CONVERSATION ABOUT JAYATIRTHA / RAMESVARA / HARIKESHA / SRIDHARA / NARAYAN etc. 07 12 26

Battle For The Control of ISKCON

CONVERSATION ABOUT JAYATIRTHA / RAMESVARA / HARIKESHA / SRIDHARA & NARAYAN MAHARAJA

MC: I am curious about Jaya Tirtha. Was he the real monkey on a stick, in the sense that he had to be made an example of? In ‘Notes From A Pilgrim’, he appears to be on the brink of spilling the beans (ie. the secrets of the corrupt ISKCON GBC leadership). Seems like he had to be silenced. His assassination bears all the hallmarks of an MKUltra hit, with the crazed killer claiming he was the Antichrist.

[PADA: Yes, Jayatirtha later on said (or implied) that the other GBC were dangerous thugs who were coming after him. Maybe they would kill him? Great, so why did he say that he -- and these other 10 GBCs were all "Krishna's appointed guru successors" -- if he knew all along they were conditioned souls, if not dangerous thugs? And in any case, they were unqualified to be gurus? Jayatirtha was totally in support of the "appointed 11 gurus" process right out of the gate. 

And Kirtanananda said the same type things later on, the other GBC gurus are against me -- they are out to get me etc.; And Hansadutta said the same thing, that the other GBC gurus are against me; And Harikesha said the same thing, the other GBC gurus are against me -- and giving me bad vibhuti to make me go crazy, and so on. So each of them was playing the victim card to get sympathy from their individual followers to increase their personal guru cults. All the other gurus are evil thugs, but not me!

This way, no one could be trusted except your own personal GBC guru, and that means the other GBCs / other gurus are not trustworthy. This is how they made their own individual personal cults prosper and grow. Its part of how mind control tricks are used in cults. You cannot trust the GBC, only me, your ONLY guru.

That also means Jayatirtha knew the whole while that he and the others from the 11 are not, were not, could not have been acharyas. So he went along with their cheating guru charade to get a seat in their crooked assembly, self-evidently because he wanted the glorious "guru post" that the vicious assembly could give him.

Other GBC's gurus privately admit things too from time to time, but what good is that when they conjointly founded the bogus appointed guru Frankenstein monster, a monster that they could not bring back into control once launched?

And then people like Satsvarupa, Narayan Maharaja and Rupanaga claim that there is going to be a "guru reform" to reign in and control their annointed false acharyas. Instead in 1986 they reinstated a homosexual pedophile as "Vishnupada" and made things way worse by annointing another group of annointed "acharyas." And they excommunicated Sulochana to make him a target for assassination. In short, Rupanuga's guru reform ended up re-establishing homosexuals and pedophiles as acharyas, and setting up the murder of us dissenters, and enabling more child molesting and a host of other crimes.]

KL: A long and complicated story. He was forced to take Sanyas by the GBC - he did not want to leave his wife - they were a perfect vaisnava couple. He was never suited or wanted sanyas. I could tell you the tale leading to his sad death and the characters involved but would take a few volumes and weeks!

[PADA: None of us were forced to follow the bogus GBC. We could either leave or stay with them. We left and JT stayed with them, that's his own doing.]

KD: JT was soft hearted and never able to hack the institution and GBC control when he realised what was happening as he wanted loving organic relationships with people and vaisnavas from the heart and respect for all faiths etc but he never stopped chanting, reading, writing, serving and was so kind that sometimes he was blind to the fact that some of his biggest enemies were those closest to him.

He had a more controversial shamanic nature in the 80s. However he was never a pedophile, child and women abuser, control freak, murderer etc as the others mentioned and in fact for all his unique nature was a real, rare gentleman. He was another big Iskcon casualty in a way but never stopped loving Srila Prabhupada. 

But it’s all too emotional, sad and complicated to try and summarise here .
The guy who murdered him! Yes who was he really? I suspected him right from the start when he was praised for bringing in so much money to enable him to get closer into the intimate circle. It was him who told JT disciples to go to India - not 

JT etc etc. Indeed who were the infiltrators who entered Iskcon?

Ever read the Jesuit / Zionist /secret society vows!!? Anyway I did wonder that maybe he had been assigned to JT and when he could no longer trail him or be in his realm of influence murdered him by beheading, which besides poisoning, is the preferred assassination by these sly coverts!

[PADA: Beheading is not sly or covert, it implies that the murderer had seen enough garbage going on and he felt he had a duty to stop it, since he had been part of building it up. Its a crime of anger, passion, rage, not like a subtle plot over time. Navanita perhaps realized he had helped create a Frankenstein monster, which was harmful, and he wanted to rectify his mistake. 

His solution is not recommended, better to preach and help people understand things. Of course we would argue that Jayatirtha's guru sabha had poisoned Srila Prabhupada, so he was now promoting the killers of pure devotees as his co-messiahs, and the karma for that would be extreme. Nevermind all the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders going on full tilt everywhere else.]

KD: May never know for sure ... . JT definitely knew first hand of the "dangerous drug GBC” as he said but was a victim to them too when he "had to leave as impossible to stay." I guess as he said, "this movement was meant to be run on love and not rules and regulations!" We knew exactly what he was saying in our hearts. It’s all pieces of the jigsaw puzzle ! I think JT “Tirthapada’ was more courageous than we will ever know!

[PADA: Jayatirtha is the dangerous drug GBC, and he is promoting drugs to boot.]

PP: I think we need a small version written out, otherwise you only ever get small glimpses of the story and they are very small, like LSD, Rishikesha tripping ashram etc. You must have known Caitanya Candra from OZ but lived in England in those days. He was at the Rishikesa ashram. Anyway when no one tells the inside story we only ever know the propaganda lies.

ML: For sure they did something to Harikesa Swami ... in some classes in Russia he was asking for help .... he was getting the things done properly in Mayapur ... some black magic, for what I was told.

GD: His case is very sad. He did not want to take sanyas and leave his wonderful wife and small son. It was forced on him by the others, the “Big Boyz” and he went mad on account of this. Similarly, this was forced on some of the others — even Rameshvar, yes, he is cunning, but he TRIED to end it early on.

I am eye witness, Ramesvara gave lectures in LA and Laguna, saying he was not fit to be a guru, Prabhupada is the only guru, and the Big Boyz threatened to ex-communicate him, and he was in the middle of printing Prabhupada’s books in La. (ORIGINAL books, this is before they got in there and changed them.)

He even had his Vyas asana dragged out of the LA temple, also laguna and Hawaii. But he fell victim to their power, and fell to the lowest ebb due to the virulent aparadha by this association. However, please note that he has not suffered as much, he still wants to be a devotee and loves Prabhupada, and is trying to make amends to those he hurt. He isn't as crazy or as dead as the others.

PP: Who were the main big boyz threatening the others to toe the line? We even see Tamal Krishna throwing in the towel with their game when they tried to censure him. I would have thought TKG was the main antagonist yet it seems others were more powerful.

Then we had the whole group of them seeking the higher association of Srila Narayana Maharaja, yet they too were forced to disown him which meant they too created great apparadha by turning their backs on such a vaisnava and speaking bad words even about him. If we knew who were the top of this pyramid scheme.

