JPS Health / Iran / Harikesh / Hindu Hodge Podge 08 06 26

URGENT PRAYER REQUEST for His Holiness Jayapataka Swami, who is fighting a serious infection

Medical update of Jayapataka Swami, 08:00 AM, August 5, 2026; Bengaluru, India.

Hare Kṛṣṇa,

Dear devotees, disciples, and well-wishers,

Please accept our humble prayers. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Today, Guru Mahārāja continues to remain in a delicate and critical condition.

After yesterday's serious episode of sepsis, he has not yet shown significant signs of improvement in overcoming this infection. The medical team has increased his treatment with antibiotics, but his body has not yet responded to the new therapy.

Due to the septic shock, Guru Mahārāja continues to need medications to support his blood pressure. Although the dosage of these medications has decreased since last night, his blood pressure still depends on this support.

During the night, his stomach and intestines have returned to normal. As a result, feeding has been temporarily suspended until his gastrointestinal function recovers.

To reduce the demands on his body while he fights this infection, Guru Mahārāja has been reintegrated into the comprehensive ventilation support.

These are very serious developments. The medical team continues to work 24 hours a day, adjusting the treatment as his condition evolves. At this moment, the next hours and days will be critical. We are especially grateful to HH. Radhanath Swami Maharaja, who took the time to sing and offer some comfort to Guru Mahārāja during a video call.

Humbly we request all devotees to intensify their prayers for Guru Mahārāja. In moments like these, there is no substitute for taking the sincere refuge of Lord Kṛṣṇa and praying for His mercy.

His servants.

In the name of the JPS health team and the JPS seva committee

Maha Varaha Dasa

PADA: OK when this was posted some of the commenters said "why keep him alive in all this suffering"? "Pull the plug already!" "You are causing him more problems by keeping him alive, LET HIM GO." I think more people are starting to realize, keeping him going at this stage is not helpful for him at all. It is prolonging his suffering. But yeah all the GBC groupies like Radhanath will pitch in to glorify JPS "steadfast service attitude." Ummm, wouldn't it be better to -- let him go already! ys pd

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IRAN 

It looks like the USA us running low on guided attack missiles like Tomahawks. And is running low on interceptors, like Patriots. Yes we have a lot of other munitions, but that could require sending in jets to drop them, and they become targets for anti-aircraft attacks. I was wondering how long we could keep shooting maybe 200 patriots a day when they cost millions each -- and cannot be made quickly, maybe one a day. We are running out, I think that is clear. 

Some MAGA type devotee sends me stuff like "we have severely weakened Iran." Right, you clobbered the hornet's nest, you got rid of maybe 5% of the hornets, and now the remaining 95% are coming after you. I fail to see how that is solid military planning or even common sense. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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HARIKESHA FRAUD GURU

The financial narrative surrounding Harikesa Swami’s (Robert Campagnola) exit from ISKCON in 1998 remains one of the most glaring contradictions and scandals in the history of the movement. Critics, whistleblowers, and former devotees argue that his explanation of suddenly acquiring immense wealth through the Moscow Stock Exchange is mathematically impossible and serves as a classic smokescreen for large-scale embezzlement.

When evaluating the math, the corporate structures, and his luxurious post-monastic life with his Swedish wife, Monika, the official narrative completely falls apart under secular scrutiny. Harikesa claimed that while serving as an ascetic sannyasi, GBC, and guru, he founded Visva Toshani and Prema Invest to legitimately trade on the Moscow Stock Exchange, generating millions.

The Russian economy in the 1990s was notoriously unstable, culminating in the August 1998 Russian Financial Crisis (where the ruble collapsed and the stock market completely crashed).

Harikesa left ISKCON in June 1998—right before the total economic meltdown. It is highly implausible that an American monk, operating inside Russia’s chaotic, mafia-ridden post-Soviet transition, built a legal, multi-million-dollar day-trading empire from scratch while simultaneously managing dozens of European temples.
Critics point directly to the corporate structure Harikesa controlled as the true source of his wealth. For decades, he was the sole authorized signatory of the European Bhaktivedanta Book Trust (BBT) account.

[German / European Street Collectors] ──► [EU BBT Bank Account] ──► (Harikesa's Signature) ──► [Visva Toshani & Prema Invest] ──► [Private Properties]

Because Harikesa operated with absolute, unchecked "Zonal Acharya" authority, he had the unique power to move funds without GBC oversight. Whistleblowers argue that Visva Toshani and Prema Invest were not brilliant trading firms, but rather letterbox companies designed to absorb funds routed out of the European BBT under the guise of "investments" or "printing costs."

Immediately upon discarding his robes, Harikesa married Monika and purchased a sprawling estate in St. Tropez, France—one of the most expensive luxury real estate markets in the world. When they relocated to the massive ISKCON-adjacent diaspora community in Alachua, Florida, the St. Tropez property was listed on the market for $900,000. 

If he had left ISKCON with only $1 million total, buying a property of that caliber would have completely wiped out his capital. It leaves zero liquidity to pay international relocation fees, cover astronomical French property taxes, invest in his new music business (Lotus Eye Music/Hari Media), or maintain a high-end Western lifestyle.

Maintaining a comfortable lifestyle in Florida while keeping a spouse accustomed to European standards requires a continuous, substantial flow of capital.
Aside from producing niche, self-released ambient and mantra-trance music, Robert Campagnola had no mainstream corporate career, intellectual property revenue, or secular inheritance capable of generating hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual passive income.

The math dictates that the capital taken during the 1998 split was vastly higher than the $1 million publicly discussed, or that the offshore corporate structures he set up while a guru continued to yield residual payouts long after his resignation.
While hundreds of dedicated German monks were cast out into poverty with no pensions, education, or trauma support, the leader who forced them onto the streets leveraged his absolute institutional control to secure a wealthy, peaceful retirement in the West.

[Hoarded European BBT Funds] ──► [Offshore Letterbox Shells] ──► [French Riviera Luxury Estate] ──► [High-End Alachua Retirement]

Meanwhile, the original European devotees, who had actually colected the money flowing into the BBT account through daily 10-hour fundraising efforts in freezing winters and hot summers, were thrown out. Left with no savings, no vocational skills, and no social safety net. Harikesa correctly highlights the darkest moral stains on the movement's history: the systematic abuse of children in the gurukulas (boarding schools) and the systemic exploitation of women.

The Historical Hypocrisy: While Harikesa lamented this in his 1998 farewell letters, these atrocities happened directly under his watch as a GBC member and chairman. The GBC spent the late 70s, 80s, and early 90s covering up, ignoring, or minimizing the horrific physical and sexual abuse of children in schools like Mayapur, Vrindavan, and various Western farms to protect the "reputation of the movement."

Harikesa paints himself as the ultimate victim of the system. But the true victims were not the multi-millionaire gurus who could afford to buy estates in St. Tropez and retire in Florida when the system broke down.

The devotees who were truly "cheated" were the rank-and-file European devotees. They gave up their youths, their educations, and their mental stability based on Harikesa's absolute demands, only to watch their guru walk away with a massive fortune while they were left to pick up the pieces of a shattered, "fruitless institutionalization."

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WHY IS THE ISKCON GBC ALIGNED WITH THE HINDUS?

VIVEKANANDA WAS ALSO NOT EVEN INTELLIGENT MAN BECAUSE HE ACCEPTED RAMAKRSNA AS INCARNATION OF GOD.

Note: There are many Hindus even among educated circles who tend to glorify Vivekananda and Ramakrishna but Srila Prabhupada exposes their bogus philosophy.

68-02-25. Letter: Satsvarupa

Please accept my blessings. I am in receipt of a copy of your last Istagosthi dated Jan. 27, and I am very much satisfied with your replies on the questions made in the Istagosthi. The meeting is called “Istagosthi” and not “Istagosthi”. YOU MAY KNOW ALSO THAT RAMAKRISHNA’S WORSHIP OF KALI MAKES HIM A THIRD CLASS MAN. 

