Bangalore Court Case Update 07 25 24

Dayaram Dasa: Hare Krishna.

Dear devotees

Dandavats. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

MPD Bangalore case was heard by the Supreme Court on Thursday, 18 July, for 3 hours and today again for 3 hours. The Judges were in a hurry to close the hearing and our Senior Counsel, Sri. Krishnan Venugopal had to literally beg to grant him a few minutes to complete the points he was arguing on.

He couldn't argue for more than 30% of the points we had prepared for him to argue on. MPD's lawyer also was pushed to complete his arguments and I would presume that he also couldn't argue all the points he wanted to make.

Now the court has given 2 weeks' time to both sides to file Written Submissions of not more than 15 pages. And after that, the judgment will be passed. Kindly continue to pray and chant Narasimha Mantra at least 108 times everyday with sankalpa for complete victory.

Hare Krishna

Your servant
Dayaram Dasa

PADA: It is amazing that Dayaram wrote to tell me he agrees with PADA -- the GBC has been promoting homosexuals and pedophiles as its "Vishnupada" "good as God" acharyas. And yet self evidently, he still believes it is important to spend millions of dollars to establish that homosexuals and pedophiles are sometimes links in Krishna's guru parampara, and we need to surrender to the program that does that. 

As for Madhu Pandit's writing a 15 page summary of his case, PADA could summarize the the whole thing in a few sentences, at most -- one paragraph, i.e. homosexuals and pedophiles are not, were not, and could not have been, Krishna's guru successors, i.e. Jesus-like messiahs, as the ISKCON GBC has promoted since 1978. Nor should homosexuals and pedophiles be buried in samadhis in the dham etc. Any questions? Yeah, a media person asked me, "what is pedophile samadhi"? I dunno? Maybe we should ask the Supreme Court?

And thus if anyone, including this court, finds that illicit sex with men, women and children is to be established as part of "Krishna's eternal guru parampara," and as Jesus-like messiahs, we will have to expose anyone, including this court, as supporting deviations in the name of God and guru. Or, as Sulochana would say, anyone who supports the GBC is "a boot licker of the butt buggers." 

And that explains evidently why they -- don't and won't -- sue PADA either, heh heh heh, they cannot defeat this argument. And they never will defeat this -- because it is an eternal and absolute fact, deviants cannot EVER be linked to Krishna and His pure guru parampara chain. This is sinful and wrong, and will take the participants to hell in a hand basket. OK and looking at Jayapataka, it looks like he is almost there. 

Meanwhile another devotee was telling me how this is all like -- the Mahabharata -- all over again. Draupadi is AGAIN being insulted, by the Basu Ghosh / Bhakti Vikas swami / India ICC folks etc. -- and in this case Draupadi is de facto represented as ISKCON. And ISKCON / Draupadi is being linked to an illicit sex with men, women and children guru cult, which mass abuses children, even beats and rapes children, and bankrupts ISKCON, and murders dissenters etc. and so now we have to see who -- if anyone -- is willing to defend Draupadi from being insulted, discredited and assaulted by the Basu Ghosh pedo pooja program -- in her hour of need? 

And if no one comes to her defense, then all the parties who allowed her to be insulted and assaulted will have to pay the price of being compromised direct or de facto, and as enablers of the disrobing, attacking and assaulting of -- Draupadi -- aka same as ISKCON. Yeah, makes sense to me also. Anyway, let us see what happens. But India allows all sorts of deviants to pose as gurus, swamis, avatars, Durga's expansions, like Radhe Ma and who knows what else, and so the courts there are not very reliable on figuring all this out. If anything the courts of India are the last place to go if you want to distinguish asuras from the suras. 

And Madhu Pandit has not done a good enough job to make it clear enough in my opinion, so the courts can decide properly. He needs to take the gloves off and quit spending millions of dollars on these Hindu hodge podge compromisers in the India courts, evidently they have no clear idea what is the absolute truth. 

And for that matter, at least self evidently, they do not have the common sense us mlecchas have, i.e. homosexual and pedophile acharya / messiah clubs, which ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas, and cause mass raping of little kids etc., and are what Sulochana says are "a butt bugger messiah's club" are not fit to even enter the court room, get them out, bailiff -- have them removed and arrested forthwith. And they will all be arrested forthwith in the courts of Yamaraja eventually. And in Yamaraja's court they can answer Sulochana's point, "what is pedo pooja"? ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com 

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Prabhu there is no end to back and forth discussion on here. I didn’t send previous messages to everyone. I just commented on my opinion and if you don’t like then go on doing the way you are doing. After all you are individual soul and so as I and we both have our Karma. I simply suggest what should have been nice things to do. Other Vaishnav may like to respond if they wish what was wrong in my suggestion. Anyway let’s stop here and we will discuss in our next EC meeting. Hare Krishna

Devakinandan das.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 8:40.AM, Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) <

Basu.Ghosh.ACBSP@pamho.net> wrote:

Home Base: ISKCON Baroda

Camp: Newark, Delaware, USA

Dear Devakinandan Prabhu,

Namonamaha. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

Received your message:

Hare Krishna! I don’t want to get in between two of you Mahatma but it’s not what you do but how you do. We should have discuss this important matter in EC and EC combine should have send request letter to each DC chairmans privately to collect the dues. That would have been better. I also got call from my zone where some of TPs are unhappy that their temple name has been brought publicly on DC forum without discussing with them or knowing their pains and problem. Dayaram Prabhu said and you by passed the other EC members and send this letter. I strongly object of this. We know Dayaram prabhu is working very hard and we support him but he is also a member of Bureau .

Look at GBC communications, all the letters come with whole GBC EC not one person. So I my humble opinion you are taking law in your hand which is disturbing many devotees. So let’s discuss in our up coming EC meeting and there after go after we decide together. Hare Krishna

Devakinandan das.

You are appealing for this discussion to be limited to the Bureau EC members, and I appreciate your outlook. However, just consider that you have expresed your opinion to all India devotees, who are receivers of this. Why didn't you yourself follow your own advice and take this discussion to another forum? Since you did not do so, it must be answered here. If the aim is that there should not be conflict among devotees, fine. But that's not the feeling I am getting from your letter.

What you ought to be doing as a Bureau member and a zonal oversight authority is to work to obtain compliance from the centers in your areas that are overdue in their payments towards the Bureau's mandatory B'lore court case fees. Am I somehow mistaken in writing this?

What wrong have I done here to warrant a letter like the one you wrote, accusing me of "taking the law in your own hands"? Sounds to me more like the Hindi expression where the law authories are being chasised for doing their job!

"Disturbing many devotees". For what? Because I wrote them -- and made no threats (if I have done so, prove it!) -- and told them that "there are no excuses and no exemptions" for paying their dues for the court case. Writing that is "taking the law in your own hands" and "disturing many devotees"? How so?

If this is the logic, then kindly bring a proposal in the Bureau to reverse this "unfair taxation", and propose that we should abolish the Court case fees, and let whoever wants raise the funds to pay the lakhs of rupees fees charged by India's top lawyers! I have nothing to do with how the legal system works in India (and worldwide) where top lawyers charge massive fees that both sides in this dispute have been paying. We all know this.

No, instead of supporting this effort to get those temples who are not paying their dues to do so, you are belitting the effort that has brought in over Rs. 30 lakhs dues for the court case.

This is regrettable.

If you and a few others are "hot under the collar" because of this effort to get the temples to comply with the Bureau mandated policy, what can be done?