I only knew Harikesa briefly in Sweden after we left Vrindavan due to the massive heartbreak of having the GBC / Gurus enter in 79 so they could claim Vrindavna temple as their own, rather than a special place just for Srila Prabhupadada as we who were there in 78, wanted. We didn't want their big Vyasana to move into such a sacred temple but GBC gurus would have none of that, they wanted their BIG chairs and that's what they did for quite a few years. Those stupid vyasanas all lined up. Anyway we went to Stockholm with Vegavan.

Harikesa was now their guru. He was kinda crazy then. He would stay locked up in his room playing his saxaphone and complaining about seeing ghosts. Maybe the reality was that he and others on their group were really just snorting cocaine or taking LSD or other drugs.

ML: I remember the take over of the 11 gurus, I was in Vrindavana at the time. There has been a lot of use of black magic in Iskcon for maintaining the Vyasa-san and the power ... craziness usually is a symptom of an attack of black magic to the subtle body. I am not justifying Harikesha, but there was a reason to get rid of him, like Bhakti Tirtha, or Aindra Prabhu.

PADA: Jayatirtha's "peace Krishnas" came to the Berkeley temple and I was sitting out there chanting japa and they said, "There is that guy Puranjan, lets beat the stuffing out of that ***hole." Ooops, a Hansadutta person overheard that and he ran into the temple and rang the bell and he yelled, "Everyone outside." OK there was only maybe six of them, but they told the Jayatirtha people, "we don't like Puranjan, but we like you less. so we will defend him, and although there is more than 100 of you and only a few of us, we have the guns."

That is how I was saved from the "peace Krishnas." I once told Jayatirtha he is not another Jesus and he cannot take sins, and later when he passed by me -- he sucked my life airs out, he was covered with a huge ball of sins around him. Very sinful man, a giant ball of sins in fact. ys pd

KL: Jayatirtha never said he was Jesus etc and it was his entourage facilitating this illusion for their own little control and power games . When I questioned JT in Canada 87 and told him what "his followers" were saying about him and said "so who are you?" He said he was a disciple of Srila Prabhupada and not a very good one unfortunately.

So you are another bitter and twisted soul it seems who is committing so much offences and vaisnava aparada to Srila Narayana Maha and S Sridhara M and to S Prabupada by your offensive nature which may have been influenced by all the lies and chinese whispers passed down unfortunately in ISKCON. S Prabhupada's International Krsna society could and should never be limited to an institution. Taking some sacrement (LSD) and chanting ecstatically is the other anarchistic end of the spectrum but can not be compared to GBC, teachers, sanayasis that were sexually abusing tiny children. WTFU.

PADA: Sorry! Jayatirtha HAD said MANY TIMES that he is a diksha guru, i.e. a person who can absorb sins like Jesus. When he was falling down his disciples were praying to save him from falling due to his "taking our sins." Self-evidently he was being advertised as a person who can absorb sins because they were thinking he is falling from taking their sins.

Other GBC followers pray for their guru's taking their sins as well? When Jayatirtha passed by me on a narrow stairways, he knocked my breath out. The giant ball of sins surrounding him on the subtle plane was causing a disturbance to my life airs. Srila Prabhupada also told us if we neophytes become diksha gurus and take sins we will fall down, get sick or both.

Many of them died. Jayatirtha was abusing children by telling them they have to worship him and the other 11 ship of fools people. What kind of "good person" tells children to worship homosexuals and pedophiles as their eternal link to 
God? Jayatirtha is an extreme deviant for doing these type things.

That is child abuse, to make children worship pedophiles and conditioned souls and LSD hounds as their messiahs. And so on. And Jayatirtha was telling everyone they had to work with the GBC, and so did Sridhara Maharaja and NM, and that is how the child abuse regime was enabled. 

Jayatirtha kicked me and my children out of ISKCON, he abused them by removing them from their home, and that was lucky because the children who stayed with his GBC guru program were treated terribly. Those of us who opposed their molester program were booted out by people like JT. That empowered and enabled the molester's program. ys pd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mtL3HG-2W0

KKD: Allow me to describe what goes through the minds of disciples once their guru is officially declared a ‘pure devotee’ as Jayatirtha Dasa and the zonal acaryas were.

Bear in mind that this is before disciple courses, before guru fall downs and guru services committees.

In my interactions with some fellow Jayatirtha disciples, the talk would be that if someone were to cut off his arm for example, he wouldn’t know about it because he’s totally off the bodily platform. If the weather at a Ratha-yatra festival was unpleasant, it was thought that he could change the weather for the better by his presence.

One morning during a Srimad Bhagavatam class which Jayatirtha gave at Chaitanya College, he had a bad cold and blew his nose on tissue and set the tissue aside. A disciple sitting at the front grabbed some snot-laden tissue and put it in his kirta pocket. He looked around as if to announce how lucky he was to have gotten such ‘mercy.’ I never knew what he did with his prize.

Because the ‘pure devotee’ label had stuck with Jayatirtha’s disciples, he could do no wrong in their eyes, even if he did. For instance, at a later time after he left ISKCON, his number of disciples whittled down. If the ‘pure devotee’ took intoxication, again he can never do wrong. Indeed, the intoxicating substance consumed was called the dust from the lotus feet of Srimati Radharani.

It’s dangerous to place a ‘pure devotee’ label on any work in progress guru. If the guru can do no wrong, fanatical disciples will continue to worship a fallen guru even after the guru commits crimes such as child-abuse and so on. Is this phenomenon going on today still?

In all of this, a sign to look out for is the ‘pure devotee’ label. It can justify nonsense and wrongdoing. An obviously fallen guru with a ‘pure devotee’ label will have his or her fall down considered as a mysterious lila pastime with the Lord.
If the above sounds weird and strange to you, it is what happens when the ‘pure devotee’ label is used so cheaply. Does it occur to us that applying the ‘pure devotee’ label so randomly is also weird and strange behaviour? How often does it happen? If we stop labelling devotees so quickly as ‘pure devotees,’ it might reduce the weird things we get up to.

Ys Kesava Krsna Dasa.

Rupanuga's New Plan To Halt All Book Distribution 07 11 26

CHRIST AND THE INITIATIONS IN ISKCON ‒ Rūpānuga Dāsa (ACBSP) YouTube Interview 2026

Host: I know you brought this up. I was looking at some of your letters that you had written, that I gleaned from the last many years. And this, I guess, would bring us to the next subject, on initiations.

I do not know if you want to speak more on this subject. But, for instance, if their guru falls down, if they have lost faith in the system or whatnot — and there was a quote that you mentioned about Prabhupāda saying, devotees distributing books, and what if they never come in contact with devotees after that? And Prabhupāda stated, “If they have just read my books, I consider them initiated,” something like that.

Maybe you can expand on that. And again, I am not meaning to intentionally go away from the subject we were just speaking about, but it was kind of a segue based on what you said about Prabhupāda.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: It did not matter one way or the other. It is not affecting Prabhupāda’s position. He said, “If they are reading my books, they are initiated.”

PADA: OK this is the ritvik idea, the initiation comes from the higher plane, or the pure devotee. And the pure devotee is speaking through his vani, or words, or books. Moreover a conditioned soul cannot give pure divyam jnanam or destroy sins, that is not possible. So the divyam jnanam -- which destroys sins -- has to come from the higher plane. 

Host: Wow.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: See, that has nothing to do with ISKCON, that statement.

PADA: Sorry -- this has everything to do with ISKCON since ISKCON, under Rupanuga's guidance and help, has been worshiping deviants, if not illicit sex with men, women and children debauchees -- as God's successors and diksha gurus. And in 1986 Rupanuga went against me and Sulochana and he sided with Kirtanananda being ISKCON's main prominent acharya. 