In the Bhagavad-gita it is stated that one who worships the demigods just like Brahma, Siva, Indra, Candra or demigoddesses like Kali, Durga, Sarasvati, etc., are described as persons who have lost their intelligence. One person who has lost his intelligence, how he can become an incarnation of God? A person who has lost his intelligence, is not even counted amongst the higher section of society. 

So, the Ramakrishna is a bogus man according to the statement of Bhagavad-gita. VIVEKANANDA WAS ALSO NOT EVEN INTELLIGENT MAN BECAUSE HE ACCEPTED RAMAKRSNA AS INCARNATION OF GOD. THIS RAMAKRSNA, WHO IS ACTUALLY GADADHARA CHATTERJEE, DECLARED HIMSELF AS THE SAME RAMA AND KRSNA. IF HE IS ACCEPTED AS SUCH BY SOME PERSON, IS HE VERY INTELLIGENT MAN? 

Suppose a man comes before somebody and says he is Pres. Johnson. and the foolish man accepts the pretender as Pres. Johnson, is that man to be accepted as very intelligent man? VIVEKANANDA WAS NOT EVEN AN INTELLIGENT MAN BECAUSE HE ACCEPTED GADHADHARA CHATTERJEE AS INCARNATION OF GOD WITHOUT ANY CREDENTIALS. We accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead on the evidence of Vedic literature. 

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE IN THE VEDIC LITERATURES THAT A COMMON UNINTELLIGENT PERSON BY WORSHIPPING A DEMIGODDESS KALI CAN BECOME AN INCARNATION OF GODHEAD. THE GODDESS KALI IS DIVINE MOTHER FOR THE CONDITIONED SOULS, NOT FOR THE LIBERATED SOULS. THERE IS NO DIRECTION IN THE VEDIC LITERATURES THAT ONE CAN BECOME LIBERATED EVEN BY WORSHIPPING THE GODDESS KALI. SHE IS SUPERINTENDENT OF THE PRISON HOUSE KNOWN AS MATERIAL WORLD. ONE CAN DERIVE SOME MATERIAL FACILITIES BY WORSHIPPING KALI OR DURGA, BUT NOBODY CAN BECOME LIBERATED BY WORSHIPPING SUCH DEMIGODDESSES, SO WHAT TO SPEAK OF BECOMING INCARNATION OF GODHEAD. 

SO THE PROPAGANDA THAT RAMAKRSNA BECAME INCARNATION OF GOD BY WORSHIPPING KALI IS NOT ACCEPTED BY ANY AUTHORIZED ACHARYA AND THEREFORE IT IS A BOGUS PROPAGANDA. ONE WHO FOLLOWS THEREFORE, SUCH BOGUS PROPAGANDA IS ALSO MISLED AS FAR AS HIS SPIRITUAL ADVANCEMENT IS CONCERNED.

You have to meet many opposing elements in the matter of preaching work therefore you should always be careful to follow the principles of Bhagavad-gita as it is. You will be glad to know that our arrangements with MacMillan for publishing Bhagavad-gita As It Is is already completed, and the manuscript is handed over to them. We should preach clearly that our Krsna Consciousness movement is surely on the basis of Bhagavad-gita as it is. 

Any other movement which does not tally with the principles of Bhagavad-gita as it is, is considered by us as unauthorized. All these so-called yogic or other spiritualist movements in this country imported from India are all against the principles of Bhagavad-gita. It is our movement only which strictly follows the principles of the Bhagavad-gita, under the guidance of the authorities or acaryas in disciplic succession from Lord Caitanya who practically demonstrated in life and practice the principles of Bhagavad-gita. The last word in the Bhagavad-gita is to surrender unto Krsna and Lord Caitanya taught us to surrender unto Krsna. His transcendental movement of chanting the Holy name of Krsna and Rama is the sublime movement, not only at the present age, but for all the time past, present and future.

Hegel.SYA conversations

Prabhupada: Anything nonsense idea, that is not God. God has created you. You cannot create God. AND THEY ARE CREATING GOD. JUST LIKE VIVEKANANDA MISSION, YATA MATA TATA PATHA. AS MANY OPINION YOU HAVE GOT, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR RELIGIOUS WAY. YATA MATA, THIS IS THEIR MISSION, YATA MATA TATA PATHA, “WHATEVER YOU ARE THINKING, ALL RIGHT.” RAMAKRISHNA, HE WANTED TO REALIZE GOD FROM ANY WAY. AND LATER ON HE WANTED TO REALIZE GOD BY THE MOHAMMEDANS’ WAY AND HE ASKED THE PROPRIETOR OF THE TEMPLE TO ALLOW HIM TO TAKE MEAT, COW’S FLESH. SO WHEN HE ASKED, THE PROPRIETOR SAID, “PLEASE GO OUT. GET OUT.” 

Now don’t real…, I don’t want the (indistinct). This philosophy also you can realize God in any way, yata mata. Now he wanted to realize in the Mohammedan’s way, therefore he thought it wise that he must eat cow’s flesh. These things are there.

730813rc.par Conversations

Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. BECAUSE VIVEKANANDA SAID, “OH, WHAT IS THE HARM THERE, IN EATING? YOU CAN EAT WHATEVER YOU LIKE. IT DOESN’T MATTER IN RELIGION.” IT WAS THE FIRST. AND HE HIMSELF WAS EATING ANYTHING. SO ALL THE RAMAKRISHNA MISSION SANNYASIS STILL, THEY ARE EATING MEAT, EGG AND EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA. YES. FISH IS NO CONSIDERATION. THAT IS DAILY AFFAIR. And the turkey,… Yes. Instead of preaching here, they have taken the Western method. And Vivekananda’s preaching is like Western missionaries–open hospitals, school…

670224CC.SF Lectures

Oh, Caitanya Mahaprabhu regrets that such a great difference between God and the living entity, and Sankaracarya has described that we are God? That means he has diminished the opulence and value of God. Suppose if I call a third-class man “His Majesty,” then what is that? This word, “His Majesty,” is misused. JUST LIKE THEY ARE SAYING, DARIDRA-NARAYANA. THE FOOLISH RAMAKRISHNA MISSION HAS, I MEAN TO SAY, DISCOVERED A WORD, DARIDRA-NARAYANA, “POOR NARAYANA.” NARAYANA, WHO IS THE HUSBAND OF MANY THOUSANDS OF GODDESS OF FORTUNE, HE HAS BECOME POOR. JUST SEE THE THEORY. 

You can ask Nikhilananda what is the meaning of daridra-narayana. THEY HAVE DISCOVERED. VIVEKANANDA HAS DISCOVERED. NARAYANA HAS BECOME POOR. WHEN YOU ASK HIM, “WHY DO YOU CALL DARIDRA-NARAYANA?” THEY WILL EXPLAIN LIKE THAT, “BECAUSE NARAYANA IS THERE, THEREFORE NARAYANA HAS BECOME DARIDRA.” JUST SEE. SUPPOSE A RICH MAN COMES INTO THIS STORE, SO HE BECOMES POOR JUST LIKE US. BECAUSE HE HAS KINDLY COME HERE IN THIS STORE, SO BECAUSE WE ARE ALL POOR MEN, HE’LL ALSO BECOMES POOR MAN? 

THIS IS THE REASON. BUT THESE ARE ALL NONSENSE. NARAYANA NEVER BECOMES POOR. THE POOR, POVERTY-STRICKEN MAN, ALL THESE THINGS ARE FOR THE JIVAS, THE LIVING ENTITIES. NARAYANA IS NEVER POOR. NARAYANA IS NEVER UNDER IGNORANCE. NARAYANA NEVER BECOMES DOG. We become dog. We become cat. You should always… Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore rejects, that “This sort of philosophy propounded by Sankara is a great mistake because he has minimized the value of the Supreme Lord. By making a dog a god, he has insulted God. Therefore this Mayavada philosophy is the most offensive activities of the living being.” So you should be very, very careful, very careful.

