Sunday, August 30, 2026

India Cults / Mayapur Schools / Initiations / SP Vyasa Puja 08 30 26


India's pedophile guru cults is not just ISKCON's problem. 

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MAYAPUR SCHOOLS

Hare Krishna

Something with the Children (and Women too) is not happening good in Mayapur. Just in the last few weeks, there are 7-8 cases came to public related to CHILD & women too just in ISKCON Mayapur campus itself. Besides, Another complaint has been posted anonymously by an Ex-Primary SMIS teacher in the Mayapur Community Forum WA group highlighting the concerns towards how the School Management focus is not towards the CHILD CARE & PROTECTION at all. The original message is below for your read.

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Hare Krishna, Dear Devotees.

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I would like to share my experience of working at SMIS. I am sharing this with the sincere hope that it will contribute positively to the school and the community.
My first year at SMIS was a wonderful experience. However, after I became a primary form teacher, I witnessed what felt to me like a very different reality in the way the primary section was being managed.

Unfortunately, in my experience, some practices in the primary section have contributed to what I felt was a difficult and unhealthy work environment.

* Weak students are not adequately supported: Instead of providing extra guidance, patience, and encouragement to children who struggle academically, I sometimes felt that there was an inclination to remove weaker students from the school rather than support them in improving. Every child deserves patience, support, and an opportunity to grow.

* Discrimination and exclusion: I observed students being treated differently based on their race and nationality. I also witnessed children being excluded from English classes when they were academically behind. Although the coordinator is a capable and knowledgeable teacher, I found some of her interactions with students and colleagues deeply discouraging. I also witnessed instances that I felt were mocking or belittling towards others.

* Teachers need greater support and appreciation: In my experience, some teachers have felt that their dedication was not sufficiently valued. Many experienced primary teachers living in Mayapur have left after experiencing significant mental pressure. As a result, much of the primary section now consists of relatively new and inexperienced teachers. I sincerely feel that retaining experienced and dedicated teachers would greatly benefit the students and the school.

* Experienced teachers should be encouraged to remain: I feel that experienced and capable teachers bring valuable knowledge and stability to a school. I hope that SMIS can create an environment where experienced teachers feel encouraged, respected, and secure enough to remain and contribute for many years.

* Concerns about communication and behaviour: In my experience, some leaders behaved differently in public compared with private interactions. At times, I felt that teachers and others were spoken about negatively behind their backs. I believe that open, respectful, and transparent communication would create a much healthier environment. 

* A culture where people hesitate to speak: I have observed that some parents, teachers, and even students seem hesitant to raise concerns or ask questions because they worry about possible consequences. Some teachers have already tried to raise concerns through appropriate channels, but unfortunately, from what I have observed, meaningful changes have not followed. I feel that providing a safe and confidential way for teachers and parents to share their experiences could help the school understand these concerns more fully.

Regarding the Principal and Management: I want to make it very clear that I have great respect for the school management and especially for Mother Rachitambara. I have always found her to be a very kind, caring, and compassionate person, particularly towards the students. I believe that she genuinely wants the best for the children and for SMIS. I also appreciate the years of service and dedication that the coordinators have given to the students school. Because they have been serving for many years, it is completely understandable that the management would have developed trust and confidence in them.

At the same time, I feel that some of the experiences taking place at the ground level may not always reach the management. I sincerely believe that Mother Rachitambara and the management may not be aware of everything that has happened behind the scenes. Some teachers have already tried to express their concerns. If the management could confidentially speak with both current and former teachers who have worked closely with the primary coordinators, I believe it could provide a broader and more balanced understanding of the situation.

I am not sharing this to criticise the Principal or the management. On the contrary, I am sharing it because I respect the school and sincerely hope that the management will have an opportunity to hear perspectives that may not always reach them. Our children deserve a safe, nurturing, and compassionate environment where every child is encouraged to learn, regardless of their academic ability. Teachers also deserve to be treated with dignity, respect, and fairness. 

I sincerely hope these concerns will be received with an open heart and that meaningful steps can be taken to make the primary section an even healthier, more supportive, and compassionate environment for students and teachers.
I am grateful for the opportunity I had to work at SMIS, and I sincerely wish the school, its management, teachers, students, and the entire community continued growth and success.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. 

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Śrīla Prabhupāda’s System for Initiations in ISKCON

by Narasiṁha Dāsa

Śrīla Prabhupāda never hesitated to offer spiritual initiation to anyone who agreed to follow his instructions. He initiated persons not born in brāhmaṇa families or families that followed Vedic culture. Śrīla Prabhupāda accepted both men and women from all backgrounds as his initiated disciples and promised he would take them back to Godhead if they followed his instructions. What is especially unusual about the system of initiations Śrīla Prabhupāda arranged is that it requires no physical contact between Śrīla Prabhupāda and his new student. 

In fact, many devotees were initiated by Śrīla Prabhupāda without ever meeting His Divine Grace. Such initiations would have been impractical had Śrīla Prabhupāda not authorized senior disciples to accept and train new students on his behalf.

To expand Lord Caitanya’s transcendental mission, Śrīla Prabhupāda made many arrangements to help sincere souls approach him, inquire from him, and accept him as sad-guru. By making himself available in the form of his books, mūrtis, movement, and representatives, he greatly expanded opportunities for devotees to get the fully potent association of a paramahaṁsa Vaiṣṇava. As the movement expanded, the facilities for innocent persons to take shelter of Śrīla Prabhupāda also expanded.

Near the time of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s departure, the Movement was growing more quickly than ever. Therefore, on July 9th, 1977, he formally established an initiation system that had already been in practice in ISKCON. By his final order, Śrīla Prabhupāda authorized deputies to accept disciples on his behalf, yet without writing to him for confirmation, as they had done before. By this order, Śrīla Prabhupāda authorized representatives to decide who would be accepted for initiation in ISKCON. Śrīla Prabhupāda had already clearly established the standards for being accepted as his initiated disciple; therefore, he trusted the discretion of senior disciples to manage this system on his behalf. (For exact descriptions of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s standards for initiation, see Cc. Ādi 17.265 and Cc. Madhya 24.330, purports.)

Śrīla Prabhupāda never authorized anyone to initiate their own disciples in his movement, and he never gave the GBC authority to select or approve dīkṣā-gurus. What Śrīla Prabhupāda did do was set up a system to continue initiations in ISKCON according to the standards he had already established. His final order on initiations simply confirms the system Śrīla Prabhupāda had already set up in ISKCON. The only adjustment Śrīla Prabhupāda made by his final directive was to eliminate the need for representatives (such as temple presidents) to write to him for approval. Rather, they were instructed to write to the local ṛtvik, the representative of the ācārya. In this way, Śrīla Prabhupāda authorized ṛtviks to accept disciples on his behalf.