Never mind me and Sulochana said Kirtanananda is a homosexual and apparently, a pedophile. Did I forget to mention Rupanuga's messiah from heaven was allegedly "rubbing his genitals on cats" -- when Rupanuga was defending Kirtanananda as a pure devotee? How were Rupanuga's acharyas pure devotees, when they could not even follow the basic sadhana program for a new bhakta? 

Host: Yes.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Because one can be initiated and not be a member of ISKCON. Especially these days, there are so many persons who are initiating. I think the best thing to deal with these kinds of controversies is to say what Śrīla Prabhupāda said himself: “Anyone who reads my books is initiated.”

That does not say that initiation must be there. Initiation is not required to read Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books. Initiation is a formal thing.

And my opinion is that the movement has moved beyond that. And my opinion is that the movement has become more of a localized affair — perfection at home.
People can reach perfection in their own homes, with their own families, without even belonging to ISKCON or belonging to an ISKCON temple, but simply by believing in Śrīla Prabhupāda’s words and associating with him through his books.

PADA: OK Rupanuga's original plan was to make conditioned souls into institutionalized acharyas -- which created a giant backfired backlash of banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders. But now all of a sudden -- there is no need for these figurehead conditioned souls gurus and falling down acharyas. Just read the books at home.

That means de facto -- Rupanuga's conditioned souls / if not pedophile gurus have made official ISKCON into a child molesting / dysfunctional / bankrupted / discredited / bad public image / ghost town. Oh well -- we did not need any official ISKCON organization after all, just read the books in your house. 

Wait? Who will print and distribute the books once Rupanuga's bad guru's scheme dismantles the organization that prints and distributes the books? And who will train people in the process of devotional service without any formal structure. 

And who will regulate the system of deity offerings, train people in deity worship, samkirtan, devotional standards, and so on, with no organized or functioning system to train folks in the process of deity pooja, offerings, samkirtana and etc.? 

Host: So when you say “the movement,” you are talking about the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement as different from ISKCON?

Rūpānuga Dāsa: The Hare Kṛṣṇa movement was started by Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu five hundred years ago in India. That is the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement. ISKCON is not the beginning of the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement. It has been around for a long time. ISKCON was a way Śrīla Prabhupāda devised to get the books distributed. The whole point was to distribute the knowledge. He said, initiation or not, the real point is knowledge.

PADA: One of the main functions of ISKCON is to get the knowledge out, and train people in the knowledge. Yet now the process made by Srila Prabhupada -- of getting the knowledge out -- has been dismantled. What replaces his program? I fail to see any large scale book distribution, making devotees, deity program training and so on -- going on (except for the fledgling small scale ritviks). 

ISKCON temples are ghost towns. And the standards of some of these Jayapataka Bengali poojaris and cooks is less than stellar -- or pretty abysmal -- lets just say. And now some of those Bengali poojari guys are having problems getting their Visas thanks to MAGA. This was never going to work long term, it is all duck tape and band aids. There was never any plan for what happens when ISKCON becomes a "dead zone" ghost town. 

Host: In his— I think it is in the ten-point statements of his mission — to create an environment for people to come together and hear and chant the names of God, and hear the transcendental knowledge. So there was a purpose, there is a purpose to the society, and we cannot negate the fact that Prabhupāda said, “ISKCON is my body.”

But Prabhupāda also said in one of the purports — correct me if I am wrong — that if one has problems, and I am paraphrasing, with the institution, then one can fully take shelter of the spiritual master.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Yes, he said that. One is not bound by the membership. They do not have to be a member of ISKCON to understand the books, or to follow Śrīla Prabhupāda’s instructions. And I think that is happening.

PADA: First of all Rupanuga never explains how these books will magically appear in people's houses. And how will they will be inspired to read and follow these books. Almost every devotee -- who became a devotee -- either: saw the samkirtana party program, got a book placed into their hands by a devotee, were preached to by a devotee, knew a devotee, visited a temple -- and so on. 

The main process of making other people into devotees was being done by the devotees of ISKCON. If we dismantle ISKCON, we kill off, choke off, if not fully eliminate, the main process of spreading the teachings. Or as one devotee tells PADA, "they poisoned the founder, and then ISKCON, and made it into a dead zone, so the preaching could be erased from the planet, because they do not want people to worship Krishna. They are asuras."     

Host: So you were saying that by reading Prabhupāda’s books, Śrīla Prabhupāda said that those who read his books were initiated. So it is a little different from the nomenclature of dīkṣā initiation, but it means their spiritual life has started. Is that what you are saying?

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Yes.

Host: Okay. Now, you were there in 1977, and you were there at the May 28th conversation. So if you can share your realizations from that time — how Prabhupāda wanted initiations to continue in his absence — because you were there at that time.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda said initiation is not the point. It is reading the books, believing in the books — that is initiation. He emphasized books because he knew he was not going to be here forever. So he wrote a tremendous number of books. I mean, I was just counting; I cannot even— There is a long list of books. And they were all published, and they were distributed.

In the course of time, in my opinion, they may have been overly edited as a pastime — just to keep people busy, whatever it is. But I think that happened.

Host: That is a nice way to put it — the nicest way you can put it.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: That is.

Host: But at the same time, you were there when Prabhupāda was asked by Satsvarūpa — Swami at the time, still Swami — “We have some questions to ask about how initiations will continue in your absence, specifically when you are no longer with us.”

Prabhupāda gave some specific instructions. They have been seen from different vantage points since that time. But you were there. In other words, one is not dependent on the institution for these things, but Prabhupāda did give some specific guidelines. And you were there at that time. You were very fortunate to be there. 

Because I remember you telling me — we have talked about this a few times — were you in the room when Satsvarūpa was asking? Or were you outside the room when he came out during that time, that May 28th?

Rūpānuga Dāsa: I do not remember.

Host: You were in the room.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: I was in the room.

Host: We have spoken about this, and you were relating how Prabhupāda covered the answers to these questions, and how initiations will go on — “disciple of my disciple,” “grand disciple,” etc. So what is your understanding of that?

Rūpānuga Dāsa: My understanding is that the ritvik thing is nonsense.

Host: Okay.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Because ritvik says that someone can actually believe or assume that they can initiate someone to Śrīla Prabhupāda, and he is a past ācārya.
He taught us in the very beginning: you cannot be initiated to a past ācārya. Bas, finished. And now he is a past ācārya.

PADA: Srila Prabhupada never said we cannot worship him as acharya now or later on. We made murtis of him to be worshiped after he departed. The May tape also says initiations in the future, when he is not here, will be conducted BY RITVIKS. Oddly, Rupanuga says "I don't remember" this conversation. Handy!

But evidently, at least according to Rupanuga, Srila Prahbupada always said we can only worship Rupanuga's Mott Street boy / homosexual / pedophile pals who will orchestrate banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing us. Rupanuga never explains why he thought his Mott Street boy pals were going to be worshiped as acharyas? Did he not know that homosexual pedophiles and Srila Prabhupada are not equals? He never explains. 

Unfortunately, what happened is -- Rupanuga said -- Srila Prabhupada is no longer the acharya, so Rupanuga annointed his homosexual and pedophile pals as the acharyas. Where was the order to do that? Rupanuga's homosexual and pedophile guru scheme created thousands of cases of child molesting, crimes of all types, including murders, because he juxtaposed pedophiles with Krishna's successors. 

