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https://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/tax-exempted-institutions

ISKCON BOMBAY's TAX EXEMPT STATUS

"Why Business May Still be As Usual"

Recently Basu Ghosh wrote to temple presidents in India who are in the ISKCON Mumbai group of temples and in that email he informed them that they may continue with "business as usual." In the United States, donors may rely on a search of the official IRS page at https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos regarding donations to assure them that a particular organization is still recognized as exempt. 

The donors are then assured that donations to that organization will be deductible as charitable contributions. However, if the IRS revokes the 501(c)(3) organization status of a particular organization and later posts it, a search again on that website will show the revocation. Up until the IRS updates their data, donors (except corporate insiders) may deduct charitable contributions. However, after that date of update, no taxpayer may deduct donations to such organizations. It appears that India has the same -- temporary delay -- system.

Indian companies and individuals who want to be able to know that they may deduct on their income tax return the amount of their future donations to ISKCON Mumbai must search through https://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/tax-exempted-institutions and put in the box under "Pan" the PAN (Permanent Account Number") of International Society for Krishna Consciousness (Mumbai), which is AAATI0017P. 

Today, at the top of that page, under the heading "Exempted Institutions", is "Last Updated: April 6th, 2026". The listing would be updated every 2-3 months. From the point that the listing of ISKCON Mumbai has been changed to show that they lost their exemption under section 80G section 133, companies and individuals may not deduct donations to ISKCON Mumbai. 

From the date of such a public internet update ISKCON Mumbai may not indicate on websites or solicitation materials that it is an exempt organizations nor that donations to it are deductible as charitable contributions.

The article at https://studycafe.in/reliance-iskcon-pd-hinduja-hospital-and-breach-candy-hospital-trust-to-income-tax-exemption-denial-over-commercial-activity-allegations-419586.html was dated May 6, 2026. Therefore, updates to the search engine data for ISKCON Bombay on Incometaxindia.gov should soon be made.

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Ravindra Swarup dasa


*** Expanded the 11 fake messiahs to over 100.


*** Physically assaulted the "ritviks" for challenging his
pedophile messiahs project.


*** His main idea? "ISKCON's children must worship
his homosexuals and pedophile messiahs as their path to God."

Leading the Hare Krishna Movement

The Crisis of Succession in the International Society for Krishna Consciousness

By Angela R. Burt (Disciple of Ravindra Swarupa)

ABSTRACT

This book examines issues of leadership and succession in the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) which was founded in by A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada in 1966. After the founder’s death in 1977, the movement was led by a group of gurus in a "zonal system" until their authority was challenged and reformed in the mid-1980s. 

PADA: The "crisis" was artificially created when people like Ravindra swarupa made his homosexual and pedophile pals and assorted deviants into "God's successors." And he helped Satsvarupa promote that Kirtanananda (a homosexual pedophile) is "like Jesus, Haridas Thakur and Prahlad" -- so he could make me and Sulochana targets for assassination. And then have his pedo buddies buried in samadhis in the dham. 

There was also no reform or change to the Zonal Guru system. The same gurus who were in charge of various areas remained there. The newer gurus were assigned other "lesser" areas. For example Bhakti Vikas was given the less significant Zone of Salem India, while his mentor and sannyasa guru Jayapataka kept the crown jewel of Mayapur. Nothing actually changed for the original Zone holders.

And every year these gurus are assigned often the same Zones, same as before. Worse, as part of the reform, they re-instated Bhavananda as Vishnupada, despite reports he was engaged in oral sex with taxi drivers in the holy dham.

At the heart of the book is an exploration of the developments, conflicts, and defining characteristics of leadership in ISKCON in this decade. Themes of hierarchy, status, power and authority, and the routinisation of charisma are shown to be keys to understanding the events of the time. 

PADA: I personally never felt any of the 11 had any charisma. Satsvarupa was always a geeky guy who was later hiding out living in Howard Johnson Motels. He does not conduct emotional kirtans, leading samkirtan or preaching of any significance, but neither do most of them. Hansadutta was a drunk. Bhagavan was arrogant. Kirtanananda had a gay vibe. And so on. 

Never felt any charisma vibes from any of them. People keep telling me Kirtanananda had a lot of charisma ... ok but only ... for them to worship. I always viewed him as a Mott Street bum who came across a place to exploit and make himself a position. 

Never had a lot of respect for the guy. And I considered him as potentially dangerous since he had a propensity to challenge Srila Prabhupada. OK the opposite of me feeling ANY charisma. I saw him as a potential for trouble, and he was.

With careful analysis of interviews and documentary evidence, the research offers a unique insight into ISKCON as an organisation and the broader religious community in which ISKCON is located. The book will be of particular interest to scholars of new religious movements and those concerned with religious leadership.

PADA: There was no leadership. Devotees were being banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed and there was no real checks and balances. If the leaders of a company bankrupt the company, and create one scandal after the next, they will be fired and sued for destroying the company. 

In the film The Paper Chase, two law students break into an enclosed area of the Harvard Law School to gain access to their professor's notes. On locating them, one student asks: “Do you realise what this is? This is it. This. This is the unbroken chain. This is the ageless passing of wisdom”. He reads the notes:

After all I am almost the living extension of the old judges. Where would they be without me? I carry in my mind the cases they wrote. Where the hell would they be if it wasn't for me? Who would hang their pictures if there were no law students? It's hard being the living extension of tradition.

(The Paper Chase 1973)

PADA: Yeah, they started calling homosexuals and pedophiles the unbroken chain from Krishna. Sorry, that is about as broke as it gets.

A crisis of charismatic leadership in the post-succession period

Many of us here, older Godbrothers, are very concerned in two ways—

1) that the 11 gurus not having been appointed to the position of acarya and for which they are unqualified both by: 

a. the insufficient knowledge of sastra and 

b. the incomplete realization of Krsna consciousness, are accepting worship on that level—and this may lead to anomalies in the society and personally, because of lack of complete detachment in atmajnana, leading to a buildup of pride and subsequent falldown, and 

2) that the united society ISKCON, because of illegal division and control by a few members instead of the joint GBC will become broken up in separate societies and the unified preaching effort very much hindered.

PADA: The gurus were not appointed. Well yeah, so why did Ravindra and others support that the 11 are gurus -- if none of them were ever appointed as gurus? Yup. NOT HAVING BEEN APPOINTED. That means they usurped the post of acharya.

 

The zonal acharya system was this very archaic style of management and I am not saying it's wrong. But it requires a different civilisation.

PADA: No, all civilizations reject worshiping deviants as messiahs.

Experiences of disciples of the gurus and women

My dear godbrothers, it was too much too soon, they weren't pure devotees, they weren't able to handle it … I'm not blasting them because if I had been in the situation where I would have -- you know -- hundreds of people bowing down before me throwing me money … we had gone from an absolute to a relative. With Srila Prabhupada it was an absolute and with the godbrother gurus it was relative and it became increasingly difficult … to remain inspired.