701219SB.SUR Lectures

There are two classes of men in this world. One is called daiva, and the other is called asura. Asura means rebelled against God: “Don’t care for God. I am God. You are God. Everyone is God. Why you are searching after God? There are so many Gods in the streets, lying on the footpath, daridra-narayana. You serve these Gods.” You see? This is illusion. Daridra-narayana, starving God. So many subscription are raised in America in the name of serving these daridra-narayanas in India. Now these Americans are questioning that “You take money for serving the daridra-narayana. 

Why we see…? When we go to India, why we see so many daridra-narayanas are lying on the footpath?” These questions are being made. One of the big Ramakrishna Mission swamis, Swami Nikhilananda, he told me. It is not my manufactured story. Actually, people are claiming welfare society, welfare activities. But what welfare they are doing actually? The welfare activities are increasing, and the candidates for receiving the welfare, they are increasing. 

You are trying to serve the daridra-narayana, but actually the number of daridra-narayanas are increasing daily. So that is the position. Here, practically, NARAYANA CANNOT BE DARIDRA. THAT IS ANOTHER ILLUSION. NARAYANA IS THE HUSBAND OF THE GODDESS OF FORTUNE, LAKSMI. HOW HE CAN BE DARIDRA? It is also manufactured word. Laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami. Here we keep one Laksmi, but as soon as there is any little discrepancy, the Laksmi immediately becomes angry and there is divorce. Practically there is no respect from the side of Laksmi to the so-called daridra-narayana. 

But there, thousands and thousands of Laksmis are very respectfully serving the Lord. You’ll read in the story of Rukmini, the prime Laksmi of Lord Krsna. One day Krsna was a little joking, and she took it very seriously, and she immediately fainted. So much respect. “Oh, Krsna might be thinking of leaving me.” So she fainted immediately. So much sambhrama. Laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam. These are the statements of scripture. And when Krsna was actually present on the planet, He showed it, how much He is respectfully served by His sixteen thousand wives, and how much comfortably He kept all of them in different palaces, and expanding Himself into sixteen thousand forms. 

That is God. That is God. So everyone, even the Laksmi is servant, maidservant of Krsna, what to speak of others? Dasi. So how one can claim that “I am God”? God is not so cheap. Only persons who are illusioned, they claim that “I am God.” He is servant. Instead of becoming, voluntarily rendering service to God, because they claim to be God they are more put into illusion. Maya-grasta jivera sei dasa upajaya. It is said in the Vaisnava literature, pisaci paile yena mati-cchanna haya, maya-grasta jivera sei dasa upajaya: “Just like a person, when he is haunted by ghosts, he speaks all kinds of nonsense, similarly, when a living entity is engrossed by the illusory aspect of this material nature, he also talks all foolishly.” He also talks… One of the greatest foolish things is that he claims that “I am God.

SB 3.15.25 P Description of the Kingdom of God

Changed Books / Mahatma Madness / Australia Problem? / Jesus / Putana 08 05 26

MAHATMA MADNESS GETTING WORSE

FORGIVE US LORD!

PADA: It looks like Mahatma's forgiveness tour is on hold while he started his new conversations with a bead bag program. Dude! You program kicked out nearly all the people who were chanting on their bead bags. The Hindus who come to your temples on Sunday do not have bead bags and a lot of them eat meat. 

Your program has had devotees banned, beaten, sued, molested and killed. I think it is not going to save you to have a bead bag. Mahatma is a co-founder father of the illicit sex with men, women, children -- and cats? messiahs project, and then he wants us to forgive him for making that program, without ever explaining why he made that program? ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

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BIG TROUBLE DOWN UNDER?

PADA: OK I have no idea who this fellow is. He claims there is a lot of child abuse still going on in ISKCON Australia. And leaders masturbating in front of others and so on. I dunno. But there seems to be a problem with these types of things surfacing in ISKCON from one day to the next. 

If anyone can investigate his claims there, that would be great. I have heard all sorts of rumors over the years of all sorts of things, including gurukuli girls getting abortions in India and who knows what else. You have to ask yourself, why do these types of reports keep surfacing? 

OK some of the reporters are not reliable, perhaps so, but still we have to ask, have these problems been fixed? I know there are some really upset people in Australia. My suggestion is -- you guys organize a forum and get yourselves some type of structure to address things. Otherwise individuals making pot shots here and there is not very effective.

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com

   

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BACK TO JESUS HEAD

PADA: Sorry. I know who is reincarnated as what. The mleccha dharma people are eating animals, and they become them, that is called the law of karma. Meat is called mam-sah. "I will become you (that animal which I eat)." We sow pain and death, we reap the same. What we sow is what we reap. 

That is a simple point, if we make someone else suffer, we will later on. Basically common sense. God already told my atheist lady friend not to eat animals as the Lord in the Heart. She told me -- eating animals causes pain, suffering and death, and it thus is NOT to be done. EVER! How does she know that? Krishna told her in the heart, because she is a compassionate soul -- so Krishna rewarded her with further understanding. 

But yeah, the Christians do not believe in karma, and thus they think all these animals are here for them to make suffer, chop up. cook and eat, that is not correct. I don't have to say anything, what one does to others happens to oneself later on, that is called -- what you sow, so shall ye reap. 

And there are billions of animals eaten every day, and then billions are born every day. That is how it works. We see it every single day. And it is working fine, sowing and reaping. If you do not believe in sowing and reaping, so be it, I do. ys pd

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The Story of Putana’s Past Life and Her Revenge Against Lord Krishna

The scriptural account of the demoness Putana’s past life is extremely captivating, sweet, and at the same time, a unique instance of the Supreme Lord’s boundless mercy.

​According to sacred scriptures including the Padma Purana, Bramhavaivarta Purana, and Garga Samhita, Putana was Ratnavali, the daughter (or younger sister) of the demon king Bali, in her previous birth.

​The Awakening of Maternal Affection and Anger in Ratnavali

​In Satya Yuga, when Lord Vishnu incarnated as Vamana Deva and arrived at the sacrificial arena (yajna-shala) of King Bali, Ratnavali was mesmerized by the exquisite charm and beauty of the young dwarf Brahmin. Beholding the serene and captivating form of Vamana Deva, a deep feeling of maternal affection (vatsalya rasa) arose in her heart.

​She mentally expressed her desire: ​"Ah! If only I had such a beautiful child, I would blissfully breastfeed him and fulfill my motherhood!" ​Being the omniscient Lord, Vamana Deva understood the innocent desire of her heart and silently granted her the boon, saying, "Tathastu" (So be it).

​From Maternal Love to Rage and Resolve for Revenge

​However, the narrative soon took a dramatic turn. When Lord Vamana cleverly measured the entire universe (Heaven, Earth, and the Netherworld) in three steps and bound her father Bali with serpent ropes (naga-pasha), Ratnavali's maternal love instantly transformed into intense anger and revenge.

​Deeply enraged by her father's humiliation and deception, she made a venomous vow in her mind: ​"The boy who deceived my father and robbed him of everything—if he ever becomes my child, I shall kill him by feeding him poison!"

Fulfillment of Desire in Dwapara Yuga and the Supreme Mercy of the Lord

​The Supreme Lord is immensely merciful; just as He accepts the love of His devotees, He does not let even the intentions of His enemies go in vain. Ratnavali had formed two distinct resolves:

​Breastfeeding the Lord as her child.

​Taking revenge and killing Him by administering poison. ​In Dwapara Yuga, that very Ratnavali was reborn as the demoness Putana, an accomplice of Kamsa. Upon Kamsa's command, she went to Gokula and attempted to kill the infant Krishna by feeding Him her poisoned breast milk, which was the manifestation of her past-life revenge.

Scriptural Evidence from Srimad Bhagavatam

​In the Srimad Bhagavatam (Canto 10, Chapter 6), it is described that Lord Krishna overlooked Putana’s lethal poison and malicious intent, choosing instead to accept only her initial instinct of maternal care (vatsalya). Under the guise of drinking her milk, the infant Krishna sucked out her life force and killed her; yet, He granted her the exalted spiritual destination of a nursing mother (dhatri)!

