Mother Yasoda / Reactions to Kathmandu Report / Pandavas Suffering 06 16 26

*** Mother Yashoda is the foster mother of Lord Krishna. She is considered the highest embodiment of motherly love and affection, both here and in the spiritual kingdom where she resides as an eternal loving mother to Lord Krishna. The village of Vrindavan on Earth is a replica of Krishna's Vrndavana village in the spiritual sky on the Goloka planet.

Mother Yashoda is known for her motherly interactions with Lord Krishna. She is often portrayed as engaged in playful and tender exchanges with Krishna, such as bathing, clothing and feeding Him. And she even chastises Krishna for his mischievous childhood acts. But in all cases she is showering Him with unconditional love and care. Her relationship with Lord Krishna exemplifies the deep bond between a mother and child, reflecting the divine love that exists between Lord Krishna and His devotees.

Lord Krishna’s playful interactions with Mother Yashoda serve as a reminder of the joy and love that can be experienced in a relationship with the Supreme Being. Yashoda would often have to chase Krishna as He tried to wander off to play with His friends. She would playfully scold Krishna for his mischievous acts, such as stealing butter or breaking pots. Despite His all powerful divine nature, Krishna would humbly submit to his mother’s authority and display his submissive innocence, allowing her to care for Him and even discipline Him.

Krishna, in turn, reciprocates Yashoda’s love with great affection. He willingly engages in their playful exchanges and cherishes her as His beloved mother. At times Mother Yasoda would be bewildered -- how her child could act so wonderfully in chastising various demons who would attack Krishna. But Krishna would then draw the curtain of Maha-maya over her, so she would see Him as her helpless and innocent little child. These are the pastimes of Krishna with His devotees, and we should study them to understand Krishna's real nature and activities.

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PADA: Russian bloggers are posting that some kind of black magic evil curse is causing all the troubles in Russia. Well yeah, but you are the people who wanted this war, and that war makes you lose 1,000 + men per day and spend a few trillion dollars on your endless war. You made this happen to -- yourself. If there are some dark forces at work, maybe you should look at -- you? Just saying!

Some GBC gurus do this too, well we are failing because some people are cursing us -- or willing us to fail. No you are causing your own failures. ys pd angel108b!yahoo.com

I told this guy in 1979, we cannot take karma. He laughed at me. That means he laughed at karma, but karma has the last say, every time! ys pd

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BRUTAL REACTIONS TO ISKCON's KATHMANDU PROBLEM

krishna1008: ISKCON Kathmandu Child Abuse Arrest / JPS ex-Servant / Decoding karma 06 15 26

KD: So sad. There was good preaching going on in Nepal all together, but Iskcon authorities didn't have the courage to tackle the issue transparently.

TD: Same thing again and again. Who still can trust those who run the show? What are their priorities -- is clear from their (in)actions. Let's not get sucked under their spell of sweet nectarian transcendental and philosophical talk which is like milk touched by snake. Looks like milk but it's deadly instead of nourishing.

CC: CLOSE DONE ALL THESE ISKCON GURUKULS, ALSO THE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL, MAYAPUR GURUKIL. HOW DO WE KNOW ITS SAFE? HOW DO SE KNOW RATCITAMBARA IS DOING WELL, SHES 70 YEARS PLUS. HER OWN DAUGHTER WAS A CHILD BRIDE, HER GRANDSON OVER DOSED. 

3 RED FLAGS, MSYBE SHE SHOULDNT BE RUNNING THE GURUKULA AND SCKOOL. COME ON ITS STUPID TO HAVE HER RUNNING THE SCKOOL. SHE SHOULD RETIRE. AFTER YOUR STARTED TO RUN THE SCHOOL -- THERE WAS ISSUES WITH UNDERAGED SEX, TRUANCY WITH STUDENTS. 

THE GIRL WHO SLEPT WITH A STUDENT AND REPORTED WAS UNFAIRLY TREATED. THOSE KIDS ARE EXPOSED TO SO MUCH MORE DUE TO PHONES, BUT THEY DONT GIVE EDUCATION ON THE EFFECTS OF UNDERAGED SEX, NO EDUCATION ON DRUGS, THESE KIDS THERE NEED MORE SUPORT. 

HOW MANY ABORTIONS WILL WE HAVE IN MAYAPUR? HOW MANY BOYS WILL LEAVE GURUKUL AND GET GIRLS PREGNANT? HOW MANY BOYS AND GIRLS REALLY UNDERSTAND SEXUAL CONSENT? BECAUSE THERE ARE CASES OF GURUKUL BOYS NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING CONSENT. AND THEY ARE EXPLOITING THE GIRLS. 

C2: Sad news, I hope the children that's have been hurt can't get the support needed to get through this. Maybe too young to go through therapy, but I hope the family and children are safe. This is very sad to hear, we still haven't been able to learn, iskcon can not runs schools. 

V Das: Bhagavat parampara. 

TK Dasi: Krishna! Please intervene in this cesspool of rakshasas! Close all ashrams for children. They are comfortable places for rakshashas to live in the wide open while secretly raping and killing the children! This news makes me need to vomit. 

ZR: VICTIM VIDEO TESTIMONY:  

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15uZhmDg54Q/ 

PD: Mahavishnu swami is the sannyasa disciple of Jayapataka, and there was already a rumor MVS was trafficking boys to Mayapur where they were mistreated. ys pd 

PS Dasi: DEAR GOD MAY THERE BE HEALING FOR THESE KIDS AND FOR THESE DEMONS PEDOFILES TO BURN IN HELL FOREVER. 'Hare Krishna' The charming brows of the Supreme Personality of Godhead protects the sages and devotees from being charmed by material lust and sex attraction. Srila Prabhupada SB 3.28.32 Purport

Please remove me from any future correspondence on this [Kathmandu] topic, 

Thank you.
In service,
Bhakti devi dasi

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PADA: Someone asked PADA, why wouldn't a certified Co-parenting facilitator take interest in a child abuse problem, and instead ask to be taken off the list where this issue is being discussed? Why wouldn't they want to contribute to the discussion, and help? I dunno. No problem, just take it to the police, courts and media, and make expose videos. This will have to be fixed in other ways. ys pd

On May 15, 2026, at 8:43 AM, HEMRAJ GAIRAY wrote:

In the attached files, ex-RNS disciple Bhatta Raghunath Das admits that Kanai Sundar is in touch with him, was there with him on April 22 and that he has left ISKCON (he calls it step down) via. his official statement (These screenshots can be seen in their official facebook page named Pandav Sena). It's obvious that Kanai Sundar Das didn't just pop up just that day with him.

Everyone is aware of Bhatta Raghunath Das organization Gaudiya Vaishnava Association (GVA) and his activities therein. Now he's trying to look like a good guy and justify his reinitiation claiming that because of management issues he took reinitiation. 

Is it even reasonable? HH Radhanath Swami, his diksha guru was never part of local management. If he was frustrated with local management then why did he leave HH Radhanath Swami? And why is Kanai Sundar Das teaming up with the same person who left his own diksha guru? It just requires common sense to see the whole picture. And on top of all this, CPO empowering such highly questionable person, Kanai Sundar Das, makes it even more suspicious.