PADA: So they were not appointed and not pure devotees, so the whole thing was a scam.

Long-term effects of the zonal acharya system and the guru reform movement

I wouldn't have left if I could have been a guru in a different way. I wouldn't have felt I was living a nightmare. 

PADA: Well yeah the devotees who were being banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed were and are living a nightmare. Why did Ravindra support the GBC program, and he attacked us thus co-creating the nightmare? 

That could have saved people like me. I think people can have a completely different concept of guru without thinking of them as having completely realised experiences of Radha-Krishna and Govinda in Goloka Vrindavan. 

PADA: OK a less realized guru is a shiksha guru or a ritvik, exactly what we said. Except Ravindra would not allow us to promote that process.

Hierarchy, status, and the distribution of power and authority

The great tension was how to hold these gurus together within the institution of ISKCON, and ISKCON was struggling mightily to do that.

PADA: They were not kept together, one by one the gurus left, often in scandals, and often took a bunch of followers with them. Or they lead people away to Sridhar or Narayan or others and that siphoned off people en masse. 

Systemic and individual issues in religious leadership in ISKCON

I think it was less a matter of an adjustment or two, than a pattern of behaviour over time, a repetitive pattern that said something's wrong intrinsically here. It's not just an individual or two individuals; there's something that's happening because it's so pervasive now. … Structure is not per se wrong … don't condemn the system, condemn the people who manipulate that system to the wrong end.

PADA: The system is, everyone has to promote conditioned souls as absolute or be driven out. Sorry, that is the wrong structure from square one. We cannot make conditioned souls into absolute and realized souls artificially, it won't work, and never has worked, and never will work.

Conclusion

 

I think ISKCON's main strength … is its ability to be self-correcting. The decision to restore or give authority to the GBC … those are decisions that at one point would not have been possible … but enough people saw reason and had the welfare of the institution in mind to agree to move somewhat to a different position. No institution that is not self-correcting is going to survive.

PADA: There was no correction made. The gurus are still being worshiped as absolute and those who disagree are still being exiled and punished, or even sued. ys pd

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KARMA AND MISTREATING DEVOTEES

PADA: Notice that lots of devotees are talking about persons who abuse their authority, and then the abusers seem to think their karma is non-existing, and they are not in trouble. Not so fast! Karma is always going to apply -- eventually. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  


Jagannath Nitya Dasi

The evil one was arrogantly asked, “When will he face the consequences of his wrongdoings?” The answer is simple: the consequences of karma are already on their way.

The greatest delusion of the wicked is -- believing that a delayed consequence is a canceled debt. 

No empire built on the blood, sweat, tears, and suffering of innocent people survives forever. Every enjoyment, from sensual pleasures to luxury gained through injustice, from the pain of innocents, carries a curse within it. Cruelty may appear powerful for a time, but destruction is already growing inside it.

When a man spends his life torturing his innocent wife and children, he does not merely harm them — he commits a crime against the very fabric of justice itself. He takes the peace, dignity, resources, and lifeblood that rightfully belonged to others.

Then he feeds his corrupt companions with the profits of that cruelty and mistakes their greed for loyalty. But parasites are never loyal.

The people surrounding him do not love him; they love what they can extract from him. They feed on his ego, his wealth, and his wrongdoing like vultures feeding on a dying body. The same people applauding his cruelty today will become the architects of his downfall tomorrow.

Because nothing built on shattered innocence can stand forever.

The lies, manipulation, abuse, and deceit they use to dominate their society or even legal family are already eroding their own life from within. The same deceit that lifted them will become the weapon that destroys them. The suffering they inflicted upon innocent souls will return with greater force. The betrayal, harm, and destruction they spread into the lives of innocents will slowly consume their own world piece by piece.

They believe that because consequences have been delayed, they escaped them.

Profoundly mistaken. The universe keeps an absolute ledger, and every injustice creates a debt. People who built their lives upon greed, oppression, and blood money are living on borrowed time. Their pleasures are temporary distractions hiding an irreversible collapse. And when the downfall finally arrives, the very people who stood beside them celebrating corruption will drag each other into ruin to save themselves.

Consequence is the law of the universe.

Every act of cruelty leaves a mark upon the one who commits it. Every abuse digs a grave inside the soul of the abuser long before the world witnesses the collapse.
Karma is not merely a distant punishment waiting in the future.

Karma is the slow destruction already unfolding beneath the surface while the wicked mistake temporary comfort for victory. And when the illusion finally shatters, they will stand alone in the ruins of a life destroyed by their own hands.

Illusion: The collapse is not coming.

It has already begun. 

#LawOfKarma #ExistentialJustice #Consequences #MoralLaw #Truth See less

Message to Padambhuja / Bangalore is Correct 05 25 26

CANCER EPIDEMIC

PADA: Oh oh pilgrims, another youngish devotee lady -- 40 yrs old maybe -- has had to have surgery and chemotherapy for cancer. This is another example of something amiss in the devotee community. I decided not to give her name, but I wish her well. 

She said "this was totally un-expected," well yeah, but this is repeating all too often. It is almost expected! My Mormon nurse advisor says, the Krishna devotees are doing something toxic, I think it is stress. Well yup. And eating food offered to predators and / or Satanic beings might not help much either.  

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Padambhuja Dāsa was Bhakti Abhaya Carana Swami, a former ISKCON initiating guru who is no longer active in ISKCON’s guru system. He appears in lists of fallen or retired post‑1977 ISKCON gurus.

GBC RESOLUTIONS 2000

Sri Padambhuja Das

613 [ACTION ORDER] 1. Sri Padambhuja Das (formerly known as Bhakti Abhay Caran Swami) shall not be privileged to wear saffron cloth and shall be referred to by his initiated name given by Srila Prabhupada. He is indefinitely suspended as a spiritual master, therefore, he cannot initiate nor maintain an absolute siksa position in relation to his disciples and he must follow other aspects of suspension as per ISKCON Law.

2. The GBC Body encourages those who have taken initiation from him to take shelter of Srila Prabhupada and his other followers, as Sri Padambhuja Das is not competent to deliver absolute instruction or receive gifts or veneration at this time. They should refer to the directions in the Guru-asraya paper issued by the GBC Body and stated in ISKCON Law Book at 6.5.1.3-5, which also gives guidance for those who have lost faith in their initiating guru.

3. A program of rectification shall be given by a committee of Jayapataka Swami, Guru Prasad Swami and Virabahu Das.

PAMHO

Open letter to Padambuja das

By looking at your page and reading what you are posting and writing, I sincerely perceive that you are not feeling very well either emotionally, mentally, even physically, as happened to Satsvarupa Maharaj. And I think this might be due, at least in part, to the many offenses you committed in the 1980s by posing yourself as a guru.