​aho bakī yaṁ stana-kālakūṭaṁ

jighāṁsayāpāyayad apy asādhvī

lebhe gatiṁ dhātry-ucitāṁ tato 'nyaṁ

kaṁ vā dayāluṁ śaraṇaṁ vrajema

(Srimad Bhagavatam 3.2.23)

​Translation:

​"Alas! How wonderfully merciful is Lord Krishna! Even though the wicked demoness Putana fed Him her breast milk smeared with deadly poison with the intention to kill Him, He bestowed upon her the position of a surrogate mother. Whom else shall we take shelter of, other than such a merciful Lord?"

​Summary

​In her previous life, Putana sought revenge for Lord Vamana's trickery against her father Bali. As a result of her two contrasting desires—maternal affection and the urge to murder—she attempted to kill Lord Krishna in Dwapara Yuga by feeding Him poisoned milk.

Romapada Health / Iran / JPS / IRM 08 02 26

Krishna knows the name of each and every cow and calf.

Prayers Requested for Romapada Swami Hospitalized in Atlanta

The following message was released by ISKCON Atlanta:

With a heavy heart, we share that soon after His arrival in Atlanta, His Holiness Romapada Swami Maharaj experienced some unforeseen health challenges and was admitted to Grady Memorial Hospital.

By the causeless mercy of Sri Krishna and Srila Prabhupada, Maharaj is now receiving care and is showing encouraging signs of improvement.

In this moment, Maharaj needs our heartfelt prayers the most. We humbly and earnestly request all devotees to kindly keep Maharaj in your sincere prayers and chant for His complete and speedy recovery.

Let us all pray together for His Holiness Romapad Swami to be quickly restored to good health.

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AMERICA IS RUNNING OUT OF WEAPONS

PADA: OK pilgrims, the neo-cons never had the resources for another one of their prolonged forever wars. Now they are panicked because they think they might lose the mid-terms -- and no longer have unlimited trillions for their forever wars, some folks might vote against funding that agenda. That will be terrible! 

Iran uses decoys to make USA run down its anti-aircraft stock. Which is why Srila Prabhupada says -- Krishna arranges for the asuras to fight -- to drain down and expend their military might and weapons.

The neo-cons said they got into this war "because they had a good feeling about it." OK then, but a feeling does not always produce good results. We are always getting rid of dictators, which might produce even worse dictators. We got rid of Saddam, and that created ISIS and many other similar vicious splinter groups in Iraq. Not sure how that helps?

Now their big plan is to block Iran's banks, but those banks are already trading in BRICS currency and they do not need USA banking. And blocking banking is a very long term attrition issue in any case and will not produce quick results, if any results ever. 

So it looks like the USA is draining its weapons, draining its oil reserves, and draining its economy with huge expenses, and for -- what? Iran says they need complete control of the straits to block USA weapons from entering the region, and I think they will eventually get that awarded. Iran also said they are not aware of any new deal being made, they are still waiting for USA people to adhere to the original MOU. Hard to tell with both sides giving mixed messages. 

OK this is another neo-con blunder, which is costing the USA on all sorts of levels. The GBC does the same thing, anyone who does not agree with their policy is rough shod pushed out the door. And the neo-cons similarly fire and remove anyone who questions their policy. Get rid of the people asking questions! 

And then the more qualified advisors are -- absent, and mistakes are prone to be made. And are. And this botched war is just one of their more glaring examples of being out of touch. I am not a big fan of the USA per se, but I do live here, and so do a lot of devotees and their children, so I am sort of hoping against hope that it does not fail. But to be honest, this is not looking good. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com   

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JAYAPATAKA UPDATE

PADA: OK so we told Jayapataka there is a child mistreatment problem in 1979. He said -- you get out of ISKCON, and take us to COURT if there is any issue with these kids. So I did, I had his program sued first for $3,000,000 -- and he lost. Then had to sued him again for $400,000,000, and he lost again (both times in Dallas). When he saw me in Los Angeles he ran at me shouting like a mad person. He was not happy I followed his order to take him to court, so I could save these kids? 

Then I helped other cases with other documents, costing millions more. After all that, the Jayapataka people wrote to complain to me that I am costing them $100,000,000, and I am more expensive than the TOVP. When did Srila Prabhupada order the GBC gurus to spend $100,000,000 buying Armani suits and Mercedes for lawyers? I thought he said we should print books? 

Anyway, as soon as we follow their orders, and stop their child mistreatment program in court, then they complain about the money, without even mentioning the trauma they are causing all these children. But yeah we won both times because their main goal of life is to buy Armani suits and Mercedes for lawyers. That is not the goal of the Krishna religion. The good news also is that when they sent their enforcers to place me in the morgue, the FEDS arrested their enforcers and that too cost them a lot of money, because their properties were then SWAT raided by the FEDS etc. They could just sit down and talk to me, but no, they would rather buy Armani suits for their meat eating lawyers. ys pd


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IRM (Krishna Kant)

Back To Prabhupada

ISKCON India ("II"), represented by its "scholars" board ("IISB"), recently launched a series of videos trying to refute The Final Order (TFO) and the position it sets forth, which IISB calls "rtvikism". They felt compelled to do this because, like ISKCON GBC gurus HH Jayadvaita Swami and HH Bhakti Vikasa Swami, they also recognised the position of TFO as being the "Bible" of accepting Srila Prabhupada's order that he is ISKCON's diksa guru:

"The Final Order on rtvikism, which is considered as the Bible for the rtviks. [...] godfather of rtvik."

Thus, even 30 years after TFO was requested by, and sent to, the GBC, ISKCON realises the only way to oppose Srila Prabhupada's position as ISKCON's diksa guru today is to try to refute TFO. The quotes in the shaded boxes above and below are taken from these IISB videos released between 16/5 and 2/6, 2025.

PADA: The final order is not "the Bible" on the idea of worshiping a pure devotee as guru, this was already being discussed widely in Vedic Village Review and other places way before TFO was ever put together. TFO copied and pasted many of the citations already in use by us in the 1980s. Of course Krishna Kanta does get some credit for collating our citations and re-packaging them as TFO, which has helped the ritvik argument along in some areas.  

Forever wrong about TFO

"The Final Order and basically in a nutshell that book propagated the idea that this letter of July 9th, 1977 was Srila Prabhupada's final order on initiations and suddenly because of that letter Prabhupada continues to be the guru forever and ever."

PADA: This "one letter": idea is also a big mistake. Srila Prabhupada says we have to worship a pure devotee in hundreds -- if not thousands -- of places, not just "in one letter." We were already saying Srila Prabhupada is the acharya in 1978 with no TFO to guide us. 

This is a fabrication. TFO does not state that Srila Prabhupada will be the guru "forever". Here is what it actually states:

"Srila Prabhupada will be the initiator within ISKCON for as long as the Society is extant." (TFO, p. 81)

PADA: Well there is a big problem right there. Most of the official ISKCON properties right now are no longer even in the name of ISKCON, there is a slew of other newly formed charities. All of the official ISKCON has declared bankrupt in the USA. 

Most of the remainder of what is left of ISKCON has been hijacked. We should say Srila Prabhupada will be worshiped as the acharya -- until or unless another proven self effulgent acharya appears, which may or may not happen. And he will be worshiped in or out of official ISKCON. It is not dependent on the Society being extant -- especially when the existence of the society is in such doubt and bad repair.

Thus, TFO only states that Srila Prabhupada will be the diksa guru for ISKCON, since he will also be the Acarya for ISKCON. Eternally wrong about TFO

"we find that that "henceforward" is not sanctioned to be considered as "into eternity.""

PADA: ISKCON is being dismantled, demolished and disintegrated and cannot be the standard for how long the acharya will be worshiped. 

