Gargamuni and the Poison Issue 09 12 26

 

PADA: Gargamuni is saying he cannot accept that Srila Prabhupada was intentionally poisoned. OK well this is the same problem we had on every single issue with most devotees. 

*** Well prabhu there is mass child molesting going on. No there is not! 

*** They are re-writing the books. No, Jayadvaita is improving the books. 

*** Srila Prabhupada says he is being poisoned. No, he never said that! Etc. 

Well it looks to me like a lot of people are FINALLY saying, hey wait a minute, he DOES say he is being poisoned; they are making massive book changes and yeah lots of child molesting has been going on. Yup!  

Gregory Michal Scharf (Gargamuni)

Srila Prabhupada was taking Markata Dwaja Medicine which can act as a poison or a stimulent for the heart .... loaded with different metals including mercury. the medcine was brought from Delhi and was already contaminated and had a poisonious effect on His body.; but not that He was poisoned purposely...

Govinda Dasadasa: Hare Krishna Prabhuji. Pl. accept dandavats. May I correct you, It is makaradvaja not markatadvaja.

PADA: Gregory Michal Scharf They are whispering about intentional p*isoning him. It is all on tape. The whispers have been authenticated by three separate professional audio forensic labs. The Gainesville FBI said if this crime had taken place in the USA, they would have made it a felony crime and charged the culprits. They believe the evidence points to a homicide. The FBI are convinced by the evidence. 

Srila Prabhupada says I need to get out of this room because Ravana will k*ll me here. Etc. He says someone is giving me p*ison, and someone is, and that someone is the Ravana party. Sorry, there is a lot of info you are ignoring here. But the Truth Labs in India are professional forensic folks and they made a package of all the evidence and they said, this is a homicide. I trust the professionals and not the armchair side experts. 

Of course I also said there is mass child mistreatment going on in 1979, no one believed me, because the devotees as a group have little discrimination on what is a crime and what is not. I cannot trust their judgement. The Bengali man who transcribed the tape for me said, this is a homicide, that was his interpretation of the tape and so it is for a number of other native speakers. A Brijabasi friend of Srila Prabhupada also told me this is a homicide when I played the tape to him. He was a personal friend of Srila Prabhupada and he was crying. The devotees for the most part never cry, they want to defend their friends, just like they defended their friends on the mass child mistreatment. ys pd

Madhavi Khurana: Nope, not the case.

Sanaka Rsi: You are confirming that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, but you're saying that it wasn't intentional. How can you be certain? I'm still waiting to hear a reasonable explanation for the high levels of cadmium...

PADA: Yeah, the GBC always hires "experts" like their audio forensic sound expert, who was the owner of a rock and roll recording studio that went bankrupt. And their "doctor's report" that was made by a person who has no doctor degree. Naveen Krishna's dad [Dr. Khurana] was one of the Kavirajas and he said there was malefic intent, which Naveen also believes. I was the person who first released these November tapes [why were they hidden?] and I believed the tapes before we even knew there was any forensic follow up, which confirmed the tapes. 

Dr. Lemos does not cover the full range of evidence, nor does he explain why we concluded there was malefic intent before any of the forensics was even known about. Nor does he explain what they are whispering about etc. It is another GBC dud on arrival. ys pd 

*** NITYANANDA DASA

I am working on getting a text (not PDF) version of the 5 year forensic study (summary only) done by Truth Labs, Hyderabad on the evidence that Srila Prabhupada was maliciously p*isoned by his own caretakers in 1977. This is why the GBC finally actually responded with a bit more than their constant past denials, hiring a Dr. Lemos to nit-pick and fault-find the p*isoning thesis.

Again, rather than do any of their own tests or present some solid contrary evidence, the GBC through Dr. Lemos simply created doubts, maybe this, maybe that, thus inconclusive. And, of course, the GBC places NO WEIGHT on Srila Prabhupada's own words about being p*isoned, nor the "p*ison whispers."

No honest investigation, ever... 49 years now. Just denials or implausible "alternative" explanations, such as, Srila Prabhupada's lethal levels of heavy metals might have come from ceramic mugs, rice, mustard seeds, the Yamuna, Ayurvedic meds, etc, although he was the only one who somehow acquired these amounts!

J Dasi: PADA, you make a good argument. All sides should be considered. Pros-Cons.

Gregory Michal Scharf

Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada? You said before that it is said that you were poisoned?

Prabhupada: No. These kind of symptoms are seen when a man is poisoned. He said like that. Not that I am poisoned.

Tamala Krsna: Yeah. Did anyone tell you that, or you just know it from before?

Prabhupada: I read something.

Tamala Krsna: Ah, I see. That's why actually we cannot allow anyone else to cook for you.

Prabhupada: That is good.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation -- November 9, 1977, Vrndavana Srila Prabhupada was taking Markata Dwaja Medicine which can act as a poison....loaded with different metals including mercury. the medcine was brought from Delhi and was already contaminated and had a poisonious effect on His body.

PADA: Yep, one isolated statement out of all the others. But yeah, he has the symptoms and the kavirajas agreed. And we cannot allow someone else to cook for you, yep, classic means of delivering toxins. A gurukuli saw Bhavananda sprinkling white powder on Srila Prabhupada's food, he said it was "spiritual dust" OK heavy metals can be ground into powder. 

There are also whispers and etc. I never needed any of that, I just just accept when he says someone is giving me p*ison, then someone is. I believe he wanted to hide the info and so most of it is in the Hindi, that is why they did not destroy the tapes, and that is why I got them. The Bengali newsman who did the original transcript told me, "this man is being p*isoned." He did not even know who Prabhupada was ... he knew what the tape said. Yeah we need to take all the quotes together and not cherry pick one isolated one, which by the way confirms he has the symtoms and these symptoms maybe coming from his food. Even this part of the conversations shows something suspect. ys pd

Asta sakhi -- Rasa Manjari: When Srila Prabhupada made his last journey to England. He asked me up to his rooms . He was so frail so fragile and could not stand without support. We were in his rooms and in his bedroom. He sent his servant out of the room and asked me to bring him a bunsan burner stove with a pot that could fit the burner with a lighter and to bring it directly to him. 

He asked me to bring him milk at this time everyday he was there and to hand it to him personally. He looked me in the eyes and I answered yes Srila Prabhupada and he answered I want to cook the milk myself. I supplied him with everything and got into so much trouble when I insisted to give Srila Prabhupada his milk every day only putting it directly in his hands and only his servant hands when Srila Prabhupada noded his head confirming to do it this way.

I felt so bad so afraid when Srila Prabhupada left that I could not go with him to protect him as that mood consumed me after giving him his milk in this way. If anything was going on our beloved Srila Prabhupada knew about it.

Asta Sakhi - another lady who cooked for Prabhupada was told by him ". I want her to cook for me as I know she loves me so much and would never poison me." At the last days in November of 1977 Prabhupada had told devotees I can either stay or leave as Krsna has told me this. 

He asked several senior Disciples including Tamal , Kirtananda and Kirtanananda and a few others said, "we need you to stay" but Tamal was totally silent and didn't answer. Prabhupada wanted his sister to cook for him and not others. Anyone who doubts Srila Prabhupada and calls Srila Prabhupada a conspiracy agitator or insults those who love Him and ache for His tribulation at the hands of evil subversives, is condemned.

Madhavi Khurana: "small portions"...NO!! Go to: PrabhupadaTruthCommission.com for proper reports.