It is truely a thankless task!

dasanudas,

Basu Ghosh Das

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WhatsApp: +91-94260-54308

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 5:00.AM, Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) <Basu.Ghosh.ACBSP@pamho.net> wrote:

Home Base: ISKCON Baroda
Camp: Newark, Delaware, USA

Dear Bhakti Vinoda Maharaj,

Yatibhyhonamaha. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

Received your message:

I am quite disturbed that you have picked on me specifically to make a rudely frontal attack, publicly, as your first step , without bothering to talk to me first and learn or address this to the Bureau body/ EC. Such an ad hominem attack , routed on purpose to the entire ISKCON leadership etc. is unwarranted and in very bad taste and is focused on maligning and calumny to say the least.

Maharaj, I can understand that you are upset. So be it. It seems that doing one's duty is a thankless task! Let the fact be known that you are falsely accusing me of attacking you personally. Maybe before you employed the latin words "ad hominem" you would have looked up it's meaning:

ad hominem: adjective (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining: vicious ad hominem attacks. This is not the case here whatsoever. No where in my letter did I attack your character!

My letter was respectful and therein I explained that the reason for adding all India leaders to the letter was to send a message: the message is clear that there are no excuses and no exemptions from paying the dues for the Bangalore Court case fees mandated by the Bureau.

It appears is that you are angry because you do not wish to comply with the Bureau resolution directing all temples to contribute to the Bangalore Court case fund? Maybe I am wrong, but that is my impression from reading what you wrote.

Further you have also accused me of slandering you by employing a synonym for the word "slander", i.e. "calumny".

Again the dictionary definition: calumny noun (plural calumnies) the making of false and defamatory statements about someone in order to damage their reputation; slander: a bitter struggle marked by calumny and litigation.

Kindly point out where in my letter I wrote "a false and derogatory statement"?

No, I did not stoop to accuse you of anything that was false, nor did I attack your character. I was advised by Dayaram Prabhu (as I wrote in the letter you have responded to) that you are claiming an exemption from paying the dues for ISKCON Coimbatore, and yes, you are not the only one doing so - and I "called you out" (challenged you to pay the Coimbatore dues) - on that and that alone.

My letter had nothing to say about your character, but yes, by claiming an exemption you are not setting the right example. Sure. I am forced to answer this in this forum, reluctantly though, to clarify myself. This is Part one of my response.

Excuse me if I will have to wash some dirty laundry which I cannot avoid doing. I dont know what the SIDC Chairman conveyed to you, Dayaram Pr / Basu Ghosh Pr . But here is the history and my reasons, also for the knowledge of all concerned, as to why I 'protested' about something, by not paying the fees, so that I could call for attention. 

FORMULA FOR CALCULATING FEE STRUCTURE. 1. Many years back I asked for the formulae used for assessing the payments to be done by each temple or centre, in the Bureau meetings. It was hushed down as not very important. After several such attempts finally I was given a note by the all India accountant. In my conversation with him he did give some formal explanation but it was not
satisfactory and did not answer my questions fully.

I pursued it further in other meetings and finally a committee was formed consisting of HH BPPS , Bhaktarupa Pr and others due to my insistence. When I made endeavours to have this meeting it was shot down in an email by Basu Ghosh Pr (Who was then the GS ) that such a committee should not function and was redundant. In other words he stopped it. It was strange, and I heard it was an independent decision he had taken without consulting the EC. 

It was frustrating to me as a trustee who was trying to ask questions and set right things as many others have repeatedly asked questions like : Why do we have to pay this? HOw is this calculated? How long will these cases take as its already 20 + years old etc. I had no answers.

Hmm. I was elected as GS just a month ago, so maybe you meant to type someone else's name? Because, in the past, I was never the GS!

I was quite frustrated and mentioned that I shall not pay the fees till the fee structure is discussed and amended accordingly as it was unfair especially on small centres and those doing projects. No one bothered much. The apathy was appalling . Everyone was busy getting their things done and there was no policy it seemed. For instance, some centres or entities like the TOVP were exempted from paying the BLR legal fees.....Why?

2. I asked why TOVP is exempted from paying fees and I was told because they are in the project construction stage and they had applied for exemption and I could also do so. I first informed the two GBC zonal secs asking for support and they said they were helpless and I need to ask the Bureau or some such lacklustre answer. The Bureau flatly denied or at least Basu Ghosh Dasa took it upon himself to do so. In other words it was not encouraging at all. No one knew what was happening or was pretending so... I lost my enthusiasm and thought it was necessary to call for attention by refusing to pay the fees. Hence my stand.

I am not against paying the fees.

Then kindly pay them!

I am against biased treatment of centres, suppressing information from trustees, and the methodology for calculating the fee. At least the committee should have operated and come back to the main body with findings.

3. Let me add humbly that, under the insistence of H H Jayapataka Swami Maharaj, and the Bureau, I represented the Bureau in the Bangalore lower court, the High Court and then in the Supreme Court against Arun Jaitley who was hired by MPD. It was two years of work day and night until I was asked to step out, as Dayaram Pr was taking over .... I did so . This is for your kind information. I am not new to understanding the legal side of this case . I did a major sacrifice of my time and energy although I was packed with travelling and preaching then along with inaugurating the Coimbatore centre, with the Prime Minister Vajpayee visiting the place.

PADA: Wow, I am working day and night to establish pedo pooja, that homosexuals and pedophiles are sometimes links in Krishna's guru parampara. All that -- so we can help along the program to ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas. And because that way we can also cause an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic among the society's children, as we have done. 

And now we are upset we did not get enough cases of that surgery, and people like PADA made it harder for us to be the cheer leaders of our pedo pooja / butt buster's messiah's program which we wanted to establish as "God's successors." I am working hard day and night -- as the hand maiden of the butt buggery messiah's club? Pedo pooja ki jaya sir! Jeepers, then they wonder why the Bay Area ex-kulis boycott ISKCON?

I desire victory for Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON Mumbai, in this fight, as I have been in it at one time and I know what it means. I sympathise with the devotees working on this. I am willing to do anything needed when asked. But I am unable to tolerate anymore being shut down on my enquiries, played around with, by suppressing information and given a condescending treatment by an old boys club in the Bureau. 

PADA: Wow, I am a defender of anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's clubs, but I don't get answers to my enquiries? OK, what is an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic guru parampara -- is the first question, isn't it? Amazing, I am working hard as the boot licker of the butt bugger's guru sampradaya, and I am not getting proper credit! Well you will, wait till Yamaraja gets a hold of you pedo pooja-ites and your anal reconstructive surgery epidemic sampradaya pals!

Hence, again, my stand.

I hope all of you will understand this in the spirit of doing things right in ISKCON India. I can explain this matter in more detail, in person to anyone who wants . You can call me . It's been a great endeavour for me to write this and I feel this could have been avoided and time saved. 

I request the EC of the Bureau to do the needful in addressing this and examining the action of BGD in his capacity as the GS. YS Bhakti Vinoda Swami

Trustee, Zonal Secretary - west TN & Kerala

PADA: Yep, all Madhu Pandit has to do is say -- we can expose your homosexual and pedophile "Vishnupada" pedo pooja guru program in Kerala -- and have you run out of town on a rail, and they would be ... and that is a fact.  

Maharaj, the fact is that you do not wish to pay the fees, while most of the other centers are doing so. Prove me wrong by paying the dues for ISKCON Coimbatore!
For your kind information the ToVP is NOT - NOT - NOT exempt from paying their share. Rather Mayapur CFO Akshay Ramachandra Prabhu confirmed that the ToVP is amalgamated into Mayapur's accounts, and he just made the payment -- due my efforts (that you are protesting vehemently in your letter and with false charges of attacking your character and slandering you).