This refers to the fact that the July 9th, 1977 directive on initiations was to begin "henceforward". However, TFO does not claim that "henceforward" means "into eternity". Rather, it states:

"The specific word used, "henceforward", only has one meaning, viz. "from now onwards"." (TFO, p. 3)

Indeed, we even state in regard to the word "henceforward" that: "even if we take the word out of the letter, nothing has changed." (TFO, p. 3)

Thus, as before, IISB has simply addressed something TFO does not even state.
More fabrication: Srila Prabhupada stated the "law of disciplic succession" in a letter to Tusta Krsna Dasa on 2/12/75 as follows:

"But as a matter of etiquette it is the custom that during the lifetime of your Spiritual master you bring the prospective disciples to him, and in his absence or disappearance you can accept disciples without any limitation. This is the law of disciplic succession." It is claimed by the IISB videos that we claim in TFO that this law was:

"somehow reversed by this July 9th letter." And that such a claim by us would be absurd because: "How is it possible? Why would Prabhupada write one thing and contradict himself?"

But we do not state the letter "reverses" the law. We do not state this because the law and the July 9th letter are not incompatible, as we will explain later on. For now, we can note how IISB, rather than answer TFO, has instead yet again just engaged in another fabrication about TFO.

In this way, large sections of the videos do not even attempt to address what TFO actually states, and therefore are completely irrelevant and thus useless in refuting TFO. There are only two times where the IISB videos directly quote and attempt to deal with what TFO states, and we address them next.

Illness doctrine defeated

"July 9th letter actually has list of 11, you know, rtviks assigned by Prabhupada who could do initiation when Prabhupada was not well." This "illness" argument addresses this quote from TFO given by the video: "the July 9th letter really is the final instruction on initiation within ISKCON" (TFO, p. xiv)

PADA: It is odd that the GBC people like Rupanuga and the India scholars board said that worship of the acharya is temporary -- only while he is ill. And then we should worship their assorted deviants, crooks, drunks, homosexuals, pedophiles and deviants as our acharyas.

Thus, IISB is trying to show that the July 9th directive giving the final system for initiations within ISKCON was not issued as a general directive on initiation for ISKCON, even though that is what the directive states. But that rather it was a temporary, one-off measure, instituted only to address Srila Prabhupada's inability to perform initiations due to being ill. 

Hence, the temporary nature of the July 9th directive would be established by this "illness" doctrine ("ID"). However, this ID has already been defeated many times by us in previous BTPs, and again on page 4 of this issue. We will now show how it has also been defeated by IISB themselves. The Bureau is the governing body of ISKCON India, and they stated as part of a resolution, communicated on 25/11/19, that:

"ritvik (guru – as per the July 9 letter)".

ISKCON India Scholars Board

Thus, they state that the appointment of a rtvik in the July 9th letter was also the appointment of "guru". Which means that II believes the July 9th letter was not issued temporarily to deal with Srila Prabhupada's illness, but that it was issued to permanently appoint gurus. Thus, by II's own hand, the ID is demolished, and they must accept the permanent nature of the July 9th directive.

The fact that the July 9th directive does not even mention, nor actually appoint, "guru", does not change the fact that II deludedly believes that it does! The net result is that IISB cannot claim the "illness" objection to TFO's central thesis that the July 9th directive is the final instruction for initiations within ISKCON.

Recycling the defeated

The one other time the IISB videos deal with answering what TFO states is a quote from pages 18-19, wherein TFO speaks about the private letters Srila Prabhupada wrote to those who were "ambitious" to become diksa gurus even in Srila Prabhupada's physical presence. IISB's response is to claim that we are claiming Srila Prabhupada "lies" to the devotees concerned. The exact same argument was already made previously by the same IISB member making the claims here, and we already refuted these "lying" claims in BTP 79, and they can be read here:

iskconirm.com/lies

There we show we are not claiming that Srila Prabhupada is lying. Lying projection: We can show, however, that IISB actually does believe Srila Prabhupada is lying.

a) One of the private letters written by Srila Prabhupada, in which the IISB videos falsely claim that we are stating Srila Prabhupada is telling "lies", is a letter to Tusta Krsna Dasa, dated 2/12/75, in which the "law of disciplic succession" that we quoted earlier is stated. However, the letter also refers to being applicable to all of Srila Prabhupada's disciples by stating "every student" and "my disciples". And the IISB videos claim that this "law" is an order for diksa gurus, and that it is "the final decision of initiations". 

Which would mean that, according to IISB, this letter would be authorising female diksa gurus ("FDG"). But IISB has already rejected FDG as a deviation, as we have documented in earlier issues. And, thus, they would have to believe that Srila Prabhupada was "lying" when he referred to "every student" and "my disciples" in this letter.

b) Also, the "law", as we quoted earlier, states that one can only become a diksa guru after the "disappearance" of one's own guru. But ISKCON has authorised numerous diksa gurus in the physical presence of their own spiritual masters. Thus, if IISB believed in the "law", it would have launched a campaign against such "granddisciple gurus", as they are in violation of the "law", which according to IISB was the "final decision of initiations". After all, as we saw in the case of FDG, IISB will launch a campaign against gurus if they believe they are not authorised. But IISB has not launched such a campaign in this case, showing they do not even "believe" in the law, and have only invoked it to try to oppose TFO.

No limitation or incompatibility

In regard to this law, it is further claimed:
 
"what that does is that naturally limits the July 9th letter to the lifetime of Prabhupada."

However, the law only states when it is possible for a disciple to become a diksa guru: "in his absence or disappearance you can accept disciples"

It therefore states nothing about when the existing diksa guru must cease acting as a diksa guru himself, since the "law" only states "you can", not "must", accept disciples. Thus, the law does not limit Srila Prabhupada to only acting as the diksa guru during his lifetime. Therefore, the July 9th directive, which states that Srila Prabhupada continues to act as ISKCON's diksa guru, is not limited to Srila Prabhupada's lifetime, as claimed above.

Nor does the July 9th directive change the fact that a guru's physical absence is the only time period in which it is possible for a disciple to become a diksa guru. Thus, just because it may not become necessary to exercise this law, does not mean the law is being discarded or contradicted. So the law and the July 9th directive are not incompatible, nor does one "reverse" or "supersede" the other.

Srila Prabhupada declared deviant

We have dealt with basically all the arguments claimed by IISB to be from Srila Prabhupada that supposedly terminate the July 9th directive. One other relevant quote from Srila Prabhupada offered by the IISB videos was the quote from October 18th, 1977, which was already answered on page 4.

An extremely large portion of the videos deal instead with going outside Srila Prabhupada's actual statements and claiming to offer evidence from: the leaders of organisations outside ISKCON, tradition, and "sastra". But what outside leaders may say is irrelevant to what Srila Prabhupada ordered. This can only be determined by examining Srila Prabhupada's orders themselves! And "tradition" will be shown in the next article as not being able to prevent Srila Prabhupada from continuing as ISKCON's diksa guru.

The arguments from "sastra" are self-defeating because they would mean that what IISB accepts Srila Prabhupada did order would also not be sastric. For example, they claim "sastra" states:

"First thing is this name-giving ceremony is done by an Acarya. [...] so the representative cannot give the name. [...] The Acarya should tell [...] Rtvik Prabhu, I thought of this name [...] This much communication must be there from Acarya to representative."

Thus, it is emphatically claimed that a spiritual name cannot be given by the rtvik representative, but rather must only be given by the Acarya or diksa guru. But IISB accepts that the July 9th directive is a valid document authorised by Srila Prabhupada, and this states the exact opposite, that the representative alone gives the spiritual name:

"After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupad by giving a spiritual name".

Thus, in their desperation to defeat TFO using "sastra", they have only ended up claiming that it is Srila Prabhupada himself who has deviated from sastra!

The Final Order

Final order delivers final nail

PADA: The Final Order is simply one of many tools currently being used to re-focus the worship on Srila Prabhupada. Some new bhakta just wrote to PADA and he said their temple has had so many GBC gurus come and go, there is no incentive to worship any one of them now. It is "revolving door" gurus. So he is going to worship Srila Prabhupada. 

I think that is the direction it is heading no matter what. That being said, Krishna Kant has some strange obsession with his idea that we cannot conduct ritvik initiations until we convince the GBC to do them for us. What if the GBC never does? He does not seem to have a plan B. 

