Indradyumna and Mukunda Maharaja / Harikesh / Iran 08 12 26

 

ISKCON GOA / Bangalore Branch 

MUKUNDA MAHARAJA

PADA: The problem with Mukunda Maharaja is that, yes -- he was one of the original disciples. Therefore he knew better than any of the rest of us that Tamal, Harikesha, Bhagavan, Bhavananda, Hansadutta, Jayatirtha, Mott Street boy Kirtanananda etc., are not qualified to be worshiped as Krishna's and Srila Prabhupada's successors. He also knew that Srila Prabhupada had regularly complained about his leaders incompetence, if not sometime defiant, unruly, fallen behavior etc. and repeatedly.  

Mukunda knew these leadership guys were constantly struggling with their own spiritual lives -- if not doubts about Krishna's and Prabhupada's words. Satsvarupa for examples says -- "I have to battle constantly with doubts that Krishna is a myth." Fine acharya material here!  

In sum, these leaders were constantly falling into one problem after the next the whole time from the 1960s until 1977. How could some of them, 11 of them, or any of them, be fit to be worshiped as Krishna's successors and Srila Prabhupada's direct or de facto replacements as the parampara's acharyas? And then have their own Vyasasana seats, guru pranam mantras, photos on the altars, guru daksine financials and so on. 

Sorry, Mukunda and others knew better than the rest of us -- these conditioned soul GBC leaders are a heap of falling down trouble makers -- and Srila Prabhupada was making constant complaints about their lack of leadership and even following the basic program. "The problem is that the GBC are not following." 

After 1977, according to Mukunda's secretary Nandini, many complaints about abuses (including child abuse) were being sent into Mukunda's "ISKCON World Review" newsletter, and reportedly -- he just tossed the complaint letters into the trash telling Nandini "I have a career to protect." Satsvarupa was also famous for tossing out complaint letters and hiding out at Howard Johnson Motels so he would not have to deal with all "the troubles." 

SDG said reading complaint letters gives him a headache, so he has to avoid reading them. OK the abuses were then pretty much unchecked, as there was no reliable checks and balance process to contain them. Satsvarupa and Mukunda were supposed to be some of the main watch dog people containing these problems. But then these foxes were the persons guarding the hen house?

Mukunda was also designated by the GBC to act as the liaison between the GBC and me and Sulochana, and he sided with the GBC's view that me and Sulochana are "making severe offenses to a great devotee" (Kirtanananda swami) who was having oral sex with boys in his motorhome. And so Mukunda's party excommunicated us and made us targets, and we were targets, and Sulochana was assassinated as a result. Meanwhile thousands of children were reportedly victims of abuse in Mukunda's program's "gurukulas." 

After Sulochana's murder then Mukunda (and Ramesvara, Bhagavan and others) suddenly disappeared and waltzed off stage. Mukunda, Devamrita etc. ended up going to Australia, where they became big leaders over there, as no one knew about their role in covering up all the crimes here and supporting the homosexual and pedophile gurus like Kirtanananda. So Mukunda exploited the fresh batch of victims into thinking he is a great saint. Australia has had all sorts of reports of abuses and troubles all by itself however, so the same type problems just went on over there. 

As for Indradyunma, he was Bhagavan's hatchet man when all the devotees were being kicked out. There was a big collection of his photos of little girls and women in bikinis on his web site, which disappeared after we complained. He is another person who has covered up for and supported the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. 

In any case, it looks like Mukunda is suffering a lot from his brain surgery etc. so he is on his way out. He will be remembered as a co-founder father of his illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's program; which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas. And he will be held responsible for co-creating that process in the court of Yamaraja. The good news is they will no longer have to battle constantly with doubts about a higher being, they will know for certain there is a higher power and they are now going to His prison.  

Mukunda clearly tossed me and Sulochana under the bus knowing we could be taken out, and Sulochana was taken out -- and I almost was. Just for his role in helping destroy this one life, he will have to be punished severely by the Yamaduttas and he will be. No one is allowed to co-orchestrate the murder of a Vaishnava without facing severe reactions. 

Never mind the entire reason Sulochana had to be taken out was to defend Mukunda's homosexual and pedophile guru system, which is tossing children under the bus wholesale. All of this will be taken into account for his future life. I don't wish him well or unwell personally, but we all know what happens to people who make a program that harms Vaishnavas, it does not end well. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

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HARIKESH DEVIATIONS UNFORGIVABLE

RD DASA:

In the autumn of 1998, I joined the movement of Srila Prabhupada, and almost immediately I came to Moscow, to the temple on Begovaya Street, to meet the followers of this teaching. It turned out that at that moment, amazing events were taking place in Russia, and in particular on Begovaya Street.

A bit of background. Harikesa Swami (one of the zonal acharyas, or, according to another version, one of those who was supposed to become a ritvik — a representative of Srila Prabhupada) preached very powerfully in Russia until 1998; his disciples distributed Prabhupada’s books by the trainload. Thousands of people came to believe that Srila Prabhupada’s teaching was true and capable of leading anyone out of the cycle of birth and death — by remembering themselves as an immortal soul.

At some point in his life, Vishnupad stopped being fit for his position, and, as they say in Russian, “Ostap got carried away.” He started saying that Srila Prabhupada was wrong on many issues, that not all of Prabhupada’s statements were true, and that nowadays it was every man for himself. At the same time, he embezzled a huge sum of money, and, taking a certain lady by the arm, he left for Saint‑Tropez to stroll along the Côte d’Azur in white trousers. As the saying goes: “Time for work, time for play.”

After such statements and actions, many Vaishnavas (not only Harikesa’s disciples, but also many others) lost faith in Srila Prabhupada — some left for Gaudiya Math, or for other sampradayas, or for Shaivites. What is truly unpleasant is that he thereby tore away the faith in Krishna from so many newly made Krishna people, and they stopped practicing. After they lost faith in the Krishna religion, they had now a negative idea of Krishna.  

There was a temple in almost every city in Russia, or Sunday programs were held — and all of this emptied out in an instant. And then a program of mass stealing / marauding / looting began; everyone grabbed whatever they could from the temples — money, buildings, cars. The movement descended into criminal anarchy.

When I arrived at Begovaya to meet Prabhupada’s followers, I was stunned by what I saw and heard. My conviction in the truth of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings allowed me to stay with those who wanted to continue practicing Krishna consciousness under Prabhupada’s guidance.

Some time later, it turned out that Harikesha had moved to Alachua (Florida), was interacting with Vaishnavas, was enjoying prasadam, and seemed to be doing japa. I’ll express my subjective opinion.

He should come to Russia first, visit every city, and ask forgiveness from all the devotees he betrayed, and even from those who joined after his antics. Find everyone who suffered as a result of his actions, knock on their door — and ask for forgiveness. Then leave for Alachua and never set foot in Russia again.
Because the ratio of people he led to the feet of Srila Prabhupada and those who left Prabhupada’s feet is clearly not in his favor.

JM: Another GBC leader who destroys people's lives and then walks off like there is no problem. And steals money from the people he destroyed ... as he walks out the door, double destroying and hurting his victims even worse. Bhagavan and others have done the same. They cheat people that they are gurus, then steal their own disciple's money when they leave, pouring vinegar into the cut. 