Mayesvara Dasa: All the other stupid pseudo-evidence that has been presented by those who do not understand Jurisprudence to prop up Nico's venomous rumor that Srila Prabhupada was murdered by his most trusted disciples are fully exposed at: https://samadhitattva.com/

Madana Gopal: Iskcon needs to wake the hell up, and stop the cover up, The evidence is overwhelming and conclusive Srila Prabhupada was maliciously and deliberately POISONED, Srila Prabhupada even stated it himself, that he was being poisoned.

Any so called iskcon devotee that wants to dismiss the evidence and flippantly brush it aside should be ashamed of themselves. Look at the evidence its proof right there but iskcon goes out of its way to try to disprove disprove disprove. Im disgusted and disappointed with so called advanced devotees working so hard to disprove the absolute truth.

Gregory Michal Scharf: Brahmananda was present, no such thing took place Prabhu... 

Gunamai D. Dasi: And Krishna was present and he protects his pure devotees. But then, even Krishna was attacked by Maya when he was born, (somewhere I read Prabhupada had said that ) . No one can understand Krishna’s mysterious past times. Mare Krishna rakhe ke, rakhe Krishna Mare Ke..

Gita:  7-26 “O Arjuna, as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, I know everything that has happened in the past, all that is happening in the present, and all things that are yet to come. I also know all living entities; but Me no one knows.”

Madana Gopal: I really wish that was the case but as I said for me the evidence is overwhelming. 

Gregory Michal Scharf: Madana Gopal Srila Prabhupada was taking Markata Dwaja Medicine which can act as a poison or a stimelent for the heart....loaded with different metals including mercury. the medcine was brought from Delhi and was already contaminated and had a poisonious effect on His body.; but not that He was poisoned purposely...

Madana Gopal: I am sorry prabhu but I definitely do not agree I believe he was purposely poisoned I’m open to all theories, I have read all literature for and against I believe the evidence to be overwhelmingly in favour that our Srila Prabhupada was maliciously poisoned.

Ujjval G Samanic yes I know you dont have to convince me

Madhavi Khurana: Markadvaja was only given to him a couple of times in the last few days, and it was nixed by the kaviraja after that as not appropriate for Prabhupada's condition. That doesn't account then, either, for the elevated levels in his hair samples months before!

Markadvaja itself also isn't "loaded with different metals"; you need to be accurate instead of presenting vague statements. Its basis is mercury, sulphur and gold...but obviously it is produced in such a way that it give BENEFICIAL results, not malefic!

But, as I mentioned, Srila Prabhupada was only given it 2 or 3 times. That did NOT account for the elevated levels of mercury or MORE lethally, CADMIUM in his hair! If markadvaja was deadly, it wouldn't be used as it has been for centuries in Ayurveda!

Maha Alexandrova: Srila Prabhupada himself said he was poisoned. This is the first evidence!! 

Gregory Scharf: Maha Alexandrova He did not, Brahmananda was present, this all a conspiracy theory for fame and fortune, thats all by one crazy man

PADA: The Bengali man who made the first transcript said this is a homicide. He is not a crazy man, nor does he want fame and fortune? In fact he told me never to mention his name since he fears for his relatives in Bengal. This man is a professional Bengali news editor, he does not want any fame and he is not crazy either, he is a professional. 

I am also not seeking fame either by forwarding these tapes, rather I knew this would be a peril to my life. Why would I put my life in peril again, after my life was already in peril for exposing the mass child mistreatment. Then the Jayapataka people complained that they had to spend $100,000,000 after I supported various lawsuits. Why is ISKCON spending $100,000,000 fighting crazy people? 

Sorry, we have professional forensic experts backing our claim, and the GBC's experts were proven to be frauds. To insult me as a crazy man who wants fame does not answer all the self evident questions, for starters, why was I told this is a homicide by the Bengali man and also by a close Prabhupada associate Brjabasi, who was crying when I played him the tape? 

Was he crying because he is a crazy many who wants fame? No, same thing, he fears these people and does not want his name mentioned. Calling us crazy liars is how the child mistreatment was also handled ... I am well used to it by now. Calling us people crazy liars if GBC pt. II, we have heard it all before a million times. Naveen and others are also not crazy people, they just confirmed what the Bengali man told me from square one. But I knew something bad was going on before I even gave the tape to the Bengali man. ys pd

Lila Shakti: Gregory Michal Scharf, Yes Prabhu. We know who is that crazy man and his stupid conspiracy theories!

Madhavi Khurana Piotr Woyno please listen to the recordings of November 1977. Srila Prabhupada himself was the one "who started this conspiracy theory". 

Gregory Michal Scharf Brahmananda was present?! Didn't notice his name in the transcripts of those November 1977 recordings! Perhaps it would be good for you to hear the recordings yourself, Prabhu and read the transcripts of the November tapes before you make and publish a judgement on such an important and pivotal matter!!

Srila Prabhupada DID say he was being poisoned on November 8, 1977 (conversation books)! That is why there was a BIG commotion! Bhakti Caru was VERY alarmed! The kaviraja was intensely inquiring and there was a LOT of discussion with Tamal and Bhavananda! How can you boldly say that "this is all nonsense"! How DARE you mislead people like that!

The discussion picked up again on the next day. And then on the 10th there was discussion about Srila Prabhupada's gong on parikrama. THAT is when he called his "caretakers", "Ravana"!

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This seems like suicide, Śrīla Prabhupāda, this program. It seems to some of us like it's suicidal.

Prabhupāda: And this is also suicidal.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hmm. Prabhupāda said, "And this is also suicide." Now you have to choose which suicide.

Prabhupāda: The Rāvaṇa will kill and Rāma will kill. Better to be killed by Rāma. Eh? That Marikhi—if he does not go to mislead Sītā, he'll be killed by Rāvaṇa; and if he goes to be killed by Rāma, then it is better.

NOTICE that Tamal says, "Now you have to choose which suicide"!!! And when Srila Prabhupada makes his "Ravana" statement, Tamal just goes on and changes the subject!! WHY?! Wouldn't YOU be alarmed at his statement?!!

And as far as accusing Nityananda Prabhu of "coming up with this 'conspiracy theory' for fame and fortune", that is just really laughable!! What kind of "fame" do you think he's gotten by compiling this evidence?! Mostly negative "fame" like you are promoting.

And fortune?! That's a completely ridiculous statement! HOW has he, or WILL he, gain "fortune" from this project?! Rather, he has invested tens of thousands of dollars into careful and professional forensic research...something that your GBC refused to do!! They have MUCH more important things to spend their $$ on, like comfy accommodations and travel for themselves!

PLEASE don't speak when you don't have accurate knowledge. IF your brother was there...do you think that the poisoners would have let him know they were poisoning Srila Prabhupada?! Obviously not! And obviously also, Brahmananda Prabhu wasn't there every minute of every day, and apparently NOT when Srila Prabhupada HIMSELF spoke of being poisoned!!

Mayesvara Dasa: Dr. Lemos affadavit and qualifications can all be found at:

https://samadhitattva.com/category/drlemos/

PADA: Mayesvara Dasa Yes, samadhi for child predators, we got that already. ys pd

Mayesvara Dasa

You don't "Get" anything correctly!

PADA: Mayesvara Dasa Yes, the GBC made a samadhi for a child predator. My friends in Vrndavana are mortified, but they said complaining could put their lives in peril, so they have to not complain. We know all about your samadhi tattvas. Giriraj is back to wearing orange and hanging out with Vaisesika like there is no problem, and my friends here said that Silicon Valley guys simply have no idea how badly this looks to the public, nor do they care. I told them,he is another predator posing as a messiah, it is all part of the club. ys pd

Ron Jermakian: Can we at least get an AI summary on this thread? (not that I'm too dumb or lazy to follow links, lol...)