KK originally wanted me to work under Jayapataka and take a vacation in the Caribbean under the loving care of JPS, so he has had secret meetings with them. But I fail to see any positive result. Worse, I never would have returned alive from KK's Caribbean vacation. I would have probably been sliced up with machetes and fed to the Caribbean sharks. He is a little naive, or compromised, or in league with the bad guys, but his ideas are not completely correct. Anyway yeah, there is no other order, worship the pure devotee is the only order -- full time and all the time. ys pd

 

ys pd

Russia Art / Jadurani / Indradyumna feet / PADA critics / Vedabase 08 01 26

Art from somewhere in Russia?

Looks like they mixed: medieval angel's wings,

some Krishna art, and who knows what.

Notice the figure on left is touching His foot.

Kinda odd? OK, but I think I like it!

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PADA: It looks like a lot of these "senior devotees" like Jadurani, Srutakirti, Rupanuga, Satsvarupa, Hari sauri etc. are cashing in on their status as former servants of Srila Prabhupada. But if these folks were so dedicated to Srila Prabhupada, how did ISKCON go up in smoke almost immediately after 1978? 

And now these people are sort of guru wanna-be big shot authorities. As for Jadurani going to Narayan Maharaja -- wait -- when the manure hit the fan, NM was a prime person shoveling manure into the fan -- hanging out with his BFF GBC gurus. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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PADA: Good question prabhu, why does the GBC allow all this foolishness? Ummm, because these people are the GBC, or they control the GBC. All this feet touching stuff is also not authorized. Yeah this looks total cult-like whacked and intelligent people are not going to join this crazyness, and worship these fools. It will always be their fiefdom little cults. Agreed! ys pd

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PADA: Thanks for sending JJ. Yeah he looks like he is suffering. These guys think they can absorb karma like Jesus. Nope! This is Hari Parshad's guru, no wonder he is with the GBC clod hopper's guru system. 

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Ron Singh / HKC Jaipur / Mukunda UK / Prahlad / Mathura Pati etc.

PADA: Yep prabhu! Thanks for the question, what is the response from these folks? OK there is none, same as the GBC. These Ron Singh and HKC Jaipur ilk guys are making videos with Naranarayan NNV -- who says the ritviks are -- poison slimy snakes -- while claiming to be pro-ritviks. So this is called hypocrisy. And the HKC clan made another video with Radhanath's cheer leader Bhakta dasa. 

Then they are quoting Bhavananda's cheer leader Hari Sauri. Then, after the HKC Jaipur folks like Prahlad das crammed Radhanath's cheer leader Bhakta Dasa's video forward to me about 100 times, HKC Jaipur Dayalu Nitai responds "I don't know who Bhakta dasa is." But we told them Bhakta supports Saint Radhanath over and over?

They have no idea who and what they are promoting? The GBC also says the same thing, well we did not know this guy was a pedophile. Yeah but we told you he was about 1,000 times.

And they clearly promoted the Naranaryan NNV video, the same person who says ritviks are poison slimy snakes. They make videos with these anti-ritvik people, or worse pro-GBC pedo guru people, and cram these videos down PADA's and everyone else's throat. Then they are infuriated PADA is not promoting their videos. Then they claim -- they have no idea who and what they are promoting? 

Sorry, they know VERY WELL who and what they are promoting. It really comes down to, PADA caught them with their hands in the poison slimy snake ritviks and pedophile guru boosting cookie jar. Now they have chocolate cookie mess smeared all over their faces, but "I did not touch these cookies, honest." Sheesh!

No, you did touch these cookies! Hee hee. So they are not honest people, it is that simple. And that is why they hold a grudge. So do the GBC folks as well. But no, I do not expect a reply from the anti-ritvik and pro-pedophile guru folks, because there is no good response. My job is to expose them, and keep other people from falling into their process. Then there is Purujit, and he advertises GBC people like Jayapataka holding his book. OK then! ys pd  

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VEDABASE IMBROGLIO

About the Prahlad Nrsimha Vedabase Icon

Prahlad of vedabase.io has expressed his concern about the copyright of his icon and has decided to report the hosting platform where vedabase.cc is hosted. Surprisingly, he is willing to risk the only source of the original books of Srila Prabhupada to protect his own ridiculous icon.

This situation highlights his lack of ethics. Prahlad is so concerned about his icon, while continuing to distribute Srila Prabhupada's books with thousands of unauthorised modifications by His Divine Grace. This deceives devotees around the world, making them believe they are receiving the original versions.

If he really cares about the copyright issue, why does he offer the mutilated books of Srila Prabhupada on his website? This is not a minor matter. I invite you to check the horrendous number of changes by yourself at: 

https://diff.vedicvault.org/

AI / Ron Singh / Iran / Book Changes Crisis 07 29 26

Mother Yasoda Stopping Lord Siva 

AI is going to save America and create hundreds of thousands of jobs! 

PADA: Well not so fast. First of all AI is used to manage robotics, which replaces people's jobs -- including here-- the robotics taxis to get rid of our city taxi drivers jobs. Next problem, AI uses a lot of water and power of which the USA is in short supply. Next problem, China is already offering multiple FREE AI sites that don't charge any money, making it harder to make a profit from AI. 

Next problem, investing in AI from Wall Street siphons money that could be used to make real manufacturing of real products. Next problem, AI is being used to monitor public cameras all over the place that are doing surveillance on people. It is looking like a 1984 Big Brother monitoring process. 

Next problem, there are forest fires all over the planet from climate change and making electrical power for AI creates a lot of carbon output, which is not good for the climate, and so on! But the oligarchs want us to believe AI is going to save us, but -- it won't. OK it looks like it could be creating a lot of problems instead. 

And some Bible thumping folks are saying -- AI is the mark of Satan and the Beast --- heh heh heh. But I think the public is starting to push back on these big AI projects, because it is starting to be seen as more of a menace than a help for humanity. 

The good news? Some devotees said when they type in questions about ISKCON or ISKCON leaders -- then the AI often cites -- PADA's info! That must be giving the GBC guys a headache! ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com 

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RONALD SINGH (Oroville)

PADA: Well sorry prabhu -- if PADA is making his Oroville program suffer. However since Ronald Singh's pal Naranaryan Visvakarma is saying "PADA is destroying the sacred golden body of ISKCON," that is making me a target for violence or even death. "Go get the offender to the golden body." That means his program is trying to harm my program, or even my life. The Vedic principle is -- we have a right to defend ourselves, or maybe even a duty to do so.

PADA's advice? We have to be completely untethered away from the pedophile messiah's project and its defenders, or we are implicated, that is my -- not so humble -- opinion. NNV says "the ritviks are slimy poison snakes." Does he want to make us ritviks targets -- or not? Need I say more? Of course then the HKC Jaipur people became disciples of "the ritviks are slimy poison snakes" program, because they are all on the same page. But yeah, they are not actual ritviks.

ys pd    

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IRAN IS A MESS

PADA: Yeah one patriot missile can only be built -- one time -- in a day, and we are using up to 250 a day in Iran, so we are creating a huge shortage of our own supplies. Thad anti-aircraft missiles supplies are even worse, a few made per month. So yeah, our plan to totally deplete our military is working out good, for our opponents. 

Iran is using $15,00 drones to make us use multi-million counter anti-drones, so they are basically draining our resources down, and it is working good for them. The Russians are also supplying Iran with weapons, so their weapons are getting better. 

Dick Cheney said this Iran problem can only be fixed with 500,000 soldiers on the ground, but better is 1,000,000 boots. Iran is 1 and 1/2 the size of California, lots of boots would be needed. I don't think we have sent in 2 boots in so far? In any case we are a long way from getting 1M boots there, so it is more or less a stalemate unless we get our act together. 

The commander in charge of all this said -- we are going to bomb the effing sh*t out of the Iranians. Great plan, then they bomb the effing sh*t out of the entire gulf area and then millions of people will have no power, water and no desalinized plants. And the oil production will be destroyed. There will be a giant humanitarian crisis of people dying of no water. That is the plan? That is what I thought was the plan!

ys pd

 

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Nimāi Nitāi Dāsa

July 25

Are Śrīla Prabhupāda’s Edited Books Really “Poison”? 