HEMRAJ GAIRAY wrote:

Dear Pancharatna Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I recently received your reply regarding my alleged failure to fully reveal my identity. I would like to respectfully clarify that all relevant identity details were already provided within the attached audio submission. It appears that the audio may not have been heard in full before arriving at this conclusion.

Regarding the inquiry itself, while there were initially some questions related to children, once I clearly stated that I had no knowledge of such matters, the questioning continued extensively on management-related issues. This raises a serious concern, as it does not fall within the defined mandate of the CPO to investigate or scrutinize institutional management affairs. Such a line of questioning appears inappropriate and outside jurisdiction.

More importantly, I wish to express my deep disturbance regarding what increasingly appears to be a politically motivated agenda unfolding behind these developments.

There is credible and observable alignment between Kanai Sundar Das and Bhatta Raghunath Das (now known as Bugarbha Goswami Das), who has formally left ISKCON after previously being a disciple of HH Radhanath Swami and has taken re-initiation in Gaudiya Math. He has since established his own independent organization, the Gaudiya Vaishnava Association (GVA), registered in Bhairahawa with a branch in Bhaktapur — notably in the very same premises where ISKCON Bhaktapur previously operated.

It is a matter of record that GVA has taken adversarial legal action against ISKCON concerning protection of ISKCON-related intellectual properties. Furthermore, Kanai Sundar Das has maintained a close association with Bhatta Raghunath Das for over 15 years and is currently residing with him, engaging in regular meetings in Bhata Raghunath Das’s house in Bhaktapur. Bhatta Raghunath Das is now openly promoting his organization as a “safer alternative” to ISKCON and actively positioning himself in opposition. Many devotees from Bhaktapur have confirmed this fact as a daily ongoing reality.

On April 22, during the CPO meeting with parents, Bhatta Raghunath Das was physically present at the location together with Kanai Sundar Das and was seen leaving together with Kanai Sundar Das in the same vehicle, driven by Laxminath Murari Das (father of complainant child). This is not incidental—it reflects coordination. (Attached with this email is the video of this incident.)

There are also emerging reports suggesting that Kanai Sundar Das himself may have undergone re-initiation in Gaudiya Math, which, although yet to be formally confirmed, becomes increasingly plausible given his proximity and conduct.

In this context, I am compelled to raise a critical and pressing question:

Why has a known associate of a guru-tyagi, and an individual aligned with an external institution that is legally and ideologically opposing ISKCON, been empowered or identified as an “aide” of CPOC?

A recent communication from CPO Bharat explicitly referred to Kanai Sundar Das in such a capacity. (attached is the email of cpo bharat) This is deeply alarming. What is the rationale behind extending such credibility or authority to an individual whose affiliations and actions strongly indicate a conflict of interest?

From an objective standpoint, his activities do not reflect a neutral pursuit of justice, but rather suggest a pattern aligned with destabilizing ISKCON internally. The perception created is that of an external influence attempting to fragment the institution under the guise of procedural oversight.

This raises serious questions about due diligence, internal safeguards, and the integrity of the investigative process. Kindly treat this matter with urgency and seriousness, as it directly impacts the trust and unity within the devotee community.

Your servant,
Hemanga Vishwambhar Das

Note: I am ISKCON Rupandehi District President and reside in Butwal (where ISKCON was previously run by ex-Bhatta Raghunath Das, now Bhugarbha Goswami Das before he left ISKCON). Butwal is over an hour's drive from Palpa and Bhairahawa. Palpa is the place where Kanai Sundar Das resides currently. Previously he was together with Bhatta Raghunath Das. The reason I’m telling my address details is because I’ve personally noticed the relationship between Kanai Sundar Das and Bhatta Raghunath Das. Any devotee from Butwal or Palpa can verify this close association.

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DESPITE NO LACK OF SPIRITUAL OR MATERIAL ASSETS, THE PANDAVAS STILL ENDURED HARDSHIP AS ORDAINED BY GOD:

(Srimad Bhagavatam 1.9.15)

yatra dharma-suto rājā
gadā-pāṇir vṛkodaraḥ
kṛṣṇo 'strī gāṇḍivaṁ cāpaṁ
suhṛt kṛṣṇas tato vipat

TRANSLATION:

O how wonderful is the influence of inevitable time. It is irreversible - otherwise, how can there be reverses in the presence of King Yudhiṣṭhira, the son of the demigod controlling religion; Bhīma, the great fighter with a club; the great bowman Arjuna with his mighty weapon Gāṇḍīva; and above all, the Lord, the direct well-wisher of the Pāṇḍavas?

PURPORT:

As far as the material or spiritual resources were required, there was no scarcity in the case of the Pāṇḍavas. Materially they were well equipped because two great warriors, namely Bhīma and Arjuna, were there. Spiritually the King himself was the symbol of religion, and above all of them the Personality of Godhead, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, was personally concerned with their affairs as the well-wisher. 

And yet there were so many reverses on the side of the Pāṇḍavas. Despite the power of pious acts, the power of personalities, the power of expert management and the power of weapons under the direct supervision of Lord Kṛṣṇa, the Pāṇḍavas suffered so many practical reverses, which can only be explained as due to the influence of kāla, inevitable time. Kāla is identical with the Lord Himself, and therefore the influence of kāla indicates the inexplicable wish of the Lord Himself. There is nothing to be lamented when a matter is beyond the control of any human being.

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ISKCON Kathmandu Child Abuse Arrest / JPS ex-Servant / Decoding karma 06 15 26

Mahavishnu swami

Sannyasa disciple of Jayapataka swami.

Founder father of Mayapur's Auschwitz for kids project.

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ISKCON-Budhanilkantha operator in custody - The Himalayan Times - Nepal's No.1 English Daily Newspaper | Nepal News, Latest Politics, Business, World, Sports, Entertainment, Travel, Life Style News

HIMALAYAN TIMES NEWS 

KATHMANDU, JUNE 14

The Nepal Police have arrested an operator of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) in Budhanilkantha Municipality-5 for a case related to a child sexual abuse incident.

ISKCON member Suraj Krishna Shrestha is in police custody for investigation into child-related offences, said SP Pawan Kumar Bhattarai, spokesperson for the District Police Range Kathmandu, told The Himalayan Times.

He confirmed that Suraj Krishna Shrestha is in custody for an offence under the Children's Act. The case is still being investigated, and according to police, there is only one complaint and no multiple charges at this time.

"He is in our custody," said Bhattarai. "He has been arrested in connection with an offence under the Children's Act. It is under investigation," he said regarding the status of the case, adding, "There are no multiple charges."

SP Bhattarai further said, "There is one complaint, and the investigation is being carried out on that complaint." When asked about reports of a rape allegation, the officer said, "That is not the case. Shrestha has been taken in for investigation over an offence under that Act." He also stated that the arrest took place around four days ago.

Meanwhile, a series of shocking criminal complaints filed at the District Police Range, Kathmandu, have exposed an institutional nightmare of extreme physical torture and sexual exploitation of minor children at the Bhaktivedanta Gurukul run by International Society for Krishna Consciousness in Budhanilkantha.