Chitramalini Kesavi Chandana Hazarika: Hare Krishna Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisances 🙏. Kindly share the report 🙏

Madana Gopal: Iskcon has never done a proper scientific in depth, investigation into this allegation, that iskcon calls a poison conspiracy theory. its no theory there is definitely enough evidence to warrant a proper investigation, instead of some half baked un-financed rubbish that they published called not that Im poisoned, which never addressed any of the questions or evidence at hand, never did any of there own scientific testing. and worked consistently behind the scenes against anyone or any group who inquired or investigated the poison issue, instead chose to criticise concerned devotees, who had paid thousands of dollars to have the proper scientific tests completed by world experts. 

You cant just brush these experts aside and call it a conspiracy theory. Iskcon has never given any answers to the scientific evidence or questions asked, preferring to at all costs avoid confronting the real evidence and in so doing brainwashing the current vaishnava community, that there is no evidence. But in actual fact there is definitely loads of evidence to warrant a proper investigation.

John S Stead: Why is this important prabhu? Didn't Srila Prabhupada simple disappear due to old age? 

Mahabhagavata Dasi: So many want to believe it. Thank you. Great service.

Ratnamaya Nimai Das: Hare krishna Prabhuji i offering my humble obeisances into ur lotus feet 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

Lalita Liechti: Hare Ktsna Gargamuni Prabhu. So what are the results of the test?

Anusha Mohan: psdmohan@gmail.com

Nandini Mohindra: Great but what do I do about Srila Prabhupad’s hair sample?

Lila Shakti: His Divine Grace was never poisoned. Thank you!

JS: Why is this important prabhu? Didn't Srila Prabhupada simple disappear due to old age?

Madhavi Khurana: Anything in relation to Srila Prabhupada is important. The specific reason THIS issue is important is that it points to the HORRIFYING possibility that some of Srila Prabhupada's "closest disciples" poisoned Srila Prabhupada with malefic intent!

Why would they do that? What was the motive? Look no further than "becoming guru themselves"...and all the fame, profit, distinction, and adoration that entailed. Surely you're aware of the history AND all the fallout and disasters that move caused!

And now, the GBC STILL won't HONESTLY look at ANY of the issues (initiation, Deity worship, BOOK CHANGES, child abuse!); they still operate in a bubble, thinking they are "above the law" and can do anything they want!

Kurma Avatar Video / Food Safety / Dallas Ritviks / 09 10 26

Oh oh pilgrims, the homosexual and pedophile messiah's program has solved the whole issue! Who knew! ys pd

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PADA: Sheesh pilgrims, this is in all the India newspapers and TV news. Its not a good look for Krishna and ISKCON. ys pd

RB: Maybe the way the food is rolled around on the floor? ISKCON uses donated government surplus rice, canned beans, peanut butter and cheese here. Who knows what is going on with these things.

CY: Iskcon Bangalore is feeding 2M children, daily, they know how to do it.

AD: Someone may put dangerous substances in food! Don't forget these people poisoned their guru.

CY: Thats a good point

AD: Each school school prepare its own food!

K Das: When money becomes God then God wouldn't take the job as servant, so all good quality disappeared.

PP: I hope the management does the introspection can they really offer Krishna those contaminated foods. With so much of donation if you cant take care of this small thing then probably Prabhupada would have fired you from the role of management long time ago. The same people make the same problems repeats.

PS: Thank you for being honest and taking corrective measures.

TFS: Govinda's is serving prasadam of supreme personality of Godhead, how can they be so casual and negligent?? Prasadam should be prepared with firstclass cleanliness. If not -- then better do not run food program and restaurants.

AS: No excuses please. I have suffered from food poisoning after eating a sandwich at Iskcon Vrindavan stall just last year. If it is wrong it is wrong, even Srila Prabhupada would not allow such things. Somehow we have become so commercialized that we are hardly caring for cleanliness. Govindas in Juhu charge rs 800+ for a plate. So why can't they keep basic cleanliness.

Prabhupada always saids cleanliness is next to godliness. Come to check the Govindas in Mira road, it is very very poor.

RR Das: Govinda's of every temple should be checked. Barring a few, most of them will fail the test. First and foremost compliance to be met, is to cook for Krishna. If they cook for Krishna then they will surely maintain cleanliness.

If they cook for Krishna then it will be cooked only by devotees, not others.

If they cook for Krishna, then they will be very very careful about everything, including the cleanliness and the consciousness. If they cook for Krishna then it will be called Radharani's kitchen. Then the devotion will automatically flow.
Only Krishna knows why and for whom they cook.

AD: Then Prasadam also will be distributed freely and lovingly. Resturant means profit motive and compromises.

A Goswami: Bad managing. Again!

NC: Cleanliness in India?! Hah hah!

VK Devi Dasi: Iskcon management need to understand that gone are the days of trying to get away with unsafe food hygiene practices. Here, Iskcon Adelaide were told they needed to comply with food safety for their Food For Life, and instead of using the large amounts of money going through their accounts to fix this, they just shut down the decades and decades long practice of feeding the homeless and needy prasadam. 

They still take money and food donations for the project though. They told the homeless to come to the temple and and pay for prasad. Seems like a matter of greed and mismanagement.

"Until the necessary corrective measures are completed and the required regulatory compliance is achieved, the concerned kitchen operations at ISKCON Juhu will remain closed." 

CW: Wow! Is India shifting gears towards hygiene in the kitchens? Good. I don't know for sure, but I do hope they are closed. Especially since it's happened in Juhu, other places would be inclined to go after other Temples and restaurants. 

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DALLAS RITVIKS NOT WELCOMED

Hare Krishna D B prabhu please accept my humble obeisances All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!! Hare Krishna prabhu, I know you are doing nice preaching up north at the temple and that you have chosen the ritvic conception of Srila Prabhupada as the only diksha Guru, or something along those lines as have many Godbrothers and others. 

But as you know the Dallas temple Is following Srila Prabhupada's direction as given in his may 1977 meeting with the Gbc ,see interview with Srila Prabhupada's Rupanuga dasa on youtube on Prabhupada remembrances, when the Gbc asked specifically about his disciples taking their own disciples.

PADA: Yep, Rupanuga promoted the GBC's homosexual and pedophile messiah's program. And at the same EXACT time me and Sulochana were opposing Kirtanananda, because he was having oral sex with boys among other crimes, Rupanuga voted with the GBC to condemn me and Sulochana, -- to make us targets for assassination. Lets face it, he was in major duty illusion of the worst order, and thus should not be cited as an authority.  

So their is a conflict of interest, we, the Dallas temple promote accepting diksha from our Iskcon guru's and you have been promoting your program at the temple to individuals and to people living in Kalachandji dham. So it has become an issue,and now people are threatened by you and your wife, that you are trying to infiltrate this community with what we see as bogus philosophy and teaching. And now there are going to be steps taken to protect the aspiring devotees here in the community from you and your wife. 

There have been several direct complaints from people you and your wife have spoken to and given books to containing your ritvic teaching. If you want to maintain and promote peace in the neighborhood you should think about what to do, maybe you should give a written apology promising that you will no longer approach people in this temple and neighborhood with your books and philosophy or something. You are a sincere Prabhupada man,but what you are doing here is causing trouble so please figure something out and please keeping your promotional activities out of our neighborhood to keep the peace. I'm approaching you as a friend, Godbrother, and neighbor prabhu please don't take offence

DB: yes.. do not approach anyone. have not been to temple for sixteen years. we have our own association who follow Prabhupada.. false propaganda that we go to other people ... now there are hundreds of Prabhupada followers...3 years ago my wife went to manual arati and locals complained... 3 years ago one lady came to help with lamp for Deity ...she added that we must know about history so I gave book of Radha Kalachandji installation and 1970s history...that I had written.

