding his duty to protect (BG 2.34). Not acting in the face of abuse is a grave offense. Protecting an abuser for their position reflects a demonic mentality, not spiritual.

Institutional position does not grant karmic immunity. Documented cases show how the culture of silence allowed abuse for decades. Keeping in touch with abusers is not loyalty, it's complicity. The Bhagavad-gita, read unfiltered, strongly condemns child abuse. This is not an attack on philosophy, but a call for the institution to live by the principles of compassion, truth, and protection it proclaims.

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PADA: Shyamsundar prabhu is now 84 and is struggling to meet his rent and etc. He did a lot of service in the early days but gradually he deteriorated and started to argue with Srila Prabhupada over the temple finances. And he borrowed 5,000 pounds from Srila Prabhupada and evidently did not ever pay it back. 

Srila Prabhupada told him, you can avoid paying everyone else, but you have to pay me back. So Syamsundar started giving Srila Prabhupada bouncing checks. I think that was the beginning of his end.

I forgot to mention, he tried to pawn off one of his bouncing checks on me, but it had a car's tire track clearly on it, obviously he found it on the road somewhere. Another devotee with half good and half bad character, typical of a lot of them from the 1970s. 

Anyway, he seems to be suffering currently and we wish him well. 

I really thought his little daughter Sarawswati was adorable in India, but I am told she is now calling herself "Sara" and is alienated from the religion and is living like a modern American housewife. Another Krishna kid who is not participating in ISKCON, I think for obvious reasons. 

I wish her well too, but she clearly did not get a proper support system to bring her into devotional life. But she did have some association with Srila Prabhupada and that will stay with her. Unfortunately, this seems to show she has little to no part in caring for Shyamsundar. And we do not blame her for that either. She had to take care of herself by herself. And she carved out her own life out of necessity, that is what it looks like to me. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
   

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CREDIBILITY MUST BE EARNED

Dear Vaishnavas,

Please accept my respectful obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

These letters about the Nepal CPO mess bring me great sadness, not only because of what they reveal, but because what they reveal is so utterly unnecessary and preventable.

"These children are given to us by Krishna, they are Vaisnavas and we must be very careful to protect them. These are not ordinary children, they are Vaikuntha children, and we are very fortunate we can give them chance to advance further in Krishna Consciousness. That is very great responsibility, do not neglect it or be confused." (Letter to Arundhati dasa, July 30, 1972)

"These children are the future hope of our Society, so it is a very important matter how we are training them in Krishna consciousness from the very childhood." (Letter to Satsvarupa Maharaja, April 11, 1973)

While I am not familiar with the broader case, the contents of this letter alone are sufficient to draw the conclusion that this situation is a direct consequence of ISKCON's leadership disregarding the clear and simple instructions of Srila Prabhupada reported above.

Sadly the incidents described in this letter are not isolated and out of character, rather they constitute a continuum of a well established pattern of how the institution of ISKCON has handled child protection matters for the last 50 years.

Mark my words: the cumulative effect of the grievous Vaishnava aparadha committed and enabled by ISKCON's leadership through their continued and intentional disregard for Srila Prabhupada's instructions to protect and cherish devotee children, spanning generations, over the last fifty years, will cause incalculable damage to his legacy.

For as long as I can remember, the GBC's stance has been one in which the protection and best interests of children are treated as separate from, and less important than, the political interests of the institution. This vision lacks basic human decency, but it is also callous and shortsighted.

Setting aside spiritual considerations entirely for a moment, even if ISKCON's leadership had no interest whatsoever in spiritual life. Even if it were made up of hardened materialists whose sole interests were money, power, prestige, and followers; it would still make sound practical sense to ensure that the care and protection of children was a foremost priority.

If for no other reason, simply because neglecting their protection has the potential to destroy the entire institution. And yet, somehow, ISKCON's leaders have demonstrated that they lack even the foresight and basic prudence I would expect from such a heartless materialist.

Is it any wonder that ISKCON is struggling all over the world? And behind every institutional failure stands a child whose trust was broken, whose voice went unheard, and whose wound may last a lifetime.

What this letter makes painfully clear is twofold: first, that political motives have come to override the stated purpose of CPO Bharat and CPOC, making the protection of our Vaishnava children anything but their priority; and second, that neither body followed their own guidelines, which require them to employ qualified child protection professionals to carry out investigations. This oversight further damages their already compromised standing.

In this letter Kanai Sundar prabhu makes a very serious and concerning allegation; that CPO Bharat has used child protection to serve a political agenda. Not only are the investigators unqualified, but they brought a predetermined agenda and bias that can only cause further harm to the children.

There is something especially diabolical about the weaponization of child protection! To corrupt the one sanctuary that exists for the most vulnerable among us, to turn it into a political weapon, is a betrayal of the most sacred order. It is a desecration of the very principle of protection itself.

In short, this letter further confirms what has been evident to many for some time. Neither CPO Bharat nor CPOC possesses the professionalism or credibility required to adequately carry out the vital service of protecting children.

Credibility is a priceless currency, it cannot be demanded; it is earned through the integrity of one's conduct.

To date, neither body has demonstrated the necessary standard.

It is naive and reckless to hope or expect that a service as delicate as the protection of children can be carried out without the necessary credibility and good will of the Vaishnava community.

While a part of me feels a deep sense of hopelessness, I continue to believe that accountability must go hand in hand with a cry for Grace!

I pray that Krsna and Srila Prabhupada inspire the leadership of ISKCON to change their view of child protection, before another generation of Vaikuntha children pays the price of their indifference.

Aspiring to serve the Vaishnavas,

SR das

Sunday, May 10, 2026

ISKCON's New $290 Messiah Gainesville Certificate 05 10 26


Bhaktivedanta Institute for Higher Studies (BIHS)

This May 27–31, 2026, ISKCON North America will host the Spiritual Leadership Seminar: Being Guru in ISKCON for the first time on the continent. The seminar offers a valuable opportunity for devotees engaged in spiritual leadership and outreach to gain deeper insight, meaningful association, and inspiration through the guidance of senior Vaiṣṇava teachers. The seminar will be led by Anuttama Dasa, in coordination with Mahatma Dasa.



PADA: Right, so when the GBC program bans, beats, molests, sues and kills people like Sulochana, that is exactly where the victims "are supposed to be." WE are supposed to make YOU suffer, and you have to take it -- without complaints! I forgot, complaining simply makes you a bigger target. Sulochana is "supposed to be" -- dead? Honestly pilgrims!  