They think ??? they are immune from karma, because they do not believe in Krishna's existing. They can act whimsical ... there are no consequence. They are more or less atheist. Or !!! worse than atheists, spiritual cheaters and misleaders and rogues posing as saints. NOTE: they always have the same smirky joke know it all smile. 

We stole from you and ruined your life, so what? Big joke on you? They do not believe in Krishna or His laws. Under Prabhupada so many came to Krishna, under them so many left Krishna. And most of those who left ... no longer even like Krishna. They make people hate Krishna because they hate Krishna. They made thousands of people suffer. Their suffering is just around the corner. No one is allowed to make others suffer like this! Especially devotees of Krishna. That is not to be forgiven by us or Lord Yamaraja.  

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IRAN

PADA: It looks like our forever and ever wars over there are taking a toll on our USA military guys. That is pretty sad, because what if they are needed somewhere else. We told them a few days, then weeks, then months, and now it is looking like a few years, or maybe more. Iran said they are not opening up until 2029 unless we sign their deal. 

That is a long time for us to just sit there blocking the movement of ships. I think that the Bush / Cheney regime was correct, the only way to fix Iran is with 1,000,000 boots on the ground and for several years. 

Just whacking them here and there from the air is not working in Iran, Gaza, Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon etc. That has not worked because a ground clean up is always needed. I don't think MAGA has the support for a two year long ground clean up invasion, which is going to be messy, costly and deadly by all accounts. OK it looks like Iran has the upper hand presently. Just parking ships there forever isn't going to make any big change.

ys pd 

TEXAS REPORTER NEWS

US NAVY IN TROUBLE 

SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG ABOARD THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Families of sailors aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln are sounding the alarm about exhaustion, deteriorating morale and sailors reaching a breaking point. Multiple sailors have reportedly attempted to go overboard during the carrier’s extended deployment. One sailor’s wife says her husband is now on medical hold after trying to jump from the ship. Another family member says her husband stopped a fellow sailor from going overboard.

The Lincoln has now been deployed for more than eight months and has spent roughly 250 consecutive days at sea, including 40 days of continuous combat operations. The deployment was originally expected to end in May, but there is still no publicly announced return date.

There are roughly 5,000 sailors and Marines aboard. Thousands of people with spouses, children, parents and other loved ones waiting for them at home. About 200 family members recently attended a meeting with Navy officials in San Diego. One spouse told officials that her husband had messaged her that very day saying he hoped he wouldn’t wake up the next morning.

Families have also raised concerns about food and supplies, broken toilets and laundry facilities, mildew and other living conditions aboard the carrier. The Navy has disputed some reports about conditions and says sailors have access to counselors, chaplains, doctors and other mental-health resources. Additional mental-health professionals are reportedly being sent to the ship.

The USS Theodore Roosevelt is being prepared to relieve the Lincoln, but officials have not publicly said exactly when that will happen. Whatever your politics, this shouldn’t be partisan. If sailors are so exhausted and distressed that people are trying to jump off an aircraft carrier, that is a flashing red warning light.

These men and women signed up to serve their country. That doesn’t mean their physical and mental well-being becomes expendable. Supporting the troops has to mean more than saying the words. Bring these sailors relief. Give their families answers. And take what they’re telling us seriously before another family gets the phone call they’re terrified of receiving.

Mahashakti / KK Dasa / Anonda / Don't Make Me Small / 08 11 26

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MAHASHAKTI DASA: Yes KD prabhu, Los Angeles ISKCON has very strict rules. As soon as you go to Mahashakti's "Prabhupada Festival" and announce Srila Prabhupada is your guru, they will most likely ban you, if not beat the living stuffing out of you, if not call the Police and have a legal restraining order placed on you to stay 500 yards from the temple. 

Yes, we know of our people who were served with legal restraining orders. On the other hand, if you announce you are a follower of Mayesvara's pal -- Jagat Acharya Srila HH Giriraja swami Maharaja -- the oral sex with female follower in the temple room messiah, you would probably be most welcomed. It is all about one simple rule or qualification that welcomes a person there: You have to be a loyalist to the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project. 

Yep! As soon as you announce your GBC guru who is in the GBC's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club, they will fall off their chairs and lick your shoes, and make you a flower garland welcome. You are a fellow member of their team. But all sorts of people tell PADA, the reason they hate the followers of Prabhupada is -- because they hate Srila Prabhupada. 

He is dead and gone -- so now they can jump all over visiting Hindus and shake them down for a $108 donation. Yeah, the ritviks are a disturbance to their Hindu's money shake down business -- and their illicit sex with men, women and children gurus from Vaikuntha tradition. 

And yeah, they are dangerous people. For example they had little teeny woman Jadurani beat up, and actually they wanted to kill her, and they will have anyone less than her beat up as well. No one is allowed to challenge their homosexual and pedophile messiah's club without facing removal, beatings and worse. 

Dangerous people fer sure. And a peril to children everywhere. Yup! Without their temple thugs goondas like Mahashakti, their whole pedophile messiah's program would collapse overnight. They depend on their attack dogs to keep us peons in line. You got it!

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com   

krishna1008: Mahashakti Dasa (Los Angeles Prabhupada Festival) 08 10 26

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KK DAS

STAY WITH SRILA PRABHUPADA:

Serve in separation. That's the bhava of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Vipralamba Bhava. Srila Prabhupada says Separation intensifies Love. Reflecting my current position, being labelled as 'Ritvik.' And temple authority warning people to be very careful of me when visiting ISKCON Temples and devotees. 

They want me to have the feeling of being rejected ... and the most dangerous part of this being .... rejected for simply for following Srila Prabhupada. This has been my motivation for the last 6 years while practicing practically alone ... chanting 16 rounds, Morning Program, Reading, Service at home of their Lordships.

I am longing for devotee association ... but following the right path earns a lot of thorns. Following the perfect Srila Prabhupada as the Bonafide Spiritual Master without any deviation is the right path no matter what. You need to have strong faith in Guru, Sadhu and Sastra and Sadhana to keep going. These people will try to knock you off the path, so serving in separation is better. 

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ANONDA DAS:

Looks like ISKCON Mayapur is criticizing Bangalore for following the Puri order for Rathayatra dates. So who is the genuine ISKCON, Bangalore or Mayapur?

Especially looking at the historical timeline of events. Remember one Sampradaya poisoned their Acharya Leader. Let alone the hundreds of irregularities since 1977.
Now on the verge on being partitioned between the Indian and Western GBC.

The ISKCON of Srila Prabhupada disbanded itself after the demise of the Acharya in 1977, as well as His major Book translations. You can`t buy any reprints of Srila Praphupada`s "As It Is" books through legitimate channels.

What is left now is a hodgepodge of broken sampradaya, voted in or self-appointed Gurus, dysfunctional Swamis, and temples running more like Hindu Cultural societies. On top of that most western temples are now empty, solely run by salaried Bengali Pujaris, hoping for migration pathways.

The successful ones are crowded by the Indian Diaspora, and running on Hindu finance and support. Since 1977, ISKCON still has not got the 33rd Acharya in the line of the GMV sampradaya.