We have no interest in anyone's ideas as we have plenty association with new ritviks temple project...don't listen to false and malicious speech...thus lady only came to our home...even we took care of Tamals disciples...we only wrote book with help of 1972 pujaris who installed Deities and when my wife came to manual arati...pujarus gave maha and complaint was that don't give maha as roaches will come...very. hateful and my wife never spokecto anyone ...almost all Fiji girls were abused and kicked out unnecessarily...much hatred

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PADA: As per usual, the GBC has $100,000,000 for lawsuits, but not $10,000 to hire a clean up crew for their restaurant. Told ya! Unfortunately, this has now become a big public scandal. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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IRAN UPDATE

Yep prabhu blowing up ships full of oil is making giant oil spills around the Persian gulf and is a making a huge bio-hazard for all the marine life, bird life, animal life, and ultimately human life. The citizens there recycle gulf water for drinking water and oil will make a big contamination problem. But yeah, I do not think either the USA or IRAN has any real concern for the long term bio-hazard impacts of all this. 

Same thing in Ukraine, all sorts of bio-hazards and -- no one is really worried about the long range bio-hazard effects. But overall, we underestimated the Iran military capacity, and that is now a quagmire. Now Iraq is ordering USA out of there, obviously more and more countries want USA out, we are losing our footprint there no matter how much we bomb the region. In short, we are sort of stuck, just like Russia is stuck in Ukraine. Underestimated in both cases.

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KAILASA CHANDRA UPDATE

The Gaudiya Matha said that our process of offering bhogha to the acharya is defective, because we need to offer to one of their acharyas. They said that to us in 1971. Kailasa agrees with the Gaudiya Matha, he also says that our program of getting people to offer bhogha to the pure devotee is the "karta bhaja sahajiya Christian idea." Of course even the atheists do not accept that bhogha needs to be offered to the pure devotee. It is amazing that Kailasa is upset people are offering their food to Krishna, following the orders of Krishna. 

There is no quote from Srila Prabhupada that our offering bhogha to the pure devotee is sahajiya, "material activism" and etc. That is the Gaudiya Matha's complaint. Anyway the good news is we now have tens of thousands of people offering their bhogha to the pure devotee, because we are following the orders to train people in this process. We are training people in the process of offering bhogha to the pure devotee, and we never even see any of this mentioned by the Kailasa people, except they do not want us to instruct others in the process. The only thing we know the Kailasa people do accept is, we need to offer food to the Madhyam, who can fall down, which is also Ravindras' idea. Sorry, Srila Prabhupada told us to instruct others to offer bhogha to the pure devotee and he never said this process is material, sahajiya etc ... that is what the Gaudiya Matha says. ys pd

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NITYANANDA DASA

APOLOGIES FOR THE DELAY.... MY PHONE WAS STOLEN

I am working on getting a text (not PDF) version of the 5 year forensic study (summary only) done by Truth Labs, Hyderabad on the evidence that Srila Prabhupada was maliciously poisoned by his own caretakers in 1977. This is why the GBC finally actually responded with a bit more than their constant past denials, hiring a Dr. Lemos to nit-pick and fault-find the poisoning thesis.

Again, rather than do any of their own tests or present some solid contrary evidence, the GBC through Dr. Lemos simply created doubts, maybe this, maybe that, thus inconclusive. And, of course, the GBC places NO WEIGHT on Srila Prabhupada's own words about being poisoned, nor the "poison whispers."

Rascals... no honest investigation, ever... 49 years now. Just denials or implausible "alternative" explanations, such as, Srila Prabhupada's lethal levels of heavy metals might have come from ceramic mugs, rice, mustard seeds, the Yamuna, Ayurvedic meds, etc, although he was the only one who somehow acquired these amounts!

MEANWHILE: Srila Prabhupada, Srimad Bhagwatam 10.1.17:

TRANSLATION

Once when mother earth was overburdened by hundreds of thousands of military phalanxes of various conceited demons dressed like kings, she approached Lord Brahmā for relief.

PURPORT

When the world is overburdened by unnecessary military arrangements and when various demoniac kings are the executive heads of state, this burden causes the appearance of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. As the Lord says in Bhagavad-gītā (4.7):

yadā yadā hi dharmasya
glānir bhavati bhārata
abhyutthānam adharmasya
tadātmānaṁ sṛjāmy aham

"Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion—at that time I appear Myself." When the residents of this earth become atheistic and godless, they descend to the status of animals like dogs and hogs, and thus their only business is to bark among themselves. 

This is dharmasya glāni, deviation from the goal of life. Human life is meant for attaining the highest perfection of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, but when people are godless and the presidents or kings are unnecessarily puffed up with military power, their business is to fight and increase the military strength of their different states. 

Nowadays, therefore, it appears that every state is busy manufacturing atomic weapons to prepare for A THIRD WORLD WAR. Such preparations are certainly unnecessary; they reflect the false pride of the heads of state. The real business of a chief executive is to see to the happiness of the mass of people by training them in Kṛṣṇa consciousness in different divisions of life. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (Bg. 4.13). 

A leader should train the people as brāhmaṇas, kṣatriyas, vaiśyas and śūdras and engage them in various occupational duties, thus helping them progress toward Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Instead, however, rogues and thieves in the guise of protectors arrange for a voting system, and in the name of democracy they come to power by hook or crook and exploit the citizens. Even long, long ago, asuras, persons devoid of God consciousness, became the heads of state, and now this is happening again. 

The various states of the world are preoccupied with arranging for military strength. Sometimes they spend sixty-five percent of the government's revenue for this purpose. But why should people's hard-earned money be spent in this way? Because of the present world situation, Kṛṣṇa has descended in the form of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. This is quite natural, for without the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement the world cannot be peaceful and happy.

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The following statement was released by ISKCON Juhu Communications on September 9, 2026:

“ISKCON Juhu recently received a notice from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Government of Maharashtra, following an inspection of our kitchen and food operations conducted on 3 September 2026.

Following the inspection, the authorities assessed our compliance at 70% and identified certain areas requiring corrective action. Our food licence has been temporarily suspended, not cancelled, while these matters are being addressed. The observations primarily relate to procedures, documentation, testing, infrastructure, and other operational and regulatory requirements.

Our representatives are in communication with the authorities, and we have already initiated the necessary corrective measures in accordance with their guidance. We are working diligently to address each of the observations and achieve full compliance with all applicable food safety and regulatory standards at the earliest.

ISKCON has been serving devotees and communities on a large scale for many decades. We recognise that operating at such a scale carries a significant responsibility, and we remain committed to learning, improving and continuously strengthening our systems and standards.

The safety, hygiene and well-being of our devotees, guests and all those we serve remain our highest priority. Until the necessary corrective measures are completed and the required regulatory compliance is achieved, the concerned kitchen operations at ISKCON Juhu will remain closed.

ISKCON Juhu is extending its full cooperation to the authorities and is committed to completing the required corrective measures at the earliest.”

Madhu Pandit speaks / Gopal Krishna swami / Kailasa / Changed Books Stats 09 08 26

WOW PILGRIMS, WE ARE LIVING IN ONE OF THESE COSMIC BUBBLES. SHEESH!

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MADHU PANDIT ON CHANGED BOOKS (For Vyasapuja)

MPD: We beg for strength and pray to Srila Prabhupada on this auspicious Vyasa Puja day, that we be directed to do everything possible, even litigation, to ensure that BBT agrees to print original pre-1977 books alone. Thousands of devotees do not know that they are distributing edited books with diminished potency from the original books of Srila Prabhupada.