A Philosophical Examination

The discussion surrounding Śrīla Prabhupāda’s edited books has become increasingly polarized. Many devotees rightly desire to preserve the original editions. However, some have gone further and concluded that the edited books are spiritually “poison,” incapable of producing genuine devotees.

Below is a message sent to one devotee who sees post '77 books as poison:

Hare Kṛṣṇa Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda!

I am replying on behalf of the ISKM management and His Grace Sundar Gopāla Prabhu. Our understanding of this issue is based on guru, śāstra and sādhu.
We shall answer for the benefit of those who may have doubts.

The issue is not “accept every edit” or “reject every edited book.” One may reject unauthorized edits while still accepting that the remaining unchanged teachings retain their transcendental potency.

The essence of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original books is the original siddhānta. The wording serves to convey that siddhānta, but it is the siddhānta that must never be changed.

You stated that “anything after 1977 is not authorised.” That is not entirely accurate. The changes themselves were not authorized, but the vast majority of those changes consist of synonyms, grammar, punctuation and stylistic alterations.

You quoted one dangerous change yesterday:

“Even if one thinks that there are many pseudo devotees or nondevotees in the Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society, still one should stick to the Society.”

The last part of that sentence was indeed added. There are a few other changes of that nature which suggest a particular agenda. We ourselves pointed out one in our video concerning the ṛtvik system, found in the introduction to the Caitanya-caritāmṛta.

Such changes cannot spoil all of the remaining nectar found throughout Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books, for knowledge about Kṛṣṇa is nondifferent from Him.

“By our material calculation we see a difference between the name and the substance, but in the spiritual world the Absolute is always absolute: the name, form, qualities and pastimes of the Absolute are all as good as the Absolute Himself.”

— Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Ādi-līlā 8.16, Purport

I copied the above quotation from an edited edition of the Caitanya-caritāmṛta. Has it now become poison simply because of the edition from which it was copied?

To maintain such a conclusion requires an additional unsupported assumption. In logic this is called an ad hoc hypothesis.

For example:

Claim: “All swans are white.”

Counterexample: “Here is a black swan.”

Ad hoc response: “Black swans don’t count because they are spiritually white.”

Likewise, your position requires another unsupported assumption: devotees who came to Kṛṣṇa consciousness through the edited books must somehow be less sincere.

Where does Śrīla Prabhupāda teach that Kṛṣṇa measures sincerity by which edition of a book someone happens to receive?

You asked:

“What kind of devotees are they making?”

You first have to prove that sincere devotees cannot come through the edited books. Otherwise, saying that they must be inferior devotees is simply an unsupported assumption.

Our position requires no additional theories; The books contain unauthorized edits. Many of those edits should be corrected. The philosophy remains substantially intact. Kṛṣṇa reciprocates with sincerity.

Your position also requires another unsupported assumption—that Kṛṣṇa deliberately withholds the original books from sincere souls.

Where did Śrīla Prabhupāda teach that?

The existence of unauthorized edits does not logically entail that the books are spiritually poisonous.

Śrīla Prabhupāda writes:

“The transcendental subject matter of Vedic literature is still spiritually potent despite the crudest translation; still, because we have the facility to make it perfect, that is our philosophy.”

— Letter to Haṁsadūta, Jaipur, 20 January 1972

Notice what Śrīla Prabhupāda says. He says we should strive for perfection, correct mistakes and avoid printing errors. He does not say that such mistakes render transcendental literature spiritually useless.

On the contrary, he says the subject matter remains spiritually potent.

If the crudest translation remains spiritually potent, how can a translation containing mostly synonym and grammatical changes become spiritually poisonous?

Likewise, Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.5.11 states:

“Such transcendental literatures, even though imperfectly composed, are heard, sung and accepted by purified men who are thoroughly honest.”

In the purport, Śrīla Prabhupāda writes:

“After all, it is a technical science of spiritual values, and thus we are concerned with the techniques and not with the language. If the techniques of this great literature are understood by the people of the world, there will be success.”

This shows that the faithful application of the philosophy is what must be preserved. Language is the vehicle; siddhānta is the destination.

Suppose someone changes “must” to “should.” That is an editorial change.

Suppose someone changes “Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead” into “the impersonal Brahman is supreme.” That is a change of siddhānta.

These two are not remotely equivalent.

Likewise, suppose one edition says, “Always remember Kṛṣṇa,” and another says, “Constantly remember Kṛṣṇa.” The wording differs, but the siddhānta remains unchanged.

The essence of “As It Is” is not every English synonym.

The essence of “As It Is” is the faithful transmission of siddhānta.

You repeatedly state that there are thousands of changes. Whether there are ten changes or ten thousand changes is not the issue. The real question is whether those changes have altered the fundamental siddhānta of Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavism. Quantity alone is not proof.

Please distinguish between changes in English wording and changes in siddhānta. Can you demonstrate that the latter exist on a scale sufficient to justify calling the books “poison”?

Śrīla Prabhupāda himself made this distinction:

“So the verses of Bhagavad-gītā are so simple that there is no question of interpretation. Unfortunately, I have seen that in Bhagavad-gītā commented by a great scholar like Dr. Radhakrishnan, the verse is translated very nicely, and that is done by an Englishman, but he interprets in a different way.”

— Interview, Los Angeles, February 12, 1969

Śrīla Prabhupāda used Dr. Radhakrishnan’s translation while preaching in the beginning of the movement. In fact, some of the translations found in the 1972 Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, such as Bhagavad-gītā 3.43, are taken from that translation. His objection was not to the English wording but to the philosophical interpretation.

Likewise, Śrīla Prabhupāda wrote:

“English translation of Caitanya-caritāmṛta by Nogen Roy have been seen by me. There is no commentary and therefore it can be read. Anyway there is no harm reading simply the translation.”

— Letter to Rayarama (Satsvarūpa), San Francisco, March 30, 1967

From this we can understand that simply reading a translation is not the issue. The real danger lies in philosophical deviation, not in every difference of wording.

You state that “the philosophy has changed considerably.”

The burden of proof therefore rests upon you. Please demonstrate changes in the fundamental siddhānta of Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavism, rather than merely differences in wording.

You also state that by reading an edited book, using an app, or visiting a website maintained by those who have acted improperly, one “will certainly take on unwanted karma.”

I respectfully ask: where does Śrīla Prabhupāda teach this?

This conclusion overlooks one of the most fundamental principles of bhakti—that Kṛṣṇa is a person who actively reciprocates with the sincerity of His devotees, bhāva-grāhī janārdana.

We are not dealing with an impersonal machine where the result is produced merely by the external wording on a page. We are dealing with Śrī Kṛṣṇa, who resides within everyone’s heart as Paramātmā and reveals Himself to sincere souls.

Kṛṣṇa says:

teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam

dadāmi buddhi-yogaṁ taṁ yena mām upayānti te

To those who are constantly devoted to serving Me with love, I give the understanding by which they can come to Me.

mattaḥ smṛtir jñānam apohanaṁ ca

I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness.

Even if some tinge of fault were present, why should we believe that Kṛṣṇa would be unkind, uncondescending, or partial in bestowing His mercy upon a sincere soul who genuinely desires to serve Him?

Characteristically, the Supreme Personality of Godhead does not take seriously an offense committed by a pure devotee. The Lord accepts whatever small service a devotee renders as being such a great service that He is prepared to give even Himself, not to speak of other benedictions.

-CC Antya.1.107

If the Lord overlooks even offenses committed by His sincere devotees, why should we conclude that He would refuse to reveal Himself to a sincere soul simply because that person happened to receive an edition containing unauthorized edits? Such a conclusion places greater emphasis on external circumstances than on Kṛṣṇa’s personal mercy and reciprocation.

You mention “what is the qualification of these men you are defending, homosexuals, murderers…”

as though defending the transcendental potency of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books means defending those individuals.

These are two entirely different issues.

A person’s misconduct does not logically determine whether every sentence in an edited book has lost its spiritual potency.

Yet Śrīla Prabhupāda never taught such a principle.