PADA: Oh great, the TOVP, Mayapur, the citadel headquarters of their anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's programs!

Mayapur has just paid more than Rs. 20 lakhs that was due! I'm sending you separately the calculation of the court case fees for Mayapur that will show you how the calculation for all centers is being made by Mohan Govinda Prabhu of the Bureau office, (who is also the Chief Accountant at ISKCON Tirupati).

There is no secret here. The formula is the same for all temples. The total
collection of the temples is calculated and then the total expenses of the temples are calculated. Thereafter the total expenses are divided by the total collection to arrive at the proportion of the fees that are sanctioned annually by Bureau vote.

To conclude, what you have written is no excuse for ISKCON Coimbatore, or any other center of ISKCON in India for not paying their dues for the court case that yes, you personally handled, before doing so was handed over to Dayaram Prabhu so many years ago -- at least 15, if not more?! 

All loyal devotees of ISKCON share the hopes that ISKCON registered at Bombay during 1971 will "win" the case! We are all part of one team. 

PADA: Well that makes it simple for Yamaraja, we are all one giant homosexual and pedophile messiah's club team, and our messiahs engage in illicit sex with men, women and children, and anyone who objects will be banned, sued, beat up, or worse.

And all of the [homosexual pedophile messiah's club] members of the team are expected to contribute to that effort.

Yudhistir Govinda Prabhu, in his capacity as SIDC Chairman has been cooperating in this effort that I initiated to collect the dues for the court case just a couple of days back in response to Dayaram Prabhu's request to the members of the NBMC (New Bureau members committee - that you are a member of), and he has reported that a number of temples from the SIDC have paid due to his efforts.

He reported the following via WhatsApp:

[7/22/24, 3:11:59 AM] Yudhisthir Govinda Das:
Secunderabad - 1,24,500

Madurai - 1.12.700
Hosur - 5500
Karwar - 10,400
Tirunelveli has paid Rs. 60,100
15,700 sent from Periyakulam

Sri Rangam has paid
Trichy paid today as well.

Similarly NIDC Chairman Sundar Gopal Prabhu has been following up with NIDC temples, and his efforts have borne fruits! As mentioned earlier, ISKCON Kanpur paid Rs. 5 lakhs, and they have promised to pay the balance Rs. 6+ lakhs after Janmashtami. Some of the other temples are Gurugram, Aligarh, Ghaziabad and Bareilly. There are still outstanding amounts from a number of NIDC temples, and we will be following up with them.

WIDC temples are mostly paid up. Only the Mira Road temple owes a lot, the rest are small temples, and they all should pay their dues. In EIDC, Mayapur was the largest outstanding amount, and that has been paid in full. Bhubaneshwar and Patna have large amounts pending. 

In conclusion, I do not feel that an apology to you is in order, as I am "not guilty" of the charges you made, herein above. I have nothing against you and no "axe to grind". My efforts are to send the message to all temples in India who are working under the Bureau to pay their dues, nothing more, nothing less. The reason I added all the leaders is that you told the SIDC Chairman, who reported to Dayaram Prabhu, that you did not want to pay the dues for ISKCON Coimbatore.

So please, kindly consider that you -- and all of us -- are duty bound to pay the dues. To my mind, what you have written herein above does not justify not paying the dues. So please, have a rethink, introspect, and "do the right thing" and arrange for ISKCON Coimbatore's dues be paid to the Bureau office!

Thanks in advance for doing so!
Hare Krishna!
Hope this meets you well.

dasanudas,
Basu Ghosh Das
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WhatsApp: +91-94260-54308

PADA: Do the right thing and help us promote our illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's pedo pooja club! It won't matter one iota if the GBC wins this court case, because more and more people believe their homosexual and pedophile guru parampara is evil and Satanic, and that process is increasing daily no matter what. ys pd

Kamala Harris' India Roots / Jadurani Health Crisis 07 23 24

 As Harris campaigns for US presidency, people in her mother’s native India are proud of her achievements (yahoo.com)

PADA: Different devotees send me adverts for their side of the politics world. I always hope for the best, for the USA's sake, and thus for my children's sake, but expect probably not the best is going to happen. I just don't see much positive going on in the politics of the USA, or much anywhere else around the planet either. 

Rather, it looks like the overall society is deteriorating. But hey, it is Kali Yuga, we just did not think Kali age would progress as fast as it is. I dunno, it is a mess all over -- in the weather, the pollution, the wars, the diseases, the crime waves, the back biting, the corruption, the egos of the leaders, the gun epidemic, and did I forget to mention -- the Kali-ized mess that is called ISKCON? 

Alas! I should not lament, that is my sentimentalism problem. What Krishna makes or allows to happen, is what happens. Full stop period. We cannot expect a smooth ride in our ten foot row boat -- on 45 foot waves -- in the middle of a typhoon. 

That being said, I hope Kamala does well if she becomes our leader, or anyone else becomes our leader. But it looks like an uphill push for whoever it is. It is interesting that she has some connections to India, but I am not sure how much that will impact things, if at all. Anyway I like the Kamala name, it reminds me of the song -- you are a teeny drop of water on a Kamala or lotus flower, and you will slip off at any second, you are not in a secure place anywhere in the material world. 

At the same time, we are gaining more Prabhupadanugas, so there is a little bit of relief on the horizon. ys pd  

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https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-syamarani-didis-wellness-recovery?

Dandavat Pranams dear friends and family, god brothers and sisters, well wishers of all types!

All glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga...

We are writing here to share some updates about our beloved Srimati Syamarani Didi's health. This is a fundraiser to facilitate her having a 3 week immersion at a wellness retreat center to help her recover from many months of exhaustive service.

As most of you are aware, Srimati Syamarani Didi has suffered from poor health since her teenage years. With her unrelenting attachment to serving her spiritual masters and her unwavering commitment to Vaishnava sadacar, it is common for her health to take a dip after we host a preacher or have a festival.

This summer we actually had a festival every week for 8 weeks straight! From the beginning of May until the beginning of July, we served 10 sannyasi preachers in succession, sometimes with no gap in between!

While Didi generally can find a few days to rest, this merciful constant flow of sadhu sanga obligated her continued presence without any break. Additionally, by that level of open accessibility which she has maintained for decades, she's become a sought advisor for both spiritual challenges and exceptionally mundane problems for many devotees. Her compassion has compelled her to always lovingly support even when the mental and emotional toll was mounting.

Without a break, she has now come to the point of complete exhaustion. 10 days at the beach with only her Japa mala has yielded less results than previously achieved in only 2 days! This led to a paramount concern by her Sevaks and after discussion it was concluded that we must arrange a professional wellness sabbatical.

Given this decision, by the mercy of our Guru Varga we are located quite close to a nationally renowned facility - and the employee tour guide had even visited our center previously! Beginning on Guru Purnima, July 21st, she entered into a 3 week wellness recovery program at this facility. Vasanti Didi has been given carte blanche permission from the facility to coordinate prasadam in line with their prescribed diet and is residing there with her as well.

As you can imagine, this is not a cheap endeavor. Total expenses are looking to exceed $30,000 USD. While Didi had considerable savings from her art book and memoirs, she invested the vast majority into the preaching and temple efforts here in Miami.

Because of her natural humility, she's actually forbidden us from asking for any help. However, our love for her and our hankering to have her association for many more years does not allow us to accept this instruction, which is actually only a manifestation of her humble mood.