How can it be instituted that devotees distribute books that have been edited, as Srila Prabhupad’s, without displaying on the covers that they have been co-authored by the editors ? This is unethical. Yet it is done so that devotees remain enthusiastic in book distribution. They want to tamper with the original work of Srila Prabhupada and still distribute them in the name of Srila Prabhupada’s books.

Srila Prabhupada has sanctioned us respite from the ISKCON Bangalore Vs ISKCON Mumbai legal battle, with the win at the Supreme Court of India and the right to function as ISKCON temples all over India. We pray for his blessings to go legal internationally, for the cause of maintaining the purity of his books. We pray that if it so pleases you, Srila Prabhupada, may you use us to end this tampering of your transcendental vani.

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PADA: Yes Gopal Krishna swami helped make a samadhi in the dham for Kirtanananda -- who was having oral sex with young males at New Vrndavana. We had to sue Kirtanananda's program for $3M and later $400M for mass children exploiting, and Kirtanananda was one of the exploiters. We should not bury the exploiters of children who are sued for mass child mistreatment -- in a samadhi in the dham.

The courts also ruled for us, we won and ISKCON had to pay giant fees and fines. Why does the court know it is not good to promote child predators as gurus, or place predators in samadhis, and Gopal Krishna does not? Rather amazing, the folks in this video say we need to accept the authority of people who make homosexual and pedophile samadhis or else we cannot understand what Srila Prabhupada says. OK here in the West a person making a sacred burial site for a homosexual pedophile / bogus messiah would be beaten with shoes and sued, and the samadhi would not have been allowed. 

The public would not have allowed such desecration to happen over here. Sulochana said worshiping a bucket of dog poop is more pious than worship of a homosexual pedophile, because a dog poop will not ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas. They are not advanced enough to worship a bucket of dog poop, which is why, the Gopal Krishna program had him assassinated. 

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com

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The Vaishnava Foundation (Kailasachandra dasa): 

Nobody says to worship phantom-madhyams, rascal. 

PD: Kailasa wrote a paper for the GBC in 1990, we need to worship a Madhyam. His followers constantly argue with us that we should worship a Madhyam. Since there is none, they are promoting the worship of nothing. Why does Kailasa folks never name their Madhyam guru? Because he does not exist. All glories to nothing! 

*** In practically all of his articles, Kailasa Prabhu encourages everyone to worship Śrīla Prabhupāda as śikṣā-guru, and those who were actually initiated by him as dīkṣā-guru as well. 

PD: Right, so when the Kailasa people say our training people to offer bhogha to the pure devotee is "the karta bhaja sahajiya Christian idea," that means Kailasa is saying Srila Prahbupada is teaching the Christian idea of saying grace before a meal? Well yes he is, Srila Prabhupada says worship of Jesus is worship of a pure devotee. Why does Kailasa want people to NOT offer their bhogha to the pure devotee and he says that "saying grace to Jesus" is sahajiya Christian? Kailasa is the world's leader of the bhogha-eater society, he is advocating eating un-offered bhogha, claiming that offering bhogha is like saying grace to Jesus. I forgot, we need to say grace to the (non-uttama) Kailasa gurus who can become asuras. That is what the GBC says? Sorry, offering bhogha to the pure devotee is a process given by Srila Prahbupada and he never said offering food to the pure devotee is the karta bhaja crypto Christian "saying grace to Jesus" deviation. You guys are making things up wholesale.

*** That doesn't include the rascal rittviks, however, who falsely claim to be initiated by him. They aren't initiated by Prabhupāda, and he doesn't take their sañcita-karma either, because that is a cheating concoction in defiance of all Vaiṣṇava tradition. 

PD: Srila Prabhupada says just by reading my books they are initiated, which means they are getting divyam jnanam that destroys sins. Why does Kailasa keep saying worship of the pure devotee does not save us from sins? I forgot, Kailasa wants us to worship the Madhyam who can become an asura. And eat food offered to same. Why is Kailasa saying that prasadam, saying grace to the pure devotee, is the Christian idea? When we all know offering bhogha to the PURE DEVOTEE is Srila Prabhupada's idea. Why are we training people to stop offering their bhogha to the pure devotee claiming this is Christian's grace praying? 

*** You cannot become initiated by a non-manifest spiritual master on an institutional, mass scale. That is completely bogus, especially when you have practically no evidence backing it whatsoever. Where did Prabhupada ever say, no gurus after me? NOWHERE!! 

PD: You cannot get any divyam jnanam that destroys sins by worship of a pure devotee? Then how do people get their sins absolved? I forgot, they worship a person who can become an asura. Kailasa thinks the Vedas have no knowledge that destroys sins, and the Atheists say the same thing. Kailasa is a sock puppet of the atheists. Yes I argue with atheists from time to time, and they speak exactly like Kailasa "there is no divyam jnanam that destroys sins in the Vedas." Why are you guys preaching mayavada and atheist's ideas for 30 years now? Srila Prabhupada says just by touchng my book theur are purified, you say there is no purifification there. Atheist. 

*** You rascal rittviks are simply an imitation of Churchianity. But Jesus Christ doesn't know you whatsoever, nor is he part of any of the four disciplic successions mentioned in the Padma-Purāṇa, which are described as the only means for liberation. The fact that you have to grovel at the feet of bogus Christians for some so-called legitimacy of your heresy speaks volumes. Why not use guru sadhu shastra to establish your bogus claim instead? Answer: You can't, cause its BOGUS!! 

PADA: So when the Kailasa people tell us that offerings to the pure devotee is like the Christians offering prayers to Jesus, that means our people cannot offer their bhogha to the pure devotee. Why does Kailsa want people to eat unoffered bhogha and die in a sinful state? I forgot, he wants us to offer bhogha to people who can become asuras. Why is Kailasa always repeating Ravindra swarupa? Ravindra also says we need to offer bhogha to the people who can become asuras. Why is Ravindra swarupa the authority of Kailasa, and Kailasa is writing papers for Ravindra in 1990? Kailasa has never understood, Ravindra is not our guru. It is also amazing that when we save people from eating meat, Kailasa says we are not saving them from sins. Kailasa does not even know eating meat is a sin? And that is what happens to people who become sock puppets of the GBC, like Kailasa. ys pd

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COMPARING BG UNCHANGED VS CHANGED / PURE SPIRITUAL VS MIXED MOVEMENTS' SALES NUMBERS

Proponents of West Bengal GBC run ISKCON and of changed books dandy about "massive" current book distribution numbers, stating:

“If we are discussing whether the later edition harmed Bhagavad-gita distribution, then the actual sales and distribution numbers are worth looking at, because Srila Prabhupada clearly wanted his books to be distributed as widely as possible and did not want anything to hamper that mission.

In the 1976 BBT report presented to Srila Prabhupada, Ramesvara Prabhu gave the Bhagavad-gita figures in detail: Total Bhagavad-gita sales in English for 1976: 622,000 copies, not counting what was printed in India.

For 2025, the BBT reported more than 5.8 million copies of Bhagavad-gita As It Is distributed worldwide. So the comparison is simple:

1976: 622,000 English Bhagavad-gitas, excluding India

2025: 5.8+ million Bhagavad-gitas worldwide

That is more than nine times the documented 1976 figure. From a devotee’s perspective, this also shows that Srila Prabhupada’s mercy and blessings are fully present in today’s book distribution. Without his mercy, blessings, teachings, and the movement He established, devotees would not be reaching a figure like 5.8 million Bhagavad-gitas in a single year.”

ANSWER: These sorry numbers actually make the opposite point. These numbers seem big, but they are a pittance. Under the pure devotional energy of Srila Prabhupada and his disciples' intertwined desires, book distribution doubled yearly.