You committed many offences by beginning to receive worship you did not deserve, as a supposed representative of Vyāsadeva. You also received money, service and worship from many people without truly being authorized to hold that position. And deep down you yourself know you were never a faithful guru. You know perfectly well that you took on a role that wasn't meant for you.

Therefore, as a friend and as a spiritual brother, I sincerely recommend you to write a letter asking for forgiveness to all those people who accepted you as a Guru and from whom, knowingly or unknowingly, you took advantage of. People who adored you for years, who gave you their trust, their service and their money.
You should do that now that you are still alive, because afterwards there will be no chance to ask for forgiveness. 

And I say it from my heart, because I remember the friendship we had. Follow the footsteps of other ex gurus like Hansadutta das who did apologise to his disciples before becoming the allies of the Ritviks.

There's another issue as well. You still have followers who see you as an exceptional or extraordinary person, and any comment or criticism a spiritual brother makes to you, is immediately considered an offense. And that's not the case.

My words and my counsel I give to you with sincerity and affection, as a spiritual brother. And if they want to participate in this exchange of ideas and words, then they must do it in accordance with the Vaishava etiquette. I must be treated with the respect I deserve by a spiritual brother who has been singing Hare Krishna for over sixty years.

Although I did not formally surrender in 1970, when I met the devotees in Austin, Texas, I was already a Vaishnava from then and was building a home with a person I thought was also a devotee. Later, in 1977, I accepted initiation from one of those false gurus — and you know exactly who I'm talking about — but today I consider that initiation was really Ritvik, because he wasn't authorized to give initiation other than Ritvik.

That is why I consider myself a disciple of Srīla Prabhupāda, and therefore I am also your spiritual brother. So tell your followers to respect me if they want respect from me. Because if they talk to me like karmīs, then I'll treat them like karmī or worse.

That's what I wanted to tell you.

And as Krishna told Arjuna, now do what you want
Hare Kṛṣṇa.

PADA: This happens a lot with these GBC gurus. 

1) They give themselves divine guru status as God's living successors. 

2) Then they have most of us rank and file banned, beaten, sued and maybe killed, and orchestrate a mass child abuse process direct or de facto. All this so they can reign as imperious tyrants without anyone questioning their absolute status. 

3) Then they often fall down into scandals. I think this guy had an affair with a female disciple.

4) Then they just waltz out the door, quit and resign, without ever explaining who gave them the post of absolute guru in the first place. And worse, often not even apologizing. And worse, not explaining that none of them were ever appointed as gurus. And worse, not explaining that Srila Prabhupada is their actual guru.

5) Worse, creating the public impression that Krishna and Srila Prabhupada wanted all these conditioned souls to be taking the post of their guru successors, when Srila Prabhupada and Krishna never said anything like that.  

6) The upshot is, the temples just get more and more and more empty as the disillusioned, cheated, fleeced and exploited leave ISKCON -- and that makes it an empty shell. And these guys are never held accountable by the GBC. Which is why the Isopanisad says these false gurus can escape the laws of the mundane society, but never escape the laws of God. 

But it is not only these leaders who should make a public retraction of all the nonsense they co-created and orchestrated, many of the rank and file who acquiesced and empowered all this should also make a public disassociation from all this, and explain that Srila Prabhupada should be the guru. And yeah, they are all getting older and dying, so they should say something now before it is too late.

Someone else wrote to ask me, how can guys like Giriraj live with himself knowing we all heard from his girlfriend -- he was getting oral sex in the temple room -- and yet he just waltzes around like nothing is wrong? When is he going to apologize or explain any of this? OK their track record is, they mostly never do anything to rectify the situation. And that is very sad because then Yamaraja will double or triple their prison time for their lack of remorse. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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PADA: It looks like the work of some of the Bangalore devotees is drifting around here and there, and people are seeing -- it makes a lot of sense. I think we have to give them a lot of credit for helping explain this stuff to others. 

Rather oddly, the Dayalu Nitai / Prahlad das / Prabhupadanu EU / HKC Jaipur guys chastised PADA repeatedly, demanding to know: "are you working with Bangalore"? Umm, am I working with the people who promote Srila Prabhupada? I dunno. 

Why would I work with you guys and promote Saint Radhanath's molester messiah's project cheer leaders? Same thing, no explanation ever given, because there is none that sounds good. But to answer their question, no I am not in favor of cheer leading the anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's program along with you guys. Neine danke!     

Anyway, good writing here!

ys pd 

BANGALORE's IDEA IS CORRECT

Apurba Indadyumna: 

ISKCON-GBC Gurus Do Not Give Real Initiation by Śrī Suvyakta Narasimha Dāsa.

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Viśva-guru, Śrīla Prabhupāda ki jai. In different parts of the Vedas, it is explained that the varṇāśrama system was born from the different parts of the virāṭa-puruṣa incarnation of Kṛṣṇa. Thus, the varṇāśrama system is divine and hence it is eternal.

However, over time, this divine varṇāśrama system gradually degraded and morphed into its present vitiated form of the by-birth caste system of Hinduism. It is to the credit of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura that he demolished this longstanding belief that varṇāśrama is based on birth. He was the ācārya who vociferously, vigorously, and boldly preached that the caste system by birth is not authorized according to the Vedas.

Because of his breaking the stereotype, many influential castes of the time became inimical to him. Listen to Śrīla Prabhupāda talk about this.

Morning Walk ‒ February 10, 1976, Māyāpur

Prabhupāda: Allen Ginsberg introduced. “Yes. Gāñjā smoking is not taken as bad in India by the sādhus, not ordinary men.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Right. He told me, Mr. Das that it increased his meditation and ecstasy.
Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, gāñjā smoking by the sādhus, sannyāsīs, is not taken very badly. The hippies learned from them.
Yes.
Allen Ginsberg introduced it.
Yes. Yes.
Gāñjā smoking is very good by saintly persons.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think your Guru Mahārāja spoke strongly against such persons.
Oh, yes. And from him we learned that intoxication, any kind of intoxication, is bad.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura also was... He was also not very serious. But Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura was very serious.
And we learned from him.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How is it... Here it is, śāstra. No intoxication. Good.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How is it that Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura was not so strict in that regard, yet his son, who learned from him, became very strict like a rod?
Prabhupāda: Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, so strict [laughs] that because he married twice, he used to say, strī-saṅgī, attached to women, even about his father. He was very strict. Sometimes when he would be angry, he would say, strī-saṅgī. And don’t discuss this thing.
He was very strict. No excuse. No compromise.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That’s where you got all of that from.
Prabhupāda: My imitation, but his was real. All these Navadvīpa people were afraid of him.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Afraid.
Prabhupāda: Strong-hearted. They made a, what is called, conspiracy to kill him.
Hṛdayānanda: Who did this?
Prabhupāda: Oh, the Navadvīpa Gosvāmīs. They raised twenty-five thousand rupees and wanted to bribe this police officer: ‘You take this money, we shall finish him. Don’t take any action.’
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But the policeman said?
Prabhupāda: Refused. ‘Yes, we take bribes, but not in such cases.’
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Why?
Prabhupāda: “He’s a saintly person. We cannot agree to that.” Everyone knows who takes bribes. They admit, ‘Yes, you take bribes, but not in such cases.’ This was told by Guru Mahārāja, Bhaktisi… to me. He was talking many things confidently.”
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So, because Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura established on the basis of śāstra that caste is by qualification and not by birth, the casteists even hatched a conspiracy to assassinate him, but they failed. The casteists were, as it is, unable to counter Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura on the basis of śāstra. Over and above that, Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura also started giving brāhmaṇa-dīkṣā, or initiations, to people who were born in non-brāhmaṇa families, provided, of course, they were following the four regulative principles and chanting sixty-four mālās of Hare Kṛṣṇa daily.