Bottom line: a (gurukuli) child who was starved, beaten, molested, and maybe had to endure "anal reconstructive surgery" was "supposed to be treated that way" by the Mahatma / GBC's guru process. And a number of those ex-child victims are still suffering the results even as adults. 

Some of them ended their lives due to all the trauma. And their suffering was all pre-planned and pre-intended and "was supposed to be." Because it was their karma? And making other's suffering is intended and supposed to happen -- by whose authority?  

OK "it is your karma" to be banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed. And we GBC gurus are your karma masters. So WE have the karma of making a program of dishing out karma and victimizing others. Like you guys, suckers! 

This is another version of the Jayadvaita's idea. The people who are victims of their bad gurus "made the wrong choice of guru." So when a five years old child is beaten, or maybe worse, that is because the five years old children "made the wrong choice of guru." WTF?

Sorry, the persons selecting the gurus for ISKCON are the GBC, not the victims, certainly not the five years olds. This is called victim blaming. Jayadvaita also told me selecting a guru in ISKCON is like buying a used car, there is no guarantee. 

So Krishna's gurus and His parampara are "like buying a used car"? The good news is at least they tell us in advance -- their gurus are prone to illicit sex with men, women and maybe kids. OK not a good place to find a guru, which is why their temples are empty. 

But how can a five years old child be in charge of ISKCON's guru selection process, and he gets blamed when the selection is faulty? Victim blaming. You guys are suffering from our program, which is what you are supposed to have happen to you. We make you suffer, because we are "supposed to make you suffer." We are the authorized boss of karma, you are not! We make you suffer, now your job is to suck it up and accept your suffering as "supposed to happen."  

There are also probably hundreds of ex-ISKCON gurukula kids living in California and the West Coast -- who avoid ISKCON, some of them hate and detest ISKCON, some of them eat meat, and some of them think the Krishna movement is a Satanic child sacrificing cult. And all that odious result is just what was "supposed to be" as the victims soured and destroyed idea of Krishna and His religion. Why is it that people are "supposed" to be thinking the Krishna religion is a Satanic cult? That is what was supposed to happen?

Wowsers pilgrims. Yeah, think about it! Thinking ISKCON is a Satanic cult is fine, it is exactly the perception that it is "supposed to be." OK so when we say ISKCON is a homosexual and pedophile messiah's club, that is fine, it is the description that Krishna's religion is "supposed" to have. Where is this stated by Srila Prabhupada or Krishna? 

Yup! Making the nomenclature for ISKCON as the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club is supposed to happen and is "supposed to be." Who made all this "supposed to happen" -- happen? I think more than a few people would say Kali Yuga made all this happen and it is NOT what Krishna wanted to have happen.   

Traditionally held in Mayapur during Gaura Purnima, this five-day in-person seminar will take place at the Bhaktivedanta Institute for Higher Studies (BIHS) in Gainesville, Florida. Its availability in North America makes this training more accessible to those serving in guiding roles across the region.

PADA: Right, traditionally we hold our guru wanna be classes in Mayapur, head quarters of the Jayapataka / Bhavananda homosexual and pedophile gurukula problem, also known as Auschwitz for kids by some of the victims. But now we are holding these same seminars with the supporters, defenders and enablers of Mayapur. So the chief architect defenders and supporters of the Mayapur Auschwitz for kids projects are now going to rubber stamp -- more defenders and supporters of same?


The registration cost is $290, which includes prasadam, seminar materials, and shared seminar expenses.

PADA: Wow, I can become another Jesus for only $290! What a bargain price. I would have thought getting to have the same status as Jesus would cost billions, or trillions, therefore only $290 is a fair deal! Sign me up! Wait, what, I almost forgot, Mahatma is the person issuing the "you are the new Jesus" certificates. It might not pass muster at the pearly gates.  

The seminar is designed for experienced devotees involved in spiritual leadership, outreach, and congregational development. It brings together senior Vaisnavas and Vaisnavis in a setting that encourages thoughtful discussion, reflection, and shared learning. Through this association and mentorship, participants have the opportunity to deepen their understanding and refine how they guide, support, and care for others in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, drawing on both śāstra and lived experience.

Participants will explore a range of important topics related to spiritual leadership and pastoral care, including principles of effective spiritual leadership, personal spiritual well-being, and the role and identity of the guru within ISKCON. 

PADA: The role and identity of a guru in ISKCON is -- for most of them -- they fell down, got sick from taking karma, blooped, made big scandals, and people like Giriraj, Trivrikrama and others decided to have affairs with female disciples when they were older than gran-pappy Moses. OK more scandals on top of more scandals. 

The seminar will also examine the guru–disciple relationship and discuss healthy dynamics between spiritual leaders and the broader ISKCON structure, encouraging thoughtful reflection and practical application in service and community life.

This yearly seminar was organized by the GBC Guru Services Committee, with direct input from senior leaders including Bhakti Charu Swami, Jayapataka Swami, Radhanatha Swami, Ravindra Svarupa Dasa, and other senior devotees and educators.

PADA: Oh swell the Mayapur Auschwitz for kid's program's cheer leaders.

The seminar is highly interactive, creating space for meaningful exchange and allowing participants to grow through dialogue, reflection, and shared realizations among peers engaged in similar service.

In the context of the 3/35 Initiative—aiming to engage 3% of North America in Krishna consciousness by 2035—there is a growing need for experienced, spiritually grounded leadership to guide and care for existing communities, while also cultivating steady growth that genuinely connects with local populations and people from diverse backgrounds.

PADA: Spiritually grounded people do not support an illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project, and they never will.

Many senior devotees carry years of dedicated service and valuable realization, and this seminar connects them with other senior Vaisnavas in meaningful sanga. The building of kinship and community among senior Vaisnava leaders strengthens their ability to navigate the responsibilities of spiritual leadership and to guide and support others.

Scholarships Available

While the seminar’s presence in North America removes the barrier of international travel, financial limitations still prevent some qualified devotees from attending due to the costs of travel and course registration fees (which help cover the costs of hosting the seminar and providing prasadam for all attendees).

As many of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples and senior devotees enter later stages of life, those who have dedicated themselves to preaching and service have not always had the opportunity to build financial security, making it difficult for some to participate without support.

Reflecting on his own experience attending the seminar in Mayapur, Swami B. A. Ashram shared: “I took the Spiritual Leadership course in Mayapur, and I’m grateful to the Guru Services Committee for developing and presenting the course. I found the association among fellow participants and seminar presenters a highlight. The company of so many dedicated devotees provided for many frank, lively discussions, helping us make better-informed decisions about how we might serve the broader society of devotees.