If she has touched your life in some significant way and it gives you great pleasure to see her around and healthy for decades to come please share this message with all devotees you know.

We accept that all Lakshmi is with Krsna and that Krsna is with Didi. Thank you for reading this and we appreciate the overwhelming shower of love, prayer, and donations in advance

Praying fervently to forever be engaged in visrambenah guru seva,

The SVA Seva Team

PADA: First of all, I like Jadurani personally and wish her well. She did a lot of service making art for Prabhupada's books. She also told me confidentially she has to take shelter of the Narayan Camp since she has no place in ISKCON. After all, she was physically assaulted at New Vrndavana and Los Angeles as well, by ISKCON temple thug ladies. 

As one devotee was telling me today, almost all the temple thugs were harassing if not beating up the people who were opposing the abuse program, so they were basically warriors for Satan.

Anyway, she is now with the Narayana group, but we don't think that he was a bona fide saint. Nor do we think she and the other leaders or sannyasis in their group should be acting as diksha gurus and taking karma etc. Nor do we think Narayana Maharaja's giving "rasika classes" to the Tamal gopi bhava club was a good idea, considering that we think Tamal is the Judas of ISKCON and not a fit candidate for gopis and rasika. 

OK so now she is where she is, and her health is not good. Unfortunately, most of the people who take karma end up with problems, whether ISKCON or Gaudiya Matha gurus. I don't think she should be promoting conditioned souls as gurus, and promoting them at her ashram etc. giving them her stamp of approval and authority.

All that being said, we wish her health to improve and we hold no grudges against her personally. She did try to arrange a meeting with me and Narayan Maharaja. I came all the way to their ashram, and she was shuttling back and forth trying to get me into the room. NM cancelled our 830 am, 1030 am, 230 pm, and at 530 pm Jadurani was actually crying -- telling me -- NM has left the property. She was very heart broken and disappointed over this. He did not want to see me, and so he never did, and she knew this was bad. 

Anyway, if people can help her out, that is fine with me. At some point I wish she would make a statement, NM is bogus and he supported the Judas of ISKCON and he was wrong, but hey, once people are stuck in their system, they sometimes cannot escape. 

Almost all of the GBC's gurus reported eventually having heavy mental and / or physical break downs, and it looks like, she is following in their footsteps. Yeah, she should take care of herself and not help a false society full with false gurus and / or their hand maidens and enablers. Getting her away from that system is a good idea actually. I hope she learns from all this.

ys pd angel108b!yahoo.com  

Bhaktavasya's Book / Jayatirtha 07 22 24

FROM HENRY DOKTORSKI:

Different Kind of Life: Bhaktavasya's Story: Devi Dasi, Bhaktavasya: 9798332766930: Amazon.com: Books

An excerpt from Bhaktavasya dd's excellent book:

Jayatirtha as Christ wasn't too much of a stretch for me at the time. For years in Iskcon it had been said in classes and amongst each other "If Jesus came back again, he would be a Hare Krishna" or that Jesus would take birth in the Hare Krishna movement. Prabhupad said that Jesus was a shaktavesh avatar, or a human being who is empowered by Krishna to deliver humanity.

PADA: We said that some of these GBC gurus had been direct or de facto creating the impression they are another Jesus, for example they are diksha gurus who can absorb sins, and we keep seeing references to that process repeatedly. So, while the GBC are like Jesus, the ritviks are bogus for making Prabhupada into another Jesus. OK they are replacing Prabhupada.

"He is the representative of Lord Chaitanya", from my recent LSD trip, was still fresh in my mind. I went to seek out the representative of God, who was sitting at the edge of the swimming pool, swishing his feet in the water. I told him about my LSD trip in Vancouver, mentioning that I'd had previous experience before coming to Iskcon. 

He seemed to come alive, nodding his appreciation of my enthusiastic retelling. I told him that I'd brought some 'sacrament' with me and asked if he would like to share it. He suggested we go to his room to ensure privacy.

PADA: Right, Jayatirtha was calling intoxicants "sacraments," even "Radha's feet dust," and he was telling people he is going to introduce the teachings of his original guru, Timothy Leary (LSD guru).   

His room was the only one that was carpeted, surrounded by partially stained glass windows. His sannyas danda stood in a corner; I had told him about my secret sannyas initiation so it would be like 2 sannyasis experimenting together; very serious, renounced, non-sexual. We split the blotter, sitting across from each other, separated by about a meter. Closing my eyes, I felt my body melt, the waves of sensual joy rushing through.

PADA: Sometimes LSD comes on a card or paper "blotter."

We both ended up on the floor, our bodies entwined around each other, spontaneously kissing each other's skin, neck, feet. Staying like that for what seemed like a long time, we each made an attempt to sit back up in a meditative position, swaying and bending until we magnetically were drawn back into the lovers embracing mode again. 

PADA: Yeah, sex, drugs, rock and roll, Timothy Leary and -- another Jesus. What could go wrong here?

He was whispering "I love you" and "You've come at last". Somewhere in my mind I felt a lazy sense of panic. “Gotta get out of this position. Is this Maya? We're supposed to be sannyasis.”

I started to crawl towards the door and the bathroom. I couldn't tell if I had to pee or was feeling orgasmic. He was apologizing, asking me to forgive him. I stretched my arm out towards him, inviting him back in for another hug. "It's okay. I just have to go to the bathroom." He took my hand, started to kiss it again and brush it up against his face, which seemed wet from sweat or tears. 

Too much emotion.

"You're not upset with me?" he wanted to know. More rushing, feelings of love, empathy. "No, I love you." I answered. Somehow I made it to the bathroom, with a strong urge to have a bath once I saw the tub. I did neither, pee or take a bath that is, laying up against the tub, my mind rushing as if in a drunken state.
After a while I could hear him out in the back yard, calling his followers together for the news. 

"Mother has come at last!" he said. I wanted to curl up in a ball and fall asleep on the bathroom floor but I knew I had to rise up and go outside to face the music. The emotions were too strong for me to sort out. A combination of fear, like a fear of heights, honour, as if I had suddenly been elevated to divine status and happiness that bordered on giddiness.

I mustered up the strength to get up off the floor, wet my face with water from the gushing tap at the sink, try to pee (do something normal). I felt like I was floating, surrounded by a brilliant aura of light, as I descended into the back yard.
The reactions of the followers were mixed; Navanita, back from his painting sales, looked elated, his hands pressed together in respect and awe. 

Nama looked bewildered, confused. Kev was watching Jayatirtha, cautiously, like a doctor observing a patient in a state of delerium. He disappeared into his hut when he saw me, saying something about 'consulting the I Ching about this'. 

I would soon find out that Jayatirtha and Kev consulted the I Ching several times a day, over any major and minor decisions. I followed him into the hut, wanting to escape from the spotlight and curious about what the Great Teacher had to say about this startling development. Being only vaguely familiar with the book of changes, I Ching, I didn't know whether it was the oracle or Kev who concluded I was ‘a wild card, could go either way' after the reading, which I was too stoned and too in love (I couldn't distinguish which it was) to take seriously.

Jayatirtha, who had followed me in, just smiled and filled his pipe with the holy benediction. Kev shook his head, eyeing me with suspicion. I had a vague impression that he might be feeling left out because he wasn't sacramented like Jayatirtha and me. As the day wore on, Jayatirtha said I should have a sannyasi name. He chanted some mantras, which I assumed were special sannyas initiation mantras, sprinkled a few drops of water on my head and pronounced my new name; Bhakti-hrdoye Tirtha. The meaning, he said, was 'one who has bhakti or love for Tirtha in her heart (hrdoye).