This further challenged the hegemony of the higher caste and dented the false ego of the casteists, and hence their desperation to silence him at all costs. But Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura was undaunted and continued preaching unabated. His disciple Śrīla Prabhupāda too adopted the same intrepid mood, and with the foundation laid by Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, Śrīla Prabhupāda gave brāhmaṇa-dīkṣā even to those born outside Hindu families, smashing all previous stereotypes, superstitions, and customs.

Śrīla Prabhupāda explains the śāstric basis for initiating or giving dīkṣā to people who are not born in brāhmaṇa families in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Ādi-līlā, 

Chapter 7, Verse 47, purport:

“In this Hari-bhakti-vilāsa, Śrī Sanātana Gosvāmī gives definite instructions that by proper initiation by a bona fide spiritual master, one can immediately become a brāhmaṇa. In this connection, he says:

yathā kāñcanatāṁ yāti kāṁsyaṁ rasa-vidhānataḥ tathā dīkṣā-vidhānena dvijatvaṁ jāyate nṛṇām

‘As bell metal is turned to gold when mixed with mercury in an alchemical process, so one who is properly trained and initiated by a bona fide spiritual master immediately becomes a brāhmaṇa.’

Sometimes those born in brāhmaṇa families protest this, but they have no strong arguments against this principle. By the grace of Kṛṣṇa and His devotee, one’s life can change. This is confirmed in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam by the words jahāti-bandham and śuddhyanti.”

So, that revelation of divya-jñāna and vanquishing of sinful reactions is dīkṣā-vidhāna, or the process of initiation. Remember, initiation is a process, not a one-time activity. And in that process, which is a very lengthy one, the one-time activity of the ceremony, which is explained in the July 9th order, is a formality.
But then, the process of dīkṣā involves two things: divya-jñāna and pāpasya saṅkṣaya. When a devotee starts hearing, immediately the revelation of divya-jñāna begins. So, there dīkṣā starts.

What about pāpasya saṅkṣaya (the destruction of sins)? Papa, or sinful reaction, is of two kinds. One is the stored-up or accumulated sinful reactions for which one is bound to suffer. Another is the propensity to perform sinful activities. When we start following Śrīla Prabhupāda’s instructions, we gradually take up the four regulative principles. That means our mind is gradually shifting away from the propensity to act sinfully.

We are no longer inclined to engage in the four sinful activities. That vanquishing of the propensity to act sinfully is one aspect of pāpasya saṅkṣaya. Hence, the moment a person starts reading Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books and starts following his instructions, starts following the four regulative principles, both divya-jñāna and pāpasya saṅkṣaya have commenced.

In other words, dīkṣā-vidhāna has started. The process of initiation has started. Therefore, Śrīla Prabhupāda is saying that the eternal bond between the disciple and spiritual master starts the day one begins hearing, and that when one decides to follow Śrīla Prabhupāda’s instructions seriously, that is real initiation, because dīkṣā-vidhāna has started from that moment.

The ceremony—the fire sacrifice, chanting on the beads, handing them over, and giving a spiritual name—is all simply a formality. In Message of Godhead, Chapter 

One, Śrīla Prabhupāda says:

“The process of initiation begins from the date when we establish our transcendental relationship with the spiritual master.”

That means when we begin hearing from Śrīla Prabhupāda, the transcendental relationship of dīkṣā-guru and disciple is established eternally between Śrīla Prabhupāda and us. And this relationship is forever. This is the beginning of the process of initiation.

Now comes the natural question: What then is the need for formal initiation? One may even ask: Why is the July 9th order needed then? Why is a ṛtvik needed? We might as well take formal or official initiation from any one of the unauthorized dīkṣā-gurus in ISKCON. How does it matter? After all, it is only a formality or official procedure.

This raises the question: Are the devotees of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s ISKCON group overemphasizing the matter of formal initiation by insisting on following Śrīla Prabhupāda’s July 9th order? Because what is the July 9th order? The July 9th order of Śrīla Prabhupāda simply lists the procedure for formal or official initiation. That’s all.

So, if the devotee in his heart accepts following Śrīla Prabhupāda’s instructions, then he is truly initiated by Śrīla Prabhupāda. Officially, or as a formality, he may take initiation from any one of the hundred-plus dīkṣā-gurus in ISKCON, or maybe even from someone outside ISKCON. How does it matter?

To gain clarity on this, let us go through this letter to Satsvarūpa Prabhu dated 14 November 1968, in which Śrīla Prabhupāda throws more light on this:

“Yes, there is definitely a vast difference between initiated and non-initiated. One who is initiated is authorized, and one who is not initiated is not authorized.
Just like, for example, Pradyumna is attending Sanskrit classes in a college. He is given a chance to learn Sanskrit, but he is not equal with the regular students.
One who becomes initiated is channeled to the authorities in the disciplic succession. 

One who is not initiated may chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and should certainly be encouraged to do so and serve in his own way, and gradually by doing so he may want to be initiated. But otherwise, he may fall away from following the rules and regulations.”

If you recall, Śrīla Prabhupāda, in a previous quote we shared, said that formal initiation is like admission to a school: a formality. Extending that same example here, Pradyumna Prabhu did not get formal admission into the Sanskrit college, but he was definitely a Sanskrit scholar. However, Śrīla Prabhupāda says he is not equal with those who underwent formal admission into the Sanskrit college.
That is why Śrīla Prabhupāda said to Suresh Chandra, “If you follow my instructions, then you are as good as my disciple.” Prabhupāda did not say, “Then you are my disciple.” Prabhupāda said, “You are as good as my disciple.” There is a difference between the two.