“However, not all of us considering this service can afford the travel, lodging, and fees associated with the course. I believe anyone who has the means to help by sponsoring scholarships would find this a satisfying way to participate in the growth of the Krishna consciousness movement.”

To support wider participation, a scholarship fund has been established to assist those eager to attend but who require financial assistance. This initiative helps ensure that qualified and dedicated devotees are able to attend, regardless of financial circumstances. To make a donation, click here.

By helping devotees attend, supporters help strengthen leaders who are better equipped to guide, support, and care for others. In this way, each contribution helps strengthen the quality of leadership and care within ISKCON communities for years to come.

The seminar is open to ISKCON gurus (diksa and siksa), sannyasis, regional directors, temple presidents, and other senior leaders and teachers (both Vaisnavas and Vaisnavis) with at least ten years of active service in ISKCON.

As per ISKCON Law, it is required for those preparing to serve as diksa-guru, and is highly recommended for those engaged in guiding and supporting others. Those who are able are warmly encouraged to consider supporting this effort, and to encourage qualified senior devotees who may benefit from this training and saṅga to attend.

Devotees who have been actively engaged in outreach and spiritual guidance for over ten years are invited to attend. For registration and inquiries, please email here.

“Simply, you have to become sincere to Krsna, and you learn Krsna through His representative. You become sincere to the representative of Krsna and Krsna, yasya deve para bhaktir yatha deve tatha gurau [SU 6.23], then you are spiritual master. It is not very difficult. And become, every one of you, become spiritual master and preach this gospel of Bhagavad-gita as it is, then the world will be saved.” — Srila Prabhupada, Lecture, Vrindavan, February 12, 1974

Abhaktisastri Victorino

Why is Hridayananda teaching if he wrote an essay against Srila Prabhupada's teachings called 'Vaisnava Moral Theology and Homosexuality'? Honest question.


PADA: Yep, as soon as you become a member of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club, you are Krishna's representative. Where does Krishna say that? Anyway, to become a member of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs club, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavasa, only costs $290! 

That is the bargain price to head to Beelzebub's kingdom in Hades. Yep, you were banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed, as was supposed happen! Because we GBC, and Krishna, are masters of your karma and destiny. We are the master Gods of your karma, because we are the same authority as God. And for only $290 you too can become equal to God, shaksat hari no less. Who knew!

"Being a guru" is now like "being a plumber." You get your guru certificate and voila, you are now God's shaksat hari successor. And you take a plumber's course, get your toilet plunger and drain cleaner tools, get a certificate, and you are a plumber! Except, a plumber is not going to create a mass of banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders, because he knows how to behave better than these messiahs. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com




ONE OF THE BIHS CONTRIBUTORS

From Henry Doktorski 

Hello, Henry-ji.

I had a question as I was reading the last chapter of Killing for Krishna. Please tell whether there is any proof that Radhanath, Janmastami, and other members were subpoenaed in 1993. Because Kirtanananda, if I am right, had successfully appealed against the judgment of the first trial that concluded in 1991. 

Why were they subpoenaed? Please tell in some detail about how Radhanath Swami’s father was able to protect him from the government? He was not a big man! There was no evidence that Radhanath was involved in the plot at that time. There was no witness who would testify against him. So why would he take the help of his father in the first place.

Devotee in Kolkata (Name deleted by request)

Author’s reply: Thank you for your inquiry, Sir. Very soon after Bhaktipada was convicted on Good Friday, 1991, he made a motion to appeal his case. If the motion was approved by the judge, the prosecutors knew if he won his appeal that they would have to try him again in court. As it was, Alan Dershowitz, whom Bhaktipada hired in May 1991, won Bhaktipada’s appeal two years later, on July 1, 1993, as explained in Killing For Krishna.

Janmastami claims that he and Radhanath and Paramahansa - Krishna Swami and Bhakti - Rasa Swami were subpoenaed in Spring of 1993, Janmastami claims that he and Radhanath were asked to talk about the Sulochan murder charges, and PK Swami and Bhakti-Rasa on copyright issues. PK was director of Palace Publishing. At this time Bhaktipada had not yet won his appeal, but even if he had, there is no reason why the prosecutors would not continue their investigation, as they thought if Bhaktipada won his appeal, they would charge him again and try him again in court, which they did in April 1996.

Regarding Radhanath Swami and his father, we do not know what influence Gerald Slavin had / has on Federal Law Enforcement or Investigative agencies. We know, as stated in Radhanath Swami’s autobiography, that Gerald Slavin had become quite wealthy since the 1970s. Wealthy people often contribute generously to political campaigns, such as elections for judges, police chiefs, district attorneys, governors, Congressmen, etc. Wealthy people often have strong connections with political leaders.

Some claim that the father of Sri-Galim (Gary Gardner), a wealthy Texas cattle rancher, sold 100 head of cattle to pay off the West Virginia District Attorney who was in charge of the child sexual molestation case of Sri-Galim to convince him to drop the charges. Mother Kanka, whose son was molested by Sri-Galim, had several boys, including her son, ready to testify at trial that Sri-Galim had sexually abused the boys. However, suddenly and without warning, the charges were dropped. Very strange, in my opinion. Wealth certainly has a great influence on justice in the United States.

Lately it has come to my attention that Radhanath Swami may still be involved with a government agency, perhaps the CIA, as an informant within ISKCON. It is certainly possible, that the United States government in 1993 wanted a spy with a very high position at New Vrindaban, and they may have promised Radhanath Swami that any information incriminating him in the murder of Sulochan, or other crimes at New Vrindaban, would not be used against him, if he became a government informant, as Randall Gorby earlier had been.

Undoubtedly, as he was implicated up to his neck in the plot (to kill Sulochan), as revealed in Killing For Krishna, Radhanath Swami would have jumped at the opportunity to save his neck. A year later, when he rejoined ISKCON as an initiating guru and GBC member, he undoubtedly became much more valuable as a government informant highly planted in ISKCON.

We do not know any of this, but recent events, including a government agent familiar with the New Vrindaban case, has recently approached one of the devotees who participated in the murder plot, and strongly suggested that he keep his nose out of business which the United States government does not want anyone to know about. This devotee has decided to “retire” from his efforts to convince Radhanath Swami to confess his involvement in the murder as he knows he has absolutely no power against the vast wealth of the United States government. 

He does not want to end up as Randall Gorby, another government informant, ended up: dead. It was officially ruled a suicide, but under extremely suspicious circumstances.