Meanwhile Rupanuga says a book is the initiation, but we cannot connect others to a past acharya. Thus no one can give another person a book, because that would connect them to a past acharya. So now, we cannot even give books to people, because that connects them to a past acharya, and that cannot be done. So now there is no system in place to save fallen souls. 

Notice how all this has shifted: first of all, we needed to connect people to Rupanuga's homosexual pedophile pal acharyas; 

then we needed to connect people to the books;

but now no one can give other people books because that connects them to a past acharya. 

OK so we just need to stop everything. Of course that is a vast improvement from the previous plan to get people to worship Rupanuga's homosexual pedophile pals.

1) Rupanuga's Mott Street boy pal homosexual pedophiles are the connection to Krishna.

2) Ooops! Books are the connection.

3) Ooops! But no one can connect others to a past acharya, so stop all book distribution.

4) Ooops! Therefore, after we stop all book distribution and connecting people to a past acharya. Thus! We are left with the GBC's homosexual and pedophile guru process doing all the preaching and representing of ISKCON. So it is always about preserving the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club in the end, and suppressing us -- the opposition. 

And thus stopping Prabhupada from being worshiped AT ALL, is it not? Yeah stop giving people books, that connects them to a departed acharya, it is a waste of time. I think this is also called atheist. 

Rupanuga has gone around in a big circle, he first of all promoted his homosexual and pedophile pals as acharyas, then he said we should just give people books, then he said, giving people books is a a waste of time since it connects people to a past acharya. That means the pedophile acharyas program wins by default since there is no alternate. 

Rupanuga is still promoting the GBC idea, DO NOT MAKE ANY PRABHUPADA DEVOTEES! He has not changed his basic idea from 1978, get rid of the people promoting Srila Prabhupada, and it has worked good for him and his ilk. "There is no use in worshiping a dead carcass," this is what they think of their spiritual master -- and Krishna, dead and gone. 

The good news is their homosexual and pedophile pals are living, thus they made "living" the qualification of guru, and if the gurus were sexual predators, so what? They did not even take the time and trouble to estimate if their living gurus were authorized.

Great, so now we are down to: sit down in a corner and stop, so the pedophile messiah's club goes forward with no opposition. Told ya! ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

Atulananda Departs / Ramesvara / ISKCON Mission Siege 07 10 26

ATULANANDA DEPARTS

PADA: Atulananda was originally working with Sridhara Maharaja and Paramadvaiti swami. Later on Paramadvaiti was connected to scandals with various female followers. Atulananda then broke away and formed a separated group. 

Of course they all follow Sridhara Maharaja, the founder father of post 1937 bi-sexual Gaudiya Matha bogus acharya Ananta Vasuedva, and post 1997 cheer leader of the GBC's homosexual pedophile messiah's club. These guys never really understood the siddhanta. 

Anyway they are now going to have some big festival to honor his departure. For some odd reason, these guys always mix up Radha, Krishna, the gopi lovers of Krishna, and their illicit sex with men, women and children false acharyas. 

And when they are not authorizing other illicit sex acharyas, some of their own acharyas are illicit sex themselves. There was allegedly a photo on the internet of Paramadvaiti with a naked small girl on his lap. I dunno, if so -- why was he not arrested?  Basically, a guru who has sex with a follower, even a legal aged one, is like a pedophile. Srila Prabhupada says that, so they are producing pedophiles as acharyas left and right. That is not the system. Duh-oh!

People ask me all the time! Why are these guys never taken to task for their deviations, which harm others very badly? Yep. People write PADA on a regular basis, why aren't some of these guys behind bars in jail? Who knows, but Yamaraja has trillions of jail cells for these guys. Did I forget -- all the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders their false guru produce?

They just don't understand the shastra, illicit sex deviants are not, were not, could not have been -- God's successors. Having said all that, I wish him well in his next situation. God speed spirit soul! ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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RAMESVARA IMPLICATED

July 10, 1951: On this date in history 75 years ago, Robert Grant (later known as Ramesvara Swami) is born in a wealthy Jewish family and raised in the affluent village of Roslyn Estates in Nassau County, New York, on the North Shore of Long Island. He becomes an ISKCON guru and becomes involved in the conspiracy to murder Sulochan. He orders his ksatriya disciples to cooperate with the New Vrindaban hit men who are hunting Sulochan in his zone. He has denied that he had any involvement in the murder conspiracy, although his security-guard disciple who helped murderer Tirtha hunt for and find their victim claims otherwise. For more, see Killing For Krishna, p. 173.

http://henrydoktorski.com/Killing4Krishna.html

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Srila Prabhupada’s Mission Under Siege

(by Badarayana das – ACBSP)

What you are about to read is a Vyasa-puja offering written by Badarayana Prabhu in 2023. Before you do, however, we invite you to read why we believe this offering is well worth your time and careful consideration. If your deepest desire is to remain faithful to Srila Prabhupada’s original teachings and to protect the integrity of his mission, this Vyasa-puja offering deserves your careful attention. 

Whether or not you ultimately agree with every conclusion presented by the author, the questions raised are too important to dismiss without thoughtful consideration. The offering challenges readers to examine whether ISKCON has remained fully aligned with Srila Prabhupada’s instructions during a period of unprecedented social, political, technological, and ideological change.

One of the greatest lessons this text offers is the importance of balancing transcendental vision with practical intelligence. Srila Prabhupada repeatedly taught that devotees should not become absorbed in mundane politics. At the same time, he also instructed his followers to recognize and oppose influences that undermine God consciousness, spiritual culture, and genuine human values. This offering explores that apparent tension and asks how those instructions should be applied today. Readers will also be encouraged to reflect on several fundamental questions:

1) How should devotees distinguish genuine spiritual detachment from indifference toward serious threats affecting society and even ISKCON itself?

PADA: Indifference would be a great step forward. What we get all the time is, why is that PADA guy complaining about ISKCON's devotees being banned. beaten, molested, sued and killed? There is open opposition to fixing the ills of ISKCON, and it can get violent, and -- deadly -- for us whistle blowers. It is not indifference, it is open and vehement opposition to "doubters." 

2) What does it mean to defend Srila Prabhupada’s mission in an age of increasing ideological pressure, censorship, and institutional conformity?

3) How can devotees cultivate discrimination (viveka) without becoming influenced by fear, anger, or sectarianism?

4) What responsibilities do spiritual leaders and ordinary devotees have when confronting challenges that may affect future generations?

Perhaps the greatest value of this offering is that it invites devotees to think independently while measuring everything against Srila Prabhupada’s books, lectures, conversations, and personal example—not merely against prevailing institutional opinions or popular narratives. A sincere disciple does not fear honest inquiry. Srila Prabhupada repeatedly encouraged intelligent questioning, careful discrimination, and the courageous pursuit of truth.

PADA: That is what Jane Wallace of CBS news asked me. Why is Kirtanananda sitting on a gold throne, covered with the hands of many boys, and thus he is obviously in pedophile heaven -- and yet -- not one ISKCON person is even trying to pull him off the seat? 

Why are people chanting "Jaya bhaktipada" instead? Why wouldn't a Bhagavad Gita warrior put an end to this horrific public "pedophile heaven" display in their own Church, and remove this degraded and horrific scene from their Church? Why would anyone who understands Bhagavad Gita -- and thus fighting for justice -- allow open public pedophile worship in their religion? 