Official case files reviewed by The Himalayan Times expose an internal conspiracy involving high-level institutional threats, destruction of evidence and manipulation, revealing systemic brutality against a five-year-old boy and multi-year sexual abuse of a young girl.

The victim's relative has lodged an official complaint, claiming that the operator of the Gurukul, Suraj Krishna Shrestha, has terrorised the relative's minor son from April 2023 to January 2024. The child endured repeated, horrific physical punishments. Shrestha systematically tortured the five-year-old, forcing him into painful stress positions and hanging him upside down with sharp iron pins piercing his thighs, calves and soles of his feet.

Other instances of psychological and physical terror involved pressing the child's chest against iron railings and dragging him repeatedly in front of an aggressive bull inside the compound while the administrators threatened to let the animal attack him, one of the victim's relatives told The Himalayan Times.

"The boy was also made to do forced labour, made to wash heavy institutional dishes and starved for seven days in a row on a punitive diet of dry beaten rice (chiura) only, which resulted in severe malnutrition and emergency hospitalisation," the relative told THT.

As per details mentioned in the complaint, the minor was forced to sleep next to communal toilets during an institutional trip to Vrindavan, India, and was brutally beaten for not washing heavy blankets. "The child was removed from the facility in a state of severe trauma and physical deterioration," one of the relatives confirmed.

PADA: OK so this same child cruelty stuff was reported going on in Vrndavana in the 1980s, and evidently -- still is now. That is what PADA has been saying, as long as the same managerial structure is in place, nothing will change. If anything, it looks like it could be getting worse.   

Moreover, the documents obtained by THT revealed that another investigation is underway concerning long-term child sexual abuse of their daughter at the same facility. As per the complaint, the main accused, 19-year-old Ishwar Shrestha, used his position in the Gurukul to repeatedly assault the victim between August 2021 and September 2022.

The detailed formal complaint said the victim was given a "bad touch" inside the kitchen of the institution, pinned down and forcibly kissed inside the main temple hall and repeatedly violated on the rooftop of the building. The constant abuse caused serious behavioural degradation in the minor, who began to have unprovoked crying fits and deep depression. The girl eventually confessed the trauma to a teacher, who alerted the family.

PADA: We heard reports of this same thing from other cases, terrorizing the victims not to speak up -- threatening harm to victims, or parents of victims etc.

Following the teacher's information, the victim's family and relatives decided to pursue legal action. The victim's relatives told THT that the girl is traumatised as a result of abuse and is recovering from a severe psychological impact.

"I do not know whether my child is ever going to recover from this," one of the parents said. The accused Ishwar Shrestha has since gone underground and is believed to be hiding in the ISKCON temple chain in Mathura, India, sources said.

PADA: Oh great, the perp was moved from one ISKCON temple to another to "hide from the authorities." That means ISKCON is evidently involved in moving perps, which has happened already. A Satsvarupa disciple said one of the perps at SDG's school had ALREADY been molesting in another zone, and he was moved to SDG's zone with no alarm sent to the SDG teachers from the previous zone. 

And he left SDG's zone with no alerts sent to the temple he moved to. It is like giving these perp guys free license to roam around and cuddle up -- with children in another zone.

The case files also show a concerted effort by the leadership of ISKCON Nepal to 'cover up' the crimes. A total of 13 high-profile individuals - including ISKCON Budhanilkantha President Sabin Regmi and operators Suraj Krishna Shrestha and Devina Shakha - have been formally named as co-conspirators in a plot to bury the allegations.

PADA: What about Mahavishnu swami, the head leader of the zone? I forgot, he was promoting the pedophile messiah's program in the West, and it bankrupted ISKCON in the USA. And he has moved shop over to Nepal and other "second and third world" places.

The institutional resistance escalated into outright lawlessness on April 22, 2026 (2083/01/09 BS). An independent internal body, the ISKCON Child Protection Oversight Committee, came to Kathmandu to investigate. A hostile mob of 30 to 34 people, led directly by Suraj Krishna Shrestha and Devina Shakha, raided the flat of the investigators at the Buigal Bagan Apartments.

The mob beat up the investigation team and threatened to kill them. They forcibly deleted electronic evidence from their laptops and mobile phones. The principal of the Gurukul surrendered himself and, in police interrogation, initially admitted to these crimes, but the victims' families have expressed deep alarm over a massive institutional cover-up.

PADA: OK so the investigators were beaten up and threatened with death. And they had their electronic devices seized. Hey like they beat up and threatened, and even killed, our people over when we exposed their molesting project. 

The offenders have massive financial resources and high-level influence, and they have hired a team of defence lawyers who are actively manipulating the case, as per victim relatives.

PADA: Ok they always lawyer up. "The offenders have massive financial resources" and they hired a team of defense lawyers. Wow, same thing they did in the USA, hired big time law firms to defend the molester messiah's project. 

Someone told me -- poor ISKCON legal team guy Mrgendra has been sent out on missions to defend the molester messiah's project's BBT rights. And he was sort of originally sincerely trying to help ISKCON, but once it morphed into the molester messiah's program, he was sort of stuck there with that lot. He probably would like to get himself out of there, but he has made his bed with them and cannot free himself. 

Sura told me the same type thing, he hates the GBC, he agrees -- there is for sure a lot of child molesting -- and he personally would not send ANY child EVER to their program, but -- they pay his rent and give him subsistence money. So he has to go along with their process. 

That is very sad, I feel sorry for those guys. They are serving Kamsa's empire, knowingly or not, OK at this stage they probably know it, but he is their paymaster. In any case, this is what happens, they orchestrate God awful things and then --lawyer up to defend their regime. And then all the perps, their thug defenders, the defense lawyers etc. are implicated in the karma of supporting the regime, and that karma will be severe. 

OK the karma is catching up. 

"In a bizarre legal manoeuvre, defence counsel falsely claimed in court that the Gurukul had shut down four to five years ago, completely ignoring concrete evidence that the school is still operational," the victims' relatives told THT.
#ISKCON-Budhanilkantha

PADA: OK first lie, then lie again, then cheat and cheat, and then bully people when all that fails. So this Mahavishnu guy floats around with a clown hat and clowns around like everything is some sort of comedy show. But if we cross his program, the knives come out, go get the dissenters. The investigators get beat up, have their phone devices seized, they get death threats etc. 

And did I forget to mention someone said Mahavishnu had Nepal boys sent to Mayapur and they got abused there. And he was thus "engaged in human trafficking." I dunno, but we do know the track record of their program is not good. 

Sulochana said these ISKCON leader guys come across as all smiles and lovey dovey, but if we cross them, we will get beat up -- or killed. He said the ISKCON leaders are "the velvet glove that covers the iron fist." 

But this is good news, get the police and media involved, and shake them down. That is the best -- if not only -- way that works factually. Of course as soon as anyone takes their sacred molester messiahs program to task, then we have GBC folks and their HKC Jaipur aliied guys crying that their molester messiahs program leaders will no longer have money for their Mercedes. 