I felt a jolt go through me. "I know no-one but Krishna as my Lord.." (Sri Sikshastakam). Navanita was christened "Francis," after St. Francis of Assissi, with a similar sprinkling of water on the head. Kev and Nama had vanished, he into the bhajan kutir and she into the house to cook dinner. The name 'Francis' stuck, whereas mine got shortened to Bhakti. Mother Bhakti. As Jayatirtha and I stole a kiss beside a desire tree in the yard, he pronounced us spiritual husband and wife; Bhakti and Vijay Tirtha.

PADA: And Krishna "was a guru in our line" and so was Jayatirtha? Yikes pilgrims. ys pd 

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Lokanath Update / GBC Begs for Legal Funds 07 21 24

 Lokanatha should have been a registered sex offender ...

GBC BEGS FOR LEGAL MONEY

Akshay Ramachandra Prabhu, the CFO of ISKCON Mayapur, just informed me that
he has "paid in full" Rs. 20+ lakhs, for the B'lore Court case fees! If Mayapur can pay, every ISKCON center under the Bureau can pay. Simple logic. No exemptions. No excuses. (Mayapur owed the most! Rs. 20+ lakhs
is major amount!).

ISKCON Kanpur just deposited Rs. 5 lakh and have promised to pay the balance
of Rs. 6+ lakhs after Janmashtami. This is acceptable. But paying the fees is compulsory for all ISKCON India centers. Please comply. Thanks!

dasanudas,
Basu Ghosh Das

Home Base: ISKCON Baroda
Camp: Newark, Delaware, USA

Dear Bhakti Vinoda Maharaj,

Yatibhyonamaha. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

Dayaram Prabhu just reported to me that you are refusing to pay the fees for the Bangalore Court Case for ISKCON Coimbatore. He reported that you told SIDC Chairman Yudhishtir Govinda Prabhu that you are dealing with "X" number of court cases, so you don't feel the need to pay the fees. This is your excuse for not paying the fees, it seems.

The Excel Speadsheet chart compiled by the Bureau office team for the SIDC shows that ISKCON Coimbatore owes Rs. 4,95,600/- in fees for the past year. Fees are being assessed for ALL ISKCON temples in India according to the income of the individual temple. This was agreed to by the Bureau and was voted on and passed.

Maharaj, there are no exemptions given by the Bureau for paying these fees to any temple. Mayapur and Vrindavan are also assessed and are expected to pay the fees. There are many temples that have litigations pending and they are dealing with them. The Bureau has not given any of them exemptions towards paying the fees.

I do recall that during the pandemic, back during 2020 when there was a totaly lockdown, Mayapur was suffering a total collapse of income, and at that time the late Bhakti Charu Maharaj and other MEB members raised funds internationally to help Mayapur meet it's financial commitments.

On the other hand Dayaram Prabhu mentioned that ISKCON Coimbatore has some CRORES of Rupees in fixed deposits in the bank! Maharaj, in view of all of the above, and in view of the fact that you are a Bureau member, kindly consider that it is a duty and obligation -- what to speak of being "the need of the hour" -- that you arrange to pay this rather small amount of Rs. 4.95 lakhs, to clear the pending fee for the court case from ISKCON Coimbatore.

There is also the logic of "yad yad aacharati shreshtas". If you refuse to the pay the fees for ISKCON Coimbatore, others will themselves make excuses and claim exemption from paying the fees. Please do introspect and do the right thing and pay the fees at the earliest.

No temple is exempt from paying the fees. Kindly consider. Hope this meets you well. dasanudas, 

Basu Ghosh Das General Secretary ISKCON India Governing Council (Bureau)

Cc. to all ISKCON India leaders as a notice that they are ALL expected to pay their court case fees as assessed by the Bureau office team as per Bureau resolution. There are no exemptions. Further, this is a humble request to all of you to please pay promptly. Thanks for doing so. If you need to know how much you are expected to pay, then contact your respective DC Chairman and ask him to send you the Excel spreadsheet showing the amount due from the centers in your DC. The Excel spreadsheet was posted in the WIDC and NIDC email conferences, and by SIDC Chairman Yudhishtir Govinda Prabhu in the SIDC conference (he reported).


Facebook: Basu Ghosh Das
WhatsApp: +91-94260-54308

PADA: OK as soon as we had the GBC sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, including not feeding their school children properly, the GBC launched what is evidently a $20,000,000 lawsuit against the directors of Bangalore's Akshaya Patra -- a charity that feeds millions of children. And some of the GBC people said "we need to put the directors in jail." Oh great, you are being sued for not feeding children, so let us spend another $20M to make sure we can stop feeding even MORE children. 

It never ends with these folks. And Prahlad, HKC Jaipur and Kailasa ilk are infuriated we helped Bangalore with documents -- to help their case, which has left the GBC unable to make a win. All of these "let us keep children starving" folks stick together! I forgot, there was all sorts of other mistreatment going on, improper food was just the tip of the iceberg.

Yeah, they sent Bhakti Caru over here to collect for their lawsuits, and he ended up getting fatally sick and leaving his body. And he looked sort of bewildered, in anxiety, and even scared, in the last photos they took of him. Perhaps he was starting to realize that his promoting an illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club; that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas; is not a good plan. Like seriously, is there anything else they can do to further infuriate the Yamaduttas? And then some Bengalis were upset that they dragged his toxic body back there to pollute the holy dham.  

We only had Krishna's devotees banned, beaten, molested, sued and -- killed, what is the problem? OK the first problem is, Srila Prabhupada says Krishna will judge us by the way we treat His devotees. 

I got news for you guys, you are not going to win this issue by spending millions and millions in court. You have lost the hearts and minds of the Vaishnavas, and you cannot get them back for trillions and trillions of dollars worth of lawyers. The Vaishnavas are done with you guys. 

Someone from India chastised me --  I am like the Western Christians, who want to promote a pure devotee as the acharya. Well yep, just look at ISKCON, it is a ghost town. People here have no interest in worshiping a predator like Lokanath, or his enablers, and they NEVER WILL. So we either get on board with the plan to worship the pure devotee or ISKCON will continue to deteriorate into a Hindu hodge podge. Even Ravindra swarupa said that these new age programs are philosophical "ghoulash." Agreed. 

So I dunno what to say, the GBC keeps thinking that tossing buckets of cash at the feet of lawyers will give them credibility. It's not. It is just making them look more like politicians, businessmen, bullys and gangsters all the more. 

But this is good news, their legal funding process is having renegades quitting their payments. Maybe their laywers just want another $1,000,000 and Jayapataka was asking for funds just before they sent Bhakti Caru here. But is there $1,000,000 to help the gurukula victims, the elderly, the women collectors who gave tons of money and are now poor, to start cow farms and varnasrama? Well nope. 