Initiating Gurus are every now and then put on hold and banned from initiating because of their unmoral conducts. Mayapur Gurukula comes in mind, in the same way as Dallas Gurukula. Out of the around 150 Sanyasis and Gurus, almost a third has been suspended because of breaking the renounced way of lifestyle. 

Where are the 11 pioneering initial initiating Gurus of the 1980`s? They have mostly blooped and then most of their followers blooped with them. It was really a smash and grab con job, and then ... take the money and run, and they did. Srila Prabhupada said his preaching to the Hindus did not work because "they know everything already." And that is who is coming to ISKCON today, the know nothings know it alls.

"Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones".

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https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-arjuna-return-to-the-service-he-loves?

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"Don't Make Me Small" ~ Srila Prabhupada.

For anyone studying ISKCON history, the integrity of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original books, the principle of ārṣa-prayoga, or the ongoing debate about BBT International’s post-samādhi editing, there is no clearer example of the underlying problem than the quiet shift found in the Bhagavad-gītā As It Is. Two descriptions of Śrīla Prabhupāda — one from the original edition, one from the newer BBTI edition — reveal two completely different theologies. This is not merely linguistic preference. It is a redefinition of Prabhupāda’s authority, status, and position in the guru-paramparā.

Anyone familiar with the editing controversies surrounding the changed Gītā knows this issue is not about grammar. It is about revelation.

The Original Description: Śrīla Prabhupāda as a Divinely Empowered Ācārya
“HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPĀDA, the leading exponent of the science of Kṛṣṇa consciousness in the West and the world’s most distinguished teacher of Vedic religion and thought is the author of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Kṛṣṇa and many other versions of Vedic literature. He is a fully self-realized devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa and is the latest disciple in a succession that originally began with Kṛṣṇa Himself. He is the founder and spiritual master of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness which now has centers in major cities throughout the world.” (From the backcover of the original and authorized Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 1972-1977)

The original Bhagavad-gītā As It Is presents Śrīla Prabhupāda according to classical Vaiṣṇava siddhānta. Nothing is minimized. Nothing is secularized. His identity is stated as the tradition itself understands it:

• He is the leading exponent of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
• He is the most distinguished teacher of Vedic religion and thought.
• He is a fully self-realized devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa.
• He stands in an unbroken guru-paramparā beginning with Kṛṣṇa Himself.
• He is the founder and spiritual master of ISKCON.
• His writings are Vedic revelation — śabda-brahma — not ordinary literature.
• His authority is divine, not academic.

This description fits perfectly with Prabhupāda’s own statements and the strict understanding of ārṣa-prayoga: when an empowered ācārya speaks, the words are final. You do not alter them, interpret them “for modern audiences,” or adjust them posthumously. His authority derives from Kṛṣṇa — not from a publishing institution.

The New BBTI Description: From Divine Authority to Academic Respectability
“His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda was a teacher in the disciplic line from Kṛṣṇa (the speaker of the Gītā) and was an exemplar in bhakti-yoga, the yoga of devotional mysticism. His translation and com­mentary are guided by a lifetime of scholarship and enriched by the realizations of a mature practitioner.” (From the backcover of the posthumously edited Bhagavad-gita As It Is)

The revised description in the BBT International edition removes the transcendence. It removes the divine empowerment. It removes guru-paramparā. It removes the ontology of revelation. And it replaces them with the vocabulary of secular Religious Studies departments.

• Prabhupāda becomes a “teacher,” not an empowered master.
• His realizations become “experience” rather than self-realization.
• His authority becomes “scholarship” rather than śakti.
• His mission becomes “devotional mysticism” rather than a divine commission.
• His position in the disciplic succession is omitted altogether.
• His books are framed as scholarly works, not revealed scripture.
This is the language academics use to describe a respected religious figure. It is not the language used to describe a mahā-bhāgavata delivering Kṛṣṇa’s message unchanged.

The change is intentional, ideological, and foundational.

Why This Change Is a Philosophical Change — Not a Stylistic One

It may look like the back-cover text was simply “updated,” but the shift is far deeper. In Vaiṣṇava theology, the way an ācārya is described is not marketing — it is philosophy. Changing that description changes the conceptual foundations of revelation, authority, and paramparā.

Here is why the newer BBTI description constitutes a genuine philosophical shift:

• The original text affirms Prabhupāda as a self-realized, divinely empowered ācārya standing in a guru-paramparā beginning with Kṛṣṇa. This is core Vaiṣṇava siddhānta.
• The newer text removes all transcendental claims and replaces them with the vocabulary of academic religious studies: teacher, practitioner, exemplar, scholar. This reframing is ideological, not neutral.
• When divine empowerment is replaced by “scholarship,” the source of authority is relocated—from Kṛṣṇa and paramparā to human effort, experience, and education. That is a direct shift in epistemology.
• The original presentation makes Prabhupāda’s books śabda-brahma—untouchable, uneditable, preserved by ārṣa-prayoga.
• The new presentation makes his books appear to be religious literature written by a competent teacher—therefore open to “correction,” “improvement,” and posthumous editing.
• How you describe the guru governs how you treat his words. Reduce him from an empowered ācārya to a spiritual author, and the editorial boundaries disappear.
• Redefining Prabhupāda’s ontological position automatically redefines the ontological status of his books. This is the very heart of philosophy—not of style.
The shift from “empowered ācārya delivering divine revelation” to “scholarly teacher presenting devotional mysticism” is not cosmetic. It is a change in philosophy. 

And such disobedient philosophical changes form the groundwork for most of what the BBT International has done to Prabhupāda’s books since 1978.

Why the Shift Happened: The Institutional Motives Behind the New Description
These changes do not emerge from nowhere. They serve specific institutional incentives inside BBTI and the modern ISKCON structure. When you examine the newer description, the motives become obvious:

Secular respectability

Kṛṣṇa consciousness must appear “safe” to academics, journalists, and interfaith circles. Divine claims are removed. Authority is softened. The ācārya becomes an acceptable subject of Religious Studies rather than a representative of God.
Institutional flexibility

If Prabhupāda is framed as a scholar, then the institution replaces him as the ongoing authority. Once his transcendence is removed, reinterpretation and doctrinal adjustment become easy. Editorial intervention becomes normal.
Legal and social safety

Absolute guru claims make institutions nervous. Removing transcendence reduces risk — legal, social, and political.

Justifying textual alteration

If Prabhupāda is merely a scholar, editors become co-scholars. Posthumous editing becomes an “academic duty.” “Fixing,” “refining,” and “modernizing” the Gītā becomes justified.

Every one of these motives requires the same thing: a quiet lowering of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s divine identity.