She also said she would have grabbed this man off the seat herself if this had been in her church, which means, she understands the Gita more than most ISKCON devotees.  

Even readers who disagree with some of the author’s interpretations may find themselves inspired to study Srila Prabhupada’s teachings more deeply, examine historical evidence more carefully, and strengthen their own understanding of how to serve his mission in difficult times. Ultimately, this offering is not merely about contemporary world events. It is about a timeless question that every disciple must answer personally: How can I best remain faithful to Srila Prabhupada and protect the purity of the mission he entrusted to us?

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Vyasa Puja 2023 offering to Srila Prabhupada
Dear Srila Prabhupada, Please accept my most humble obeisances at your divinely powerful lotus feet.

I would genuinely love to write an offering that made no reference to the current state of affairs and instead concentrate fully on your glories. But your glories and more importantly your instructions are woven into the fabric of the time. The question often comes up, is it appropriate for devotees to delve into current affairs when we hear statements from your divine grace such as this:

“Instead of contemplating what will happen to this world – you have got a short duration of life, say fifty, sixty years – you should chant Hare Krishna and go back to home, back to Godhead. Don’t consider what will happen to this world. Nature will take care of it. Don’t puzzle your brain with these thoughts. You should utilize whatever time you have in your possession and go back to home, back to Godhead.” (Morning walk in Caracas, February 21, 1975)

When I spent time with Syamsundara das (ACBSP), I asked him about the most quintessential observations in relation to his personal association with you Srila Prabhupada. One thing that struck me was this: he often observed that you would give one instruction to a certain devotee in the morning, yet later in the day give what appeared to be the exact opposite instruction to another disciple. However he noted that each instruction was always impeccably perfect according to time, place and the circumstances of that particular devotee. 

As you on one hand cautioned against the involvement in mundane affairs, you also spoke dire warnings regarding the prevalent asuric agendas at play. In the Srimad Bhagavatam the sages spoke up during the reign of King Vena, and you clarified this in your purport from SB. 4.14.41:

“Brāhmaṇas, the topmost section of human society, are mostly devotees. They are generally unaware of the happenings within the material world because they are always busy in their activities for spiritual advancement. Nonetheless, when there is a calamity in human society, they cannot remain impartial. If they do not do something to relieve the distressed condition of human society, it is said that due to such neglect their spiritual knowledge diminishes.”

PADA: Wow, that has certainly happened all over ISKCON. The people who did not challenge the GBC's pedophile messiah's project very often fell down, took drugs, got into wife swapping, got sick, ran off to the pedophile messiah's cheer leaders like Sridhara and Narayan, and many of them died prematurely. 

A whole lot of them got cancer, and still are getting cancer. One very young and beautiful woman was recently saying she is battling cancer, and she is glad to have an (ISKCON) guru to help her in this crisis. 

Well wait, offering food to her (ISKCON guru) conditioned soul is contaminated. There does not seem to be any effort to fix this issue at all. Most ISKCON devotees do not even know this is a problem. 

Eating food offered to contaminated people is contaminated, and will cause ill effects, maybe cancer -- full stop period. The thing that is so sad here, she should be just starting off her new younger life, and instead she has to think how it will be consumed by cancer and end.

 

You spoke numerous times of the insidious and destructive influence of atheistic communism disguised in modern times as globalist ideology (dominate society with a one world godless technocracy). This calamity is in full force at the present time and is not only outside our gates, but perhaps within. But, as it is a sophisticated psychological operation, it is expertly disguised as acting for the greater good to those who are not trained to see it.

PADA: A gurukula child told me ISKCON is run exactly like communist North Korea. A few elites get Kim Jong Un / Saudi Prince millionaire lifestyles, with servants, nice houses, cars, computers, and unlimited health care, while the lowly peons have to cook crickets, weeds, and maybe old shoes, into peon soup. It is run North Korean dictator style.  

“Now they are trying to destroy us. And we are trying to destroy them. The conflict is already there. And this is now psychological fight. And then there will be actual fight. And we must take part in that fight.” (Jan 21, 1977 Bhuvanesvara)

“So if the world becomes full of communists, then the human civilization will be finished. All rogues and rascals, that’s all….this communistic movement will finish the civilized human society.” (Morning walk LA / Dec 12th, 1973)

We can ascertain from the statements above that you pinpointed a clear and present danger. The question is, how do we recognize it? You warned us against the centralization of power both within your movement and without by an asuric ruling class. We currently see the growing prevalence of a New World Order of elitist technocratic tyranny based on godless scientism. 

PADA: Yes, ISKCON is highly sectarian. If we are not supporting the GBC's homosexual and pedophile messiah's program, we are kicked out the door and getting cursed and beaten with shoes on the way out the door.

We also observe the systematic silencing of any voices which question its manifestations of authority. We observe an erosion of God given freedoms via censorship and fear mongering in the guise of the promoting the so-called greater good and influencing organizations to align with their agenda via seemingly benign “save the world” propaganda which is not congruent with Srimad Bhagavatam understanding (such as the world is going to be destroyed on such and such a date due to global warming or climate change). 

PADA: Well yeah, ISKCON is world wide famous for removing, suppressing and silencing critics.

We alarmingly observed that during the recent pandemic, even in your ISKCON, there was all out censorship of any view other than the mainstream narrative on all ISKCON social media sites.

PADA: Some devotees thought getting the pandemic vaccine was bona fide, some did not, but I get it -- the society was under a lot of pressure to have everyone vaccinated for fear of being sued and etc. Our company did the same thing, they wanted to make sure no one got sick from their premises. 

So I get that, but at the same time, I personally never got the vaccine. I think ISKCON should have just told everyone to stay away until this blows over and run on a skeleton temple crew. But what amazes me is, so many people are always blabbering endlessly about the dangers of modern medicine, while the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club is rarely mentioned. 

You warned us to be vigilant about this influence which threatens all humanity, now more so than ever, as the technology has become so advanced. You confirmed that powerful families who own the central banks, run the modern world. The epicenter of that lever of power is the World Economic Forum and their proxy, Communist China, which has a well documented 100 year plan to overtake America. 

Their stated intentions are to wipe out religious expression and free speech. 

PADA: No one wipes out free speech as effective as ISKCON. My little teeny 98lbs. lady internet manager got bomb threats in Los Angeles, she had no doubt it was the GBC's goondas. She said they are a pack of a**holes. And ISKCON does not care if people get a bad impression like this either. 

An essential part of that plan, revealed in their documents, is subversion through infiltration and degradation of the traditional culture, in the name of the “greater good”, playing off the sentiments of those who are not privy to their long term techniques of subversion. That force has successfully infiltrated every aspect of our society with the intent to degrade, confuse and sexualize our youth, destabilize our institutions which are based on universal truths (not able to answer the most basic questions such as, ‘what is a woman?’), weaken the the male protector class of Kshatriya nature and ultimately sterilize our men and render our women and children infertile. 

PADA: Umm, well yeah, Krishna West, gay marriages, homosexual pedophile acharyas, drunk messiahs, ISKCON is also part of the society unravelling and degrading.

These disturbing trends are surfacing in peer reviewed scientific studies and statistics now readily available from every country around the world in our post pandemic vaccinated world. And yet, within your mission, honest discussion of this destructive influence, referencing your clear warnings quoted above, are conspicuous by their absence.