Perhaps Radhanath Swami also fears the United States government. If he is and has been an informant for the last 27 years, he has undoubtedly contributed much information about criminal activities which may be still going on in ISKCON. Maybe he is stuck between a rock and a hard place. If he confesses that he helped in the conspiracy to murder Sulochan, he would certainly lose his favored informant status, and might expect an assassination attempt, similar perhaps to what happened to Gorby.

We can only pray for Radhanath Swami’s deliverance. When I last saw him, he appeared to be in great anxiety, and I expect he is still in anxiety today. Certainly the actual facts regarding the story of the murder of Sulochan are difficult to discern, and it is likely, in my opinion, that Radhanath, Kuladri, and others in ISKCON and the government will take these secrets with them to their graves.

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TATASTHA SHAKTI

Only in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman are the jiva souls known as tatastha sakti.

The jiva soul's do NOT originate from the marginal plane because they ARE the marginal plane that has ALWAYS existed.

No jiva soul originates from a dormant inactive impersonal condition some call Tatastha-sakti either as some teach, their impersonal understanding is NOT the real meaning of Tatastha-sakti.

Srila Prabhupada – "Those who are in the dormant brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness". (Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Therefore no jiva soul literally originates from Tatastha-sakti (the marginal plane) because it is NOT a place, it is what the jiva tattva souls are known as eternally without beginning or end, "the marginal living entities".

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We are winning! Again! 
Winning what?

Saturday, May 9, 2026

Harikesh / MEGALOMANIA / Stri Dharma / Hindu-ized ISKCON 05 09 26

 

HARIKESH AND CHILDREN


PADA: Yes, when Harikesh left he evidently said the reason is -- there is too much widespread child mistreatment all over the society. Yep, exactly the reason why his program booted me out in 1979. I said there is widespread child mistreatment. 

He also knew we were getting booted, and he was booting dozens of people himself. And he later must have knew that was why me and Sulochana were targets in 1984. We said -- there is widespread child mistreatment. He never supported us or acknowledged us ever, even now. If there is widespread child mistreatment going on, and we are reporting it for decades, his job as a leader is to support us whistle blowers. He never did. Probably, never will. 

All kinds of people tell me this all the time, "once we realized how corrupt it was, and that the leaders are mostly adharma and asura (and pro-homosexual and pedophile) we left." Oh great, so you left the ISKCON society and its women, children, elders and cows in the hands of the adharma and asura crowd. Thanks a lot buster!
 
ys pd

ZN: Interesting it reminds me on case Epstein files ... something going on the level of "deep state" against humanity on this planet .. many leaders were influenced.

MEGALOMANIA

As Dr. J. Stilson Judah explained to me, a person who believes he is God's living successor on earth is something like a delusional megalomaniac. He is not a person who can be given good advice, bad advice, or any advice, he believes he is beyond all of the rules and regulations of us minor peon mortals. And that places us minor peon mortals in a lot of peril. And this type of peril can be fatal. And he said in my case -- it probably will be fatal. He did not expect me to survive and wanted me to go into Federal witness protection.

Megalomania consistently refers to: A delusional belief in one’s own power, importance, or greatness; An unnaturally strong desire for power and control; A psychopathological condition involving fantasies of wealth, omnipotence, or grandeur; A mental illness marked by an inflated sense of self‑importance; A belief that one is more powerful or important than reality supports; All sources agree on the core idea: grandiosity, power‑obsession, and inflated self‑importance. He said, they are not going to listen to the admonishing of others, thinking the peons have no authority over God's spokesman. These type people are not going to listen as a general principle. Hansadutta told me that too, Why would God's spokesman need anyone's advice at all? ys pd


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KAUNTEYA ON STRI DHARMA

Don’t Use "Dharma" to Excuse Abuse

Another devotee objected to my emphasis on the dharma of the husband to protect the wife:

“The concept of dharma is independent of the external conditions. If you protect dharma, dharma protects you … This is the Vedic idea, not protectorate calculation and victimism. This is the ontology (as it is) principle of dharma, that is a high ideal.”

On the social level, the “Vedic idea” is exactly what this devotee disdains as “protectorate calculation.” Srila Prabhupada explains (SB 1.14.41, purport):
“The brāhmaṇas, who are always engaged in researching knowledge for the society's welfare work, both materially and spiritually, deserve the protection of the king in all respects. Similarly, the children of the state, the cow, the diseased person, the woman and the old man specifically require the protection of the state or a kṣatriya king. If such living beings do not get protection by the kṣatriya, or the royal order, or by the state, it is certainly shameful for the kṣatriya or the state.”

A husband’s dharma, a king’s dharma, a parent’s dharma, and a community’s dharma cannot be erased by telling vulnerable people to simply perform their own duties better.

A balanced dharmic understanding would say: dharma protects — but dharma also includes the protector’s duty to protect.

I do not reject the principle “dharma protects.”

I reject its selective, one-sided application.

Karma is real, and personal responsibility is real. But “victim-responsibilizing dharma” becomes problematic when the doctrine of karma is used to minimize, excuse, or bypass the moral responsibility of others. In dharmic thought, multiple truths operate simultaneously.

A person may be experiencing karmic reactions, yet another person can still be acting adharmically toward them. The existence of karma does not erase accountability. Each of us has the responsibility to see our suffering as the consequence of our action, but this doesn’t excuse the perpetrators of abuse.

That devotee continued his critique:

“Sooner or later our bhakti is tested through dharmic adherence, when we need to decide, whether saranagati is a calculative business transaction or unconditional surrender. The test is than repeated life after life, until we fully understand that bhakti behind dharma gives higher platform beyond protection, justice, truth and similar externalities.”

Individually, yes, we should all cultivate the spirit of acceptance of our personal predicament as a result of our past choices and not be diverted or distracted from our bhakti progress – I agree.

But a community that depreciates and delegitimizes “protection, justice, truth and similar externalities” can turn into a jungle of selfish beasts.

PADA: "Can turn into a jungle of selfish beasts." Wowsers. Could not have said it better myself. ys pd

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HINDU-IZED ISKCON

S Devidasi

With respect, I think the issue depends on whether we are speaking academically, culturally, or according to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s own presentation. Academically, ISKCON is often placed within the wider Hindu/Vaishnava family because it follows Gaudiya Vaishnavism and accepts the Bhagavad-gītā, Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and Vedic scriptures.

However, Śrīla Prabhupāda himself was very clear that he did not want Krishna consciousness reduced to the label “Hinduism”. He said: “This word Hindu is not a Sanskrit word… the real cultural institution is called varnasrama.”

He also said of the Krishna consciousness movement: “It is not Indian or Hinduism. It is for all the people of the world.”