The Weberian Pattern: How Institutions Tame Their Founders
Max Weber described exactly what happens after a charismatic spiritual founder departs. The patterns are precise:

• The founder is reinterpreted as a historical figure.
• Absolute authority is replaced by bureaucratic authority.
• Revelation becomes “tradition.”
• Radical spiritual demands are softened for institutional comfort.
• Doctrines are edited to fit new cultural expectations.
• The living spiritual fire becomes the institution’s heritage instead of its guiding force.
This is not speculation. This is exactly what unfolded in ISKCON after 1977 — and the rewritten Gītā description is one of the clearest examples.
How the New Description Enables Posthumous Editing
Once Prabhupāda is reframed as a respected “teacher” rather than a divinely empowered ācārya, everything changes:
• His books appear to be literature, rather than revelation.
• Literature can be edited, updated, and modernized.
• Editors become authoritative intermediaries.
• ārṣa-prayoga is discarded as outdated superstition.
• Post-samādhi editing is normalized.
• Authority shifts from the guru to the institution.
The new Gītā description is the theological justification for the changed Gītā — and for every other altered text.
The Consequence: Two Descriptions, Two Theologies
These two descriptions of Śrīla Prabhupāda represent two incompatible worldviews.
• The original description safeguards the purity of Prabhupāda’s teachings.
• The newer description prepares the ground for reinterpretation and revision.
• The original affirms revelation.
• The new one reduces revelation to scholarship.
• The original protects the guru-paramparā.
• The new one replaces it with institutional authority.
• The original makes posthumous editing unthinkable.
• The new one makes it inevitable.
This shift is not a detail. It is the philosophical foundation of the entire posthumous editing project.
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Srila Prabhupada said, "Don't make me small" to his personal secretary, Tamala Krishna Goswami, and the assembled Governing Body Commission (GBC) members.

This statement was recorded during a room conversation in Vrindavana, India on July 17, 1977. During this discussion, Srila Prabhupada was giving instructions regarding the future management of the society. He warned the leaders to maintain their current progress rather than over-expanding, specifically stating:"You tackle, GBC men. At least, don't make me Alexander the Great in my lifetime. They say, 'You are great, great, great.' 

But don't make me small while I am living... And people have recognized I am great. Don't make me small."

Srila Prabhupada explained that Alexander the Great expanded his empire rapidly, but because he couldn't manage what he conquered, he lost his previously held territories. Similarly, by excessive, unauthorized edits, the integrity of Srila Prabhupada's original books have become compromised, and can no longer be praised by scholars praises about the original books, because that praise is no longer applicable to the changed books, becuase those scholars NEVER read the books changed after Srila Prabhupada's departure. 

It is a form of cheating.

Whether the GBC, BBT Trustees / The BBTI Trustees or Editors will ever seriously consider any of these points is doubtful and remains to be seen. What are your thoughts? Has the post humous editing which Srila Prabhupada never authorized made Srila Prabhupada greater or smaller?

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REAL AIM OF ISKCON?

PADA: Making everyone a devotee is not the real objective of the GBC. The GBC removes us and our friends from the temples on an ongoing basis. The GBC spent $20,000,000 trying to remove the Bangalore devotees from their temple, so they can make it another ghost town. 

They lost that case and now they are spending another $20,000,000 to start another brand new $20M case all over again. The GBC calls the police on my friends, and made a legal restraining order on another friend just recently. They don't want us devotees on the premises, they want their ghost town scenario. And they will spend unlimited amounts of money getting rid of us. 

They want to encourage their Hindu congregation hall program nearly exclusively, and that means, we have to go. The Jayapataka people complained to me that my making lawsuits has cost ISKCON $100,000,000. That means, making ISKCON empty is a costly enterprise. As long as the GBC wants to banish the devotees, sue the devotees, legally restrain the devotees, call the police on the devotees, exile the devotees, and speak ill of these devotees to discourage them from participating, there won't be many devotees, because they don't want that. They are also spending millions suing us for printing original books. They do not want our book printing and distributing process. On the other hand, people who are getting oral s*x in the temple room from female followers like Giriraj swami, they are given Saudi Prince treatment in ISKCON, and are given the Vyasa seat recently to speak in the temple, because those are the people they want to keep, not us. Until this dynamic changes, all the rest is window dressing. ys pd

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Mahashakti Dasa (Los Angeles Prabhupada Festival) 08 10 26

Only crazy people read PADA!

OK there are lots of crazies out there!

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MAHASHAKTI DASA (Los Angeles)

Mahashakti dasa: 

SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer officer for the GBC's Auschwitz for kids project. Currently the leader of the Los Angeles "Prabhupada Festival" charade.  

PADA: OK this Mahashakti fellow is saying the ritvik idea -- of having priests promote the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada -- is completely crazy! Because! It has not ever been done before in Vaishnava culture. OK so worshiping pure devotees has never been done before in Vedic history. What has been done instead? 

I forgot, the GBC is promoting worshiping their conditioned souls as gurus -- who are often as not fallen -- and in various cases have been -- engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children. And that is what has been done in Vedic culture for eternal time immemorial in Krishna's guru lineage. PADA just never knew that! Our poor fund of knowledge! The guru is a person who has seen the truth, and the truth is, the guru will chase men, women and children for their lusty escapades! 

Rather oddly Mahashakti is proud of not being in animal life, but Sulochana said even dogs are not "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children. And that means these GBC folks are not advanced enough to worship a dog." Sulochana also said these people are not advanced enough to worship a bucket of dog manure, because dog manure will not ban, beat, molest and kill Vaishnavas. He said it will take them hundreds of lives to be advanced enough to worship a dog's poop. 

Yep the ritviks have the completely crazy idea that the acharyas must be pure devotees, and not -- homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, deviants, porno swamis etc. And Mahashakti says we cannot preach to the new people or we will contaminate them .... ummm, by telling them that deviants are not acharyas?

   
AD: Mahashakti's friend is Mayesvara, who has said before is "Prabhupada murti on his altar in the Ojai temple is a statue he keeps to solely remember the past and that Srila Prabhupada is dead and gone." Is Srila Prabhupada's murti, that we decorate and bow to every day just a dead and gone statue that we officially bow to? Is Mahashakti holding the Prabhupada Festival to worship a dead and gone idol?

Then, Mahashakti claims that the problem is sadhana, but if he has come to the conclusion that Prabhupada is just a dead statue, a token of the past, doesn't this point to lack of sadhana or that it's not ineffective? 

PADA: They made a big special Vyasa type seat for Auschwitz for kids camp leader Jayapataka at the "Prabhupada Festival" when I was there 1997. And many of the temple people were his disciples. And they have had JPS photo on the altar there when I was there and probably still do now. 

I think when people like Mahashakti refer to their living spiritual master -- they are making a reference to these people like Jayapataka. And when I was doing the lawsuit, Jayapataka was screaming and yelling at me on Watseka. Mayesvara? He was helping the GBC's lawyers as an advisor, OK they really could not stand PADA's ideas whatever! 

Also Patrikananda was on hand at the festival, telling me "You are using bad language and no one takes you seriously." Which is why he was crying about the $400,000,000 lawsuit, which is not a serious issue.  Ummm, $400M is not a serious problem? What is an actual problem for these jokers?

AD: There's no seat for Jayapataka Swami at the Prabhupada festival nowadays. His image is not allowed on the altar either. They have portable piece of marble, and the pujari disciple may put a small picture of JPS on it while they are offering artik and then it must be removed from the altar area. However, when they do have a big initiation festival for JPS in LA, in the last few years, it's a big event. Very flamboyant and it lasts maybe 3 days or more. 

He's much more important than Srila Prabhupada to ISKCON LA. That's a fact. But, JPS worship doesn't interfere with the Prabhupada Festival at least directly. 