So, although one may not undergo formal initiation but still follow Śrīla Prabhupāda without fail, there is still some difference between such a devotee and another who has undergone the formal ritual initiation ceremony.
What is the difference? What are the things that make a devotee who has undergone official ritual initiation different from one who has not?

In his letter to Jadurāṇī Mātājī dated 4 September 1972, Śrīla Prabhupāda wrote:
“The spiritual master accepts the sinful activities of his disciples from the first initiation. I may give initiation very easily, but what can I do? I am prepared to go to hell for the service of Lord Caitanya.”

So, this means that when one undergoes formal initiation, Śrīla Prabhupāda takes the accumulated sinful reactions of the disciple at that time. The same thing was conveyed in a letter by Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Gosvāmī to Satsvarūpa Gosvāmī on 7 August 1977:

“Śrīla Prabhupāda explained the difference between first and second initiation as follows:

‘Why do you believe in rumors that first initiation is not so important as second? I have already said that it is equally important, but you say a rumor. Actually, first initiation is more important. We can go without second initiation. If the first initiation is executed very thoroughly, that is sufficient. First initiation stands strong.

The spiritual master accepts the disciple’s sinful reactions upon giving first initiation. The Vedic system was to give the sacred thread at the first initiation. We are following pāñcarātrikī. Vedic initiation was given to a person born to a brāhmaṇa. That is not possible in this age. Therefore, he has to be prepared by harināma initiation and then second initiation. He is given a chance. Therefore others protest that I am giving initiation. “He is not born of a brāhmaṇa. How can he be initiated?”’

At the time of formal initiation, Śrīla Prabhupāda, the dīkṣā-guru, accepts the disciple’s sinful reactions.

For a devotee who is not formally initiated, Śrīla Prabhupāda removes the propensity to perform sinful activities, but the devotee still has to suffer for the accumulated sinful reactions. Those sinful reactions are absorbed or accepted by Śrīla Prabhupāda only at the time of formal initiation. This is one aspect of formal initiation.

Śrīla Prabhupāda explains another aspect of what happens during formal initiation in this letter to Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Gosvāmī dated 19 August 1968:

“The chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa is our main business. That is real initiation. And as you are all following my instruction in the matter, the initiator is already there. Now the next initiation will be performed as a ceremony officially. Of course, that ceremony has value because the holy name will be delivered to the student from the disciplic succession. It has got value. But in spite of that, as you are going on chanting, please continue with this business sincerely, and Kṛṣṇa willing, I may be coming to you very soon.”

So here, the second thing that happens at the time of official or formal initiation is that the holy name is delivered to the disciple through the disciplic succession.
Hence, Śrīla Prabhupāda says in this letter that the official or formal initiation ceremony has value. We cannot neglect it.

In yet another letter to John Darsinos, dated 23 November 1968, Śrīla Prabhupāda says:

“In answer to your question about the importance of initiation, it is to be understood that initiation means that power is coming from the Supreme by the bona fide disciplic succession. This is required. Of course, for anyone to hear the message of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam will produce a favorable result. But formally, one should receive this knowledge from the disciplic succession.

For example, Arjuna and Kṛṣṇa were friends, but still Arjuna submitted himself formally as Kṛṣṇa’s disciple. This is essential. We should take example from these great personalities. Arjuna was hearing Bhagavad-gītā from Kṛṣṇa, but still he submitted: ‘Now I am Your disciple. Please instruct me.’ So this is the process. I hope this will clear up your question sufficiently.”

So here, Śrīla Prabhupāda stresses that formal initiation is essential. Śrīla Prabhupāda gives the example of Arjuna, that he was hearing from Kṛṣṇa, but still he formally submitted himself as Kṛṣṇa’s disciple. So this formality is also essential in the entire process of initiation.

At the time of formal initiation, those two things—that of accepting the accumulated sinful reactions of the disciple and delivering the holy name from the disciplic succession to the disciple—are performed by the dīkṣā-guru.
Pāpasya saṅkṣayam actually has three aspects. One of them, as we have discussed, is the removal of the propensity to act sinfully, which is done before formal initiation. The second aspect of pāpasya saṅkṣayam is the acceptance of the accumulated sinful reactions of the disciple by the dīkṣā-guru, which is done at the time of formal initiation.

The third aspect of pāpasya saṅkṣayam is explained by Śrīla Prabhupāda in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 5.1.35, purport:

“When a person, even though a caṇḍāla, is initiated by a pure devotee into chanting the holy name of the Lord, his body changes as he follows the instructions of the spiritual master. Although one cannot see how his body has changed, we must accept on the grounds of the authoritative statements of the śāstra that he changes his body. This is to be understood without argument.
This verse clearly says sa jahāti bandham—he gives up his material bondage. 

The body is a symbolic representation of material bondage according to one’s karma. Although sometimes we cannot see the gross body changing, chanting the holy name of the Supreme Lord immediately changes the subtle body, and because the subtle body changes, the living entity is immediately freed from material bondage.

After all, changes of the gross body are conducted by the subtle body. After the destruction of the gross body, the subtle body takes the living entity from his present gross body to another. In the subtle body, the mind is predominant, and therefore if one’s mind is always absorbed in remembering the activities or the lotus feet of the Lord, he is to be understood to have already changed his present body and become purified.

Therefore, it is irrefutable that a caṇḍāla, or any fallen or low-born person, can become a brāhmaṇa simply by the method of bona fide initiation.”

So, the third aspect of pāpasya saṅkṣaya is that the dīkṣā-guru changes the subtle body of the disciple and grants him a brāhmaṇa body.

One receives one’s gross and subtle body due to previous karma. The dīkṣā-guru destroys one’s karmic subtle body and grants one a new brāhmaṇical sāttvika subtle body, which one could not have attained otherwise through one’s karma.
That is how, although a person is not born in a brāhmaṇa family—he may not even be born in a Hindu family—if he takes pāñcarātrika-dīkṣā from a bona fide spiritual master, from a pure devotee, as we saw in the first quote from Śrīla Prabhupāda, then he can chant the Gāyatrī mantra and worship the Deity of Viṣṇu, which is allowed only for brāhmaṇas.

So the question comes: What kind of spiritual master can do this? This requires extraordinary power—the power to absorb previous karma and grant a fresh new subtle body of a brāhmaṇa. This cannot be done by some “no-objection” dīkṣā-guru.

Only a dīkṣā-guru who is a pure devotee, as we saw in the first quote—only a dīkṣā-guru who has been specifically empowered by the authorization of his predecessor dīkṣā-guru to become a dīkṣā-guru himself—only such a dīkṣā-guru has the power received from Kṛṣṇa and his predecessor dīkṣā-guru to absorb accumulated pāpa-karma and to replace one’s subtle body with a brāhmaṇical sāttvika subtle body.