In another conversation he explained that when devotees say “we are not Hindu,” the meaning is not hostility towards Hindus, but that Krishna is not restricted to one community. He said: “We are not restricted to the Hindus… We actually spreading universal brotherhood.” He also said, “Hindus are included but Kṛṣṇa is not restricted to Hindus.”

So my understanding is: ISKCON is rooted in Gaudiya Vaishnavism, which many people classify under Hinduism, but Prabhupāda’s own emphasis was that Krishna consciousness is universal, non-sectarian, and not limited to the social, ethnic, or modern religious label “Hindu.” Therefore, saying “ISKCON is Hinduism” is too simplistic. A more accurate statement would be: ISKCON is a Gaudiya Vaishnava movement presenting Krishna bhakti as universal sanātana-dharma.

References:

“This word Hindu is not a Sanskrit word…”

Śrīla Prabhupāda explains that “Hindu” is not originally a Sanskrit term and that the real system is varṇāśrama.

Link: https://prabhupadabooks.com/ssr/6/spiritual_communism

Source confirms the wording: “This word Hindu is not a Sanskrit word…”

“It is not Indian or Hinduism. It is for all the people of the world.”

This is from a 1969 conversation with John Lennon, Yoko Ono and George Harrison.

Link: https://prabhupadabooks.com/conversations/1969/aug/with_john_lennon_yoko_ono_and_george_harrison/london/september/11/1969

“We are not Hindu means… we are not restricted to the Hindus.”

This page is very useful because it gathers Prabhupāda quotes explaining that Krishna consciousness is universal, not limited to the Hindu community.

Link: https://vaniquotes.org/wiki/We_are_not_Hindu_means

It includes the quote: “Hindus are included but Kṛṣṇa is not restricted to Hindus.”


T Krishna: Bhavananda the Beast, who rapes children, is the demon who has been leading that TOVP project. So isn't it interesting that he has used the same dome architecture as the Vatican? They have hijacked the movement and turned it into something like the Catholic Church.

AT: Yes, yes Srila Prabhupada said you will not find the word anywhere in any vedic scriptures anywhere, all man made concoction, But Srila Prabhupada that we should never leave iskcon, Srila said as the saying England with all your faults I love you still, that should be our motto, " iskcon with all your faults I love you still,

Hare Krishna prabhu

TK: Did he actually say that though? Take a look at this interesting book change in that regard...

ORIGINAL 1975 PURPORT EXTRACT FROM CC MADHYA 19.157:

“If one thinks that there are many pseudo devotees or nondevotees in the Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society, one can keep direct company with the spiritual master, and if there is any doubt, one should consult the spiritual master.”

CHANGED 1996 VERSION WITH JAYADVAITA'S ADDITIONAL STATEMENT:

"Even if one thinks that there are many pseudo devotees or nondevotees in the Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society, still one should stick to the Society; if one thinks the Society’s members are not pure devotees, one can keep direct company with the spiritual master, and if there is any doubt, one should consult the spiritual master."

YD: ... and Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita As It Is 18.66. ...

ED: Hindu is a broad Kali Yuga term used by the masses to loosely identify Sanatana dharma and the family tree stemming from Sri Krishna, Vishnu, Brahma, Siva. If we want to be accurate in describing something we love and adore. We use the best description possible.

Srila Gurudeva has mentioned in audio recordings that the term isn’t in sastra and is ambiguous. But he also uses the term to refer to the broad following of Sanatana Dharma and give his listeners context, because that’s all they know, how else would He logically describe something?. It doesn’t matter if individuals want to use it or identify with it.

It’s just not the best way to describe Krishna consciousness. And as for Vaishnava devotees using the term officially for their organisations, I would think is a symptom of Kali Yuga and not the best practice. And I assume it will only be popular amongst neophyte groups.

I hope this comment doesn’t offend anyone.

Om Tat Sat

H Das: "And so far we are concerned, Hindus, or the followers of the Vedic religion, there is no difference of opinion so far Kṛṣṇa's authority is concerned. There are five authorities, recognized authorities, in India so far this is..., spiritual life is concerned. One of them is Śrī Rāmānujācārya and other is Śaṅkarācārya." [Lecture on Maha-mantra -- New York, September 8, 1966]

D Dasa: I think that a bunch of things get mixed up together….. Philosophical pedantism. It was a consistent teaching of Prabhupada’s that Krishna consciousness is beyond upadhis like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism…

But there were instances where he said such things as:

“The Krishna consciousness movement is the genuine Hindu movement.”

Letter to Janardana

December 26, 1968

“This Krishna consciousness movement is actually the genuine Hindu culture.”

Letter to Gurudasa

August 3, 1969

“So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a cultural movement for reviving the original consciousness of the living entity. It is not a sectarian religious faith, although it is based on the highest principles of Hindu religion.”

Lecture on Bhagavad-gita As It Is 4.1

March 27, 1974

It is not OBJECTIONABLE philosophically to accept that we are typically classified thus. It’s label/category that people understand rather than our trying to convey - well we are actually in this obscure branch of Vaisnavism…..

Akhandadhi and co leveraged the “if you want to shut down Bhaktivedanta Manor, then you’ll have to deal with the UK’s entire Hindu population” tactic was helpful in the campaign to keep the Manor open.

Of course, many would observe that the Manor’s entire “personality” has changed from the nature it had in its first 10 years of operation or so to what it is now.

Beyond the philosophical pedantism, there may well be an identity issue….. “I don’t want to be seen as a Hindu”…..

And the legitimate concern that the concentrations of Indians attending temple possibly deters Westerners from engaging…..

These all need separating out. And people also need to reckon within themselves as to whether their discomfort with that highly generalise label has more to do with a low impression of “Hinduism” or not…..

Another worry could be that some temples might be introducing non Gaudiya forms of worship that Prabhupada wouldn’t approve of.

(NB. I asked Chat GPT to source those quotes so I will quickly check their veracity)

H Das: "According to Vedic civilization, cow is to be given all protection. The Hindus or followers of the Vedic religion, why they are interested to give protection to the cows, not to the..., not so much to the other animals?" [Sunday Feast Lecture -- Atlanta, March 2, 1975]

"Prabhupāda: So far Hindu religion is concerned, it is a very broad thinking. The Hindu religion, Vedic religion, is divided into two kinds of philosophers. One kinds of philosopher is the impersonalist. They take the Absolute Truth as impersonal, all-pervading impersonal. And the another philosophers, they take that the Supreme Absolute Truth is person. The impersonal feature is one of the features of that person, but ultimately he is person. So without person there cannot be any question of love." [Interview -- September 24, 1968, Seattle]

I dont know we are making a big deal about the word Hindu. We need to understand that the vedic religion is today known as Hinduism. Within Hinduism there are vaisnavas, sakta's, mayavadis etc. Sanatana Dharma and Hinduism are interchangeable today. The other Vaishnava sampradaya’s have no issues using the word Hindu, then why do we have issues. If one does not like it then dont use it, but let's not create unnecessary discussion on this. Tbh we are not these bodies, but yet we associate ourselves as male, female, American Indian etc. Spiritually we are spirit soul, but yet we associate ourselves with something.