PADA: Every important issue is missing from open and honest discussion, including, how can falling down persons be God's successors?

Did we all miss that memo?

As Sri Isopanisad clearly states in mantra 11:

“Only one who can learn the process of nescience and that of transcendental knowledge side by side can transcend the influence of repeated birth and death and enjoy the full blessings of immortality.”

You also state on July 11th, 1973 in London:

“In fighting the first thing is to take estimation of the enemy’s side, how much they are strong, how they have arraigned. Then one should calculate how to counteract, how to fight with them. This is intelligence. Without taking any calculation of the other side, if you are not prepared, then how you can become victorious?”

If we are to follow your directives above, and become strong to fight against the influence of this insidious agenda (whose ultimate goal is transhumanism, or the merging with AI to become God) wouldn’t it logically be wise to understand how this enemy of theism is working in the context of our modern world – in every aspect of society? 

If we as a society fail to do so at this critical juncture, the proverbial wool will easily be pulled over our individual and collective sleep walking eyes. In this regard we are living in a most uniquely fascinating, dangerous and pivotally epic time in modern history. 

There is an all out attack on religious and traditional values. This can be observed in the systematic sexualization of children and the deliberate confusion of gender ideology with which is now prevalent and even required in school systems throughout the land.

PADA: OMG. What society has the worst track record of sexualizing their children? I forgot, Catholic kids are 5% likely to be molested, while in ISKCON some schools had 100% of the kids reported as molested. 

One kid told me, there was only 4,000 of us and at least 2,000 of us were abused, that is 50% right out of the gate. And he said it is likely WAY MORE, but 50% is for sure. 

And some of those kids ended up being gay due to being abused by homosexuals etc. Yeah, who has the worst record of all this? And the leaders in charge of all this, still are in charge! Nothing was ever rectified by removing the enablers and orchestrators.

You stated, “At present, this world is being managed by the Raksasas. The Raksasas are man-eaters who eat their own sons (p. 41 Raja-Vidhya),” and “At present, the Raksasas and demons – have taken charge. Therefore there is no protection of brahminical culture and cows, which are the basic prerequisites for all kinds of good fortune. This age is very dangerous because society is being managed by demons and Raksasas.” (SB 7.3.13)

In the current American culture led by the Rakshasas, criminals, murderers and rapists are being set free while religious Christian families who peacefully protest abortions are being raided by armed SWAT teams and prosecuted as extremists. Parents who protest the sexual grooming of their children in public schools are labeled as domestic terrorists. This is all by design to destroy the foundational theistic values of society.

PADA: Yep, me and Sulochana were ISKCON targets for assassination. Someone told me they think there has been abortions in Mayapur because there is a lax mood among the youth there. 

As Rupanuga ACBSP points out:

“Years ago, in college student days, having read a popular underground book entitled “None Dare Call It Conspiracy,” which in essence indicated that the world was being controlled and manipulated by a few extremely wealthy and powerful families, and having later read the above quote in Srila Prabhupada’s Raja-vidya, two devotees (Balavanta and Rupanuga) approached Srila Prabhupada (circa 1974) at his quarters in Mayapur Dham. Some of the names mentioned in “None Dare Call It Conspiracy” were still very much influential in the world, and he was asked if the these were the Raksasas he was referring to? Srila Prabhupada replied, “Yes.”

And what it the Rakshasa plan? Here Tapapunja ACBSP reveals:

“World War I was fought to create the League of Nations. World War II—another banker’s war—was fought to create the United Nations. The upcoming World War III will be fought to accomplish what the other wars failed to do—to abolish national sovereignty via an One World Government, or New World Order, fully controlled by the atheist asuric elite class. (The names of their controlling forces are the WEF, the UN, the WHO, the CDC, the IMF, the BIS etc). #

PADA: And Tapah punja was supporting the ISKCON new world order of homosexual and pedophile acharyas, and he was in fact a violent enforcer of that process. And the number of children who are victims of his process is likely in the thousands and thousands. 

Disempowering Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission is achieved by a phenomenon called the Hegemony of Parasitism. You best control an organization by funding it or by pretending to facilitate its preaching mission. Putana floated into Vrindaban unchecked by the Vrajabasis because her mystical feminine shakti concealed her real mission to kill baby Krishna.” 

Have we become such easy targets for the Rakshasa manipulation? How did we fare during the recent controversial pandemic? Did we allow open honest dialogue? Or did we follow in lockstep with a well orchestrated top down agenda? Did it foster in many devotees a schism of faith in our leaders? The same can be asked about the protection of our children.

PADA: Well yeah, the perception I have as a whistle blower of ISKCON child abuse is, we will be banned, beaten, sued and killed for exposing child abuse. And this is a top down agenda from the ISKCON management in general.   

Are these words too strong? When we contemplate what’s at stake, the influencing and weakening of the Krsna consciousness movement due to sentimental lack of understanding the issues and threats at hand, I think not. Has faith increased or decreased in the leaders we are meant to trust?

PADA: No person in their right mind should trust the leaders of a homosexual and pedophile messiah's club, and most do not. Hence the temples are ghost towns. Even Lokanath swami said that in 1988, the temples are empty ghost towns. Jayatirtha said the same thing in 1984, we would be lucky to find 500 of the original 5,000 disciples still left remaining in ISKCON, they are all leaving and "voting with their feet." 

Based on the above information, it becomes clear to many, myself included, that we cannot sit idly by with our heads in the sand, and simply chant and be happy while the enemies influence has infiltrated our camp. What would You do? 

You demonstrated historically a strong arm when there were similar threats. You excommunicated Kirtanananda swami when he returned from India wearing black robes and preaching mayavada philosophy. You excommunicated 4 sanyassis when you felt they were preaching the apa sampradaya philosophy that you were God. When you heard about the abuse of the children in Dallas you said of the abusers, “they should be hung!”

From Nanda Kumara’s Śrīla Prabhupāda memories: “Śrīla Prabhupāda told me something personally. His Divine Grace said, “There are those among us wearing dhotī, śikhā, tilaka and neck beads, but they are not devotees. They are agents of Kali who are here to try to stop our movement. You (said to me, but meaning all of us, especially those with a kṣatriya nature) should find out who they are and weed them out. That’s an exact quote.”

Bhaktivinode Thakur:

“After the time of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, those faithful to Him kept apart from non devotees, to avoid contamination. Seeing this, the personality of Kali sent his representatives in disguise to pollute the Vaiṣṇava sampradāya. Posing as Vaiṣṇavas, they spread their wicked doctrines, and appeared so intelligent and devoted that only pure devotees could detect their real identity. Most devotees – not only the most neophyte – were enchanted by their tricks. In this way Kali’s agents expertly introduced karma, jñāna, and anyābhilāṣa in the Vaiṣṇava sampradāya and caused śuddha-bhakti to vanish from the world.”

We should not be so naive to think this cannot happen. You clearly warned us, Srila Prabhupada. But it is happening. How do we prevent? By carefully studying the nature of the current situation with an open, unbiased and discerning mind free of pre disposition to a particular viewpoint, we can understand the dangers inherent in the warnings and directives you’ve given, Srila Prabhupada. 

And then, following your example, I pray these Kali-esque influences can be weeded out, carefully and methodically. This must be done with emotionally balanced maturity and yet w/o sentimentality. We need strong wise leaders who are not compromised or influenced by these agendas. Leaders who are far more committed to the pursuit of truth rather than being accepted by society. Where are such fearless men and women? They should step forward for the sake of your mission!