The GBC has no authority to discontinue devotional practices or management systems His Divine Grace Śrīla Prabhupāda personally arranged. The GBC has no authority to sanction dīkṣā-gurus. In fact, the entire arrangement of gurus and initiations in ISKCON today is a concoction. Śrīla Prabhupāda never ordained dīkṣā-gurus, nor did he set up any system to empower the GBC to do so. Yet the GBC insists on defending its concocted guru system, which has caused division and chaos in ISKCON for more than 20 years.

Question: Are you saying that the GBC has no authority to regulate who initiates in ISKCON?

Answer: Śrīla Prabhupāda initiates in ISKCON. His words and example inspire us all to join Lord Caitanya’s movement. The GBC has authority to preserve what Śrīla Prabhupāda established, not to create something new. Śrīla Prabhupāda never approved the idea of self-appointed gurus or gurus appointed or approved by an ecclesiastical board. He criticized his Godbrothers several times for trying artificially to create posts of dīkṣā-guru, or ācārya, in the Gauḍīya Maṭha.

Question: Must Śrīla Prabhupāda always remain the initiating guru in ISKCON?
Answer: We must follow the order we have. The entire Hare Kṛṣṇa movement follows Śrīla Prabhupāda. He’s the spiritual master of the universe. What’s wrong with that idea?

Question: How do we know that Śrīla Prabhupāda won’t order someone to become dīkṣā-guru, the initiating spiritual master? Maybe he already has.

Answer: Śrīla Prabhupāda’s arrangement for initiations in ISKCON is clear. We can’t change this arrangement, which is based on Śrīla Prabhupāda and his authority, just because someone claims that Śrīla Prabhupāda told him he could initiate his own disciples. Who is making such claims?

Question: What if a new devotee wants to accept one of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s disciples as the spiritual master rather than trying to develop a direct relationship with Śrīla Prabhupāda? Could he do that?

Answer: Not in ISKCON. Śrīla Prabhupāda made himself fully available in the form of his extensive vāṇī and also as his divine mūrti. Daily attendance at his guru-pūjā and maṅgala-ārati prayers, and careful study of his books, are essential for all ISKCON devotees. Yet devotees may naturally follow senior advanced disciples who inspire them in their devotion to Śrī Guru and Śrī Gaurāṅga. Śrīla Prabhupāda encouraged such practical training and teacher-student relationships. Yet he never authorized any disciple to set himself up as the initiating spiritual master in ISKCON. He never authorized any of his disciples to act as the sad-guru, who must be worshipped like the Supreme Lord.

Question: But sannyāsīs receive worship from others.

Answer: Genuine Vaiṣṇavas are certainly worthy of worship. To be a faithful disciple of Śrīla Prabhupāda is an exalted status. Nonetheless, no regular worship or formal status as dīkṣā-guru was ever authorized by Śrīla Prabhupāda for any of his disciples in ISKCON. Śrīla Prabhupāda wanted faithful disciples, not self-appointed pretenders. If a new devotee hasn’t developed faith in Śrīla Prabhupāda as his guru, he should not accept initiation in ISKCON. Similarly, if a disciple wants to appoint himself as guru, he has no right to use ISKCON for his enterprise.

Question: But doesn’t the law of disciplic succession prohibit jumping over the current guru in favor of the previous ācārya?

Answer: Śrīla Prabhupāda is still the current ācārya. Who can deny this? Do we need a candle to see the full moon? Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura said, “He reasons ill who tells that Vaiṣṇavas die, when thou art living still in sound.” Who is that guru we jump over by accepting Śrīla Prabhupāda? If someone says new devotees need to surrender heart and soul to unauthorized or mixed devotees, such ignorant persons should be jumped over or ignored.

Question: Doesn’t the sincere disciple automatically become the guru and then serve his own disciples by helping them become Kṛṣṇa conscious?
Answer: The disciple follows the order of the ācārya and serves in that way. Śrīla Prabhupāda created many posts for his disciples (such as sannyāsa, GBC, and temple president), but he never created posts of dīkṣā-guru. Nor did he tell the GBC to do so. Śrīla Prabhupāda is both the śikṣā-guru and dīkṣā-guru in ISKCON. Advanced devotees should train new disciples to associate with Śrīla Prabhupāda constantly by hearing from him repeatedly with rapt attention. In this way, everyone gets the same benefit and guarantee in their cultivation of pure devotional service.

Question: But don’t Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books talk often of his disciples becoming dīkṣā-gurus and accepting their own disciples?
Answer: No. Śrīla Prabhupāda asks everyone to become guru by preaching and training others in the philosophy and practices of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. He never asked anyone to begin initiating their own disciples in ISKCON. We find no such instruction. Not all pure devotees initiate disciples and accept worship from other Vaiṣṇavas. It’s not automatic that pure devotees will initiate. A pure devotee accepts the post of spiritual master when the Supreme Lord or His empowered representative orders him. (See Ś.B. 4.8.54, purport.)

Question: Don’t Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books say that everyone should become guru and help others? Isn’t this Lord Caitanya’s mission?

Answer: Lord Caitanya’s mission is to give pure chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa and pure devotional service. Śrīla Prabhupāda warns that no one should be accepted as a pure devotee if he is not properly authorized. Please consider this passage from Caitanya-caritāmṛta: “Vallabha Bhaṭṭa wanted to be initiated by Gadādhara Paṇḍita, but Gadādhara Paṇḍita refused, saying, ‘The work of acting as a spiritual master is not possible for me. I am completely dependent. My Lord is Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. I cannot do anything independently, without His order.’” (Cc. Antya-līlā 7.150–151.) Pure devotees never think they are independent. All work in ISKCON is created by Śrīla Prabhupāda. The post of “ISKCON guru” is a GBC concoction. Unfortunately, due to this concoction, many preachers have been polluted by false ambition.

Question: But Lord Caitanya gave a blanket order for everyone to become guru. Why do you say such gurus can’t initiate their own disciples?
Answer: They may initiate when they get an order to initiate. Śrī Gadādhara Paṇḍita himself said he needed a direct order to initiate! Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu wanted everyone to become Kṛṣṇa conscious and preach. He never said all devotees must initiate their own disciples. In fact, Śrīla Prabhupāda specifically warns, “It is better not to accept any disciples.” Śrīla Prabhupāda said, “A guru can become guru when he’s ordered by his guru. That’s all. Otherwise nobody can become guru.” (Ś.P. Bg. lecture, 1975.)

Question: By preaching and practicing Kṛṣṇa consciousness, isn’t one automatically qualified to become an initiating guru?