Meanwhile there has been all sorts of rioting in Bangladesh, it is not going well for that place, and it is no wonder because of all these offenders going on there. The temples of India should BOYCOTT sending any more money to the GBC. Use that money to care for devotees and not lawyers. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

SF Rath Update / Kailasa Chandra / Henry Doktorski News 07 20 24

PEAS IN A PADA

San Francisco Ratha report: Mostly Hindus. Ex-kulis said -- there were only a few faces that they even recognized, mostly all new faces. ISKCON is gradually expelling most of the Western devotees and making ISKCON into a Hindu cultural hall program. My friends in Russia said -- they are doing the same things in Russia, making a Hindu congregation emphasis. ys pd 

KAILASA CHANDRA (The Vaisnava Foundation):  

The Vaishnava Foundation: The Real Explanation, Hare Krishna, Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada, Krsna

PADA: OK Kailasa keeps saying he has been Sulochana's best helper, but he keeps citing the May 28th tape -- that Sulochana says -- is bogus and spliced. Kailasa says the tape proves -- we can make a "regular guru," whatever that is. But Srila Prabhupada never told us that he was going to implement regular diksha gurus or any other diksha gurus -- even according to the May tape. "When I order," but no order is given anywhere. Nor can Kailasa tell us who this alleged regular guru is, it is a bluff. 

Meanwhile Sulochana says that Kailasa's idea that conditioned souls (Madhyam) i.e. still conditioned devotees -- can become diksha gurus -- is "like finding a dog manure in your sweet rice," and oddly Kailasa keeps insisting that Sulochana wanted to add dog manures to our sweet rice. There is no evidence Sulochana ever says -- conditioned souls -- could or should -- become diksha gurus -- he never wrote that anywhere. No wonder then -- the GBC has been circulating the writings of Kailasa in 1990, we need to make MORE and MORE conditioned souls into gurus. Not!  

Meanwhile, in 1986 Kailasa and his minions joined the New Vrndavana / Bhakti pedo people making complaints about me and Sulochana -- that we are "drinking beer, watching TV, and we are sahajiyas." OK, so if we approach any average Joe six pack folks walking down the street -- and tell them: -- children are in danger from a bogus guru who is a predator of young men; and this bogus guru is also prone to having oral sex with young males; and this guru is also creating a mass molesting webs and nests program; and dissenters are in danger of being offed; the Joe six pack's type people never say "so what, the safety of children is not important, the dissenters are the real important problem, because they are drinking beer and watching tv." Ummm, beer and tv are more important than Krishna's children? Who knew!

Meanwhile -- many -- if not most -- if not almost all -- of the former New Vrndavana / Kirtanananda / Bhakti pedo pada folks have APOLOGIZED to us for discrediting our work. They admit that their calling us sahajiyas created a dangerous situation for the children victims, and for us whistle blowers, and for the entire ISKCON society at large. Mass child mistreatment is not only an important issue, it is basically -- the most important issue -- out of all others. A society that oppresses, alienates and sabotages its own children -- will not continue as a society.

Sulochana himself many times commented that they (the Bhakti pedos and Kailasa ilk folks) are calling us drunks and sahajiyas to DISCREDIT US and MAKE US TARGETS. Well duh, we were targets, thanks to their propaganda. And children's victimization was not addressed properly, if we could say it ever has been addressed properly in ISKCON to date. 

Fast forward to 2024, and Kailasa is still repeating his hero authority -- Kirtanananda / Bhakti pedo pada -- that me and Sulochana have been beer drinking sahajiyas, and we are also scum, liars, cheaters etc. Same problem we have had with Sanat (Steve Voith), Mukunda (Mark Whitely), Prahlad das (Paul Coats), HKC Jaipur (Dayalu Nitia), Mathura Pati etc. folks -- well yeah, our gurus are having oral sex with young men in the motorhome, but Puranjan is the real problem -- he is drinking beer, hence --beer is the problem, not our oral sex guru's program, and their mass child abuse process! Beer ki jaya sir! Of course there is no evidence I have been drinking beer, at all? Actually, I just don't like the taste even, can't stand it. 

OK that is why Sulochana calls these people -- "boot lickers for the b*tt buggers," "the followers of the oral sex with men guru sampradaya" and etc. They never understood what any average Joe six pack ALREADY understands, and thus no one else --except these clowns -- even cares if the person reporting mass child mistreatment is drinking beer -- or not. Who cares! That is because the average Joe six pack understands -- children are MUCH more important than beer.

Of course, Sulochana was himself also puzzled. He said, we are discussing their "males having oral sex with other males guru program," which is mistreating maybe thousands of children, and all these people want to talk about is -- beer, tv, sahajiyas and worse ... the gopis? Wow, that means only us bogus gopis know that their oral sex guru program is bogus, they don't even get it! Hee hee! 

It is rather amazing that guys like Kailasa / Prahlad das / Mathura Pati are not happy that only us bogus gopis are out there protesting the oral sex gurus and mass molesting program -- because we are --- bogus gopis? Sulochana said, even a dog does not worship pedophiles as its gurus. They are of course very, very, very concerned about the welfare of -- beer and tv!  

Anyway, we are sorry to report that Kailasa chandra and others are stuck in the Bhakti pedo camp since 1986, and they just cannot seem to get out, when almost cent percent of all the others from that camp -- decamped -- and left. And subsequently, many of them apologized for supporting that regime, and citing their slogans. Anyway, it is what it is. Lots of ISKCON people have been more interested in beer and tv, discrediting whistle blowers, and enabling mass child abuse regimes, than in helping the welfare of children, and the general public has pretty much ALREADY figured that out as well. Unfortunately, that is the history and hopefully we will present that in the upcoming Monkey on a Stick movie.

The good news is that the Kailasa people blocked me, they have no explanation for their citing Bhakti pedo pada for most of their adult life. And worse, Sulochana's mom said they are still discrediting her son -- because they are gloating over having him taken out, and they want to discredit his writings. Even she is onto these folks. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

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FROM HENRY DOKTORSKI

I just received a letter from a reader who just received a copy of "Eleven Naked Emperors" in his mail. He opened the book at random and recognized people he once knew, as he had lived through that crazy time some 45 years ago when the eleven zonal acharyas succeeded Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada as leaders of ISKCON. Some of you might be interested in what he has to say; I was certainly fascinated by many of the details of the history which he brought to life. Following is the letter:

Hare Krishna! I just arrived home from two months in India. Your book "Eleven Naked Emperors" was waiting for me. I opened it and the first page I saw was about Hansadutta being seduced. You mention the name of Nadia as the girl. I am pretty sure it was Nada dd, original name Nadine. She died in Florida earlier this year.

Back in 1976-1980 era she was the biggest money collector in the world. She had some mystic power to enchant a man and get him to melt in seconds. She was not a Ms Universe beauty, but she had was cute, short, and had the innocense of a child in the demanor. She once came into Caru Das's office in Berkeley and told him, "I want you to know that I am always thinking of sex." Caru was scared.
She had a daughter with Hansadutta's disciple Rahugana, who is now Ram Das, a disciple of the late BP Puri Maharaja and is the owner of the book publishing empire based in San Rafael, Ca. 

He is the primary source of funding for BB Bodayan Swami who became the acarya of the Gopinatha Goudiya Math when his guru left. Nada organized the publishing the the coffee table KRSNA ART BOOK. Her daughter originally Padma, is now Jaqui Goff. She is on FB and is quite friendly.

It looks like I will through enjoy this book, "Eleven Naked Emperors," as I was a witness and knew most or all the people personally at one time. Especially Hansadutta!

Feel free to share my letter on Facebook. These memories are crystal clear for me. I actually spotted Nada the first Sunday she walked in the front door in Berkeley for the feast. Something in my heart whispered to me that she was special. I went to Jiva das who had the woman's party. He met her and talked. A couple of weeks later she moved in. When Hansadutta came in 1978 he awarded sanyass to Jiva. Can you imagine going from having sex with a houseful of 36 girls to sanyass overnight? When he was gone the girls worked directly under Hansadutta. They'd go to Reno and Vegas and return with a chest full of silver dollars. Nada was the super star. Should could collect $1000 in two or three hours.