That is why Śrīla Prabhupāda says in several places that unless one is a pure devotee, one must not even attempt to become a dīkṣā-guru.
The GBC, however, in its Resolution No. 409 of 2004, has categorically denied any such power in their “no-objection” dīkṣā-gurus. Then what is the value of the dīkṣā that they are giving?

The unauthorized dīkṣā-gurus in ISKCON are not replacing the subtle body of their disciples, nor are they revealing divya-jñāna in the hearts of their disciples, nor are they removing the sinful propensities of their disciples, nor are they absorbing the accumulated sinful reactions of their disciples. They are not doing any of these things.

The only thing they are doing is giving formal or official initiation—not real initiation—to their disciples. What is the value of such initiation or dīkṣā? We urge you to please consider this very seriously.

Now, from the side of the disciple, due to formal initiation there is another thing that happens. Śrīla Prabhupāda describes it in his letter to Dayānanda Prabhu dated 24 March 1974:

“All initiated devotees must chant at least sixteen rounds daily without fail. Now that they are initiated, there is no question of not doing their rounds. You may hold a fire yajña, and Jagadīśa Prabhu may chant on their beads.

In court, when a person swears to tell the truth, he can be punished for perjury if he does not take it seriously and tells a lie. So those who promise before the Deity to follow the rules and regulations of initiated disciples will be punished if they fail to do so.”

So this means that if after formal initiation a disciple fails to follow the instructions of the dīkṣā-guru, he will be punished for it. That may not be the case with a person who has not undergone formal initiation.

Such a devotee who has not taken formal initiation may not be punished if he transgresses any of the regulative principles. But if a formally initiated disciple does that, he will be punished for it. Hence, formal initiation is also a serious matter.

Although it is only one step, a one-time activity in the whole process of initiation or dīkṣā-vidhāna, still it is a serious matter.

Therefore, although the ṛtvik initiation ceremony outlined in the July 9th order is only formal initiation—the formality part of the entire initiation process—still it is essential and has great value.

It follows, therefore, that we cannot say: “I will accept Śrīla Prabhupāda as my guru in my heart, but officially, as a formality, I will get initiated by any one of the unauthorized dīkṣā-gurus in ISKCON.”

You see, everyone in ISKCON gets divya-jñāna by reading Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books. Everyone gives up sinful propensities by following the four regulative principles, and who has given these four regulative principles? It is Śrīla Prabhupāda who has given them. None of these unauthorized dīkṣā-gurus are giving the regulative principles.

So every devotee in ISKCON, without exception, has established an eternal bond with Śrīla Prabhupāda as his disciple from the day he begins to hear from Śrīla Prabhupāda, from the day he begins to read Prabhupāda’s books. Śrīla Prabhupāda starts the process of initiation, or dīkṣā-vidhāna, in every devotee’s life in ISKCON.

Now, when the time for formal initiation comes, if the devotee is told that formally he should accept someone else as his dīkṣā-guru—one of the unauthorized dīkṣā-gurus in ISKCON—is that not an insult to Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Śrīla Prabhupāda did all the hard work, revealed transcendental knowledge in the heart of the devotee, removed his propensity to act sinfully, and then what happens? An unauthorized dīkṣā-guru in ISKCON, who neither gave divya-jñāna nor performed pāpasya saṅkṣaya, claims that the devotee is his disciple.
Is this not a direct insult and offense at the lotus feet of Śrīla Prabhupāda?

By banning the ṛtvik system of initiations, is not the GBC of ISKCON declaring that Śrīla Prabhupāda must give divya-jñāna and remove the sinful propensities of the devotees in ISKCON, but must do so only to hand over the disciple to them? Is that fair?

If the unauthorized dīkṣā-gurus in ISKCON were revealing transcendental knowledge, divya-jñāna, in the hearts of their disciples from day one, and if those disciples never heard from Śrīla Prabhupāda, and if the unauthorized dīkṣā-guru removed all their sinful propensities by his powerful preaching, then the matter would be different. But that is not what is happening in ISKCON.

Śrīla Prabhupāda does all the hard work, and someone else enjoys the fruit of the disciple. Can you imagine that?

Have the GBC not made Śrīla Prabhupāda a servant of their ambition to become dīkṣā-gurus by relegating him to the position of some “preeminent śikṣā-guru,” when it is Prabhupāda who is doing all the hard work of real initiation—dīkṣā?
If some devotee was kept in the dark by the GBC and he took formal initiation from some unauthorized dīkṣā-guru sincerely believing that this was the system Śrīla Prabhupāda established, but later he comes to know about the July 9th order and accepts that Śrīla Prabhupāda alone is his dīkṣā-guru, and that the person whom he considered his dīkṣā-guru till then acted only in the capacity of a ṛtvik to oversee the formal initiation ceremony, then that devotee will be absolved of any offense at the lotus feet of Śrīla Prabhupāda because he was misled. It is not that he deliberately disobeyed Prabhupāda.

But if someone, after knowing about the July 9th order and knowing that the ṛtvik system of dīkṣā is available to him in Śrīla Prabhupāda’s ISKCON group, still goes ahead and takes formal dīkṣā from any of the unauthorized dīkṣā-gurus in ISKCON, is he not directly insulting Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Please deeply ponder over these questions, and if you truly want to be saved from any offense to the lotus feet of Śrīla Prabhupāda, it is better to take formal initiation through the ṛtvik system of initiations.

The dīkṣā-vidhāna, or process of initiation in your life, was started by Śrīla Prabhupāda, and he alone is revealing divya-jñāna in your heart and removing all sinful propensities in your life. Hence, he is eternally your dīkṣā-guru.
The earlier you recognize this and surrender your allegiance as a disciple to Śrīla Prabhupāda instead of one of the unauthorized dīkṣā-gurus, the faster you will be relieved from the offense of insulting Śrīla Prabhupāda, which the GBC of the ISKCON Mumbai group is indulging in.

We trust that we have been able to convey the importance of the July 9th order. Although that order details the formal initiation ceremony and is not the entire initiation process itself, still it is very crucial.

We hope you understand why we are so vocal about supporting and propagating the July 9th order and the ṛtvik system of initiations. That is why it is important to follow the July 9th order of Śrīla Prabhupāda and implement the ṛtvik system of initiations in ISKCON.

Hare Kṛṣṇa. Viśva-guru Śrīla Prabhupāda ki jaya.

Is ISKCON Bombay Authorizing Illegal Actions? 05 24 26

 

The gopis are very expert in: playing many types of musical instruments; composing songs and singing; composing poetry; dancing in various styles; cooking for the master; making nice dresses, jewelry and ornaments; making flower garlands; predicting events from astrology; making music on water pots filled with different degrees of water; gardening; protecting the innocent animals; drawing designs on the cows; talking to the birds and making cuckoo bird sounds; sending messages using parrots ... and many other arts. They sing to describe Krishna’s pastimes in Vrindavan. Of all the gopis, Srimate Radharani is the leader and she is most expert in all the in all these arts. 