Answer: Not necessarily. But qualification is a separate issue. We may have qualifications, but an order is still required. For instance, I may be qualified for the order of sannyāsa, but in ISKCON I will need authorization to be accepted as a sannyāsī. The position of a Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava guru, or ācārya, is equal to that of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. (Cc. Ādi 1.46.) Śrī Gadādhara Paṇḍita said he was unable to initiate without the direct order of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Why speak of others?

Question: How is it possible that Śrīla Prabhupāda can accept disciples after his departure? And how do we know he wants to?

Answer: You think there’s something that’s impossible for Śrīla Prabhupāda? He set up a ṛtvik system for this. He established ISKCON to train devotees to be his steady disciples and preach. It used to be common knowledge among devotees that His Divine Grace was willing to accept the whole world as his disciples. He accepted disciples in Australia while in Europe. He accepted disciples in America while in India. He accepted disciples he had never met. Śrīla Prabhupāda can do this. He is still doing this. It is in our hands to get the credit for helping him do this by agreeing to remain his faithful representatives.

Question: Then we should ask new devotees to surrender heart and soul to someone they can never meet personally or write a letter to.

Answer: Do you think Śrīla Prabhupāda is dead? The issue here is the authority of the Jagat-guru. He never said his physical presence was essential. Many of his so-called “direct” disciples, devotees initiated prior to 1977, never saw him or wrote to him. Śrīla Prabhupāda said following his order is essential. He never stressed his physical presence. His order is directly the will of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Why should we tax our brains to justify defying Śrīla Prabhupāda’s order? The problem is that devotees have not carefully heard from Śrīla Prabhupāda or his genuine representatives. They’ve been misled by the GBC to think Śrīla Prabhupāda is gone and can no longer personally guide or initiate devotees.
Question: According to Vedic tradition, when the guru departs, his disciple becomes the initiating guru and accepts his own disciples. This is the paramparā system. We can’t stop this eternal system.

Answer: There is no such tradition of de facto guru, or guru by automatic inheritance. Yet all Vedic traditions are satisfied if we follow Śrīla Prabhupāda’s formula for expanding the worldwide mission of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. One day there may be millions of devotees qualified to offer dīkṣā. Yet in Śrīla Prabhupāda’s mission, they will follow Śrīla Prabhupāda’s system and train disciples to offer their full devotion and surrender to Śrīla Prabhupāda and his mission rather than to themselves. Such self-realized souls may have many devoted followers. Pure devotees teach by their example how to serve Śrīla Prabhupāda’s mission as humble representatives of the Śaktyāveśa-avatāra, the Jagat-guru. If representatives of Śrīla Prabhupāda train everyone to accept Śrīla Prabhupāda as ācārya, the paramparā system will flourish gloriously. Advanced devotees will happily agree to remain humble representatives of His Divine Grace, the Jagat-guru, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Question: But don’t all genuine spiritual masters accept disciples on behalf of the previous ācāryas? Don’t ISKCON gurus engage their followers in unalloyed service to Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Answer: Yes, to the first question. No, to the second. They are misleading their so-called disciples. These ambitious men could have been loved and honored as the representatives of Śrīla Prabhupāda, but instead, due to false ambition, they created intrigue and suffering for everyone, including themselves. What’s at stake here? Why all the fuss to reject Śrīla Prabhupāda’s final order on initiations? Think about it!

Question: Isn’t dīkṣā just a formality? Isn’t it the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra that actually initiates everyone?

Answer: Dīkṣā is the process by which one can awaken his divya-jñāna and vanquish sinful reactions (Cc. Madhya 15.108). The initiation ceremony is a formality, but that also has been recommended and established by our Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava ācāryas, beginning with Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī. By definition, then, the dīkṣā-guru must be a fully self-realized soul. No one else is qualified to offer true dīkṣā.

Question: If everyone takes śikṣā from Śrīla Prabhupāda, isn’t that enough? Why should we worry about who initiates?

Answer: The śikṣā-guru and dīkṣā-guru must be seen equally. Generally, they are the same person. They are both absolute. Why deny new devotees the assurance of being directly connected with Śrīla Prabhupāda through both dīkṣā and śikṣā? Who will they accept as Śrīla Prabhupāda’s equal? The real point is following the formula Śrīla Prabhupāda personally arranged. Why does the GBC refuse to accept Śrīla Prabhupāda’s arrangement?

Question: The GBC believes that ordaining gurus is the most effective way to recruit and train devotees and thus continue the paramparā.

Answer: The paramparā is continued by disciples who follow the order of the ācārya. ISKCON devotees must follow Śrīla Prabhupāda’s instruction to preach on his behalf. Śrīla Prabhupāda is the Jagad-ācārya. His position is the same as Lord Nityānanda’s or Lord Balarāma’s. No order of His Divine Grace can be changed or ignored. By training everyone to be disciples of Śrīla Prabhupāda, the paramparā will continue gloriously.

Question: I think most ISKCON gurus are representing Śrīla Prabhupāda’s mission.

Answer: Preachers who represent Śrīla Prabhupāda’s mission teach that Śrīla Prabhupāda is the absolute shelter for all ISKCON devotees. They teach devotees to hear from Śrīla Prabhupāda and worship him with full surrender. They don’t encourage devotees to worship mixed devotees or offenders as the initiating spiritual master. Nor do they teach that mixed devotees are in the Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava sampradāya. Rather, they train devotees to accept Śrīla Prabhupāda and surrender to his mission directly. Unless the GBC accepts Śrīla Prabhupāda’s order, they’ll continue to mislead innocent devotees and create chaos.

Question: Are all ISKCON gurus offenders?

Answer: According to Śrīla Prabhupāda, those who attempt to exploit or misdirect the mission of the ācārya due to personal ambition are “severe offenders.” No one can capture the post of Vaiṣṇava ācārya by artificial arrangements. “A Vaiṣṇava ācārya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment.” (Cc. Madhya 1.220, purport.) Śrīla Prabhupāda and Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī both warn that one who covets the post of Vaiṣṇava ācārya or tries to assume the post without authority causes havoc by his imitation. Even Śrī Gadādhara Paṇḍita, the incarnation of devotional energy, says he needs a direct order to initiate. He was not willing to assume the post of Supreme Personality of Servitor Godhead without a direct order from Lord Caitanya. Yet if we ask an ISKCON guru, “When did Śrīla Prabhupāda order you to become the initiating spiritual master?” what will he say?

Question: He might say, “I am a guru because the GBC confirmed my nomination. I don’t claim to be absolute. Only my disciples see me that way because the śāstras say the guru must be worshipped like God. I accept the authority of the GBC as absolute. In that way, I am absolute.”