One day she came to Hansadutta and told him she wanted to marry Nrsimha Caitanya Das. He'd been a brahmacari for about 8 years. Very simple and humble young man. I appreciated him immensely. Hansadutta told Nada that Nrsimha was a brahmacari for many years and didn't seem interested in marriage.

Nada had decided and she started dying Pooja to Nrsimha's Sankirtan Van daily while praying he'd be her husband. Then one day Nrsimha came to Hansadutta and said he wanted to marry! They did marry for a short time. By that time my relationship with Hansadutta and Iskcon was over.

I met Nrsimha some years later in Vrindavan during Kartik. All he could tell me was how she had destroyed his mind. He really never recovered psychologically.
He died in Vrindavan a couple of years ago. I met him in Puri a year or so before he died. I took him to my friend Professor Gopal Kar, former Head of the mental health department at SCB Medical College and Hospital. He was prescribed medicines, but he wasn't able to follow the doctor's plan. Mahadevi in Vrindavan tried hard to help him. She's from Dharmatma's old party.

Anyway after Nrsimha Nada seduced Hansadutta and then married Rahugana. After they were separated I lost track of her until I found out about her death in Alachua from her daughter.

Bhakta dasa, ACBSP
William Benedict
Samut Prakarn, Thailand

ISKCON Corruption / New People Decide Guru? / Divorce 07 18 24

PADA: First of all, what is common in most sampradyas is that the seniors, elders and leaders promote the person they believe is the acharya. They don't start a peanut and shell game with various conditioned souls acharyas and then have "the new people" decide who among the GBC's hand selected and "2/3 show if hands" elected gurus is the acharya, as has been done in ISKCON since 1978. We elders should decide who is our guru and then tell the new people who that is, and not have the new people tell us who they think it is -- which is called mental speculation. 

Srila Prabhupada never said that the new people should decide who is qualified to be a guru, he wanted us seniors and elders to make that clear, and then present that to the new people. The newcomers also did not decide to make these false gurus in actuality, since the leaders of ISKCON misguided them by having them select from among their maybe 100 gurus -- that the GBC hand selected and elected. 

And they elected often highly conditioned beings as their gurus, not the new people. The good news is that our Prabhupadanuga process is growing nicely, with us training more "new people" to offer their bhogha to Srila Prabhupada, and not conditioned souls, and etc. The whole idea that conditioned souls can be "2/3 show of hands voted into the parampara" -- by other conditioned souls -- is not bona fide. Conditioned souls elected and voted in other conditioned souls as gurus after 1936, and Srila Prabhupada said this is not authorized. 

A bona fide disciple cannot emerge from a process where he is forced to select from voted in conditioned souls as his guru. The GBC also kicks out any people who worship the bona fide acharya Srila Prabhupada, but the good news is that they seem to have lost their $20,000,000 lawsuit trying to remove the Prabhupadanugas in India. 

So the whole idea that the new people coming to Berkeley should select either Gopal Krishna or Vaisesika or others from their group as their guru, and not Srila Prabhupada, is why these temples are now largely empty ghost towns. And thus the Prabhupadanugas had to make their own seperate program here and be independent of ISKCON, because they are not welcome as soon as they announce they are going to worship the bona fide acharya. As long as ISKCON removes anyone who worships the bona fide acharya, it will continue to be a ghost town, and we will keep making progress by helping independent programs. ys pd

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Yogesvara: So here's a practical problem. People would be interested to know our position on divorce. Here in Rome they just passed a divorce law.
Prabhupada: That is also animalism. Just like a dog having sex intercourse with another female dog, and another, another, another. It is also animalism. So that is your decision. They are animals, and different way they are coming to be naked animal, that's all. The divorce is also dog's business. Dog is having sex intercourse with this female dog and another, another, another, another. It is animalism, that's all.
Yogesvara: But people are objecting, that "If we cannot get divorced, then we are forced to live with each other even if we hate each other."
Prabhupada: But hate each other, that's all right. We say what is the use of your sexual intercourse? That is animalism. You avoid it. Our Vedic civilization is to avoid it. Therefore they remain brahmacari, naisthika-brahmacari, no sexual intercourse in the whole life. That is perfection.
Yogesvara: But that's not possible for the mass of people.
Prabhupada: No, why not possible? We have got so many. Just like Sukadeva Gosvami: he remained completely brahmacari, although naked he is, even he is. He doesn't require, and neither he is agitated. Just like when he was passing, the girls were taking bath. They did not take care, because they knew that he is not at all affected by any woman. And when his father was going, they covered. So father inquired, Vyasadeva, a personality like Vyasadeva, said, "Why you covered? I am old man, and my young son, he was passing naked." They said that "He is paramahamsa. He has no agitation of the mind. But you are grhastha. You live with woman. You have got distinction, man and woman." So this is civilization. What is the use of sex life? It is simply entanglement. Therefore, at the last stage, one is supposed to become sannyasi. What is sannyasi? Vanaprastha, sannyasi, brahmacari -- no sex life. Out of the three..., four different status of life, the brahmacari has no sex life, the vanaprastha has no sex life, the sannyasi has no sex life. Only the grhastha. That means it is prohibitory. It is allowed -- it is a simply concession to the person who cannot remain without sex life. It is simply a concession. Otherwise, according to Vedic civilization, there is no need of sex life. Because it is entanglement, simply entanglement. Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham kanduyanena karayor iva duhkha-duhkham [SB 7.9.45].
Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome

Mahananda (Alachua) Writes Wrongs 07 16 24

Mahananda (Alachua): I was having a discussion on a thread and someone asked me what did I mean by another path. They were referring to another path to following in disciplic succession. I would like to post my answer here to see what others might think. "Yes, thank you, Prabhu. Really, I was just thinking of one other path, the natural one. We will discuss that one after the other two. 

First, let's talk a little about the temporary system of Ritvik. Before agreeing and adopting that philosophy, one has to take into consideration all of the teachings about the requirement for developing a guru-disciple relationship and have the intelligence to understand all the teachings of our beloved Srila Prabhupada and his spiritual master pertaining to this issue. 

PADA: Pretty amazing that most of these GBC sympathizers keep saying worshiping the pure devotee is a temporary platform, and that has lead to people worshiping all sorts of deviations. And they keep insisting that worship of pure devotees is only temporary "based on shastra." But there is no such thing as saying that worship of pure devotees is temporary -- found in shastra. They made this up, so they could introduce their real agenda -- worship of deviants.  

And after considering everything, then we may or may not come to the natural conclusion that this idea of taking initiation from Srila Prabhupada 500 years from now just doesn't work. 

PADA: Yeah, we are not going to worship the eternal 500 years from now because the eternal time factor stops by then, hee hee. Of course whom else or what else will we be worshiping in 500 years, they cannot say, as long as it is not going to be Prabhupada -- anyone else will do, including their deviant pals. Yeah you can worship anyone, as long as it is not Prabhupada!

Sorry, eternal time is not going to stop in 500 years, or at any time in the future. To say that the worship of the eternal stops in 500 years means they have a mundane idea of the eternal beings, the eternal is temporary, that means they have a mundane idea of God and guru. Well in 500 years we won't need to worship the eternal anymore, we will concoct something else. No problem, you already concocted it now.

To explain why it does not work by bringing up everything that our guru and grand guru have said about it would take excessive explaining and quoting, and for you to understand me it would require that you already know many of these things.

PADA: OK in other words he has no explanation, nor can he find any. But "you already know that eternal beings are mundane and temporary." Hee hee.