PADA: Well my point is, when they say you need a living person, that person is JPS or maybe Hrdayananda, also the Los Angeles playboy acharya. JPS is the living person IMHO. Maybe for the Prabhupada festival JPS is placed on the back burner temporary basis, but all the rest of the time it is him and his disciples running things there. 

AD: I am only asking Mahashakti to define who the living guru is. He won't say. He's quiet. He has no answer. He knows no one is a self-realized soul, who's seeing Krsna. He's bluffing. It doesn't say anywhere in Srila Prabhupada's books that I am aware of, that the guru must be living. With a physical body.

He's basically admitting to atheism. He doesn't accept Srila Prabhupada's deity as Srila Prabhupada. He's bowing down to an idol, and he's running the Prabhupada Festival! Just going through the motions to increase cash flow. The money is obviously not there in the current Prabhupada Festival, so it's on to guru next.

PADA: Yes we often corner them by asking -- who is the living person, and nowadays, they are reluctant to answer because all their GBC guru options are bad. Even Mahanidhi swami said the GBC gurus are all bad, then he was having sex with a married woman who has grown kids ... they really flop when they have to name their alleged living person. Or sometimes they make a big deal of the  guru person who has supposedly rejected the GBC, and is a better option. But those guys end up looking compromised. 

AD: There only answer, as you have said many times is - no one. No one is your guru. Better to have no one, than to have Srila Prabhupada. 

PADA: Wow. Mahashakti is saying that the Bhagavad Gita idea of accepting a guru WHO HAS SEEN THE TRUTH applies to ISKCON. So when people are surrendering to the GBC's homosexual and pedophile messiahs project, that is what Krishna in the Gita refers to? Worse, he says the ritviks are spreading poison -- ummm -- because they are not promoting homosexuals and pedophiles etc. as Krishna's successors? 

It is amazing to me how so many devotees have told me that worshiping the GBC's pedophile guru lineage is what the Gita refers to. Then Mahashakti says that those of us absorbed in "the past" are still thinking of the zonal gurus era. OK except Jayapataka has been the Zonal guru of his Mayapur Zone the whole time because, they still have Zones? It is not a past deviation. 

Yup! The zonal guru program is not in the past. But the deviants of the original Zonal guru era are ALSO the SAME people who 2/3 show of hands voted in the next wave of CURRENT gurus. How can a homosexual and pedophile guru process vote in more gurus? OK! The 11 original gurus deviated and blooped, but then they voted in more gurus just before they blooped! 

I was heavily confronted once by Mula Prakriti Dasi (Gopa Vrndapal's wife) who said I was "trying to turn ISKCON into a Nuremburg Trial." Well yep, the people who orchestrated Auschwitz should be placed on trial, that is common sense. Or they will be on Nuremburg trial in Yamaraja's court later on, so better to hold one here. 

One of the children Mula was preaching to said, Mula Prakriti was telling us kids to take initiation from Satsvarupa, who was taking tranquilizing psychotropic drugs while he was stooping his therapist. She clearly has no idea who is Krishna's guru successor, and she MISLEAD us children away from worshiping Srila Prabhupada. So that is what these Mahashakti / Mula Prakriti folks are doing, misdirecting people's worship AWAY from the acharya. While Mahashakti is in charge of Prabhupada's festival?   

MAHASHAKTI DASA

Prabhupada's Books

Recently a devotee unfriended me on FB because I challenged his views on the origin of the jiva. He is a staunch fall-vadi, meaning he believes that the jiva originated and fell from Goloka Vrndavana. This devotee is well read and intellectual. He has written books and teaches other devotees the books of our spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada. 

His method is to educate according to what Srila Prabhupada has written and if there is a discrepancy, he tries to prove the discrepancy with novel ideas. He only refers to other Acharyas when necessary and does not use their writings to support his logical conclusions. 

While he accuses me of cherry picking Prabhupada's statements, he does the exact thing repeatedly. Fall-vadis believe that we are too fallen to understand the books and teachings of our previous Acharyas so we should exclusively stick to what Srila Prabhupada has written. 

If there is a discrepancy, they say, just learn to live with it and Krsna will give guidance. Fall-vadis feel they are true to Srila Prabhupada and others, such as the no-fall vadis, are pasandis or offenders.

To be a fall-vadi is sort of like wearing a badge of honor that says, " I am able to accept any discrepancies in Prabhupada's books." It is this rare ability they possess that allows them to turn off their rational mind and think irrationally. 

Acceptance of opposing statements by Srila Prabhupada does not require further inspection. When Prabhupada says that we were sporting with Krsna prior to entering the material world and then also says the conclusion is, no one falls from Vaikuntha, not even a leaf, the fall-vadis patch both statements together with dream logic, insinuating that we are currently still in Goloka in a dream state, dreaming we are in the material world. 

Nevermind neither Prabhupada says that or Lord Krsna or any other Acharya. The fall-vadis have given themselves a free pass to interpret the statements of Srila Prabhupada that best support opposing conclusions.

Let us for a moment imagine giving a Bhagavad Gita to someone and when asked about the origin of the soul, we say that the soul fell from Goloka. Now this individual goes home and reads the Bhagavad Gita As It Is and Lord Krsna never mentions anything about the soul originating in Goloka. In fact, Krsna says that having gone Back to Godhead, the soul does not return to this world of birth and death. So this individual is confused.

Similarly, all of our ISKCON devotees read Bhagavad Gita daily and they read the very same thing, that once having gone there, the pure devotees do not return. So how then could we have fallen from a place no one falls from?

When asked, our ISKCON authorities and teachers are duty bound to state that we did fall from Goloka and everything will be revealed one day if you just keep on chanting Hare Krsna. It is not necessary to read other Acharya's books to better understand this subject because Prabhupada has given us everything. 

Even though Srila Bhaktisiddhanta and Srila Bhaktivinode having differing views, devotees in ISKCON are taught that what Srila Prabhupada says is final. In this way, ISKCON devotees are purposely being indoctrinated into Gaudiya Vaishnava siddhanta differently than any other Vaishnava Organization.

I imagine there are many leaders who feel differently about this subject but can't publicly say anything. The problem is, the rank and file devotees are utterly confused by this discrepancy and it is causing great dissension.

Just as this one ex FB friend who unfriended me, if you do not accept the fall-vadi conclusion, a devotee may worry that he will be asked to leave ISKCON or not be allowed to speak in the Temple, etc. But it goes deeper. Must a loyal ISKCON member refrain from using his intelligence and depend fully on the GBC for guidance? 

PADA: Oh this is swell. The GBC guys are gurus, in personal touch with Krishna, as described in the Bhagavad Gita. Which means they are purely representing Krishna. But you would be very stupid and idiotic to depend on anything these GBC gurus have to say! 

Yeah you better use your independent intelligence and reject and TOSS OUT what our own gurus have to say! You must surrender to one of our gurus, but do not be such a stupid person as to listen to them! WTF?

And which Mahashakti "guru" said we do not fall from Vaikuntha? Narayan Maharaja, who was in Texas boosting Tamal when we were in Texas having Tamal sued for the mass child abuse. Why is Mahashakti citing Tamal's homosexual and pedophile guru lineage cheer leader, on any topic? 