Sorry, we need to take this operation down, it is harming children, sometimes -- or often -- with irreparable LIFETIME damage. It needs to be stopped. Pronto! Honestly, I am always amazed it is still going on at all. None of these leader guys has learned anything in all this time, and the followers often have become fanatical die hard supporters. This is a DANGEROUS cult. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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JPS ex-Servant

My name is Aniruddha Chandra Das and I was initiated by Jayapataka Swami in
1986. From 1990 to 1995 I was his assistant and bodyguard, I traveled with him all over the world while my family lived in Mayapur. In all those years I witnessed
the same things that Prem Sagar das mentioned in his letter, and that is why I
agree with him.

When I traveled with JPS to Dallas in 1994, the wife of the temple commander of that temple, who collected hundreds of thousands of dollars for her guru, Tamal Krishna Gosvami, and who had their children in that city's gurukula, presented JPS with a folder with a detailed report on the abuses suffered by her children there.

First, her first son was abused, and she reported this to her guru, who told her that he was going to take care of the matter and sent her to travel to continue collecting. When she returned, she found out that her first child had been abused again and that the second had also been abused. She told JPS all the details in front of me and handed him a folder containing the full report on both cases.

JPS gave me that folder, and in Mayapur he asked me to file it in a cabinet in his office In other words nothing was done about it. The only one who read the content of that folder was me and that is why I can confirm to what had happened No GBC or authority had access to that information.

On another occasion, when the gurukulis had sued ISKCON for millions of dollars for the abuse case, JPS was upset and complained that why should they give anything to them if he and other GBCs had not done any direct abuse to them, in fact they should the abusers directly not the GBC.

At that time I gave my life for him and as his bodyguard in Mayapur I carried a 38-caliber pistol. One day, speaking directly about this matter, he told me that if anything happened, that if I even used the gun to defend him, he would say that he knew nothing about it as a result would be leaving me at the mercy of whatever could happen to me. 

It was that moment that I realized, I thought that for years I had been giving my life for this person who told me that I would have to take care of myself, I would have to face the consequences by Indian Law if I ever use the gun in order to protect JPS. 

Regards,
Anirudha Chandra das

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Decoding Karma

Dhritrastra and the Karma That Awaited Him

After the Kurukshetra war ended, the palace of Hastinapura was filled with unbearable silence. The battlefield had become quiet, the conches had stopped, and the warriors who once shook the earth were gone. But the greatest sorrow was inside the heart of one old king: Dhritrastra.

He had been blind from birth, but now his life had entered a darkness far deeper than physical blindness. His hundred sons were dead. Duryodhana, Dushasana, and all the sons whom he had loved, protected, excused, and favoured were gone forever. The king who once sat on the throne of Hastinapura now sat helpless, broken by grief.

In that terrible pain, Dhritrastra turned to Krishna and asked, “Why has this happened to me? I know I have made mistakes. I know I was attached to my sons. But what terrible sin have I committed that I should be born blind and then lose all my hundred sons?”

Krishna, who knows the past, present, and future, did not answer to wound him. He answered to awaken him. With compassion, Krishna revealed the truth of his past karma.

He told Dhritrastra, “Fifty births ago, you were a hunter. One day, in the forest, you saw a tree where many birds lived with their young ones. Out of cruelty, you threw a burning net over that tree. The helpless baby birds were trapped in the flames and died. The parent birds managed to escape, but the heat of the fire blinded them. They flew away crying, unable to see, unable to save their children, carrying unbearable pain in their hearts.”

When Dhritrastra heard this, he trembled. The suffering he had caused to those innocent birds had returned to him. Because the parent birds were blinded, he was born blind. Because the young birds were burnt and destroyed, he had to experience the loss of his own hundred sons.

But Dhritrastra had another question. “Krishna, if I committed this sin fifty births ago, why did the reaction come only now? Why did it not punish me in that life itself? Why did it wait for so long?”

Krishna explained the subtle working of karma. To suffer the pain of losing one hundred sons, Dhritrastra first needed the good karma to receive one hundred sons. That sinful reaction could not fully manifest until the proper condition was created. Over many births, he accumulated enough pious merit to be born as a king and become the father of one hundred sons. Only then did the old karma ripen and strike.

This is the frightening precision of karma. It may wait, but it does not forget. It may remain silent, but it does not disappear. It may sleep for one birth, ten births, or fifty births, but when the right time comes, it awakens.

In the laws of this world, a person may sometimes escape. A criminal may find a loophole. A clever person may hide evidence. A powerful person may avoid punishment. Human law can be delayed, manipulated, or even defeated. But the law of karma cannot be cheated. There is no bribing it, no hiding from it, no technical escape, no clever argument, and no secret place where one can run. The witness is within the heart, and nature records every action.

This is why karma is not ordinary justice. It is divine arrangement working through material nature. Every action becomes a seed. Every seed waits for the right season. Good karma brings its own fruit, and bad karma brings its own fruit. One does not simply cancel the other. Dhritrastra’s good karma gave him kingship and one hundred sons. His bad karma brought blindness and the pain of losing them.

This story should not make us hopeless. It should make us careful. No cruelty is small. No pain caused to the helpless is forgotten. No selfish action vanishes just because time has passed. But the same truth also gives hope. No prayer is lost. No service is wasted. No sincere chanting of Krishna’s holy names disappears.
Dhritrastra’s tears teach us that karma may be delayed, but there is no escaping it by material means. The only real shelter is not cleverness, power, position, or argument. The only shelter beyond karma is surrender to Krishna.

In Part 1.5, we will see how bhakti can do what good karma cannot do: burn the root of karma itself and free the soul from the cycle of action and reaction. Like and follow my page for the next part.

Hare Krishna

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PLEASE DO NOT RE-WRITE MY WORDS

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VEDABASE IMBROGLIO

ABOUT USING THE NAME "VEDABASE"

We have received a cease and desist letter signed by lawyer Harvey Mechanic (known in the community as M asegendra Dāsa), on behalf of the Bhaktivedanta Archives, demanding that we stop using the name "Vedabase" and abandon the vedabase.cc domain before June 17, 2026. We have attached the whole letter as an image and translation in a comment.

We want to share the facts with the community:

• According to the Public Trademark Records (USPTO), the American registration of "VEDABASE" dates back to 2015 — not 1995 — and was canceled in 2021. The registration that is now being invoked is from a few days ago. That is, there is no consolidated brand "used worldwide since 1995": there is one registration that expired and another newly created this May 7, for this management.

• On the day we offered to vedabase.io to publish the original texts of Srīla Prabhupāda, and the proposal was rejected. Let's keep a record of that.

• vedabase.cc offers these texts for free and without profit.

It is difficult to understand that an entity like the Bhaktivedanta Archives who always complains about having no funds, devotes money and legal letters to curb a service that gives away original texts, rather than disseminating them.

On our part, we already have several alternative domains available. If we ever had to change our address, it will be a simple step, we will announce it here and access to the original texts will not be interrupted. Whoever wants to continue reading them will just have to point in the new direction.

We will keep the community informed of any updates. Our commitment is only one: to preserve and disseminate original texts, free of cost to whoever needs them.

PADA: Unfortunately this has been an ongoing issue for a long time, why is the GBC changing the books? OK we know already, the GBC's main editor in chief Jayadvaita swami has hi-jacked the rights to the books and he is re-editing them.

And as for "confusing the public," people write PADA asking me all the time about the changed books, who authorized these changes, which editions are not changed and etc. Changing the books is creating this confusion all by itself

Why has JAS been chosen by the molester messiah's project to re-edit the books?