Answer: This is no reply. They’ll agree to be ṛtviks of a deviated GBC but not of Śrīla Prabhupāda! They misrepresent the most exalted post of Vaiṣṇava guru. By their deviation, they’ve opened the floodgates for sahajiyā cheating and anarchy. Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura warned, “One who thinks he is guru is ‘garu.’” ‘Garu’ means cow. A cow is an animal. We may worship a cow sometimes, but it remains an animal nonetheless.

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SRILA PRABHUPADA Vyasa Puja offering of five prayers glorifying special characteristics of Srila 108 Bhaktisiddanta Saraswati Goswami Thakura. Presented on the commemoration of his appearance, by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, at the Radha-Damodara temple, Vrindavana, India, in 1961.

First Vasistya

1. On this day, O my master, I made a cry of grief; I was not able to tolerate the absence of my guru.
2. On this auspicious day I have come with this offering just to worship you, remembering your lotus feet.
3. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu's judgement is that renunciation is most important. Not only that, but such knowledge must be delivered to every conditioned being.
4. The beginner in devotional service has no ability to solve this dilemma, but you are a maha-bhagavata, you have given us direction.
5. One bewildered by ignorance, what kind of renunciate can he be? He will only be a "phalgu-vairagi"; renouncing externally.
6. Renunciation is actually the result of real spiritual emotion. Without such feeling it is simply known as show-bottle.
7. But there is another "show-bottle" for the purpose of preaching. That is the Lord's sannyasa by which the Mayavadis are defeated.
8. Lord Caitanya's Philosophy is beyond varnasrama; it is Bhagavata dharma, for putting an end to all cheating processes of religion.
9. Performing dry renunciation there can be no real preaching. Therefore "Yukta vairagya" is given the highest essential understanding.
10. "That sannyasa which I have given you" is for preaching in devotion. The faithless sense enjoyers are unable to understand this.

Second Vasistya

11. Generally the sannyasis renounce everything and go and stay in the mountain caves, but you, O master, keep your sannyasis in mansions of marble.
12. To see a sense enjoyer is just like drinking poison, but you, O my master, go far and near, even abroad, to give them your darsana.
13. Mlecchas and Yavanas are forbidden to enter the Hindu temples, but you my Lord, make them chairmen and sit them in the assembly of devotees.
14. Hindus are not allowed to cross the ocean, but you send your devotees overseas to preach.
15. In the cities of Kali-yuga, the instructions of the bona fide spiritual preceptors are forbidden. Still you remain here in any way possible.
16. The devotees want to hide in a secluded place to perform their bhajan. You, however, do not accept this in your judgement.
17. Whenever there is an increase in population, there in that place preaching is to be found.
18. In London you want a student hostel. You explain that it must be first-class.
19. In the land of barbarians a student hostel for preaching Hari-Katha! Who can understand the significance of these things?
20. To resolve all the apparent contradictory statements is not the play of some incompetent fool.
21. If everyone simply sat down together and considered these things, what nice preaching there could be.
22. What is your order also, that everyone, coming together, should merge in your message and preach it to the world.
23. If everyone just initiates then there will only be a contradictory result. As long as it goes on there will be only failure.
24. Now even, my godbrothers, you return here to the order of our master, and together we engage in his puja.
25. But simply a festival of flowers and fruits does not constitute worship. The one who serves the message of the guru really worships him.
26. The service of the message is the real meaning of the Vedas. Don't be proud, brothers, come back to this.
27. Kalidas Nag (a learned man who was defeated by Srila Saraswati Thakura and later became his disciple), that master said in public forum one day.
28. That Kali's mission was to kill the entire world while the essential meaning of Lord Caitanya's message was kept locked up in a cage.
29. O shame! My dear brothers, aren't you embarrassed? In the manner of businessmen you increase your disciples.
30. Our master said to preach. Let the neophytes stay in the temples and ring the bells.

Third Vasistya

31. All these things are not our spiritual master's preaching methods. These are all the things done by the caste Gosvamis.
32. But just take a look at the terrible situation that has arisen. Everyone has become a sense enjoyer and has given up preaching.
33. In the temples they have also begun to lock the doors. Preach this bhagavata dharma, don't hesitate.
34. Within this world is another world, Whose sound is the unequaled penetrating force.
35. The preaching that "mullah (Muslim priest) only goes as far as the mosque and no further" should be put to an end today.
36. From the seas, across the earth, penetrate the universal shell, come together and preach this Krishna consciousness.
37. Then our master's service will be in proper order. Make your promise today. Give up all your politics and diplomacy.
38. Everyone come together on this day and make your valued comment. The five of you get together and decide what should be done.
39. You have become renouncers, brothers, so renounce everything. But if you also renounce the order of the spiritual master, then what kind of renunciation is that?
40. The one who renounces the guru's order (guru tyagi) and the one who tries to enjoy the assets of his spiritual master (guru-bhogi) are two kinds of useless persons. First become a servant of your spiritual master (guru-sevi) and then you will understand things clearly.

Forth Vasistya

41. If there is only one Supreme Lord, then a true sadhu, if his faith increases, he gives up the desire for profit, distinction and adoration in the material world.
42. Your gold, brother, is the father of sense gratification. This meaningful statement was spoken by Srila Prabhupada himself.
43. Give up your wealth for preaching. Sit down together and make some special judgement.
44. The Supreme Lord says that everything is Mine. Don't protest. Just unite and preach.
45. Srila Prabhupada gave this final message himself. Take care to follow that completely in all respects.
46. Otherwise, your sannyasa will be wasted and useless. O saintly ones, be careful; afterwards you will regret.
47. So, what is the difficulty for all of us to come together in this way and why do all these things even have to be said to you?
48. Give up your stubbornness, there is no time. Come all my brothers on this auspicious holy occasion.