• 1976: 622,000 Bhagavad-gītās sold in English alone, excluding India.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/.../calcutta/january/16/1977

• January 1977: Ramesvara described a 1.5-million-copy hardbound printing as being “for one year’s sales.” That was already about 2.4 times the previous year's 622,000 figure.

https://prabhupadabooks.com/.../jan/bombay/january/09/1977
• February 1977: the BBT reported almost three million Gītās in print.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/transcripts/770224r1may/
• May 1977: Srila Prabhupada expressly praised the devotees for “working so hard to double the book distribution this year.”

https://vedabase.io/.../letters/letter-to-ramesvara-74/
• October 1977: referring to the 1.5-million-copy printing, Ramesvara told Srila Prabhupada: “Next year we are planning to double it.”

https://vanisource.org/.../771010_-_Conversation_B...
• May 1978: Back to Godhead reported more than three million Bhagavad-gītās sold since 1976.

https://back2godhead.com/every-town-and-village-4/
Taking conservative estimates:

| Year | Hypothetical annual distribution |

| -------- | -------------------------------: |
| 1978 | 2.5 million |
| 1979 | 5 million |
(2025 FIGURE OF ALL LANGUAGE BGs WOULD HAVE REACHED SOMETIME IN 1980 IN ENGLISH ALONE!!!!)
| 1980 | 10 million |
| 1981 | 20 million |
| 1982 | 40 million |
| 1983 | 80 million |
| 1984 | 160 million |
| 1985 | 320 million |
| 1990 | 10.24 billion |
By 1988 - ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE HAD THE BG!!!!!
JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, IF IT HAD CONTINUED, one would have had to go to other planets:
| 1995 | 327.68 billion |
| 2000 | 10.49 trillion |
| 2005 | 335.54 trillion |
| 2010 | 10.74 quadrillion |
| 2015 | 343.60 quadrillion |
| 2020 | 10.995 quintillion |
| **2025** | **351.84 quintillion** |
So, per this conservative calculation, the BG distribution has almost ground to a halt - just going on from past energy at the 1979/80 numbers, like when the fan is switched off!
If this is not a symptom of an almost finished SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT, then what is?

ISKCON Splintering / Iran / Children? / Madhyam Guru / Rupanuga 09 07 26

PADA: ISKCON is splintering and disintegrating, even they are mentioning more and more. ys pd

PADA: Who knew? How about all the military experts in the previous administrations -- who said attacking Iran would be a disaster for the USA, and the world. The MAGA people just removed and fired anyone who does not agree with the actual military analysis of the experts. 

Now we have all sorts of food safety recalls going on left and right -- including my favorite frozen berries -- because the food safety people were all fired. And health services Robert Kennedy is announcing he is closing thousands of old age homes, because the Medicaid is only supposed to cover 100 days and most of them are living over 100 days. 

He said they are not dying fast enough. So lets make them homeless, and die on the street? So all this collectively looks like -- mis-managing, and it is no small amount of dangerous and cruel too. 

When the government says, our citizens are not dying fast enough, that sort of sounds like diabolical Orwellian novel writing? So the MAGA people don't like those calling them out on these things, hey just like ISKCON does not like those of us calling them out on their things! But this is always the same process with these neo-cons, we are going to carpet bomb Iran, Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Afghanistan etc. and "win." Win what? 

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com   

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WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?

At the largest Hare Krishna community in North America, on one of the largest holidays - Anapayini Jakupko spoke about the children of ISKCON. The survivors of the past, the current "children" who are all grown up, and the children she has, sees, and works with everyday at her school. She asked some hard questions and I am incredibly grateful; and hopeful that our society keeps this conversation at the forefront.

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MADYAM GURU UPDATE

​ @Hasya-rati Yes, Srila Prabhupada said all of us would eventually initiate our own disciples, but he never implemented that. We do not know if they would have been ritviks or what? It was never done. Nor was a Madhyam guru implemented.

He said a lot of things, including that the Madhyam is insufficient guidance, he has to be careful (because he can fail), has no brahmana tejyas, he is a potential asura etc. So we are sticking with worship of the uttama, and we are not going to worship the GBC and Kailasa potential asuras.

I find it rather odd that the GBC announced that Kailasa wrote their Madhyam guru paper, and ever since then the Kailasa people want me to distribute the same writings the GBC is promoting. The Kailasa people have no idea, I am not hand in glove with the GBC?

The answer to the question is simple, he said a lot of things, and he also said the guru must be an uttama, resident of Krishna loka, Krishna lingita vigraha, a personal associate of Krishna, and thousands of similar quotes. But yeah, Kailasa wants us to worship a potential asura, and so does the GBC.

Meanwhile Kailasa cannot name his alleged Madhyam, so he is literally arguing about the non existing nothingness, which is mayavada. He does not even have a name for this guru, which means he is arguing about the non-existing nothingness, which is mayavada.

At least the ritviks have an actual name for their actual guru and they do not promote worship of no one and nothing. Worship of no one and nothing is not our system and it is amazing Kailasa does not know that. All glories to nothing is mayavada. Why is Kailasa telling our people to stop worship of the pure devotee, and worship -- nothing? ys pd

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I already cited Srila Prahbupada, he said the Madhyam is insufficient guidance, he cannot take sins, he does not have brahmana tejyas, he might become an asura, etc.. That is what he says. And it is self evident Kailasa wants to promote people who can become asuras as gurus, because the GBC circulates his papers. You keep asking me to cite Srila Prabhupada and I have over and over.

Agreed. A person who can become an asura has not fallen yet, but he can, the potential is there. So Kailasa wants people to gamble that maybe his Madhyam will not fail, maybe he will, this is called speculation. The premise is that a Madhyam is not recommended and the Nectar of Instruction says we should only accept an uttama. OK that means do not accept Kailsa's idea that we should worship potential asuras and follow the Kailasa writings distributed by the GBC. 

I have no idea why you want us to follow the writings distributed by the GBC, we are not their followers? Srila Prabhupada says the guru must be a resident of Krishna loka, a potential asura is not a resident of Krishna loka. Why don't you know these things?

Even our basic bhaktas know, a person who can become an asura should not be worshiped when they are already worshiping and utttama. Why do you want them to stop worship of the uttama and worship potential asuras? And don't you see how much trouble you cause with this idea?

I also said I agree 100% with Kailasa, the people who promote persons who can fail and fall are called sahajiyas. They do not worship the liberated uttama, and that is why they are sahajiyas. He is right. ys pd

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LAST LETTER FROM RUPANUGA PRABHU

The last letter that I received from Rupanuga, who disappeared two days back, was a message that he mailed a few months ago to all the devotees in his e-group. I do not have that that letter any longer, but in it he was objecting to the unique "dancing" form of Shrimati Radha at Columbus "ISKCON," whose dancing pose appears (also to me) somewhat bent or awkward.

I was the TP of Columbus for a few months in 1971 after the sankirtan accident that killed Jananivas, who founded the original temple, and which left me paralyzed for a time. Naturally, I congratulate the Indian congregation there in Columbus for progressing Prabhupada's movement. However, it appears to be a totally Hinduized socio-religious enterprise. Of course, it would be too much to ask any member there to show any interest in the history and struggle of how the temple came to be originally.

As expected of the Indians in the West, they seem absolutely incapable of following Prabhupada's example of convincing Westerners -- white, black, or Hispanic -- of the message of Bhagavad-gita As It Is as Guru Maharaja convinced us. From the website, it appears that ISKCON Columbus has unapologetically morphed into another center of Hinduized "Krishna consciousness" where "I'm OK and you're OK" as long as we bob and wiggle our heads, smiling in friendly agreement.