Because JAS supports their whole illicit sex guru parampara idea and says ISKCON's gurus can be found engaged in illicit sex with men, women and possibly children. OK it is a molester messiahs project! And he is the pedophile messiah's sampradaya's topmost editor, writer, enabler, apologist and position paper help mate for that project.

So he is like the darling writer and spokesman of the pedophile messiah's project's GBC, because he openly says it is an illicit sex contaminated parampara, left and right. He admits they are promoting deviants as God's successors, and thus -- the GBC makes him their prime editor and spokesman.

I even congratulated JAS at Rathayatra, "you admit, you have a guru parampara of illicit sex with men, women and maybe children, ok actually minors. Thanks, better summary than I ever could have wrote myself! Your messiahs from heaven gurus are doing the hokey pokey with everyone in the house!" (He ran away from me at that point.)

And there are also sordid reports of JAS's former messiah Kirtanananda trying to have sex with his cat, among all his shennanigans with boys in the cottage and motorhome. And that is why Kirtanananda is one of the former messiahs of the JAS clan, who was presented with a divine samadhi by other folks in the JAS team in Vrndavana (like Radhanath). Even a media person asked me "can you tell me exactly what is homosexual pedophile samadhi"? I dunno, ask the JAS people.

And Jayadvaita's pedophile messiah's project clan defended Kirtanananda by sending hit men out -- to ice me and Sulochana. And Sulochana was iced, I would have been too without help from the police. These people mean business!

The only good news is that Harikesh advises gurus using condoms when having illicit sex, so there won't a bunch of mini-Harikesh's running amok. And this is the guru parampara we need to make authorized re-editing versions of the Vedas?

In other words, Jayadvaita is the head honcho of the anal reconstructive surgery epidemic / Auschwitz for kids "messiahs from heaven" project. He even told me, the reason people (like 5 years old gurukula children) are getting a bad guru is "they chose the wrong guru." The 5 years old children are to be blamed for making illicit sex with men, women and children into their gurus? They chose that? Wow, victim blaming on steroids.

Wait, what? No, the GBC votes in these gurus, not the five years old children. This JAS guy is blaming HIS program's OWN victims for the intense suffering they endured in Jayadvaita's project's "gurukula", including reported starving, beating, sexual abuse and in sum, Auschwitz for kids.

Did I forget to mention we helped children victims sue these gurus in 1986, and again in 1999, for mass child abuse? Did I forget to mention, a woman wrote to complain to PADA when I said maybe 50% of the Jayadvaita swami guru system is homosexuals, and she chastised me severely, saying it is more like 95% -- or more? And PADA is misleading people claiming it is only 50% homosexuals?

After all the $400,000,000 lawsuit problem came out, then the JAS people started a lawsuit against the Akshaya Patra directors, who are feeding millions of kids in India. Allegedly this has cost ISKCON $20,000,000. And yeah they lost the $400,000,000 case and bankrupted ISKCON. And these are the people we want to edit the Vedas? A certified mass child abuse cult project, that beats and kills us dissenters, and its leaders like JAS?

A program that is sued for NOT FEEDING KIDS, wants to jail the leaders of a free food program that is FEEDING KIDS. And all this is done magically because they spend endless amounts on lawyers.

But yeah, they always complain they have no money, and that is why the Jayaptaka people wrote me a nasty note saying I cost them $100,000,000 in legal issues, helping various lawsuits. They even said I am more expensive than the TOVP. OK they are only able to promote illicit sex with men, women and children as God's messiahs -- by hiding behind a wall of lawyers. Anyway, if anyone can help the original books folks, they should.

But yeah, the GBC lost their charity status in India and evidently Radhanath's ECO village lost their charity status too, because this is a pedophile messiah's project, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills people, and not a bona fide religion. A homosexual and pedophile messiah's project has hi-jacked ISKCON, and the books, and wants to kill me for not going along, and that is what happened here and we all know it. You can hide behind a wall of lawyers here, but not on Yamaraja's planet.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

Child beating and raping society leaders.

AKA Auschwitz for kids.

Birds of a Feather. 

Editors of the Vedas.

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Health Update Of H. H. Jayapataka Swami Maharaja 13th June 2026

Hare Krishna Dear Devotees, Disciples and well wishers,

Please accept our humble obeisances,

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Today our beloved Guru Maharaja developed *low blood pressure along with an elevated heart rate during dialysis.* After careful consideration, Guru Maharaja’s care team decided it would be safest to transfer him to the hospital for further evaluation and treatment.

Guru Maharaja is currently undergoing tests and receiving medical care at one of the leading hospitals in Dallas.

He is under the close supervision of his personal physician as well as a local disciple-doctor, and is in good hands.

At this time, we kindly request all devotees to offer sincere prayers to Sri Sri Radha Madhava, Sri Pancatattva ,

Sri Prahlad Narasimhadev and Srila Prabhupada for Guru Maharaja’s health, protection, and swift recovery.
We will continue to provide updates as more information becomes available.


On behalf of JPS Health Team & JPS Seva Committee
Maha Varaha Dāsa

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CONCERNS ABOUT ISKCON'S "HINDUIZATION"

ISKCON is the bona fide movement for universal deliverance through the Holy Names of the Lord because it was founded by Lord Chaitinya's pure devotee representative. However, self-appointed thugs "Godfathers" hijacked the movement and injected their own change disease into it. As a result, the books were changed,, mahatma disciples of Prabhupada were expelled by the thousands, Back to Godhead was diminished, children were molested, and millions of dollars were squandered. The wake-up call came when ISKCON was sued for 400 million dollars, and had to fork over 15 million and declare bankruptcy. As a result, the leaders turned to flattering Hindu professionals in America and elsewhere in order to obtain necesary funds. With that came one compromise after another until the essence was basically lost and it has become a social meeting place for Hindus.
As far as I am concerned, that is fine. Fine, providing the Hindus learn how to follow Prabhupada's example and go out and convince the Westerners that ISKCON stands for pure bhakti and not Indian get-togethers. But only a tiny fraction of them have become preachers. Who is to blame? Their gurus.

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The Chanting is popular, just -- not in ISKCON's ghost town temples and disappeared samkirtana process. 

Lajja Rasa / Locanananda / Rupanuga

Radharani's Lajja‑bhava (shyness) -- *** Appears also in the hearts of other Krishna‑bhaktas in different levels and aspects, but it appears fully in Sri Radharaṇi. It is called an emotional ornament (bhava‑alankara) within Vaisnava rasa theology. And it plays a partial and sometime major role in the different moods of Radha and Krishna's mādhurya‑rasa leelas. 

Lajja is also defined as timidness, shyness, bashfulness, or modesty -- in Radha’s feelings for Krishna. Sometimes it is mixed or blended -- with the qualities of humbleness and submissiveness, which is another emotional component of their rasas.