And so, while you gave the instruction to not concern ourselves with the affairs of the world, you simultaneously gave the instructions to fight these threats and educate ourselves as to their very nature, especially if there is a “fire in the hole” or the proverbial ship has been hit by an iceberg with water gushing in. Many of us feel this is such a pivotal “all hands on deck” moment in history, a Kuruksetra 2.0 if you will. Simultaneously we must enthusiastically inject the real panacea to the public at large in the form of the sankirtan yajna. As Rupanuga states: 

“Prabhupada gave ‘battlefield commissions’ to fight the demons, but that fight was to bring the truth of the maha-mantra to the people, to overcome their ignorance and poor fund of knowledge about the Yuga Dharma, the Sankirtan Yajna, hearing and chanting the maha-mantra.” This must be brought into to everyone’s home as the basis for the real cultural revolution.

May Their Lordships Sri Sri Caitanya and Nityananda guide us and give us strength. May Lord Nrsimhadev protect this great movement from this malefic often well disguised influence to make way for the pure golden age of the sankirtana mission! You sacrificed everything to this end. You gave your life, your every waking moment, your every breath, every drop of your energy and life blood so that we could spread this great movement for the benefit of all suffering humanity. 

To honor you, and show our love for you, we must work to preserve your superhuman magnanimous legacy of uncompromising compassion and unalloyed devotion so that it is not destroyed from within. That is our task at hand and it is no easy one.

And so I fervently pray to please bless me, bless us all, that we can embody this mission with patient perseverance, keen discernment, genuine humility and fearless dedication.

your lowly aspiring servant,
Badarayana dasa ACBSP.

PADA: I find it odd that whenever people write about the "crisis" going on in ISKCON, we almost never hear any mention that the devotees of Srila Prabhupada are constantly being banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed. And it is a ghost town. Isn't that the biggest problem? 

People who go to ISKCON write me for advice, how do I handle ISKCON? Well first of all NEVER tell them SRILA PRABHUPADA is YOUR GURU! Or they will call the police on you and have you removed for being a bogus ritvik. I know this happened recently to a devotee friend, the temple made a legal restraining order on him. So as soon as someone announces, I am not a fan of the GBC's homosexual and pedophile guru process, I want to worship a pure devotee then what?

BIF / BOOM / BAM!!!! You gotta go, you are never welcomed in ISKCON. There is the biggest problem right there. Mundane medical epidemic covid issues are a problem, but never the main one. This is a side show issue. 

And the GBC said they wanted to launch another $20,000,000 Bangalore lawsuit this January. To ban anyone who does not worship the GBC's homosexual and pedophile messiah's lineage all the more. What is wrong with these people? 

Why are they not spending money printing books? I forgot, they are suing us in India for even printing any books. We cannot worship a pure devotee, we cannot print his books, we will be served with a legal restraining order if we do not worship the pedophile messiah's program, I think these things are the larger issues! 

So while we are all worried about what happens next -- now that we hit an iceberg -- these guys are arguing about how can we get fresh doughnuts to the ball room dancing area on the sinking ship. They are trying to divert things from the real crisis issues. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com   

The CIA and ISKCON (Rupanuga Dasa) 07 09 26

 

Smog particles explained. 

Thanks for the science lesson RJ. Smog makes the air hotter because it is actually full of small solid particles. Solid objects hold heat way more than air, which is why we cannot touch our black colored car when it it 110 degrees, we will get burnt. The car is way hotter than the air. 

Smog is actually small solid particles (particulates), and the particles hold heat much more than air, and that is how smog particles heat up the surrounding air, and this superheats the air: the combined effect makes things hotter than normal clear air. And in addition to carbon particles, there are also tiny micro-plastics particles in the atmosphere. 

Right! I think that explains why the MAGA-heads cannot understand how any of this works, they are not in favor of science. But yeah, solid things heat up much hotter than air. Makes sense to me! Oh oh, we are also breathing in these particles, yikes! ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

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CIA in ISKCON

Interview with Rupanuga das (excerpt)

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Then he disappeared, and when he passed away, this kind of strong attitude went with him, in my opinion. And I have been at it for many years.

Host: So, that strong attitude — in other words, the tendency for, you could say, sentimentalism, being a little soft—

Rūpānuga Dāsa: This movement was not a nonviolent movement. It was not a nonviolent movement. Kṛṣṇa was violent when it was required. The Battle of Kurukṣetra was a very violent fact of history. Many, many people lost their lives. It was not a sentimental thing. So I think the battle is a battle of individuals within themselves. It is also a battle of the community on a national level.

Host: Just like Tāpa Puñja, Prabhupāda’s disciple — he was in prison for four years. Long story; we will not get into it right now. He is a great soul. He is in New Vrindavan. He has an agricultural training project where people come to New Vrindavan. He shows them how farming and Kṛṣṇa consciousness go side by side, and that it is really the future.

He is kind of a practical example of varṇāśrama.

When he was in prison for four years, the person he was closest with was an ex-CIA, kind of a higher-up in the CIA. He was an operative. He arranged for assassinations all over the world and was part of the Iran-Contra affair, and many, many things.

He said to Tapa Puñja — he said, “The way the Company works” — the Company being the CIA; that is what they call the CIA, “the Company” — he said, “Our MO, modus operandi, was that we would look at every corporation, religious institution, educational institution, political institution. If they were, by their culture, bringing people away from the narrative that we wanted people to believe, then we would infiltrate their organization and disrupt it, and try to bring it down.”

Tapa Puñja laughed at him and said, “Yes, but there is no way you could have infiltrated the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement. I mean, getting up at 3:00, 3:30 in the morning, shaving your head—”

And this guy — I think his name was Tom, I cannot remember — he looked at Tapa Puñja and just laughed at him and said, “You are so naive. We easily infiltrated your movement in the seventies.”

So, there you go. Because, as Prabhupāda said, “If they knew what I was trying to do, they would kill me.” He said that on more than one occasion.

So Prabhupāda’s mission was bringing people completely to polar— you know, a complete 180 from the mainstream narrative. So they infiltrated the movement.
I think devotees should not be so naive as to think that that cannot happen. It happened. And it may be happening now.

And I think, therefore, people should be discerning enough to be able to determine what those influences are by having a very comprehensive foundation in hearing from Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Without being paranoid.

Host: Right. But, you know, having the blinders up—

Rūpānuga Dāsa: The guy who talked to Tapa Puñja—

Host: I mean, the antenna up. I am sorry.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Right. But the guy who talked to Tapa Puñja, he could have been messing with him. We do not know for sure.

PADA: Yep, anything that comes from one crook -- from another crook -- might not be reliable info, correct. 

Host: No, he was not messing. He was not.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Were you there?

Host: No, I have questioned Tapa Puñja extensively. He said he was—

Rūpānuga Dāsa: I am not disbelieving it. I am just saying.

Host: He said he was being— I mean, there have been countless books written on the CIA. He said he was dead serious. There was another incident. Pṛthu was on a cross-country flight between New York and L.A., and he had his beads. And the person next to him said, “Oh, I see that you have those beads. Are you, by any chance, with the Hare Kṛṣṇas?”

He said, “Yes.”