Fifth Vasistya

49. When will that day come when there will be a temple established in every house in every corner of the world?
50. When the big court judge will be a Gaudiya Vaisnava with tilak beautifully decorating his forehead.
51. A Vaisnava winning votes will be elected president of the land and preaching will spread everywhere.
52. The demons simply plunder the Lord's wealth. The hapless populace cry, "Hai Hai" in distress.
53. The demons want so many plans just to cheat the people. They sell wheat flour at 32 rupees a mound.
54. Will opening a factory fill a hungry man's belly? Being oppressed by starvation they will eat grass and mango pits.
55. Wearing a two pisa string a man is called a brahmin. Wearing a saffron cloth he has become a sannyasi.
56. The householders beg from sannyasis, and why not? The sannyasis have tens of millions of rupees in the bank.
57. As the days pass, the influence of Kali-yuga increases and the poor are crying in distress.
58. Ten thousand cows are killed daily and the nations expert leaders are all eating untouchable foodstuffs.
59. People of muddy intelligence increase day by day. A man and his wife separate on mere word.
60. Everyone has become a witch by the influence of this age. Everyone is unhappy due to the absence of the mercy of the Vaisnavas.
61. The Vaisnavas are famous as "para dukha dukhi." This fame will increase as the preaching increases.
62. If eternally pure devotional service to Krsna is awakened in everyone, then Kali will flee, screaming of his own accord.
63. "Praninan upakaraya" do work for the benefit of all living beings. This is Mahaprabhu's teachings. This is the storehouse of happiness in this life and the next.
64. So much work has fallen into your hands, so gather together and do it.
65. Vasudeva Datta said to the Lord, paying his obeisances, save all the living beings in the material world.
66. Give all their sins and suffering to me, who am the lowest of all. In this way all the suffering and miseries of the fallen will end.
67. He was the best of the Vaisnavas, para dukha dukhi. He knows that there is not real happiness in gratifying the senses.
68. And what kind of mercy can the non-Vaisnavas give? They simply make offenses by their Daridra Narayana philosophy.
69. The mercy of the Vaisnavas is scientific and authorized, without their mercy this world is simply insurmountable maya.
70. If there is a kingdom of Visnu and Vaisnavas on the surface of the earth, then the world will be happy--so say the great sages and rishis.
71. Why is everyone crying for Rama-rajya? The only way it can be had is if there is a Visnu centered kingdom.
72. Lord Krsna enthroned King Yudhisthira; then the whole world was rich and fortunate due to the qualities of a Vaisnava.
73. The streams, rivers, trees and fields and mountains, were all full of fruits and flowers. The milk laden cows were floating in abundant milk.
74. The birds, beasts and lower creatures were all non-envious. Material life in the Vaisnava kingdom was regulated and perfect.
75. All immersed in bliss, singing the glories of the Hari. The hearts of Vaisnavas dance in ecstasy to see this.
76. The entire world is filled with the use of material objects, without a trace of devotion to the Lord.
77. Still they are searching after peace. Preach Krsna consciousness; fulfill their desires.
78. Today my brothers, get to this task. Save the battered souls by your preaching.
79. Srila Prabhupada, please be merciful today. This time have compassion. You are not a conditioned soul of this material world.
80. Whatever independence we have, let it be cast to the waters. The lowly Abhay offers this presentation today.

Vrndavana, Radha Damodara.
December 1958

Translated from Bengali into English by Daśaratha-suta dasa

Thursday, August 27, 2026

Balarama Purnima / Nepal / Yasodanandan Interview 08 27 26





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17 Devotees Missing in Nepal

PADA: OMG Pilgrims, I was looking at a video of the Nepal rescue teams, and they were finding a foot -- with some of the leg still remaining, an arm, torn up bodies that probably won't be indentified due to all the damages, and of course fully complete but pretty rough looking bodies. This really looks like a very destructive wipe out for a lot of people. Never mind all the ruined roads, bridges, buildings, infrastructure etc.  

Some scientists are blaming climate change for melting the glaciers. I think that is correct, the climate is getting warmer and the glaciers are deteriorating. I feel bad for the devotees who were up there, and lets hope some of them turn up alive and well. But it is not looking promising. 

At the same time the ISKCON Mahavishnu swami temple Nepal has been embroiled in a conflict over sexual exploiters and other issues over there, sometimes it looks like these people attract trouble like a karma magnet. Maybe this will affect them, I am not sure. 

ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com   

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Drutakarma Health.

He has had some sort of a stroke and it has been pretty rough for him. I do not know the current status. I saw him once in Los Angeles and asked him, why is the GBC promoting homosexuals and pedophiles as Krishna's guru successors? He just kept staring -- deer in the headlights -- into the distance, and looking very mentally blanked out. 

He just could not answer, so he said, I have to go somewhere now. Yep, they always have to go somewhere when confronted with a simple question. On the other hand, if we ask any American Joe six pack if homosexuals and pedophiles should be worshiped as God's successors, they know the right answer right away. And that is because the average American Joe six pack has some spiritual moral compass that guides them properly, at least on this issue. 

Then again, when PADA announced that 50% or more of the ISKCON leaders are probably homosexuals, or leaning that way, some woman severely chastised PADA, "it is more like 95%, don't make false propaganda." OK, hee hee, you got me there pardner! ys pd       

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Interview with Yaśodānandana Dāsa (2) — 2026