Was Rupanuga's criticism of the dancing Radha correct? Malati wrote on the thread that she strongly disagreed with him. Please share your thoughts in the comments. ISKCON Columbus website:
https://youtu.be/CVTxh2sRKcs?is=RwBu8wlBwAPZGJBn

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Srila Prabhupada beloved disciple, RUPANUGA PRABHU has left this earth.

A great soul has departed.

My humble obeisances to feet of Rupanuga prabhuji.

I appreciate sincerity of his dedicated services, love over 60 years, initial GBC member, to spread Srila Prabhupada Hare Krishna movement. If he decides to come back on this Earth to protect Srila Prabhupada movement, I love to be his servant & dedicate my entire life to help him. Radha Shayamsunderji has plan for this pure Vaishnava.

Please listen his interview video. He cried few times just remembering Srila Prabhupada. He answered very serious questions very politely & precisely.
Watching become emotional towards eternity. Love shall be bonded between Srila Prabhupada & us. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada Hare Krishna

G Dasi 

A Dasi

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BOOK CHANGES

John Yadunandan Das: "Adopting the revised books has involved a choice to accept some official decree as if Srila Prabhupada's works are some mundane scholarship like the continually updated Oxford English Dictionary. Imagine having a great work of architecture and then changing it to suit a preference of style, such as modernizing a Gothic structure until it looks like a warehouse, all while claiming it to be the design of the original architect. In the publishing world it is not acceptable to rewrite a book while calling it the same book. 

Such an act is ludicrous. An annotated edition can leave the text untouched. To eliminate paintings is further unacceptable. The posthumous editing amounts to viewing oneself as a sort of co-author, equal to the author, and entitled to make changes."
I have posted about Rupanuga Prabhu's departure, He was against the post humous book changes. I received a first-class comment from Yadunandan Prabhu. No slander, name calling, demonizing, etc... He nails it and demonstrtes that those who are against the post humous book changers don't have to resort to ad hominems. Well done Yadunandan Prabhu! ~ Gaura dasa
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Rupanuga Prabhu covers many topics in this monumental discussion. 

He reads from his essay entitled: A LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE OF THE WORLD TODAY Rupanuga das, ACBSP. A LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE OF THE WORLD TODAY According to Srila Prabhupada-vani, “At present, this world is being managed by the Raksasas. The Raksasas are man-eaters who eat their own sons (p. 41 Raja-Vidhya)," and "At present, especially on this planet earth, the influence of Lord Brahma has decreased considerably and the representatives of Hiranyakasipu—the Raksasas and demons –have taken charge. 

"Therefore there is no protection of brahminical culture and cows, which are the basic prerequisites for all kinds of good fortune. This age is very dangerous because society is being managed by demons and Raksasas (SB 7.3.13, end of purport).” 

Years ago, in college student days, having read a popular “underground” book, entitled “None Dare Call It Conspiracy,” which in essence indicated that the world was being controlled and manipulated by a few extremely wealthy and powerful families, and having later read the above quote in Srila Prabhupada’s Raja-vidya, two devotees approached Srila Prabhupada (circa 1974) at his quarters in Mayapur Dham. 

Some of the names mentioned in “None Dare Call It Conspiracy” were still very much influential in the world, and he was asked if the these were the Raksasas he was referring to? Srila Prabhupada replied, “Yes.” These Raksasas are not passive. Their well-evolved matrix or infrastructure of control covers the whole planet and their minions are involved in every aspect of modern societies and nations, including political, scientific, legal, educational, economic, military, etc. --endeavors all around the world—an international, very deep state. 

Absolute control, mastership, over whatever they survey, is the goal of the Raksasa agenda, at any cost, and their seemingly unlimited financial strength is a means to that end. “Now great regimes have been created to smash so many people for the satisfaction the Raksasa’s senses (p.41).” 

And this smashing is coming in so many ways besides war, and it will come to that also, if what’s described below continues. The current global chaos is being revealed or unfolded as an epic story of karma and the laws of material nature. Since the time of Lord Buddha, 2600 years ago, who appeared primarily to stop (ahimsa) cow killing in an India much greater in size than today, those slaughterhouses have now covered the globe. In addition, facilities have been constructed for billions of innocent land animals and sea creatures to be slaughtered annually. 

Over the centuries, the world has become a killing field. The free-will of human beings has brought all this about simply for the satisfaction of the human tongue. The propaganda that one must eat meat or flesh, including fish and eggs, in order to be strong and healthy, is contradicted in nature. 

The strongest animals on earth, namely the gorilla, the elephant, the hippopotamus and the giraffe are all vegetarians. (One video demonstrated how a giraffe easily kicked a pursuing lion high in the air!) The killing field includes human abortions. It may be uncertain which of the many human abortions are abortions of those who themselves caused abortions in the past, like parents or surgeons, who are getting their just karma. In any case, Srilla Prabhupada comments (L.A., 5/26/72 lecture SB 2.3.9): “…that one chance given that it will get a body and come out, and may be able to come to Krishna consciousness, that opportunity is lost … he’s being killed within the womb.” 

Undoubtedly, much karma is coming upon the people of the world for the millions upon millions of abortions each year. Another thing is certain: the dairy cows and all the other animals and sea creatures being slaughtered every moment are innocent! It is not their karma. Dairy cows are meant to take birth in their next life as human beings in the mode of goodness. In Vedic culture, the cow and bull are considered one’s mother and father. And as Lord Chaitanya criticized the Kazi, “What is this religion that allows killing of the father and mother?” 

In a real sense, is not killing and eating such a father and mother another cannibalism? So much free-will killing of children and innocent creatures has not been sanctioned, what to speak of the many offenses to mother nature, in the name of progress and industrialization? It’s over. The karmic pay-back is here. The modes of material nature rule, and “As ye sow, so shall ye reap.” Devotees are in the karma and vikarma world, but not of it. During a lecture in Hawaii, 1/23/74, SB 11.16.26-30, Srila Prabhupada explained, “Trying to avoid offenses, that is namabhas. 

Namabhas means not actually pure name, but almost pure…In namabhas stage, not pure, marginal, between pure and offensive, there is mukti, you become mukta, liberated from material bondage.” This means beyond the control of the karmas which control the general population and pseudo devotees. He goes on to explain that such a sincere chanter, although sometimes a little mechanical, by force, still he is not a showbottle. This means such a devotee is beyond the pale of the present karmic interactions, actors and demands. 

He / she must use intelligence regarding one’s own health, as Srila Prabhupada once said, “The duration of life is our most precious possession.” Since Raksasas are in control according to Srila Prabhupada, therefore, anything being promoted by those in charge of communications or programs as being for the greater good, well being, or benefit of anyone should simply be seen as the opposite of the truth. 

The Raksasas identified by His Divine Grace, are cannibals eating their own sons, and doubtless the sons of others when they ran out of their own. Policies implemented by these predators and their followers must be ignored as conspiracies and circumvented. Research concerning the truthfulness or falsity of circumstances surrounding Covid-19 is correct, if it leads to exposure of the sinister agenda of the Raksasas. In other words, if the sinister agenda of the Raksasa’s operating principle is behind everything-- according to Srila Prabhupada-- then the world-wide implementation of the inoculations is sinister, since nothing that extensive could be beyond the Rakshasa’s control. 

Common sense. Therefore, devotees are beyond any proposed universal obligation to accept inoculations. Never mind the claims of politicians and professionals who insist otherwise, because they are leaders blind to messages of Srila Prabhupada intended for everyone’s benefit. And devotees advising against this explanation should be avoided. 