And they got into a conversation and became friendly. And he said, “You know, I am just going to be honest with you. Back in the seventies, I was a CIA operative, and I was tasked with entering your movement in New York with the intentional purpose of destroying your New York temple and making sure that it got sold.”
These are for the historical record. You know, these things were going on. Because ISKCON, Prabhupāda’s movement, was so powerful. It was a threat to the globalists, to the mainstream narrative.

It just corroborates some of the things you said.

PADA: When I was in Los Angeles suing the GBC over the child molesting, Prithu was giving me very violent vibes. He said I was "spreading sh*t everywhere." I thought he was going to punch me. Yep. Me saying children should not be molested is "sh*t" for these guys. Same thing as the Mathura Pati / HKC Jaipur / Prahlad das / Mukunda UK / Bhakta Peter crew, PADA is saving children, because children are -- slimy smelly stools. Who knew!

They even promoted a video saying my helping children is helping smelly stools. Well yeah, because that way their pedophile messiah's project can be free to conduct their Auschwitz for kids program. Sheesh pilgrims!

Prithu is a big fan of his pedophile messiahs project, and now he wants to blame the CIA for his promoting pedophiles as God's successors. These people are the ones to blame for promoting ALL this nonsense, not the CIA. But they want to blame someone else, which is what criminals always do. If ISKCON was infiltered with deviants, these people are the deviants. 

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Well, it is a distraction from the materialistic narrative.

Host: Right.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: In whatever country you are in, it is a distraction. I do not know whether I wanted to bring it up or not.

Host: Go ahead. All the cards on the table.

Gargamuni Dāsa: Sounds like something we want you to bring up.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Yes. There is an issue about Śrīla Prabhupāda, whether he was poisoned.

Host: Right.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: I have looked at it from different angles and checked into it, and I have concluded that he was.

Host: Can you share your realizations on that? Because I have also spent a lot of time—

Rūpānuga Dāsa: I do not know if I want to do that.

Host: You do not have to go into names. But, yes. Anyway, it is up to you. It is up to you.

Rūpānuga Dāsa: Well, I mean, I do not want to get into details of it, because for some devotees it would be very discouraging to think that Kṛṣṇa would let that happen. “Oh, why would Kṛṣṇa let Śrīla Prabhupāda be poisoned?” So that is a very intricate question and answer. 

But in my opinion, he was. But that was part of the test of the movement. It is part of another test. Everyone cannot pass. And the thing about Śrīla Prabhupāda is that he left his books. And his books are incredibly clear and detailed. And there are many of them. And there is no loss. 

Śrīla Prabhupāda said that, “I am not different from my books.” So, in one sense, he is eternal. So from my opinion, it really does not matter. I do not consider ISKCON the sole proprietor of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. I think that is in Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books, and anyone who has a book of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s and is reading it — they are involved.

Host: I know you brought this up. I was looking at some of your letters that you had written, that I gleaned from the last many years. And this, I guess, would bring us to the next subject, on initiations.

PADA: This is very interesting -- Rupanuga accepts the poison complaint issue. When PADA first started this issue off in 1997, even most of the ritviks thought this is a sign I had lost the last marble in my head. "No one will believe this." Kamsahanta also said, "Don't release this. You will be dead in 24 hours." But they are accepting later. I think even slow as molasses in winter Kamsahanta eventually accepted it. 

But Rupanuga is right, it is a little discouraging to think this happened. But these guys are not CIA pros, or I would never have got the tapes. And even if I did, I would have been killed WAY before being able to release them. These guys are amateur hour crooks, and poisoners.

And Tapa Punja was a big fanatic of the Kirtanananda cult, and thus I do not tend to believe whatever he says about anything. He was one of the violent New Vrndavana enforcers, and that means forcing people -- especially children -- to worship Tapa Punja's homosexual and pedophile messiahs project. And to violently take down anyone who disagreed. 

I do not see him as a person with much discernment and discrimination. The CIA may or may not be involved, but for sure we ALL knew that falling down people are NOT acharyas and we -- as a group -- did not check and contain the deviation. If the mass of rank and file, or even 50 of them protesting with signs in front of a temple, had taken action, the GBC or the CIA would not have been able to halt that. 

Most devotees acquiesced with the deviation. And some of them became violent enforcers for the deviation, like Prithu and Tapah Pujna. And nothing the CIA did caused that to happen, it was done voluntarily by the mass of devotees, and the Prithu and Tapa Punja -- violent thug enforcers -- for the pedophile messiah's project sector. 

I also think that lifetime drunken womanizers -- like Hansadutta -- were not EVER CIA agent material. The CIA does not hire drunken percodan addicts as their team members. Nor would a CIA agent spend his entire life drinking Vodka and pretending to be a Hare Krishna -- until the day he died in an Oakland flop house for druggies and prostitutes. 

He would have done his CIA work and then quit and gone back to his house in Kentucky. A CIA agent also has a regular life and he would not spend his whole life acting as a Hare Krishna, never mind a drunken womanizer Hare Krishna. These guys are amateur crooks, of course even amateur crooks can be dangerous. 

My friend in the Berkeley police told me, Hansadutta is a amateur crook, and that makes him MUCH more dangerous than a regular crook, because regular crooks try not to make a lot of collateral damage to bring attention to themselves, and they try to minimize harm to others. Hansadutta does not care what the public or police think, or how bad his victims suffer, because he has no idea how to be an actual crook. Or a bona fide CIA agent. Agreed! ys pd 

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NATALIE RAW

WHERE THE F*CK DID HUMANITY GO?

Seriously… where the f*ck did it go?

People keep calling themselves “human,” but where is the humanity?

A being can look human and still have no compassion, no empathy, no conscience.
People will look into the eyes of a beautiful, innocent animal… kill that living being … cut its body apart … cook i t… eat it… and then flush it down the toilet a few hours later like it meant absolutely nothing.

What the actual f*ck???

People will drench themselves, their homes, their workplaces, their stores, and every public space with toxic, cancer-linked fragrances—even after they’re told those chemicals can make other people seriously sick. People who can’t breathe. People with chemical sensitivities. People who never chose to inhale that toxic air.
And they still don’t care. 

Because it’s all about them.

People will go to war and kill complete strangers because someone in a suit told them to. They don’t even question why.

People abuse women.

They abuse children.

They rape.

They traffic human beings.

They consume violent and degrading pornography.

They manipulate, lie, cheat, use other people for money, sex, status, or convenience … and then act like it’s normal. What the actual f*ck happened to humanity?

This version of humanity feels like an abomination. Perhaps it’s time for another reset!

We know there are powerful systems that reward division, greed, violence, and endless consumption. But what about you people? At what point do you stop blaming “the system” and start taking responsibility for your own choices?
You don’t have to follow the crowd.

You don’t have to keep running the same destructive program.

You can choose compassion.

You can choose empathy.

You can choose to stop causing unnecessary suffering.

You can choose to actually give a damn about another living being besides yourself.

Yes, many people move through life on autopilot, repeating whatever they’ve been taught without questioning it.

But if you’re capable of thinking for yourself…

Here’s my question…

When did being kind become so f*cking difficult?

When did caring about another living being become controversial? When did humanity become optional? We don’t need more technology.

We don’t need more distractions. We need people who remember what it actually means to be human. Can you do better? Can you start caring?

Can you stop treating other living beings like they’re disposable? Because without compassion… without empathy… without conscience… We’re not evolving.
We’re just becoming more technologically advanced while spiritually bankrupt.