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Friday, May 8, 2026

Using Krishna for Making Money 05 08 26

 



Using Krishna for Making Money

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi : It is heartbreaking to see what is happening at ISKCON Adelaide. Temple festivals and sacred yajnas are not meant to become business transactions. Bhakti is not for sale. Mantras are not for sale. The blessings of Lord Nrsimhadeva are not for sale.

Last year, devotees were told they could “secure blessings” for their family by paying a mandatory participation fee to sit at the yajna and receive a Nrsmha Mantra. This year, again, a mandatory $61 fee is being required for participation in the Nrsimha Yajna for up to 4 family members.

Since when did attending yajna become ticketed entry? Srila Prabhupada warned against karma-kanda mentality and turning devotional life into a paid ritual service. Sponsorship is one thing, but charging devotees mandatory fees just to participate in worship is another.

Even free prasadam plates is being replaced by food stalls selling food, some not even offered to the Deities, instead of freely distributing Krishna prasadam. A temple should be focused on making devotees, not making money. Krishna consciousness should never be commercialised.

Radha Kanta Dasi Tkg: Happening now in most temples ... no surprise here.

Rādhā Śyāmasundara Dāsa: Hare Krsna dear Mataji, thats true in a sense, although I guess a minimum is required else people tend to only give a couple of coins. If money is going for temple maintenance and care then it's ok I think, its gratitude to the Lord and devotees for the blessings and service.

It costs a lot to maintain temple and have free prasadam distribution so sometimes paid events like stalls help that. Give and take type thing as long as it doesn't become the focus.

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi: Rādhā Śyāmasundara Dāsa I hear you, and know how much the bills are, coz hey everyone has bills that live in the material world. But the interesting thing about the new management here is that the only focus is money and not bhakti.

Rādhā Śyāmasundara Dāsa: Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi Jaya Gauranga! Yeah that would be too much when that becomes the focus. Visitors would pick that up and feel less inclined to come or participate.

Eliza Ba Than: I was facilitating a namahutta centre in Townsville every Saturday for 13 years. During that time, I have not asked a cent of donations from the congregation. Instead, I set up a charity that raises funds at the same time, giving clarity to the homeless. My own funds support my weekly Prasadam and that was provided for free to attendees numbers varying from 10 to 30. 

I also hosted Janamashtami and Rath Yatra and cooked for 100 or more people. On going members bring a plate on Saturdays and festivals were funded by me. On the other hand, in another nearby town a program started running on festivals and Prasadam was to be purchased by the host. This clearly shows the lack of foresight by the temple in raising funds for Prasadam and exploitative activities such as yajna fees, against our temple principles set by Srila Prabhupada. 

In the name of a temple, money is made. There should be other ways to raise funds like running the restaurant properly, and temple shop, books etc instead of exploiting the secred mantras . What a shame! But not a surprise.

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi: Eliza Ba Than Srila Prabhupada established protocols for the preaching and temples and primarly the approach has been around the vaisnava principle of krpalu (mercy), and not that of the opposite trait of krpana or miserliness. 

What you have described in your preaching and approach is the Iskcon approach that those of us who joined decades ago are used to. Having congregation offer up donations or suggesting donations has always been around, but never mandatory for attending the temple. In this centre, the Deities are monetised. They have Jaganatha Baladeva and Subhadra Deities, who are kept in a cupboard upstairs for the whole year, in the dark, then brought out and placed before the community in the temple room to be given worship for a day, a Panihati festival on the first day of the year. 

Then they are put back in the cupboard for the remainder of the year. This year, the new management asked everyone to give money for them, and they left a donation box in front of them. Then they just left these Deities sitting there for a few days, with the donation box, to encourage people to give more money. The Deities, were not worshiped, not given water, bhoga or re-dressed during this time, they were only there to attract donations into the hundi. 

Then they went back into the cupboard where they are right now, locked up, gathering dust or covered with no air. This Nrsmha Caturdasi they will bring out of the cupboard an Ugra Nrsmha for the same purpose. There is no love, no Bhakti, no understanding and no consciousness as to who Krishna is, who is the Guru and what does the Guru want us to do. Spiritual life is a razors edge. Walk with the required balance and you dont get cut. Walk with the balance and it all goes wrong.

Eliza Ba Than: Jaya Sacinatha Dasa Absolutely ... but we must do karma yoga. Not enterprising as a business in temple to maintain it.

Jaya Sacinatha Dasa: I know.

Amogh Ananta Virya Mogre: Preposterous. Is the temple going broke??

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi: Amogh Ananta Virya Mogre apparently no. Just monetising Krishna and using him as a cash cow.

Syamapriya Dasi: Viewing or observing a yagna has the same potency of actually participating in a yagya. Also mentally being present in a yagya has the same benefit if one cannot be present. I know this based on personal experience when I have not been able to be present at iskcon sydney yagyas, abhishekhs and other events. 

I was instructed to mentally make my offerings and I really received the reciprocation from the residing deities. So Adelaide devotees should use their intelligence when it comes to money/donations/ reasons, their own capacity. This is my two cents worth of comment. 

Lord Krishna really burnt the fingers of a Brahmin. The Brahmin was just imagining offering hot kheer. When the worried Brahmin imagined dipping his own fingers in the kheer to check the temperature in case he burnt the Lord... He really did burn his fingers. Such is true bhakti. Just don't pay if you cannot for reasons wrong or right.

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi: Syamapriya Dasi 100 percent agree. Srila Prabhupada established the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, not the International Society for Money Consciousness. Bhakti is heartfelt and not about the bank balance. Ordinary donations for Temples is one thing, but restricting entrance based on a payment is completely bogus.

Syamapriya Dasi: Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi yes, ISKCON was established for bhakti. Temple was built to facilitate Bhakti. It is for harinaam Sankirtan yagya. It is for Krishna Consciousness which is the way back to Godhead and ISKCON temples are meant for this reason. In service of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission, for Srila Prabhupada. 