But notice, he is arguing with himself: we must accept what these GBC gurus say -- and not accept what they say -- all at the same time. Then he makes pretend he wonders why people are confused? You must listen, you cannot listen, this is hypocrisy.  

MD: Is this how we are training our community of devotees to think?

If ISKCON does not teach it's members how to correctly deal with sastric discrepancies or misunderstandings, then the path of true and deeper understanding becomes halted. How then will they become Krsna Conscious? Krsna Consciousness, when properly understood, fosters a positive change in character. It naturally promotes fraternity, love and caring among it's members. 

PADA: You mean love and caring -- such as telling little children to worship homosexuals and pedophiles guru lineage as their messiahs? And become a member of the GBC's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic club? We are a caring people, so anyone who says Srila Prabhupada is correct that we originated in Vaikuntha is bogus, which means, Srila Prabhupada is bogus. And we will ban you from ISKCON for citing Srila Prabhupada!

MD: Selfless service to God and others is the natural outcome. How many times have we heard that devotees can be callous, cold or impersonal? This is a result of spiritual unfulfillment. We should want our members to become Krsna Conscious and that requires the correct understanding of the sastra.

ISKCON should be leading the world in devotional relationships. Instead, we see quasi spiritual groups taking the lead and it is painful to see. We are the only group in the world who promotes exclusive devotion to Lord Krsna. We are properly situated. If only we could truly appreciate what we have. 

We need to go beyond the kanistha adhikara stage to at least the madhyam or second class stage. A second class devotee actually knows the sastra. His faith is unbreakable because he has no doubts. The words of Lord Krsna are as clear as day. There are no discrepancies. Srila Prabhupada did not intend for there to be any discrepancies in his books. I believe some of his followers created all of the confusion. Let's correct those misunderstandings.

Hare Krsna!

PADA: Well yep, when we were in Mayapur some devotees cried to Srila Prabhupada that the Gaudiya Math God Brother people are complaining that Srila Prabhupada's "Back to Godhead" is bogus because we never were with Godhead. And so Srila Prabhupada is bogus. 

Srila Prabhupada told us, my God brothers do not know we were all once with Krishna because THEY ARE TINGED WITH MAYAVADA. So in addition to promoting the GBC's pedophile messiahs project, it looks like Mahashakti is a full on another Gaudiya Matha mayavada preacher. 

As one newer devotee asked PADA recently, why are these falling down acharya people who have mayavada ideas the only people allowed to preach in ISKCON? Why isn't PADA allowed to preach there? Well I think the reasons are self evident, it is corrupt, it is a pedophile messiah's project, it has mayavada undertones and etc. But yeah, Mahashakti does not even know what "Back to Godhead" means, never mind more intricate siddhanta.

And ISKCON has these mega heavy duty temple thug bouncers like Mahashakti who will heavy you out the door for objecting to all their nonsense. OK yeah, it looks like it is a violent pedophile guru cult, as some have suggested. No wonder most of the people coming to ISKCON nowadays are spaced out Hindus who often eat meat and worship Vivekananda. And Mayesvara's pal Giriraj was getting oral s*x service in the temple from a female disciples, so they sent him to India to fool the Hindus over there that he is a pure devotee. 

There are a bunch of Hindus working the local Gas Station here, and they are always frying chickens, making beef and salami sandwiches, and who knows what else. They are not good candidates for higher spiritual teaching.

There is no longer any proper siddhanta being preached in ISKCON. In any case, the Auschwitz for kids messiah's project's program's members and apologists are the lowest of mankind in our not so humble opinion, and they will have a special place in Hades, that is PADA's understanding of the siddhanta. 

There is an updated report on the Vrndavana gurukula abuse, and it does not look good folks. These people are the worst, and Patrikananda is worried about my bad language -- and not the suffering of the children victims. The good news for them is that the SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer officers are often made into the next wave of acharyas in this group, so maybe Mahashakti will be elevated as one of them.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

KARMA-VACUUM CLEANER PADA

Vacuum Bag is Full?

Scholars for Ritvik / Kailasa / Romapada / Varnasrama / Creation 08 09 26

You seem to have forgot something?

And it is pretty important!

You belong here with Me!

PADA: This is good news. Various India rishis, scholars, sadhus, swamis and saints all agree with us: The GBC's homosexual and pedophile acharyas program is fake, false and bogus, and no small amount of peril to children. And worship of a pure devotee is the only authorized method to attain Krishna. Well yup. ys pd. angel108b@yahoo.com

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KAILASA CHANDRA DASA FOLKS and Auschwitz for kids.

@ernestdras PADA Twists the facts and tells lies all over the place! Even people from his own ritvik camp despise him! This is how they rebuke his lies on their IRM ritvik website: # PADA simply 'makes up' statements, attributes them to us, and then attacks that – the very things we do not say – this is known as a 'straw man' argument. 

PADA: OK so the IRM leader Krishna Kant said he had "made a deal with Jayapataka, for me to go on a vacation in the Caribbean under the care of Jayapataka." Great! I never would have returned alive from the Caribbean? 

OK this is amazing, the Kailasa people are now working hand in glove with the people who wanted me to surrender to the leader of Mayapur's Auschwitz for kids. And they are upset I am not working with Krishna Kant, to go on vacation in the Caribbean, where I would have been made into shark bait / food. Even their own ritvik people are upset that PADA has not ended up as shark food! Question? Why would I work with these people? 

Children have been committing suicide under this program, and the IRM wanted me to stop -- so the suicides would -- increase. Why would any moral person allow children to suffer and commit suicide? And why doesn't Kailasa folks know harming children has to be stopped? 

And why -- in heaven's name -- would I surrender to a vacation managed by the leader of Auschwitz for kids? And why would they want me to? And the HKC Jaipur are the same, why isn't PADA working with -- our wonderful Auschwitz for kids program camp meister? Duh-oh!

ys pd 

My Caribbean Vacation Host!

Me becoming shark food result?

And the IRM is still upset I did not go!

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August 8th, 2026

Hare Krishna dear devotees,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

We are very grateful to share that Guru Maharaj (HH Romapada Swami) has been making encouraging progress since his stroke a week ago and is now continuing his recovery outside the hospital. He is slowly gaining strength and energy, and we are seeing gradual improvement.

While Maharaj is able to speak and communicate, the stroke affected some of the brain functions that help us take in what we hear, understand and organize information, connect thoughts and meanings, and formulate an appropriate response. His speech therapy is therefore helping his brain rebuild these abilities—not simply teaching him how to speak, but helping the different aspects of communication and understanding work together smoothly again.

At times, this means that Maharaj may need a little more time to process what is being communicated, organize his thoughts, or find the words he wants to express. These abilities are improving, but they will require time, patience and ongoing speech therapy.

Recovery from a stroke is a gradual process, but what is most encouraging is the progress Maharaj has made over this past week. By Krishna’s mercy, we pray that this progress will continue steadily in the days and weeks ahead.

Maharaj is very eager to resume his service, and that eagerness remains as strong as ever. For now, however, he is embracing this period of recovery with patience, giving his body and mind the time they need to heal and regain their strength.