That, we can call the first path, taking ritvik initiation from a pure devotee who has left his body and has no choice in the matter. The second choice would be to take initiation from someone who is, let's face it, perhaps not capable of raising you up to the level of pure love of God. In the Nectar of Devotion it is stated that these gurus can only take you up to the level that they have reached. 

Those who lack the intelligence to understand this, let them go ahead and get initiated from them. They will make some progress. At least they will understand more convincingly that "life is about placing your love in all the wrong places".

PADA: OK we cannot worship the eternal guru, so we should worship the temporary and mundane guru, perhaps one who is falling, so we can learn that is bogus. So really, Mahananda does not want us to worship anyone, pure or not pure, he is saying all worship is bogus. Of course we have to listen to him, he is now our authority.   

Next, I am convinced that we cannot accept either of these paths and instead we shall be patient and know that sooner or later most assuredly a genuine self-illuminated unalloyed pure soul shall appear before us after following to completion the many levels of sadhana bhakti. 

PADA: OK we should perform sadhana bhakti by not worshiping a pure devotee, or worshiping a conditioned devotee, thus we should worship no one and nothing and that is sadhana bhakti. Wow, worship nothing and no one is sadhana bhakti! Who knew! These guys are straight up mayavadas.

That is a very rare soul, but in the meantime, we can simply read, chant, pray, follow devotional service and develop our spiritual lives in many different ways and trust that Krsna in in the background arranging everything. 

PADA: We should read about the eternal -- by reading the temporary books of the temporary guru, which discusses the temporary God? Or WTF? Why would anyone want to base their eternal spiritual life on reading the temporary books of a temporary guru, which means the VEDIC books are full of mundane temporary information and not eternal truths? Mahananda is basically telling people they are wasting their time trying to approach Krishna, because the paths are temporary or contaminated. Of course to say that the Vedas and the gurus of the Vedas are mundane temporary beings -- is also called pasandi vada, atheism and etc.

Prabhu, it is a struggle to write this and get my ideas in order. But admittedly, I am just trying to repeat what I have understood from Srila Prabhupada in an honest way, hoping in the long run to please Lord Krsna and his beloved representative. With a desire for eventual humility, Mahananda Das"

PADA: Well yeah, we are going to please Prabhupada by telling people you are wasting your time worshiping a temporary person like the acharya. This is incidently how folks like Mahananda have got everyone offering bhogha to conditioned souls, which someone just told me, has made them extremely sick. They have constant migraines, they think they might be dying, and they think -- it is the temple food being offered to a deviant that caused that to happen. I said, yeah, you are probably onto something. 

PADA: OK so now Mahananda has blocked our comments since he cannot explain how his eternal guru is a mundane temporary phantasm. Of course Mahananda's wife Hladini drank the same "our guru is a mundane temporary man" kool aid and took sannyasa from an actual divine man in their estimation, a pedophile named Kirtanananda. 

And then she went to Africa and Bhakti Tirtha sent her into a war zone, and she was taken out violently by war gangs. These guys do not know that the guru is eternal and Mahananda is not protecting people from these bogus ideas, and the malefic results of these bogus ideas, and he is creating a lot of suffering by misguiding innocent people. Hladini was taking in the same kool aid idea as Mahananda, worship of the eternal is mundane and temporary, and so she supported the worship of actually temporary gurus -- i.e. sexual predators and deviants, and he could not save her from that deviation, because he is with that deviation. 

Anyway! Yes, Srila Prabhupada never said that worshiping a pure devotee is temporary. Temporary means it is a material idea. The idea that we should worship conditioned souls is what is temporary, and it is also failing. Big time. 

How many people still worship Hansadutta, Ramesvara, Bhagavan, Jayatirtha, Bhavananda etc.? I dunno, around here maybe you could find two somewhere -- if you are lucky, but I don't know of any. I also know quite a few people who threw their photos into the trash, and cursed them for cheating them. 

So that is what is temporary, and meanwhile more people are placing Prabhupada's photo on their altars, because that is an eternal principle. There is no such thing as worshiping Krishna and His pure devotees temporarily, that is a material idea. Mahananda says worship of pure devotees is temporary, because he sees pure devotees as temporary material beings. Srila Prabhupada said he will live forever in his vani, and he is, but he is only doing that for spiritual people and not material ones. ys pd

BM: Hare Krisna Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisances ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA. Thank you very much for this comment Prabhu.

To Mahananda: Where did Prabhupada say that worship of him would be temporary, when he made his murtis, his books, his photos on the altars, in his temples, and then he said "do not change anything." I do not see where he EVER said ANY of this was to be changed, nor have you shown any evidence he did say that. If this is supposed to be temporary, where is that stated? And if it is temporary, what did he say would replace it? You said this is temporary, and I simply repeated what you said. If you want to block me, that is fine, but that is not Vaishnava etiquette. 

You should show us chapter and verse where he said this is temporary, and then we can go from there. Anyway, keep reading your mundane books by your mundane guru and worship your mundane God, and you will be in a worse condition than the average Christian, at least they know, the guru is eternal. You are not even at the kindergarten class level yet. 

And offering bhogha to your mundane gurus is making people sick, and that is also causing a cancer epidemic, and you are part responsible for that epidemic by telling them there is no value in worshiping a mundane temporary -- pure devotee. You are the mundane and temporary person, and you think pure devotees are just like you, because you think you are equal to them. 

You aren't. Wake up. A devotee just said, Mahananda is a classic case of the kitten who thought he was a tiger, and he got into trouble when he tried to take out the big German shepherd dog. Yeah he is a mundane man, and so is the acharya, but -- he is a kitten and not a tiger. Hee hee. This devotee also said, anyone who thinks gurus are mundane men are going to the lowest planets, ummm -- yep! 

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Mother Hladini

She was a kind and sincere person but was: sent to the wolves. Another person Mahananda thinks: Had to learn (the hard way) who not to love. Nope, we should teach them BEFORE they have to learn: the hard way. That is our duty to Krishna, and to them. And to Srila Prabhupada! Let them learn the hard way, is --diabolical and cruel, and this means -- these people have not learned anything! And worse, they are still telling people to go to the wolves and "learn whom not to love -- the hard way." Sheesh pilgrims! ys pd 

Toronto ISKCON and Mayur's Departure / HKM Movie 7 15 24

Prabhavishnu swami arrested by the KGB in Russia? I don't know, this is all I got, we have to verify this, but it is possible since some Krishna gurus have supported Ukraine, and that is a no no in Russia. ys pd

Visvakarma: This is Mayur prabhu a devotee from Iskcon Toronto. He came to Hamilton many years ago to help us on skp yes. He was very sincere. It came to pass that he fell into disagreements with the so called fake diksa guru in Toronto Bhaktimarga.

Because of his dissenting he was kicked out of the Toronto temple by the authorities in the middle of a cold winter night and froze to death on the park bench next to the temple.

The police did investigate the death and were told this prabhu was crazy. The police believed the temple authorities. Not true he was far from that!
This is a criminal case of involuntary manslaughter and should be opened by the Toronto police for further review. This prabhu and his death are another cover by the Iskcon Toronto leadership group and they should be held accountable for his tragic death.

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India's "God men" problems .... hmmm, no wonder the GBC sets up its main camp in India, home of the bogus God men, where they can easily blend in. ys pd

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/12/india/india-godmen-crowd-crush-bhole-baba-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

PADA: You can click on the "CC" to get English captions. ys pd 

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A devotee business. 

These folks make very nice devotional music.