PADA: OK it looks like ISKCON Bombay has authorized their people to continue to take -- tax exempt -- donations without notification to the donors that the ISKCON tax status has changed / been revoked. And that means the people taking the donations are acting illegally, but evidently under orders from the ISKCON leaders like Basu Ghosh. That means the people taking the donations could be in legal trouble, along with their temples, along with ISKCON itself.

OK the guys in this video seem to say that the persons taking legal liable responsibility for these illegal acts are the little peons who are doing the collecting, while the leaders will simply take the money and walk out and leave, which has happened already a number of times with ISKCON. 

What these guys are complaining is -- that Basu Ghosh's "taking donations in the normal course" is acting like ISKCON still has their valid tax exempt status. They do not. In the comments someone says that ISKCON Bangalore (Madhu Pandit) has not been notified of these changes yet, because they are still giving tax credits, but that means some people are confusing Madhu Pandit's ISKCON and Bombay ISKCON. That shows what a mess these Bombay people are making for everyone else.

In any case, this raises important issues. If the rank and file people are being told by the leaders to continue collecting donations for a charity that has lost its charity status, then that is illegal. And the rumor is that Basu Ghosh's letter was supposed to be an internal secretive document and not public. That would mean: they are secretly ordering their people to do illegal acts. At least that is what is sounds like. 

So lets ask Bombay ISKCON what they are actually advising their members to do at this stage. And if they are advising illegal acts, the LEADERS should be reported to the tax board for making the followers conduct illegal collecting. The followers should be shielded and protected from legal action, since they are following orders from the leaders. And if the leaders are ordering illegal actions, they should be reported to the police and etc. But something is messed up here, and we hope someone can give us a broader perspective on all this with more details.

As usual, people are sending these things to PADA, having given up the ghost of trying to get any sensible response from GBC leaders. This is a mess, that is what we do know for sure. But yeah, a number of other people have told us the same thing -- the Basu Ghosh letter does not make a clear cut order what to do here, and it looks like he is advising cheating the tax board. 

That is what the letter appears to suggest. This needs to be fixed for the sake of the people collecting funds, and to save ISKCON from another big scandal of illegally cheating on taxes. Not what we need right now. 

ys pd angel108B@yahoo.com   

Navayogendra's Sahajiya-ness / Texans Against Hindus 05 24 26

 

PADA: Thanks prabhu for informing me that now Navayogendra swami is putting on a crying act during his lectures -- telling people how fortunate it is to have association with a person in bhava -- the idea is -- he is that bhava person. Well yeah, it is fortunate to be in the association of a person in Krishna bhava. 

Yet how could a person like him -- have become that bhava-ized person? OK he is 2/3 show of hands voted into his illicit sex with men, women and children guru system, and how is any of that connected to bhava bhakti? It isn't. 

There is a lot of crying going on all around his guru parampara, that is true. 

Devotees are being banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed, and that is producing an ocean of crying. OK but that is not bhava bhakti, nor are the people making and operating that odious oppression of devotees process themselves in bhava. This is just cheating on steroids.  

Right, is he crying for the plight of the victims of his process? Nope, he is trying to confuse people that his process, famously known for cruelty to Vaishnavas and Aucshwitz for kids etc., and making some victims take their own lives in despair, and making once thriving temples into empty ghost towns, is -- bhava bhakti. Nope, his process is destroying bhakti for thousands of people, including evidently thousands of children who were abused in his guru system -- and who now reject the religion.  

And what is Navayogendra making as his offering to Krishna? His homosexuals, pedophiles and predators as ISKCON's acharyas process is his offering to God. And that is why we had to sue his program for mass child mistreatment, twice, for $3M and $400M, and his program pleaded no contest in court, we won. Did I forget to mention his program sent enforcers here to have me taken out of my body, and I was saved by the FEDS? What kind of program offers predators as its acharyas, and kills dissenters?

Srila Prabhupada was against this whole crying thing, saying it is sahajiya. And he said when people exhibit so-called ecstatic symptoms, we should kick them in the head. He was not in favor of public displays of these things, even if a person is in bhava, he should not reveal that. At the same time, Navayogendra's program is helping bury homosexuals and pedophiles in samadhis, trying to create the impression that homosexual and pedophile consciousness is -- bhava bhakti. 

So his program is misrepresenting bhava bhakti in the worse way possible. How does that make him a bhava bhakta? Sorry, he is getting worse and not better, drifting into sahajiya-ness. But this is all part of the overall meltdown of the GBC authority. After all their banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing -- they are trying to re-package themselves as the bhava bhaktas. That is simply cheating on top of cheating and is not going to work.

ys pd

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TEXAS HINDU-PHOBIA

https://nripulse.com/temple-and-mosque-projects-reveal-frisco-culture-clash-as-council-takes-no-action/?

PADA: Oh oh pilgrims, some Texans are "finally standing up for Jesus" and demanding that Hindu temples and Muslim Mosques not be allowed! This is removing our Christian identity. Forsooth!

OK but don't you guys know by now, the USA Christians are basically being cursed by much of the entire world population -- who blames USA for closing the straits of Hormuz -- causing them all sorts of troubles. Your brand is not popular in many places around the world right now, and that is an understatement. In fact, a lot of people in the USA are cursing your brand for making gas $7.00 around here. 

The Texans largely voted for MAGA to remove all the "nasty illegals" -- (Texas farm workers, maids, construction workers etc.) then pleaded not to have them deported and removed from Texas -- because we need them for running our farms and for our construction jobs. Some farms had zero workers and some construction sites had zero workers. Then the same people were crying that the workers are missing. 

So yeah, you want to get rid of the people who are running your farms, but that is causing you more problems. Sorry, the Caucasian race has created the mess we now have -- for the USA. You broke it, you own it. Blaming other races for the problems you guys created is not going to fix the problems. In any case, if you were really standing up for Jesus, you would be welcoming strangers, because all living entities are part of God. But yeah, this could get ugly if some of these fanatics start to target the Hindus. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

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Russia is finally taking this war very serious!

They are making bullet proof vests and helmets 

for their attack donkeys! 

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Yeah, China is the winner of this war.

Rupanuga / Tulsi / Jadurani 05 23 26

 

Yep Krishna, when You decide to fool us

with your divine Maya potency,

we are pretty much stuck, unless you unstuck us.

Lord have mercy on us stuck souls!

PADA: Good job Rupanuga. Some of these "senior devotees" are envious of Srila Prabhupada -- which means they are envious of Krishna, never mind they are envious of us critics. And they will have us banned, beaten, sued and killed. And create no small amount of child abuse. 

Question: why did you and your other GBC folks promote these self-evidently envious people, if not illicit sex with men, women and children pedophiles and perverts, as "Krishna's guru successors"? Didn't you guys have the slightest clue who is Krishna, and who are His successors? 