Rūpa Gosvami’s Bhakti‑rasamṛta‑sindhu classifies lajja as one of the supporting emotions (sañcārī‑bhāvas) that enrich the primary rasas, such as shyness and bashfulness -- added to other aspects of these rasas. Thus Lajjā is one such supporting emotions, appearing especially in mādhurya‑rasa, the conjugal mood of Radha‑Krishna. Rūpa Gosvāmī also lists lajjā under the vyabhicāri‑bhāvas (also called sañcārī‑bhāvas), which are called transient emotions that arise and subside at different times, enriching the permanent mood (sthāyī‑bhāva). The Southern Ocean of Bhakti‑rasāmṛta‑sindhu includes the section on vyabhicāri‑bhāvas (Fourth Wave) where lajja is further categorized.

Thus Radharani is said to be shy, humble, bashful, modest and submissive -- as part of the highest levels of Krishna prema. And these are descriptions of divine qualities all Vaisnava devotees of Radha and Krishna aspire to follow. And thus it is said, a Vaishnava tries to follow in the footsteps of the gopis, and Sri Radharani is the foremost of the gopis.

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MOWING THE LAWN 

PADA: Oh no pilgrims! Someone told PADA that his friends in Israel call bombing Muslim nations "mowing the lawn." We will bomb the bejeepers out of them today, but we know it is a question of time, the grass will grow back again, and we will have to mow them down all over again, and again, and again tommorrow and forever. And he said, they all know this process never actually ends, and never will end. 

We will never actually end the process of mowing the lawn, it is perpetual. And they seem to want it that way. And now that we are helping them mow the lawn, they are happy as clams! Wowsers. Say it ain't so! 

And yep, same type things happened in ISKCON. We need to mow down those pesky Prabhupada worshipers! Then our pedophile messiah's project will survive. But they keep re-appearing! OK lets sue them in Delhi court, and get rid of em that way! Maybe not! 

ys pd  angel108b@yahoo.com

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MAHESH RAJA: Locanananda

The GBC could convene and declare that henceforward those giving diksa would by referred to as officiating acharyas in accordance with the transcendental nomenclature suggested by Srila Prabhupada himself on May 28, 1977

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2026/06/new-vedabase-locanananda-radha-kund.html

Note: Locanandana initiated 2 devotees in New York THEN he told them they were HIS disciples NOT Srila Prabhupada's. (One of the devotee he initiated told me this). This "Officiating Acarya" cunning MANIPULATION from Locanananda is his CON ARTIST job. July 9th 1977 specifically states that disicples so initiated are Srila Prabhupada's. 1st and 2nd Initiation is ON BEHALF of Srila Prabhupada.

Hare Krsna!

PADA: Yeah Locanananda is all over the map. He is with us, with the GBC, and for himself, all at the same time. He has made some good comments, and off the wall comments, but overall, he seems to be hiding what his real idea is so he can make double dealing secret programs, to promote -- himself. Very sad. ys pd

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RESPONSE TO RUPANUGA / TO BE DIKSHA GURU ONE NEEDS THE DIRECT ORDER OF THE ACHARYA

Compiled by Yashoda-nandana dasa
Srila Prabhupada explained that His Guru Maharaja never appointed anybody as acarya.

"They wanted to create artificially somebody as acarya..."

Note: The ISKCON GBC artificially created 11 acaryas in March of 1978.

"… and everything failed. They did not consider even with common sense: that if guru Maharaja wanted to appoint somebody as acarya, why did he not say? …

Note: If Srila Prabhupada wanted to appoint 11 acaryas [diksa-gurus] for ISKCON, why did he not directly say?

"...He said so many things, and this point He missed? The real point?

Note: Similarly, Srila Prabhupada said so many things in the last few months of 1977, and the real point He missed?

"… and they insisted upon it. They declared some unfit person to become…

SPC (BBT 1991) 15.08.76

Note: And the GBC misheard, misunderstood, and misrepresented to the body of ISKCON devotees that 11 had been “appointed” as acaryas. And they insisted upon it. And they declared some unfit persons to become acaryas.

If His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada did not appoint anyone as acarya [or diksa guru] for His mission, what makes the leading secretaries of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada think that He would appoint one acarya or a group of acaryas for His Mission, in direct contradiction of His criticism of this whole concept in August of 1976.

They never thought, "Why Guru Mahārāja gave us instruction so many things, why he did not say that this man should be ācārya."

Prabhupāda: Every devotee, they must follow the rules and regulations, that's all…

Acyutānanda: What prompts the soul to misuse his independence or improperly use...?

Prabhupāda: Because he has got little independence. Yathecchasi tathā, he has got this.

Acyutānanda: Why do some misuse it and some never misuse it?

Prabhupāda: That depends on him. If one is determined that "I shall only act according to the advice of my Guru Mahārāja," then he's perfect. One has to submit like Arjuna said, sisyas te ham sadhi mam prapannam [Bg. 2.7]. 

Otherwise, he'll argue.

Devotee: Even nitya-siddha has guru.

Yaśomatīnandana: Even the liberated soul, nitya-siddha.

Prabhupāda: Liberated soul never says that "I am liberated." As soon as he says "liberated," he's a rascal. A liberated soul will never say that "I am liberated." That is liberated. Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He is God—guru more mūrkha dekhi' karila śāsan [Cc. Ādi 7.71]. 

"My Guru Mahārāja saw Me a fool number one, and he has chastised Me." He's God. This is the example. If one remains always a servant ever - lastingly of guru, then he is liberated. And as soon as he thinks that he is liberated, he's a rascal. That is the teaching of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Guru more mūrkha dekhi'. Caitanya Mahāprabhu is mūrkha? 

Why He's posing Himself that mūrkha? "I am fool number one." That means that is liberation. You must be ready always to be chastised by guru. Then he's liberated. And as soon as he thinks that "I am beyond this chastisement, I am liberated," he's a rascal. Why Caitanya Mahāprabhu says guru more mūrkha dekhi' karila śāsan? 

This is sahajiyā-vāda. He is thinking, "Oh I have become liberated. I don't require any direction of my guru. I'm liberated." Then he's rascal.

"Why this Gauḍīya Maṭha failed? Because they tried to become more than guru. He, before passing away, he gave all direction and never said that "This man should be the next ācārya." But these people, just after his passing away they began to fight, who shall be ācārya. That is the failure. They never thought, "Why Guru Mahārāja gave us instruction so many things, why he did not say that this man should be ācārya?" They wanted to create artificially somebody as ācārya and everything failed. They did not consider even with common sense that if Guru Mahārāja wanted to appoint somebody as ācārya, why did he not say? He said so many things, and this point he missed? The real point? And they insisted upon it. They declared some unfit person to become ācārya. Then another man came, then another, ācārya, another ācārya. So better remain a foolish person perpetually to be directed by Guru Mahārāja. That is perfection. And as soon as he learns the Guru Mahārāja is dead, "Now I am so advanced that I can kill my guru and I become guru." Then he's finished."

Yaśomatīnandana: They kept fighting, and when the real ācārya emerged they all became wonderstruck. They all became baffled. Now they all know in their hearts. They all know it. I can see. They all know that who is real ācārya.

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: The real ācārya emerges by his own preaching?