Interviewer: Oh, okay. All right, that basically covers the third, the fourth, and the fifth questions. Moving on to the sixth question—the main meat of the thing: what happened in 1977 in Vṛndāvana, during the last few months of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s physical presence?
Yaśodānandana Dāsa: Sure. Prabhupāda had gone to Ṛṣikeśa from Bombay, at the foothills of the Himalayas, and on the 17th of May 1977, Prabhupāda came to Vṛndāvana. We got a phone call there that Prabhupāda was coming to Vṛndāvana and that he might die in Vṛndāvana. So we were pretty shocked.
Basically, soon after coming to Vṛndāvana, Śrīla Prabhupāda made a request that all the GBCs should come to Vṛndāvana and meet with Śrīla Prabhupāda, and discuss with him issues concerning the property management of the Society, making a will for Prabhupāda, and things like that.
Personally, I had the opportunity, for almost ten days or two weeks, to massage Prabhupāda at night in mid-May of 1977. At that point I was involved in the gurukula.
What happened was that in 1976, after we went to Chandigarh, I was involved with a few brahmacārīs in my party from South India, and I was helping with Deity worship.
I was chanting the Brahma-saṁhitā near the Deity room, and Prabhupāda’s room was very close to the back of the Deity room. Then somebody came to the Deity room and said:
“Prabhupāda wants you to go see him right now.”
And I thought I was going to get severely chastised. I didn’t know what this was about. I had been chanting Brahma-saṁhitā.
Basically, when I went to Prabhupāda’s room and paid my obeisances, Prabhupāda said:
“Was that you who was chanting Brahma-saṁhitā?”
I said:
“Yes.”
Prabhupāda said:
“Oh, very nice.”
Then he said:
“So then you stay here in Vṛndāvana, train the devotees, and teach the children in the gurukula how to chant like this.”
So by May of 1977, I was involved in the gurukula in Vṛndāvana, teaching the children every day.
Prabhupāda had come there and, basically, he requested all the GBCs to come to Vṛndāvana. So gradually, by the end of May 1977, all the GBCs—or most of the GBCs—came to Vṛndāvana, and they drafted some questions for Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Now, I was not a GBC at the time. I was still Gurukṛpā’s assistant, literally, and basically I was privy to a lot of his confidential files, confidential correspondence with the GBC, GBC notes, GBC minutes, and everything.
Although I was not there when these questions to ask Śrīla Prabhupāda were drafted—I was not in the room when they did that—because I was seeing all the written papers, I had some reasonable idea of what was going on.
So that was the situation.
Interviewer: Yes. What is the story with Śrīla Prabhupāda wanting all of his disciples to come to Vṛndāvana in 1977?
Yaśodānandana Dāsa: That particular story came out of when Prabhupāda went to London, England. In mid-August, toward the end of August, when he came back to Bombay, there was a strike with Indian Airlines.
He could not fly from Bombay to Delhi, so he had to take a train from Bombay to Mathurā.
When Śrīla Prabhupāda came to the Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma Temple, we carried him in a palanquin to his room.
Then what happened was that the late secretary told me that Prabhupāda had told him in Bombay that he wanted all of his disciples to come to Vṛndāvana.
And I said to him:
“What are you going to do?”
I said:
“We’re going to have to tell them to come.”
So somehow or other, that instruction of Śrīla Prabhupāda was suppressed.
Now, again, I’m not pointing a finger at anybody here, but it is a well-known fact that that information was not relayed and given to all the devotees worldwide, to come and see Śrīla Prabhupāda as he had requested.
This is all documented especially well by Ameyātmā in one of his recent books. But I was personally told by the late secretary that Prabhupāda wanted all of his disciples to come to Vṛndāvana.
And Hari-śauri, at that point, maintained an unpublished diary of the activities in September and October. It was typed by Smara Hari’s brother. And this is all related in there—that Prabhupāda requested the devotees to come, and they did not give out the information, for whatever reason.
Interviewer: I see. Okay, next question: any background information on how the controversy over the guru issue started?
Yaśodānandana Dāsa: Well, one of the reasons—because I’ve been asked that question by quite a few people—is: why was this issue not discussed with all the devotees?
First of all, in 1977 there were attempts to discuss that, to get this issue clarified, because you have to remember the May 28, 1977 conversation with Śrīla Prabhupāda about initiations, particularly:
“At that time, when you’re no longer with us…”
This was a private discussion with a few GBCs. This was not available to the devotees for many years—the complete transcript of the conversation.
There were different partial transcripts, incomplete transcripts, and it created a lot of difficulty for many of us who were trying to find out:
“What did Prabhupāda exactly say?”
For example, in August of 1977, I was in Vṛndāvana, outside of Prabhupāda’s room, because every day we would go into Prabhupāda’s room with the gurukula children and do kīrtana.
So one night Bhagavān, Gurukṛpā, and myself were outside of Prabhupāda’s room at the Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma Temple, and we requested the late secretary to be allowed to see Prabhupāda, to get clarification on how the initiation system in ISKCON would go on after his departure.
And Tamāla basically refused, saying:
“Well, Prabhupāda is not feeling well, and I know what he really wants, and this is not a proper time to discuss this.”
Basically, he refused to allow us to see Prabhupāda.
Then later on, during the so-called debate in San Francisco in January of 1994, Jayādvaita and Śāstrī [name uncertain] put out a little paper with their memories of what they felt had happened.
And they made the point that in October of 1977, basically, they went to Tamāla and asked him the same question. They wanted to get some clarification on how the system would work in the ISKCON temples.
Again, the same answer from the late secretary. He would not allow them to do that.
When Gurukṛpā and myself came back from Japan—because what happened in mid-October of 1977 was that we got news from Akṣayānanda and Bhagatji, and a couple of GBCs, that there was a lawsuit from the contractor of the gurukula building, the Bhaktivedanta Swami Gurukula building in Vṛndāvana.
ISKCON was being sued.
Yaśodānandana Dāsa: Prabhupāda called us in and requested us to go to Japan with a Nāma-haṭṭa party and try to collect some money on a quick basis to try to solve this litigation. So we went there, basically.
Then, on the 14th of November, after Prabhupāda departed, we got a phone call:
“You’ve got to come back right away because Prabhupāda just departed.”
So this was a great shock to us, because we were hoping and praying that Prabhupāda would stay much longer. But somehow or other, we were not able to get tickets right away, and we came back on the 1st of December.
When we came back to Vṛndāvana, the late secretary talked to us. It was on top of the gurukula building. Basically, he gave us some mementos from Śrīla Prabhupāda and explained what had happened—the ceremonies after Prabhupāda departed, the whole procession through Vṛndāvana City.
Then Gurukṛpā basically looked at him straight in the eyes and said:
“How is this initiation thing going to work now that Prabhupāda is no longer here?”
Again, the same question, same answer from Tamāla:
“Well, we don’t know yet, and the GBC is going to discuss this.”
He was being very evasive because, according to my personal recollection, after the July 9th letter came out, I was the first devotee who saw the letter. Tamāla showed me the letter, and I asked him:
“What does this mean?”
He said:
“Well, Prabhupāda has nominated some ṛtviks to initiate on his behalf.”
And I said:
“What about after Prabhupāda departs?”
And Tamāla said:
“There’ll be ṛtviks.”
It’s all on tape, of course.
Later on, Tamāla denied this, but the reality is: where are those tapes?