You guys never explain why you promoted these envious deviants and perverts as Krishna's successors FROM SQUARE ONE, or why you personally were working against me and Sulochana when we tried to curb your "sex with boys in the motorhome" "Krishna successor" Kirtanananda. 

And you guys had us excommunicated, which placed a bull's eye on our backs for assassination. And we were assassinated -- and I would have been too -- without help from the FEDS. You guys made a rule, we have to join with your program in promoting your homosexual and pedophile pals as messiahs, or get killed. And we were killed. And your reformer pal Satsvarupa said we are opposing "Jesus, Haridas Thakur and Prahlad" (Kirtanananda) no less, didn't you know that would get us killed? 

You supported the wrong party, and you still say us Prabhupada worshipers are "the bogus ritviks" ummm, because we did not support your homosexual and pedophile's guru process? And that is why you "reformers" helped have us excommunicated? And why does Krishna's successor need to be reformed from being a pedophile or de fact pedophile, from square one?

And many times people ask me, didn't people like Hansadutta, Bhagavan, Ramesvara, Rupanuga and others know that Kirtanananda was a Mott Street boy homosexual from square one? How did they not know?

And we never get any reply from any of you guys? Satsvarupa says you guys "goofed," nope! We were systematically banned, beaten, sued and killed, this was highly orchestrated and arranged, not just some small time goofing around. And you were one of the orchestrators. Now people want to know, why did you guys do this? 

Isn't your party's collective actions the worst betrayal of Srila Prabhupada, his devotees, and Krishna, ever recorded in history: i.e. making homosexuals and pedophiles into God's successors? And then having Krishna's devotees banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed. When is any of this going to be explained, and "we goofed" is not the explanation either. We cannot just go to Yamaraja and say "hey -- we goofed, and thus God's devotees were banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed," that is not going to cut it, sorry!

The good news is, at least some Hare Krishnas -- like me and Sulochana -- believed that we had a duty to dismantle your guys homosexual and pedophile "Jesus, Haridas Thakur and Prahlad" program, to save the movement and to save children, thousands of whom were being victimized by your process. 

And the bad news is, some of ISKCON devotees -- actually most -- believed it was a good plan to acquiesce if not support and defend your guys homosexual and pedophile messiah's club and make "a reform" where one of the worst case examples of the GBC's homosexual pedophile messiahs was "reinstated" as "Vishnupada" -- by your reformers program! 

And to excommunicate us to make us targets for extermination. And now we will all have to face our karma of actions and results in the higher court. It is sad that some of you guys think you are going to argue "we goofed" and get away with conducting this monstrosity of misrepresentation of Krishna and His acharyas. 

Yamaraja will probably tell me, "hey Mr. PADA, you are a giant pile of bad karma, you have twenty three thousand and one strikes against you, but at least you did not help a violent pedophile worship cult of deviants as God's successors, we have to give you some percent credit here." Hee hee! 

But yeah, you admit, they are envious of Srila Prabhupada and Krishna and your program empowered the envious as acharyas. And that conspired to create a violent and murderous homosexual and pedophile guru cult, and all of its subsequent evil by-products. And that is why Sulochana said, he would not trade a billion years of his past bad karma with 30 seconds of the future karma of the people who made this process. True dat!  

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

 

PADA: My Hawaii friend Markendeya Rsi assured me -- over and over -- that Tulsi would steer the USA away from any more wars. "No more wars," guaranteed by her! She will NEVER ALLOW that to happen! I told him that she could not steer these guys, and she would be steered by them. 

And he got very upset with me and blocked me, convinced she was going to fix things. Well it did not take long and her "no more wars" slogan ran out of steam. 

Markendeya also told me a lot of the youth over there (Narayan Maharaja folks) smoke pot at the temple functions. And one of them recently said "I got plastered and fell down (from drinking?)." It sounds like Tulsi does not have a very solid community of sincere devotees to back her up over there?  

At the same time, she started to say things like -- Ukraine has lots of bio labs, so evidently it is a good idea for Russia to start blowing those things up. It is a good idea to blow up dangerous and hazardous bio labs, and spread dangerous and toxic bio materials all over the universe? That is the plan?

Nope, she was just trying to hand Putin an excuse to -- blow everything up over there. She should have said, hey!, they are blowing up dangerous toxic materials and this must be stopped forthwith! OK maybe she did not believe there were any bio dangers that had to be blown up there. She just said what the good ole boys told her to. 

Oddly Trump said Ukraine does not hold any cards. Well why are 30,000 Russian men getting sent to the grave yard every month? Or their dead bodies are getting eaten by stray dogs way before that? And when it comes to world economies, sorry -- China is holding more of the cards. But Tulsi never mentions any of this stuff? 

 

Meanwhile Russia has planted mines all over the Donbas region making the mine field the size of Connecticut, the largest minefield ever made in history. So a lot of people, children, cats, dogs, cows etc. are now getting blown up there, and are going to get blown up in future over there for a decade or more. It will take years to clean this up. If ever. Some experts said people will still be getting blown up 30 years from now, because it will be impossible to find all of these mines. There is your real bio hazard right there! Why is none of this ever mentioned?

The only good news is -- some Ukraine guys are dis-arming some of these mines, and re-arming them to be placed onto their drones, and then they make good -- ready made -- drone sized weapons to drop down and take out the invaders. And they are getting taken out.  

I think she has the idea that this stuff is helping the planet somehow or other, and Ukraine deserves all this. So I think she was forced to tow the party line. She certainly looked very nervous, stressed, un-natural and stiff at the hearings, because I believe she was saying what they told her to say and not what she really thinks. So in that sense, it is better she is out of there. 

She should not be supporting all these political shennanigans. I think she is relieved to be outta there. Anyway her spouse has bone cancer, which sounds very bad. And I wish her and her spouse well. I think she is basically a good person, but she entered the political arena and she was clearly not cut out for it. It is contaminating to be in that sabha. 

Someone said to PADA, she has aged 15 years in the past 2 years, she is growing old too fast from being too stressed out. Did I forget to mention that cancer seems to be taking out the devotee community folks left and right? Anyway, I like her personally, and hope for the best on her path to Krishna. But she has to find better association, that is my advice. 

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JADURANI IS NOW VYASA's SUCCESSOR

PADA: Hee hee, yeah prabhu, these people who are born in meat eating families are now God's successors -- who can absorb sins like Jesus. One devotee told me his guru's cigarettte smoking and meat eating mom would come to the farm, and the devotees would fall down and offer her prostrated obeisance as "the divine mother." 

This is the insane result of Jadurani and Narayan Maharaja making these hamburger heads into acharyas. And now, after making other hamburger birth people into messiahs, she is one herself. Told ya! 

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