Devotee: Yes. (devotees offer obeisances)

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. (end) Srila Prabhupada conversation, August 16, 1976, Bombay, India

Srila Prabhupada explains that there is no record that HDGBSTP nominated “any acarya” after him “… I have also read specifically your articles on the matter of acaryas, wherein on the 14th paragraph I see the acarya shall be entitled to nominate in in writing his successive acarya. But we do not find any record where our Srila Prabhupada nominated any acarya after Him. Different persons have interpreted on this point, and everyone of our Godbrothers are acting as acarya, so this is a controversial point which I do not wish to enter into while we are proposing for co-operation…” Srila Prabhupada letter 1969 (SPL (VI 1987) 69.8.38)

Note: Where is the actual verifiable record that Srila Prabhupada [HDG ACBSP] 

“nominated any acarya[s] after Him”?

Srila Prabhupada’s definition of diksa.

“Then you can say ‘Yes, I know everything.‘ Diksa. Diksa, initiation, diksa, this Sanskrit word, diksa, means divya-jnanam ksipayati ask from spiritual master with service…..”

That very word initiation suggests, "This is the beginning." Dīkṣā, dīkṣā. Di... Divya. There are two words, divya-jñāna. Divya-jñāna means transcendental, spiritual knowledge. So divya is dī, and jñānam, kṣapayati, explaining, that is kṣa, dī-kṣā. This is called dīkṣā, dīkṣā, the combination. So dīkṣā means the initiation to begin transcendental activities. That is called initiation. Therefore, we take promise from the disciple that "You chant so many times," "Yes, sir." "You observe these rules and regulations," "Yes, sir." That is initiation. He has to observe; he has to chant. Then everything comes automatically.

SP Lecture. Auckland, New Zealand, February 22, 1973

Srila Prabhupada defines obedience.

“I may say many things to you, but when I say something directly to you, you do it. Your first duty is to do that, you cannot argue -‘Sir, you said to me do like this before’, no that is not your duty, what I say to you now you do it, that is obedience you cannot argue.”

SP S.B. Lecture, 14/4/75, Hyderabad

Guru cannot be self-made – Guru must be authorized.

Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic literature. And nowadays, so many rascals, they are becoming guru without any authority. That is not guru. You must be authorized. Evam parampara-praptam imam ra… As soon as the parampara is….kalena yogo nasta parantapa, immediately finished. The spiritual potency finished. You can dress like a guru, you can talk big, big words, but it will never be effective.”
Srila Prabhupada’s Lecture, February 27th, 1977, Mayapur, India

Guru must be authorized by the bona fide Guru.

“Self-made guru cannot be guru. He must be authorized by the bona fide guru. Then he’s guru. This is the fact…Similarly, bona fide guru means he must be authorized by the superior guru.”

SP NOD Lecture, October 31. 1972

Guru must be authorized by his predecessor spiritual master.

“One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called diksa-vidhana.” (S.B. 4.8.54, purport)

Guru must be ordered by his guru.

Prabhupada: Try to understand. Don’t go very speedily. A guru can become guru when he’s ordered by his guru. That’s all. Otherwise nobody SP Bg. Lecture, 28th October 1975

DIKSA GURU MUST BE ORDERED
“Vallabha Bhatta wanted to be initiated by Gadadhara Pandita, but Gadadhara Pandita refused, saying, “The work of acting as a spiritual master is not possible for me. “I am completely dependent. My Lord is Gauracandra, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. I cannot do anything independently, without His order.” CC, Antya 7:150-151

Position of the actual guru.

“An actual guru always remains the servant of his own guru and the predecessor acaryas. Attempting to become a guru without one’s own guru’s order is a materialistic ambition. Accepting followers and circumventing one’s own guru is offensive.” Ref. VedaBase MGM 22-11

Srila Prabhupada explains how he became the leader of the KC movement. Guru must be ordered by His guru.

“Indian man: When did you become spiritual the leader of Krsna Consciousness?

Srila Prabhupada: What is that?

Brahmananda: He is asking when did you become the spiritual leader of Krsna Consciousness?

Srila Prabhupada: When my Guru Maharaja ordered me. This is the guru parampara.

Indian man: Did it…

Srila Prabhupada: Try to understand. Don’t go very speedily. A guru can become guru when he is ordered by his guru. That’s all. Otherwise, nobody can become guru.” SP Bg. Lecture, 28/10/75

Guru must be authorized / Guru cannot be self-made. Position of gurus without authority.

Guru must be authorized by the bona fide guru.

“Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic literature. And nowadays, so many rascals, they are becoming guru without any authority. That is not guru. You must be authorized. Evam parampara-praptam imam ra… As soon as the parampara is…kalena yogo nasta parantapa, immediately finished. The spiritual potency finished. You can dress like a guru, you can talk big, big words, but it will never be effective.” SP Lecture, February 27th 1977, Mayapur, India

“Self-made guru cannot be guru. He must be authorized by the bona fide guru. Then he’s guru. This is the fact…Similarly, bona fide guru means he must be authorized by the superior guru.”

SP NOD Lecture, October 31. 1972

Guru must be authorized person.

“Therefore, guru must be authorized person, not that bhumi-phala-guru. No. I am guru,” no. You cannot become guru unless you are agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna. That is guru. And therefore, a guru is not an ordinary person. He is the representative, bona fide representative of Krsna.”

SP SB Lecture, November 30, 1976

Guru cannot impart instructions without being authorized.

“The schoolmasters in the modern days are paid agents for giving some information, but the spiritual master is not a paid agent. Nor can he impart instruction without being authorized.” SB:2.9.43, purport

Srila Prabhupada predicts what happens when the acarya disappears?

“Unfortunately, when the acarya disappears, rogues and non-devotees take advantage and immediately begin to introduce unauthorized principles in the name of so-called svamis, yogis, philanthropists, welfare workers and so on.”
SB 4.28.48

Do not make addition, alteration. / Results of making additions and alterations.
Many times, they give me very great credit that I have done wonderful. Yes, I have done wonderful. But what is the reason? Because I am not a rascal. I speak what Krsna has spoken. That’s all. Very easy. Everyone can do that. Not only I. Any of you, you can do this. Simply speak what is…, what Krsna has said. That’s all. Don’t make addition, alteration. Then you become rascal. Immediately you become rascal.

SP Srimad-Bhagavatam Lecture 1.5.29 Vrndavana, August 10, 1974

Danger of concocting.

Prabhupada: Ara na koriha mane asa. Don’t concoct. Don’t you sing daily? Ara na koriha mane asa. Don’t manufacture ideas. That is dangerous. Caitanya Mahaprabhu teaches by His example. Guru more murkha dekhi’ karila sasana. Caitanya Mahaprabhu said to Prakasananda Sarasvati that “My spiritual master saw Me fool number one, so he has chastised Me, that ‘Don’t try to read Vedanta, chant Hare Krsna

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Go to right person who has seen. Do not make your own interpretation. 

Prabhupada: Therefore, Krsna says, tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya: “One who knows, go and understand from them, from the guru.” Don’t make your interpretation, rascal. You shall remain always arascal. Then what is the use of all these verses? If it is so easy to understand Krsna then why Krsna says, tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya: “Then you will understand. Go to the right person who has seen.” .

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Have fun with the typical misrepresentation of Srila Prabhupada’s"s final oder.
See at the end...

"I will name some of you regular gurus"

But the unedited, non adulterated May 28, 1977 conversation does not contain this fanciful interpretation and fabrication.