So, all temples management need to be like minded, otherwise the efforts of Srila Prabhupada are not met. Not paying this donation will still be fine if bhakti is there, that was my point actually. Bhakti will not diminish. Although management should make the effort to be right by Srila Prabhupada. There has never been entrance fees charged to enter ISKCON temple or to enter a yagya for observation.

Krsnangi Mulder: The sad part of these types of initiatives that are more and more creeping in, is that also they start to create disparity, inequality between groups of people of different economical status, rather than equal access for all to spiritual bhakti nourishment. There are examples of this already with access to participate and spend time at the Iskcon farm communities or retreats. 

It is great that there are now guest facilities and the funds raised for overnight or weekly stays support the running costs of the farms which can be extensive to maintain. The amounts charged though do restrict access for those of lower incomes to visit, to be spiritually uplifted, to engage in service, for association.

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi: Krsnangi Mulder yes I agree with your points. Temples do cost to run, and it is expected that donations are required to keep everything afloat, yet the approach in this temple is completely out of balance. I see the development of the 'economy of bhakti', has arisen through these schemes that place a price on bhakti and access to the standard Temple environment and programs on offer. It does create a divide, the haves and the have nots'. 

A class or caste system of sorts. Interestingly enough here, if you dont drive a Mercedes, are not of wealth, or closely aligned with a person who has these, then you dont get access. This is not the mood that Srila Prabhupada wanted from the spiritual embassy temples of ISKCON, especially in the West. Economic bhakti looks more like karma kanda than Bhakti, and every morning we recite that it is an offence "To consider the chanting of Hare Krishna as one of the auspicious ritualistic activities which are offered in the Vedas as frutive activities (Karma kanda)". 

Surely an overt dollar value assigned to worship, sadhana or temple access and kirtan, has to fall into the same offence range. It is important for properly trained leaders to be placed running temples to ensure that the temple practices like these dont become materially based or that bit by bit it starts to look like an ordinary business venture.

Serguei Levykin: Krsnangi Mulder -- we haven't visited New Govardhana in years because it ends up as a very costly holiday for a family of four. Many other families have just quit going to ISKCON. This will decrease the attendance.

Syamapriya Dasi: Krsnangi Mulder I was being forced to "sponsor" my own birthday so they can celebrate in ISKCON Sydney. Even when I told them "it is not my birthday ". I was still being pushed to book it on my birthday! This is the same temple which has tried to remove me from ISKCON permanently. Not sure how exactly they would feel joyous on my birthday? They were so happy to see me go. O Krishna. 

BB: Yes they remove people all the time, especially the "non-paying".

Krsnangi Mulder: am sorry to hear that you have had this experience.

Luke Hedley: Lead a Coup! You were a Wonderful TP in my memory of my time there ... despite my crashing and burning you were always available for me dear Visnupriya ... Keep up the resistance Lovely One. Hare Krsna!

Narada Muni: It is concerning to see this trend becoming normal in many temples. Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada repeatedly warned us not to turn devotional life into karma-kanda or paid ritualistic activity. Bhakti is not something that can be purchased, and the mercy of the Lord is never dependent on money.

At the same time, he encouraged voluntary donations and service to support the temple - not mandatory fees for participation in worship.

Yajna, mantra, and prasadam are meant to be freely accessible as Krishna’s mercy. When the mood shifts from offering to transaction, we should carefully reflect on whether we are preserving the true spirit of Krishna consciousness.

Bharat Devnani: Do they accept crypto currency? I don't use cash, only bitcoin ...

BB: ISKCON will become a crypto currency religion soon enough ...

Ratna Prabha: I wanted to go to a fire yajns recently but couldn’t afford the fee for one.

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi: Ratna Prabha this is just atrocious. How can there be justification for stopping Iskcon devotees from practising their Guru given right to attend temple services. I am so sorry you had to experience that. This is what I mean by the ‘economy of Bhakti’.

Ratna Prabha: I agree, it is sad.

BB: Kali Yuga resides in gold (money).

Tedi Davis: So who is responsible? Or is it "the anonymous committee"?

Syamapriya Dasi: At no stage has Lord Krishna asked for money!

May be an image of text that says 'The Stages of Bhakti (devotion) leading to pure love of Lord Krishna 9. Prema Pure Love for Krishna 8. Bhava Spiritual Emotions 7. Asakti Deep Attachment 6. Ruci Taste for Devotion 5. Nistha Steadiness K 4. Anartha- Anartha-nivrrtti nivrrtti Clearing Bad Habits 3. Bhajan-kriya ๑83 Practise of Devotion 2. Sädhu-sanga Sadhu- Association with Saints 1. 1.Shraddha Faith'

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi: Pavan Nitai Chandra Das Ugh.... so Lord Nrsmhadeva only giving blessings to financial participants in the Dham! Kali Yuga creeping in.

Rama Dasa: Long, long gone are the days when we would skrimp and save during the week so that a plentiful, scrumptious Sunday feast would be provided for the guests. The idea was to make people aware of Krishna consciousness, not solely to increase the bank balance.

Visnupriya Karunamayi Devi Dasi: Rama Dasa exactly. Preaching is the essence, Utility the Principle, Books are the Basis and Purity is the Force. Nothing there about the bank balance being the principle.

Sankirtana Devi Dasi: San Diego did the same for the 6 years I lived in the area (2017-2022). Only “Donors” could take part. Not just certain festivals, every festival. We were allowed to bathe Srila Prabhupada during Vyasa Puja festival, however.

Jaya Sacinatha Dasa: I know. I was very surprised at the system, as I’d lived in multiple temples over the previous 4 decades.


Thursday, May 7, 2026

Book Changes / RITVIK AND GBC ARE THE SAME? / Sajjana Health 05 07 26


PADA: Yeesh prabhus, someone asked PADA, it seems like being in Maya is a whole lot easier than not being in Maya. Why is that? Well yup, that is the whole trouble isn't it! But I love the graphics in this video, it is very nicely done IMHO. 

ys pd 

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BOOK CHANGES: AJAMILA DASA ACBS

This amazing quote on NOT CHANGING Srila Prabhupada's books was shared by Candra Vilasini Dasi: The essential point by Srila Prabhupada:

"But if you add with it several grains of sand, it becomes useless. You can add it, simply a few grains of sand---then it is useless. Similarly, these rascaldom of commentary, a few grains of sand, we spoil Bhagavad-gītā."

Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa says in the Seventh Chapter, in the beginning. So everything is there. If we actually want to make our life perfect, the directions are already there in our... We have got the Vedic knowledge, treasure house of spiritual knowledge, and the Bhagavad-gītā is the gist, is the summary. Gītopaniṣad. It is called Upaniṣad. 