The Raksasas and their minions believe they are in control, but actually they themselves are under the control of the modes of material nature. They are behaving as expected, and simultaneously acting as delivery systems for global karma. In effect, there is a cleansing process going on world-wide to prepare or clear the path for Lord Caitanya’s Movement, in this year 535 Gaurabda, the Golden Age. At the same time, there is a “boiling of the milk” going forward within that Movement, a boiling which Srila Prabhupada began prior to his disappearance. 

As long as the slaughterhouses remain open, the cleansing and “culling” of the general population will continue. The “boiling of the milk” will also continue as needed. Hare Krishna. All glories to Srila Prabhupada, the World Acarya. Your servant, Rupanuga das (ACBSP’66). Please forward to interested parties. Thank you. 

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With regards to completing the Bhagavatam, I remembered that Pradyumna prabhu said Srila Prabhupada asked Pradyumna prabhu to complete the Bhagavatam , in his absence, and if he had any questions, to take the guidance of BR Sridhara deva Maharaja: Pradyumna Prabhu: Prabhupada called me in when he was getting a mas- sage. He asked me, “So, in my absence, you can complete the Srimad-Bhagavatam?” I said, “Yes, Prabhupada I’ll try to do that.” “Yes,” he said, “Okay, good.” I said, “If I have questions, I could ask Sridhar Maharaj?” 

He said, “Yes, you can ask him questions, yes, that’s good.” I was right there in the Krishna-Balaram Temple in Vrindavan, but I wasn’t around Prabhupada too much in the final weeks, because for the final part of the Bhagavatam, Prabhupada asked me to do the verse translations, and that took all my time. I would read all the commentaries, translate the verse, do the synonyms, and then read it to Prabhupada. 

Then we would hold the microphone to his lips, and he would dictate the purport. That’s how the last volume was produced, and that kept me occupied because I had to have everything ready to read. It would take a lot to make sure it was right. After I read it I would go back to my room to work on the next verses. 

Anytime Prabhupada was ready to do more, I had to be ready. I couldn’t say, “I’m not ready,” because that would mean a Bhagavatam verse and purport that people wouldn’t have. So for the last weeks, that’s basically what I was doing. I was in the compound, but I was always translating as fast as I could. Read more: https://vanipedia.org/wiki/Pradyumna_das_Remembers_Srila_Prabhupada#ixzz7MgOd558a

PADA: To PADA it looks like the rakshasa man eating, children exploiting etc. society is the GBC gurus process : Which Rupanuga supported against me and Sulochana. 

They are asking for donations for his funeral, at least it looks like he separated himself from ISKCON later on and the GBC is not funding his ending ceremony. I think he partially came to the right idea, but he just could not admit that Srila Prabhuada IS THE ACHARYA for all of us, and for everyone else. 

It is not a special senior devotee club, which is rapidly heading toward the graveyard. Srila Prabhupada should have been the acharya us and for the newcomers, and we wasted several generations not making him the acharya. ys pd   

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PADA VS RUPANUGA DASA: 

The next problem is with Rupanuga, he now says formal initiation is no longer required. Don't even worry about it! Everybody should accept that Srila Prabhupada is the the SHIKSHA guru of ISKCON, and now we do not need to worry about for example, having trained up Brahmanas to conduct deity worship, there won't be any more trained up Brahmanas, because the whole process of initiating [as required for deity pooja] stops.

We no longer require initiated persons to conduct the deity program -- at all? Yep! No one needs to be initiated to do the function of deity pooja anymore! Srila Prabhupada installed all of these deities, with the idea that the Brahmanas who worshiped them would all die off and there would be no one to replace them? And that is what has happened, most USA temples have a severe shortage of deity personnel.     

What happens then, we put all the deities into boxes and warehouse storage?
I'm not sure where Srila Prabhupada said that the deity worship should no longer be conducted after he departs, or that it no longer requires trained up initiated Brahmanas to conduct the program? Rather, this seems like another eccentric concoction from these people. Worse, this makes it sound like Rupanuga really wants Krishna's worship to be STOPPED entirely. We will no longer have His worship or pooja going on? Where is this ordered?

First of all, Rupanuga said we need to take initiation from his 11 conditioned souls acharyas, like Kirtanananda swami. And Rupanuga adamantly supported the idea that these conditions souls can act as another Jesus - like sin absorbing Messiah. Did we forget to mention, that concocted scheme didn't seem to work out very well for Rupanuga and his pals?

And so now he's sour grapes, lets end all diksha, and he is changing his tune, by saying there is no need for any formal initiation process at all. So now, there is not going to be any source of "divyam jnanam which destroys sins" (diksha) in ISKCON. Then, how can people make progress, if there is no source of divyam jnanam which destroys their sins (diksha)? 

Never mind, we won't even have deity pooja going on anymore either, because we will chop off the whole process of initiating poojaris? And who will cook for the deity if there are no initiated people to do that? Krishna has to starve now?

Srila Prabhupada says that Jesus is accepting the sins of his followers even now, but Rupanuga says -- there's no need for people to have their sins absolved anymore. They'll just keep their sins, and, stay here in the material world? So it seems like Rupanuga simply wants to keep the mass of people stuck here, trapped here in the meshes of suffering, death and MAYA, with no escape plan.

How will people be liberated when we say they no longer need "knowledge which destroys sins," aka diksha? How is that going to work? How can we have a religion based on -- we are no longer going to give the knowledge which destroys sins (diksha)?

Look at any religion, they have a path to get knowledge (di -- divyam jnanam) to destroy the sins (ksha) for their followers. How can anyone approach God unless they are getting knowledge which destroys their sins? Rupanuga is making no sense at all, he has changed up the entire Vedic process.

The ACTUAL process for today, and forever actually, is to get knowledge which destroys sins. That is how we approach this issue, it cannot be changed. Worse, the next problem with Rupanuga is that he defies another of Srila Prabhupada's direct instructions, Srila Prabhupada says that neophytes CANNOT absorb sins like Jesus, but Rupanuga encouraged all sorts of his conditioned soul God brothers to take the post of diksha gurus and to ABSORB sins left, right and center.

A diksha guru has to be as qualified as Jesus, to absorb these sins. Rupanuga has never explained how or where Srila Prabhupada made this proclamation, that henceforward, neophytes could absorbs sins just like Jesus? When was this order given?

In fact, Srila Prabhupada said the exact opposite! He said that when we neophytes act as diksha gurus and absorb sins, we will be overwhelmed by these sins, and because of that, these neophytes will eventually fail, they will fall down, get sick or both, and of course if a person gets sick enough he DIES.

Rupanuga's plan to save his God brothers, and the world?

We find no indication that Rupanuga can substantiate his claim that our neophytes can absorb sins like Jesus? This "order" was never made by Srila Prabhupada. Isn't Rupanuga's encouraging neophytes to absorb sins killing his God brothers both spiritually and even materially?

Sorry! We only find evidence of the opposite instruction, that it is not feasible nor possible for neophytes to take up other's sins and dispose of them. Rather, they are going to fall down, get sick and / or DIE, it then seems like Rupanuga is harming if not KILLING his God brothers by telling them they are as qualified as Jesus. This is then causing these brothers to fail, if not die.

Now in the Christian religion they claim that their source of spiritual knowledge and the source of having one's sins washed away or absorbed is Jesus. Rupanuga says that in ISKCON we have no such source of this function, that's it, its all over now. The only good news is that he is admitting that his previous directive of telling neophyte people to take sins and act as diksha gurus was a BAD IDEA, and he has caused many people to get sick, fall down if not DIE, by encouraging them on the WRONG path.

When is Rupanuga just going to admit, his ideas are bogus and harmful?