We humbly request devotees everywhere to continue praying for Guru Maharaj’s complete recovery. We have been deeply touched by the outpouring of prayers, love and support from devotees around the world, and we are confident that Maharaj is being carried by that loving care, along with the causeless mercy of Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krishna.

With gratitude in our hearts, we pray that Guru Maharaj will continue to regain his strength and all the abilities affected by the stroke, and that, by Srila Prabhupada’s mercy, he will soon be able to fully immerse himself once again in the service he is so deeply devoted to.

Your servants,
Prema Tarangini Dd
Jaisachinandana Das,
Nityananda Pran Das,
Nanda Suta Das

PADA: Well what can I say? We all need to pray that the members of the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club can resume their service, of promoting illicit sex with men, women and children as God's successors. That way we can get more Vaishnavas banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed. Where do I sign up? ys pd  

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VARNASRAMA DHARMA KI JAYA

PADA: There are probably several hundred ex-Krishna kids living here in the Bay Area, and probably 100% of them boycott ISKCON. A society that cannot bring its children into it, will not survive. This actually happened here in the USA many times. There were giant movements like the Quakers and many others for some time, but their kids left ... and they vanished. 

ISKCON has never had a good system to integrate these kids. And now the temple is struggling because MAGA has reduced their Bengali poojari Visas. So they are begging for poojaris, they chased away all the kids and now it is a ghost town. A ghost town cannot produce varnasrama or anything of substance. A now a number of the Hindu legal signers on various ISKCON property are not even vegetarians. My friend back East says most of the Hindus at his temple -- eat meat. So it is turning into a Hindus process and the kids are no longer even considered. ys pd


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Krishna is described as Mayin — the wielder of Māyā. Māyā is His prakṛti, His creative power, His three‑guṇa energy that manifests the universe and simultaneously veils His true nature. In the Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad (4.9–10), prakṛti is called Māyā, and the Lord is the one who wields her expanded energy. This means:

Krishna is the source. Māyā is His expansion, His energy, His instrument. The world of names and forms is the projection of that energy.

PROCESS OF CREATION

MĀRKAṆḌEYA PURĀṆA by Kṛṣṇa Dvaipāyana Vyāsadeva

Chapter 45

Krauṣṭuki said, “O illustrious one! You have described creation to me, but the account has been extremely brief. O brāhmaṇa! Tell me in detail about the creation of gods and others.”

Mārkaṇḍeya replied, “O brāhmaṇa! Creation depends on the good and bad deeds one has performed earlier. At the time of destruction, everything is withdrawn. Beings are not freed. O brāhmaṇa! Brahmā made up his mind to create four kinds of beings, beginning with gods and ending with inanimate objects. These four are gods, asuras, ancestors and humans. Wishing to create, Prajāpati united with the water and a small bit of tamas was created. As he desired to create, asuras were thus first generated from his thighs. He abandoned that body, which was infused with the subtle element of tamas. Thus cast aside, night was instantly generated from this form.

“Desiring to create, he created another form and was delighted with it. Infused with sattva, the gods were generated from his mouth. The lord, the lord of beings, cast aside that body too. Thus cast aside, day was created from this sattva. 

He assumed another form that consisted of the subtle element of sattva. When he thought of himself as an ancestor, the ancestors were generated from this. Having created the ancestors, the lord cast aside this form too. Thus cast aside, sandhyā, the intervening period between day and night, was created from this.

“The lord then created another body, consisting of the subtle element of rajas. Infused with the subtle element of rajas, humans were generated from this. Having created humans, the lord cast aside this body too. This resulted in the creation of moonlight, seen at the end of the night and the beginning of the day. O brāhmaṇa! These are known as the bodies of the intelligent god of gods—night, day, sandhyā and moonlight.

“Moonlight, sandhyā and day—these three originated from the subtle element of sattva. Night originated from the subtle element of tamas and therefore has an excess of darkness. That is the reason why the gods are powerful during the day and the asuras are powerful during the night. 

Humans are powerful during moonlight and the ancestors during sandhyā. Since they are powerful during these respective periods, there is no doubt that adversaries cannot assail them then. When a contrary period ensues, they accordingly head towards calamity. Moonlight, night, day and sandhyā—these are the lord’s four forms. 

These are Brahmā’s forms, generated from the three guṇas.

“After Brahmā had created these four forms, Prajāpati was filled with hunger and thirst and created another form during the night. It was full of rajas and tamas. In that darkness, filled with hunger and thirst, the illustrious Aja created it.[530] He created malformed and bearded creatures who started to eat this body. Some said, ‘We will protect it,’ and they became rākṣasas.[531] O brāhmaṇa! Others said, ‘We will eat it,’ and they became yakṣas.[532]

“On witnessing this unpleasant sight, the creator’s hair started to fall from his head. When the hair fell from Brahmā’s head, it became inferior species. Since they writhed around, they became sarpas. [533] Since they are inferior, they are also known as ahis. [534] Seeing these snakes, he was filled with rage, and creatures that were angry and cruel resulted. These were tawny in complexion and fierce. These were beings that ate flesh.

“When he meditated on the earth, gandharvas were created. Since they were born from speech, they are known as gandharvas.[535] After the lord created eight classes of devas,[536] he created other things from his body—animals and birds. Goats were created from his mouth and sheep from his breasts. Brahmā created cattle from his sides. Horses, elephants, asses, hares, deer, camels, mules and many others were born from his feet. Herbs, fruits and roots were created from his body hair.

“In this way, creating animals and herbs, the lord performed a sacrifice. This was at the beginning of the kalpa, at the start of Tretā-yuga. Cows, goats, buffaloes, sheep, horses, mules and donkeys—these are known as domesticated animals. Hear about the ones that are from the forest. As the fifth category, these are predatory creatures, cloven-hoofed animals, elephants, monkeys and birds. [537] 

Animals that dwell in water are the sixth class and reptiles the seventh.

“From the mouth towards the east, he created the gāyatrī, the tṛca, the trivṛt-sāman, the rathantara and the agniṣṭoma sacrifice.[538] From the mouth towards the south, he created the hymns of the Yajur Veda, the triṣṭubh metre, the fifteen stomas, the bṛhat-sāman and the uktha.[539] From the mouth towards the west, he created the Sāma Veda hymns, the jagatī metre, the fifteen stomas,[540] the vairūpa-sāman and the atirātra sacrifice. From the mouth towards the north, he created the twenty-one Atharva Veda texts, the āptoryāma sacrifice, the anuṣṭubh metre and the vairāja mantra.

“The illustrious lord created lightning, thunder, clouds, red rainbows and birds at the beginning of the kalpa. Inferior and superior creatures were created from his body. After having first created the four categories—gods, asuras, ancestors and subjects—[541] he created mobile and immobile objects: yakṣas, piśācas, gandharvas, large numbers of apsarās, humans, kinnaras, rākṣasas, birds, animals, deer, serpents, those that decay and those that do not, those that are mobile and those that are not.

“Depending on the karma that they had performed in the earlier cycle of creation, they are thus born again and again. Whatever appealed to them and was thought of is thus reaped in this creation—violence, nonviolence, mildness, cruelty, preference for dharma and preference for adharma. The lord, the creator, himself created this addiction to the senses in the diverse bodies of beings.