On the contrary, he approved reading books written by devotees with whom he had serious disagreements. Regarding his Godbrother Rāghava Caitanya dāsa, who had deviated from the order of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, Śrīla Prabhupāda was asked whether his book The Divine Name could be read.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: “It’s called The Divine Name. It is by one of your Godbrothers.”

Prabhupāda: “Oh yes.”

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: “Is it all right to read it?”

Prabhupāda: “Oh yes. There are some discrepancies, but, on the whole, it is nice… Yes, Rāghava Caitanya. Yes, he was my Godbrother… Oh. That’s good. That’s nice.”

-Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamāla Kṛṣṇa—August 4, 1969, Los Angeles

Likewise, if a devotee falls from devotional service, it does not follow that every book he edited has become spiritually poisonous.

We judge each edit on its own merits.

You also imply that we are turning a blind eye to this issue. That is simply not true.

ISKM Montreal has already printed 3,000 copies of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original French books. We have attempted to obtain original English editions through Krishna Store, but they are no longer printing them. We are also having discussions regarding printing originals in China. We are also developing an application containing the original editions.

Most importantly, we continue preaching.

The priority should be to train sincere devotees who understand this issue properly. As ISKM expands, so will the opportunity to restore and print the original editions on a larger scale.

Until then, preaching cannot stop simply because original English books are not readily available.

Our duty is to continue giving Kṛṣṇa consciousness while simultaneously working toward preserving Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original editions.

We are not choosing between preserving Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books and preaching. We are doing both according to our present capacity.

I sincerely hope you can see where your philosophical conclusion differs from Śrīla Prabhupāda's teachings, as demonstrated above. I also pray that you may kindly take the association of the devotees in ISKM, rather than relying primarily on articles and opinions scattered across the internet.

By Kṛṣṇa's mercy, His Grace Sundar Gopāla Prabhu has trained hundreds of devotees who are actively pushing forward Śrīla Prabhupāda's movement As It Is, despite having very limited resources, having no financial scale like ISKCON, and often facing strong opposition.

I say this from personal experience. Before taking the association of His Grace Sundar Gopāla Prabhu, I also misunderstood this issue. Through his guidance, my understanding gradually changed. Therefore, my sincere prayer is that no one develops the same fault-finding mentality that I once had, but instead learns to appreciate the sincerity of devotees while simultaneously working to preserve Śrīla Prabhupāda's legacy in the proper spirit.

Hare Kṛṣṇa!

All Glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda!

Your servant,

Nimāi Nitāi dāsa

JP: We can examine the core arguments through the lens of Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava siddhānta, śāstra, and the specific instructions of Śrīla Prabhupāda. The Distinction Between Awakening Faith and Achieving Perfection (Śraddhā vs. Dīkṣā)

The changed books can spark a genuine seeker's interest and awaken initial faith (śraddhā), but spiritual perfection requires taking shelter of a bona fide guru who initiates or binds himself to delivering the seeker and the seeker into a path which will deliver the seeker at a ceremony with vows.

In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (1.5.11), it is noted that even imperfectly composed transcendental literatures are heard and accepted by purified men because they speak of the Supreme Lord. However, the Bhāgavatam (11.3.21) explicitly mandates—

tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam "Anyone who is seriously desirous of real happiness must seek out a bona fide spiritual master and take shelter of him by initiation."

The changed books act as the initial medium to awaken the dormant soul, but Kṛṣṇa consciousness is a science of paramparā (disciplic succession). A book alone—especially one with unauthorized alterations—cannot substitute for the living guidance of a bona fide spiritual master who properly represents the siddhānta.

The Vāṇī (sound vibration/instructions) of the pure devotee is more prominent than vapuḥ (physical association), and that original, uncompromised books offer the Vāṇī "as-it-is, the Guru living in sound vibration. Śrīla Prabhupāda always stressed and established the principle of Vāṇī over Vapuḥ during his final days, emphasizing that his presence would always be felt through his instructions in his books and lectures.

When unauthorized editors alter the text to fit institutional or personal agendas, they risk substituting the pure Vāṇī ( the sound acharya) of the ācārya with human speculation, the acharya is lost but the siddhantas ethics etc remain to guide even they become adulterated. While a sincere soul can still extract devotional sentiment (bhāva) from the remnants of truth, the unadulterated Vāṇī provides the exact, undiluted medicinal potency required to cut through material illusion and situate himself perfectly and in purity of the Vani guru.

The Danger of Unauthorized Authority and Guru-Imposture or individuals posing as gurus—stealing the śikṣā of the bona fide guru and usurping the position of dīkṣā—directly addresses a major historical deviation within the post-1977 movement (premature guru systems).

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (6.1.40) and various Vaiṣṇava texts warn against accepting unqualified or unauthorized spiritual guides who deviate from the authorized disciplic stream.

Impostors who exploit a spiritual movement or misappropriate the legacy of the pure ācārya for personal prestige place themselves and their followers in a perilous spiritual position. True shelter must be taken in a bona fide representative of Kṛṣṇa, not someone who merely leverages an edited platform or institutional title without authentic spiritual realization.

I don’t dismiss sincere devotees who came through edited books, and acknowledge that Kṛṣṇa reciprocates with the sincere seeker's heart (bhāva-grāhī janārdana). But I insist that medium matters, because the ultimate goal is complete surrender to Kṛṣṇa under the guidance of a bona fide guru through unadulterated knowledge given specifically by the bona fide guru which makes him responsible for delivering the soul.

Why does Krishna need to come again and again in the material realm? ( BG 4:7-8 ) When people forget the path of righteousness or the path become compromised and corrupted — He appears in every millennium to REESTABLISH the path. So how the paths get compromised corrupted or lost ?. It happens by whimsical misrepresentation interpretation of Krishna and his pure devotee, the Acharya’s word who endeavor to keep the DHARMA INTACT.

In the last paragraph, a sane person can see why the changed books, even a changed comma is not favored because this sets the precedence of corruption of DHARMA. Now ask yourselves what is right and wrong…, even utilizing these changed books is sin and becoming a party with corrupters of the Acharya’s words. Corrupting the Srila Prabhupada’s books is same as corrupting Krishna’s Bhagvata Gita.

SD: Haribol well said prabhu! All glories to Srila Prabhupada

JT: Srila Prabhupada's books were his life and soul. He gave so many warnings not to change anything. This offence of changing his books is the most grievous. It is even worse than poisoning him. Now after killing his vapu, then outlawing taking diksha from him, now they are trying to erase his vani form. 

The book change issue is the most important as these changes will continue and once they are gone they are gone and the parampara is lost. Stand up and defend Prabhupada's books. There is a court case taking place right now after the asuras tried to have websites with digitalized original books taken down. Changing the Acharya's books which he so painstakingly came to give us, is the most wicked offence. It is even more wicked than the abuse taking place. It's that serious.

KS: very well said prabhu. JAYA JAYA SRILA PRABHUPADA 🙏❤️🙏

JT: On the principle that we don't hear the Mahamantra being chanted by an offensive person, because milk touched by the lips of a serpent has poisonous effects, so also have the pages of Srila Prabhupada's books now been tainted with Jayadvaita's poison.

As just one example of this, we can look at BG 6.31.

ORIGINAL:

"The yogī who knows that I and the Supersoul within all creatures are one worships Me and remains always in Me in all circumstances."

CHANGED:

"Such a yogī, who engages in the worshipful service of the Supersoul, knowing that I and the Supersoul are one, remains always in Me in all circumstances."

That's a massive change, and one that takes the reader away from personal worship of Bhagavan Sri Krishna, and directs them toward worship of Paramatma instead.

So while there may still be some potency in the unchanged parts of the books, there are also poison and misconceptions that are delivered in the same spoonful.

KS: HDG SRILA PRABHUPADA,S WORDS ARE DIVINE.They can’t be mixed with material words . HARI BOL🙏

Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.5.11, Purport): Prabhupada noted that transcendental literature presented even with broken language or grammatical flaws is still adored by saintly persons because it glorifies the Supreme Lord, cautioning against artificial amendments by external mental speculators