Mr. Rupanuga has conveniently ignored the words "When I order.."

Which leads to the important question "When did Srila Prabhupada factually order any of his disciples as "regular gurus" or initiating acharyas.

RUPANUGA PRABHU IS OUR SENIORMOST SRILA PRABHUPADA DISCIPLE. He served on Srila Prabhupada’s GBC for over 30 years, and had more direct contact and association with Srila Prabhupada than all the rest of them together. He is now in his early 80’s and has the wisdom of maturity and a lifetime of sincere devotion to Srila Prabhupada. He never chose to act as an initiating guru although that option was there for him. Instead he chose to serve Srila Prabhupada’s original mission based on love and trust.

Maybe we should hear what he has to say about such important issues…….

RUPANUGA PRABHU WRITES:

SRILA PRABHUPADA'S BATTLEFIELD COMMISSIONS

"Actually, I have not given any of you sannyas. But I am in a war with Maya, the material energy, and I need leaders. It is called in wartime, 'battlefield commission.'

There is no qualified leaders, but someone has to lead the charge. So, you take every fifth man, 'You are now lieutenant of the squad.' He is really a private, but we make him lieutenant for the day and he leads the charge. It is to be understood that you are not sufficiently equipped for this fight and most of you will go down."

(Srila Prabhupada Conv., July 1976)

It has been revealed by witnesses that six months later, at The Kumba Mela in mid-January, 1977, there was a meeting of all the sannyasis present there, 35-40 of them, with Srila Prabhupada. The witnesses report that Srila Prabhupada was very angry and was loudly chastising them, saying: "This is not sannyas! This is not meaning of sannyas; you are making a mockery of sannyas!" He demanded that no more sannyasis be created, as he also demanded in the January 7th meeting, a week before the Kumba Mela.

In the conversation on Jan. 7th 1977, Srila Prabhupada told Jagadisa GBC, and Trivikram Maharaj, Hari Sauri, Palika dasi, Dr. Patel, who were also present: "But this hypocrisy should be stopped. First of all, there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience. And, at least we are not going to create new sannyasis. And those who have fallen, let them marry, live like respectable gentlemen. I have no objection. After all, young man, fallen down—that's all right. It is by nature's way. But marry that girl..." (page 331, Vol 28, Conv. Books.)

Earlier, during that same conversation, page 318, he also said: "This should be strictly outlawed, no more sannyasis. And those who have fallen, you get them married..." Srila Prabhupada went into considerable detail regarding his reasons during this conversation. And there were no recommendations for sannyas that upcoming Gaurpurnima on March 5th1977, as was previously usually given to Srila Prabhupada at Gaurpurnima time.

However, he gave three sannyas initiations on May 29th 1977, to Bhakticaru, Premabhakti and Bhakticaitanya, all Bengalis, in Vrindavan, the very day after the May 28th GBC meeting! Bhakticaru Swami had just met Srila Prabhupada four months earlier and was receiving sannyas, first, and second initiations all at one time!

PADA: Good, so on Jan 7th, 1977 they are falling down left and right, and are thus not qualified for sannyasa. Worse, they are making a mockery of the sannyasa order. Thus! They should get married and be householders. But suddenly -- one year later -- on Jan 7th, 1978, they are telescoped to being the eternal residents of Krishna loka and servants of the gopis? How is that even possible. 

And why didn't Rupanuga and others know that telescoping "unqualified persons for sannyasa" would result in scandals and disasters by making them -- eternally liberated acharyas? OK a few exceptions were made in 1977, but the overall tone and tenor was to suspend sannyasa. Never mind we all knew these sannyasas were failing left and right. 

These three sannyas initiations are erroneously cited as proof that Srila Prabhupada was rescinding his order to discontinue sannyas in Iskcon. But it was his prerogative to make exceptions to the rule he had made a few months before. Why did he? To strengthen the Indian Yatra? 

(Note, they were all Bengalis.) 

But this does not change the fact that he ordered the devotees--..."there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience." "This should be strictly outlawed, no more sannyas." (Jan. 7th 1977) Those who are doubtful should read these conversations, which were quite descriptive and definitive, not tentative or temporary.

It was Srila Prabhupada's prerogative to make an exception, but that exception was later used as an excuse to continue sannyas initiations everywhere after his disappearance. And the exception was made the rule—surreptitiously. This is cheating, and the result has been the continual evolution of an unauthorized elitist priesthood with wealth, followers and prestige. But the truth is, Srila Prabhupada stopped his sannyasi "battlefield commissions" BEFORE HE LEFT.

During this January 7th conversation, Srila Prabhupada also spoke strongly and positively about the grihastha ashram. Actually, the history is that the movement was initially spread by grihasthas, and the whole GBC was originally all grhasthas. None of the above information was passed on to the rest of the GBC, or to the general devotees, and therefore nothing was done about it. Nothing has been done about it still, till this day!

And when Tamal Krishna took sannyas, Srila Prabhupada wanted him replaced on the GBC, but he refused to leave. That is a fact; I was there, but Srila Prabhupada knew how far he could bend certain bamboos without breaking them, and Tamal Krishna could not bend very far, so he didn’t insist.

Your servant,

Rupanuga das, ACBSP

PADA: Rupanuga was still propping up homosexual and pedophile messiah Kirtanananda as their acharya in 1986, when me and Sulochana were trying to bring him down. Then the Rupanuga reformers excommunicated Sulochana (and me de facto). Sulochana said "they painted a bull's eye on my back to get me assassinated." 

And a few months later, he was. 

Rupanuga knew they were not qualified for sannyasa and therefore not qualified to be acharyas, but so did many of the rest of us. So he promoted a very dangerous illusion that conditioned souls are God's servants, and then all the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders started -- and these guys are responsible for the results because they co-created this imbroglio. 

And then I had to live with a constant stream of death threats for most of my adult life as a result. But I am not complaining too much. At least I was not a child in Rupaniga's program's "death camp for kids" aka Auschwitz for kids, from which victims told me they were starved, beaten, had bones broken and teeth knocked out, and also raped and insulted constantly etc. 

Never mind a number of them told me they had not even been trained properly in basic schooling of reading, writing and math, so they had a hard jump start getting into the material world. Some of them just could not make it and -- died in different ways, often horrible ways.

And thus a number of victims committed suicide, or died from drugs and so on, and many are not doing well now with all sorts of physical and mental trauma issues etc. At least I was not a victim of Rupanauga's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic for kids program, as a kid, but I was a victim of being hunted for death because -- I advocated for those kids. 

If they would hunt me to kill me for being an advocate, imagine how much pressure they put on their program's kid victims to stay silent. In any case, someone's party will collectively be held accountable for all this eventually, and it will not only be the perps, but also all their advocates, hand maidens, enablers, associates, apologists, sycophants, guru wanna-be pals etc. 

I kinda like Rupanaga personally, but dude, you really backed the wrong party here sir, and your fate is now FULLY tied to theirs. And that cannot be changed even by presidential decree pardons, you are culpable, and you will have to pay for that support at some time, sorry. I also understand why you do not like the ritviks, we had to expose your sorry a** program and have it sued and etc.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com