If you simply study Bhagavad-gītā as it is, without foolishly interpreting it... That will spoil. Don't interpret. Just like you have given paramānna, or kṣīra. Everyone knows what is kṣīra, milk and rice cooked together with sugar, very nice foodstuff. But if you add with it several grains of sand, it becomes useless. 

You can add it, simply a few grains of sand---then it is useless. Similarly, these rascaldom of commentary, a few grains of sand, we spoil Bhagavad-gītā.
>>> Ref. VedaBase =>Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.2.9–10--November 14th 1973,Delhi

-----Guru Maharaja, I just watched Śrīla Prabhupāda's SB lectures, so those who read the altered books have more or less a distorted and off-topic understanding of philosophy. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

PADA: Ajamila Dasa says -- PADA is making offenses to great preachers like Jayapataka. OK JPS is the ring leader of the book changes and child molesting Auschwitz for kids sampradaya. We cannot be -- for -- the same people we are against. That is why things are not getting done. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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RITVIK AND GBC ARE THE SAME?




PADA: Oh oh pilgrims. I just listened for awhile (you can get the English sub titles). He seems to be saying the ritviks (worshiping the pure devotee) and the non-ritviks (GBC's homosexual, pedophile and Auschwitz for kids messiahs club) are BOTH following the same process. So they should all get along. 

OK shastra says, the worship of pure devotees takes a person to Vaikuntha, while the worshipers of an illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's parampara, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas -- goes to patala loka, where people will be born as snakes and ants etc. I am not sure why people cannot understand that there is a difference between God, heaven, and Satan and hell? They are not contained in the same process. 

We should be happy within ourselves and promote our own organizations and not disturb the others. I am all for it. As soon as the GBC's banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and death threats process ends, we will have no need to protest or address them. 

We also do not protest the followers of many other bogus India gurus either, because they and their followers are not constantly attacking Vaishnavas. Their programs are more or less neutral to us and do not warrant us to consider their projects as a threat. But this seems to go on a lot with these India folks, worship of the pure devotee and the debauchee devotee sampradayas are one and the same. Nope! ys pd 

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Sajjana Maharaja





Respected Maharajas, Vaisnavas and Vaisnavis,

Please accept our humble pranam. All glories to Srila Gurudeva, Srila Prabhupada, and our illustrious guru-varga.

In accordance with Sripada Swami Bhaktivedanta Sajjana’s wishes and blessings, we are sharing this health update on his behalf.

Very recently, just over two weeks ago, Sripada Sajjana Mahārāja was diagnosed with advanced liver cancer. After a series of tests it became undeniably clear that he is nearing the final stage of his time in this world.

By the mercy of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva, Maharaja has resided in Sri Vraja-dhama for some years, and also by their mercy, he has decided to spend his remaining days in Vṛndāvana, taking the shelter of the Vrajavasis’ and Vrindavan-dhama’s affectionate embrace and preparing for his onward journey. His decision has been made with full awareness of his situation and with a deep determination.

He specifically asked for this news be shared with you all, but more than anything, he is asking for the sincere and affectionate prayers of the Vaiṣṇava community. He is deeply grateful for each and every prayer made and for the outpouring of love and concern from devotees.

At the same time, however, he is not in a condition to receive many messages or calls. Nor is he up to talking much or receiving many visitors at once and is asking if this could be coordinated and to keep the visits short – about ten minutes. We humbly request you to please honor his wishes in this regard and offer your prayers from where you are.

He humbly requests you to also pray that when the time comes, he leaves peacefully and consciously, in the shelter of the holy name and his beloved gurudevas and guru-varga. Maharaja offers his dandavat pranams to all the devotees worldwide.

This letter has been read to him before sending and he made a few adjustments.
We will continue to give updates.

Aspiring to serve Sri Guru and the Vaisnavas

Madhukar dasa
on behalf of
Sripada Sajjana Maharaja

PADA: OK the problem is, Narayan Maharaja has been promoting the GBC's guru varga of homosexuals, pedophiles, predators and deviants, and we at PADA do not think this is the real parampara. This devotee was originally initiated by Srila Prabhupada and he decided to help Narayan Maharaja promote Tamal's guru project. He said he was meeting Narayan Maharaja in 1997, that is when we were reporting a MASS child abuse epidemic -- and suicides of victims -- found in Tamal's program. 

That was not a good time to join forces with Tamal's top cheer leader. That being said, I wish him well. And yeah, another case of CANCER in the Vaishnava community. My Mormon nurse friend says the Hare Krishnas have a CANCER EPIDEMIC going on, and -- she is correct. 

She thinks it is mainly a lot of mental stress and anxiety poisoning people's system, creating a toxic environment. Well yup. Meanwhile she is a vegetarian herself. And she says the statistics on other Mormon vegetarians is, they are not suffering much cancer. Why is that? ys pd  

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UKRAINE UPDATE

PADA: Oh oh pilgrims. Russia is starting big forest fires in Ukraine and then shooting at the fire fighters, so the fires will grow. We already knew that Russia considers old grandmothers playing Bingo as a severe national security threat, so they have had to reduce the grandmothers and their cities to rubble to get rid of all these dangerous old cat ladies playing Bingo! Very dangerous threat to Russia! Watch out, one of these old ladies might smack a Russian soldier with a frying pan if they are allowed to live! 

Now Russia has found an even more dangerous security threat: forests, trees, squirrels, forest flowers, forest vegetation, and the billions and trillions of insects living in the forest! Very dangerous creatures! At any moment might take over Moscow! Must all be burnt alive and KILLED forthwith! 

Umm, trees, birds and squirrels are a national security threat? Wowsers, these people have no regard for other living entities. Kill em all! And how is that going to convince the world you are a superior race of religious people? It is making you look cruel, foolish, and no small amount of heartless for intentional killing of innocent creatures. 

Sorry, killing all the forests and all its dwellers is not going to win your war, but it is going to give you guys trillions of years of collective bad karma. Sorry, I am one of those persons who tries to save even a spider, just like one who was making a web on my window. I had to catch him and let him go outside. Burning up all the forest dwellers is simply unconscionable. ys pd 
 

Highest grade military target! Baby's apartment destroyed!
We are ready to attack those babies before they reach Moscow!
Oh yeah, mothers holding babies, another national security threat!
And now, trees, birds and squirrels are the newest threat!
Must be burnt to ashes!
OK, but even a dog knows these things are not threats?  

ys pd