Gaurīdāsa Paṇḍita, a couple of days earlier, before the July 7th conversation, heard Prabhupāda say—and he was recording it on the tape recorder—that:
“Tomorrow I will nominate some ṛtviks who will initiate on my behalf after I depart.”
There’s testimony from Gaurīdāsa Paṇḍita like that.
And personally, I wrote that statement of Tamāla in my diary.
So, of course, Tamāla denies it, but the problem with all of this is: where are these missing tapes?
Because there are a lot of devotees who have studied this issue. Basically, for example, the late secretary kept the diary in London, England. There’s no record of conversations with Śrīla Prabhupāda, but yet in the late secretary’s diary there are references to all kinds of conversations with Prabhupāda.
Why were they not recorded?
We have a conversation on July 7th where nine names are given, and then the letter two days later, on July 9th, where there are eleven names.
Now, I’m not suggesting that the other two names were not bona fide. Prabhupāda signed that letter. It’s fine.
Why is it that there is no recorded conversation where those two names are mentioned?
In Topanga Canyon, California, the late secretary mentioned that he asked Śrīla Prabhupāda about Brahmānanda Swami because he liked Brahmānanda Swami.
Brahmānanda Swami was beloved by many devotees. Personally, I was initiated through his grace. He got me recommended to Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Then supposedly Tamāla replied:
“No, not now. He has to be reformed,”
or made some reference that later on he could be added to the list.
Okay, where’s the recording of that conversation?
In other words, there are a lot of references to different conversations with Śrīla Prabhupāda, and nobody can provide authenticated recordings of these conversations.
If somebody says:
“Well, we couldn’t record everything,”
my question is:
“Why not?”
These were very important topics and conversations. Very important.
Interviewer: Wow. This is mind-blowing to think that we could potentially have maybe a good few hundred hours of really critical bits of information that are missing, you know, and that would just set things right in the movement, because a lot of people are speculating or misleading other devotees.
You sort of answered my ninth question before I asked it, but I want to go on to the tenth question, which is: what was Gurukṛpā’s connection and involvement with Bhakti Vaibhava Purī Mahārāja?
Yaśodānandana Dāsa: I believe in 1991–1992, both Gurukṛpā and [others] went to Bhakti Vaibhava Purī Mahārāja. He was a senior sannyāsī in the Gauḍīya Maṭha.
Prabhupāda had a good relationship with him. In 1972, when Prabhupāda did the groundbreaking ceremony of the Māyāpur temple, he came there to Māyāpur. He was very supportive of Śrīla Prabhupāda.
In 1971, I believe, he invited Śrīla Prabhupāda and many of his disciples to his temple in Viśākhapatnam. He was very favorable to Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda wrote a letter at one point. He said:
“Perhaps you’re the only Godbrother who is not envious of my activities.”
I’m paraphrasing here.
He was a very fixed-up sannyāsī, and Gurukṛpā basically started to consult him.
In 1993, basically, Gurukṛpā, Bhakti Vaibhava Purī Mahārāja, myself, and Haṁsadūta went to Vṛndāvana, and Haṁsadūta issued a challenge. It was a $108,000 challenge, where we agreed—and Gurukṛpā had the checkbook—to pay 108,000 U.S. dollars to anybody who could prove in writing that they had been appointed by Śrīla Prabhupāda as an initiating guru.
Nobody showed up.
So basically, they consulted him, and basically that is the story.
My basic point and personal feeling about this is not just in regard to Purī Mahārāja. It’s many of the other advisors that senior Godbrothers have consulted over the years.
Where is the record, specifically in the last few months of Prabhupāda’s manifested presence? I’m referring to 1977, from April to November 14th.
Where is the authenticated record or evidence where Prabhupāda told us to go consult other advisors besides himself?
I say it doesn’t exist.
Some people have tried to put out some statements:
“Prabhupāda said this at this time.”
“Prabhupāda said that at that time.”
Because in Prabhupāda’s mind, even in Śrīla Prabhupāda’s will, he says there’s no need of any change of management. Things should remain the same—not all these changes that were introduced in 1978.
So this idea that people have gone to various advisors trying to prop up some tradition idea, or so-called “living guru” philosophy—this was not supported by Śrīla Prabhupāda.
For example, in 1969, Śrīla Prabhupāda was exploring cooperation with a group in Calcutta called the Chaitanya Mission. They were exchanging correspondence about how to cooperate for preaching.
And what happened in one letter, Prabhupāda said:
“I see that in your articles you mentioned that the ācārya is entitled to nominate his successor in writing. But we do not find any record of our Guru Mahārāja appointing any ācārya after him.”
So this is basically my point: that in 1977, during the last few months of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s manifested presence with us, there’s no record of Prabhupāda appointing, or selecting, or nominating, or choosing—whatever term you want to use—any dīkṣā gurus or initiating ācāryas after him.
That is basically what was called in Topanga Canyon a myth, a fiction.
They invented this.
That’s why many of them refused to discuss the issue when it was brought up to them.
For example, in March of 1978, I was living [unclear]. Bhagavān, Tamāla, Gurukṛpā, and myself—my lonely self—we were all living together in the same room on top of one of the long-wall buildings at Māyāpur.
So one time Bhagavān, who was very friendly with Gurukṛpā—they were out—and I asked Tamāla...
Yaśodānandana Dāsa: I said:
“You know, I’m in the gurukula there teaching, and there are a lot of parents from different zones of the world. They’re asking the question: ‘How is this initiating guru situation going to work?’ Well, there’s no clarification.”
When I mentioned that to Tamāla, I said:
“Why don’t we take all the important conversations which took place with Śrīla Prabhupāda in 1977 and get them transcribed, and discuss this in front of all the sannyāsīs, temple presidents, and senior devotees? We have forty or fifty brāhmaṇas. We could get this done and get some clarity.”
Tamāla was very surprised by my question, and he said:
“Well, Prabhupāda said if we have any questions, we can go ask Śrīdhara Mahārāja.”
And I said:
“Really?”
He said:
“No, no. You can go ask him some questions.”
So actually, I went there with one Bengali brahmacārī and started to ask him some questions about this.
And he raised his hand. He said:
“No. If they have questions, it’s best that they come and ask. Otherwise, there could be misunderstanding.”
So there were efforts to try to get clarification in 1977 and 1978. But then, by that point in time, there were a lot of people who had different ideas about how this thing should be done.
That’s why there was so much confusion and so much misinterpretation of Prabhupāda’s instructions.
Interviewer: So, you know, I know that back in the early ’80s the Śrīdhara Mahārāja camp was booming, and a lot of devotees were joining the Śrīdhara Mahārāja camp.
And Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Goswami was, from what I understand, propagating the idea that Prabhupāda said we can take guidance from Śrīdhara Mahārāja with regard to the philosophy after his physical departure.
In fact, they point to—I think, is it a letter or a conversation?—that Prabhupāda even wanted Śrīdhara Mahārāja to be the president of the Māyāpur Temple.
Yaśodānandana Dāsa: Yes, there is documentation with regard to that.
But my point is—and I don’t want to offend anybody; it’s not my position to criticize any disciple of His Divine Grace Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura. They’re obviously all special souls—but with regard to ISKCON and Prabhupāda’s Society, Prabhupāda wanted things done a different way.
And it is well known that Prabhupāda did not approve of the ācārya appointment that took place in the Gauḍīya Maṭha in 1937 after the departure of His Divine Grace Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura.