“With the sounds of the Vedas as the beginning, he created gods and many other names and forms of beings in this visible universe. He gave names to the ṛṣis and the gods who were created at the end of the night.[542] In different seasons, many different kinds of signs are seen. Likewise, different kinds of signs are seen at the beginning of a yuga. In this way, when night is over, from one kalpa to another kalpa, Brahmā, whose origin is not manifest, engages in creation.”

ISKCON Bureau Court / Mahatma Kid's Project / Kailasa Chandra 08 08 26

PADA: Court is favoring these people challenging GBC Managers. You can get an English audio if you get into the CC audio. 

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MAHATMA'S SELF CARE FOR TEENS

PADA: How much more care for kids do we need pilgrims! Mahatma's messiahs and gurus are having illicit sex with men, women, children and maybe cats. Giriraja is getting oral sex in the temple room. Some of them are watching porno. At least Harikesha said gurus should wear condoms so there won't be a bunch of mini-Harikesha's running amok. So as soon as Mahatma finds his nice homosexual and pedophile messiah's program, he wants to get you to sign up and BRING your KIDDIES! Yikes pilgrims! We should send our kids over to get instructions from the anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club leaders!

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KAILASA CHANDRA and the VAISHNAVA FOUNDATION

PADA: 

1. Kailasa says that Srila Prabhupada's books do not give diyam jnanam that destroys sins (diksha). Pretty much the same as the Christians complain, Vedic knowledge cannot remove sins. How does he know the sins are not rectified? Is he in charge of who gets -- or does not get -- karma?  

2. Kailasa folks say that books can be interpreted in different ways, so you'd need "the guru" to explain the books. But they admit that have no one acting as "the guru" in their group. So there is no "the guru" available to guide people on the books. 

So now they are just negating all book reading and preaching as useless and guidance-less, having no "the guru" whatever in their process. You cannot read the books without "the guru," but there is none, so do not read them!

3. Kailasa says that we should worship the Madhyam, whom his folks admits can fall and become an asura. And that is why ISKCON's Ravindra Swarupa and Trivrikrama circulated Kailasa's writings in ISKCON. Srila Prabhupada says the acharya must be an uttama. A person who can fall and become and asura is not qualified to be acharya. 

4. Srila Prabhupada says just by reading my books they are initiated, Kailasa says that is not possible, there is no one getting initiated from these books. He knows more than Prabhupada! 

5. Srila Prabhupada says a Madhyam can NOT take karma -- only an uttama has the brahmana tejyas to burn off sins. Srila Prabhupada says if lesser people take sins, and cannot absorb sins, they will suffer, and they are. Kailasa people told me that Krishna will empower the Madhyam to take sins, but they do not cite where this is stated. 

6. Kailasa says pure devotee acharyas are similar to us neophyte kanistha "shiksha" devotees, just like the temple pot washing neophytes are shiksha devotees. Srila Prabhupada never said acharyas are only shiksha capable (neophytes) like us neophytes. 

7. Kailasa says the the people who worship a pure devotee are "Churchianity" and they need to find a conditioned soul Madhyam who can fall down as their guru. What is the harm in having a Church where everyone worships the acharya, he never explains, he only says it is wrong. The followers of Madhvacarya are Churchianity, because they all worship Madhva?  

8. The ritviks are printing original books, and making original book sites, and he is calling us ill names. Like his Jayadvaita pals? Meanwhile the Kailasa program has no book printing, no book sites etc. 

9. Kailasa Candra Prabhu also understands that ONE DOES NOT GET DIKSA THROUGH BOOKS ALONE! IT IS SOMETHING TO BE GIVEN THROUGH THE GRACE OF GURU, NOT TAKEN BECAUSE OF ONE'S FOOLISH DESIRES! 

PADA: OK so now you guys are saying Srila Prabhupada is absent from his books, there is no guru in the books. Srila Prabhupada says he is present in his books, and Kailasa folks say that is not correct. Who is correct, Kailasa folks or Srila Prabhupada? And we need the grace of guru, and Kailasa has no Madhyam guru. No grace is available. 

10. Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya disciplic succession must never be altered,  manufactured, or reinterpreted. It must be taken As It Is. Jaya Kailasa Prabhu! Jaya Prabhupada! 

PADA: But Kailasa program admits they have no current (Madhyam?) guru. 

11. @Gokulananda_LF The books are not the same as a manifest guru! You really think they are the same, and your trying to have an argument about it? You've lost before you started gunslinger tim. The books are great and should not be changed. They are the best thing we have. But are you seriously saying they can not be misinterpreted?? Are you trying to say they can make executive decisions and reprimand deviations?? Are you trying to say they can respond to contradictions that need to be cleared up?? 

PADA: But you already said there is no current guru to give a response? 

12. Kailasa folks said me and Sulochana are drunks and sahajiyas and Sulochana said, that made us targets for violence. 

PADA TO KAILASA CHANDRA

Well the GBC people send me your guys quotes that me and Sulochana are drunks and sahajiyas, which was being made by your group and / or Riktaharsana. And your followers were asking me how many bottles of Vodka I was buying for Sulochana etc. Sulochana said painting us as drunks and fringies is placing us in danger. 

And we were. Henry Doktorski's book confirms you guys were criticizing us as not following fringies, which was making us targets. Sulochana was not making this up, you guys made us targets. Riktaharsana admits to me he was citing the New Vrndavana people. Sorry, those people are not to be cited as our authority.

I had the GBC sued for $3M and $400M for the mass child mistreatment, while you and the GBC people were saying we are scum bag liars. To say we are liars when we are challenging MASS child mistreatment is aiding the child mistreatment. I am saying children are being molested, you guys are saying I am a scum bag liar, and the GBC people are citing you. 

I do not need to be taken serious by you or anyone else since already the courts, the FEDS, law enforcement, the media and hundreds of children victims all sided with me on these issues. And so have many devotees. To say I am a liar is what the child victimizers, books changers and GBC exponents also say. I am not being ostracized whatever, I have 35,000 - 65,000 views per day on my blog, and I get messages all the time from devotees, book writers, scholars, Hindus and etc. asking me about all this stuff all the time.

Srila Prabhupada said we need 50 initiated brahmanas here for the deities, your saying we need zero initiated people to do the deity pooja sounds to me like atheist. In any case, I have no idea what lies you are even talking about? What specifically have I lied about? It sounds to me like you are making this a character issue instead of an issues issue.

Our strategy is not collapsing, our blog is getting more hits, and inquiries all the time. And our sister sites like Bangalore are getting hundreds of thousands of views every month. This is called expanding. 

Anyway, yes, challenging mass child mistreatment, changed books, and Srila Prabhupada complaining of being given (poison) toxins in his last days, is all modes of you and the GBC ignoring. I get the same thing from the GBC people. 

But more people ask me about all this every day. We are also having more original books and book web sites inquiries every day, not collapsing at all. I had to expose the November tapes of Srila Prabhupada complaining of being taken out from poison by his leaders, and these leaders said I am a liar, and so are you guys. And the HKC Jaipur also said this is all PADA lies. Whose side are you guys on? 

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