There is a famous letter to Rūpānuga where Śrīla Prabhupāda documents the breakdown of the Gauḍīya Maṭha.
Prabhupāda very specifically mentioned certain individuals who were responsible for disobeying Guru Mahārāja’s order.
There are also different conversations that took place at different times. It’s all available in the Prabhupāda conversation books, where Prabhupāda explained the whole breakdown of the preaching mission of the Gauḍīya Maṭha.
And Prabhupāda did not want the same thing to happen to his mission.
I personally was in Prabhupāda’s room in 1977 when Prabhupāda told two senior men:
“Please do not allow my institution to become like the Gauḍīya Maṭha or the Catholic Church.”
What did they do?
They did the exact same thing.
So Prabhupāda was very concerned about this.
That’s why he wrote in Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Ādi-līlā, Chapter 12, in connection with the sons of Advaita Ācārya, some of whom had deviated from his instructions and teachings. Prabhupāda mentions the whole history of the Gauḍīya Maṭha breakdown.
So this idea that Prabhupāda wanted us to get advice and consultation from different advisors—that is not documented. That is not a fact.
As a matter of fact, the only documentation which I’ve heard was a conversation between Śrīla Prabhupāda and Pradyumna Paṇḍitjī, when Prabhupāda basically told Paṇḍitjī that if you have any technical questions about the translation of the Sanskrit commentaries of the ācāryas on the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, then he could consult Śrīdhara Mahārāja.
But this was not an open floodgate for questioning him on everything about Prabhupāda’s Society, because Prabhupāda, in his mind, had set everything up.
Everything had been set up.
That’s why in Prabhupāda’s will there is mention:
“There is no need of changing the management.”
There is no need for that.
And that system that they introduced was a complete change of everything Prabhupāda had made: change in the Deity worship, change in the guru worship, change in the kīrtana, change in the way we worship the ācāryas—so many unnecessary changes.
So this is a very important point.
Prabhupāda was very careful to document everything carefully about his Society, his directives, his orders, how he wanted everything.
And in this most important issue, he would forget?
No.
He did give documentation. He gave that letter of July 9th, which was signed by him.
And when people say:
“Well, the letter was written by Tamāla. It doesn’t count.”
Well, it was signed by Prabhupāda.
You know, when Prabhupāda created the BBT, that document was drafted by a lawyer in Los Angeles. Prabhupāda signed it.
There are many letters in the Śrīla Prabhupāda letter books containing directives to the Society. Like the “Topmost Urgency” letter in 1974. This was dictated by Prabhupāda’s secretary.
In 1975, Brahmānanda sent a letter that he signed on behalf of Prabhupāda about not going to the Gauḍīya Maṭha, not buying their books, not going to their temples.
Prabhupāda didn’t directly sign it. It was a directive that Prabhupāda dictated to his secretary, and it was accepted as Prabhupāda’s order.
That letter was Prabhupāda’s words, and it was never amended. It was never changed. It was never altered.
My question is: where is the other letter that people claim appointed them?
What is this idea that they were appointed as Prabhupāda’s successors?
Where is this evidence?
A few days after that letter of July 9th was issued, there was a conversation about Haṁsadūta, who had been preaching in Sri Lanka, and Prabhupāda said:
“Continue to become a ṛtvik and act on my charge.”
And the next major conversation that took place was on the 18th of October, when Śrīla Prabhupāda mentions the word “deputy”:
“I’ve deputed my disciples. Some deputies are there.”
“His name was on the list.”
What list is he talking about?
The July 9th letter.
So this is a very important point.
There’s no record in 1977, in the last few months prior to Prabhupāda’s departure—specifically from April 22nd, 1977, until November 14th, 1977—where Prabhupāda ever issued an order for any of these original eleven, or any deputy, to become an initiating guru or dīkṣā-guru.
It doesn’t exist.
As a matter of fact, if you carefully study the Topanga Canyon conversation of December 3rd, 1980, from Topanga Canyon, California, the late secretary admits that there is no evidence for this guru appointment.
He says:
“It’s a myth.”
M-Y-T-H.
And on the basis of false propaganda, they propagated this.
Now, these things can be corrected. There’s always room for correction.
But it seems that the disease has become like an epidemic now. They vote them in. They rubber-stamp them.
It’s like a Mahābhārata factory—a paramahaṁsa assembly line. You rubber-stamp them.
This was not Prabhupāda’s teaching.
Interviewer: Yes. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
I think, you know, just a quick comment on my end. There’s a letter to Rūpānuga, probably in 1974, where Prabhupāda goes into the brief history as to the disintegration of the Gauḍīya Maṭha.
And Rūpānuga had mentioned—I think on Sampradaya Sun—that he sent a letter to Prabhupāda because he had recently attended a Gauḍīya Maṭha festival at Śrīdhara Mahārāja’s maṭha.
So he said to Śrīla Prabhupāda that he did not find Śrīdhara Mahārāja to be very genuine...
Interviewer: So, in response to his letter, Prabhupāda says:
“You are right about the genuineness of Śrīdhara Mahārāja, but in my opinion he’s the best of the lot. At least he follows the regulative principles.”
And then Prabhupāda talks about the breakup of the Gauḍīya Maṭha, and he attributes the cause of that to Śrīdhara Mahārāja and a few other gentlemen having unauthorizedly appointed Ananta Vāsudeva as the sole ācārya to Bhakti [unclear].
Now, Prabhupāda, of course, always showed the Vaiṣṇava etiquette of offering formal respect to his Godbrothers. But I think a lot of devotees have problems with separating, in their minds, that there’s a difference between following Vaiṣṇava etiquette and respecting Prabhupāda’s Godbrothers, and being philosophically chaste to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s teachings and not making unnecessary compromises.
You know, it seems a lot of devotees have problems with that, and they think that just because Prabhupāda said some faint praise of his Godbrothers on certain occasions, that it was some sort of endorsement of the teachings that they were preaching, you know.
So, yes.
Okay, my next question: Bhakti Vaibhava Purī Swami has candidly admitted Śrīla Prabhupāda’s setup for ṛtvik deputies in his physical aftermath. Then, in another interview, he laughed at the concept of ṛtvik post-samādhi. Why such conflicting views from one person?
Yaśodānandana Dāsa: Well, let me just say this.
Again, I don’t want to criticize any disciple of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura.
Prabhupāda set up ISKCON in a very unique way. In the beginning of his mission, he tried to cooperate with various members and leaders of the Gauḍīya Maṭha. Every time, that did not work.
He built his mission. He preached his mission. And he was very careful to give guidance to many of his leaders in private conversations about not repeating the same mistakes of the Gauḍīya Maṭha.
If anybody wants to study the Caitanya-caritāmṛta text, it’s right there—Ādi-līlā, Chapter 8, Text 8, like that.
Why would Prabhupāda introduce an ācārya appointment system that he had criticized repeatedly with regard to the Gauḍīya Maṭha?
That would be a major contradiction.
What Prabhupāda did was basically nominate some senior men to carry on the formalities of initiation.
He did not want to repeat the Gauḍīya Maṭha Part Two mistake.
That was not Śrīla Prabhupāda’s point. He wanted to avoid that.
At the same time, he chose some physically present persons who would carry on the formalities—the chanting on the beads, the choosing of the name, the performance of the fire sacrifice, like that—to carry on the process.
If Prabhupāda wanted to appoint some successor gurus, successor dīkṣā-gurus, or initiating ācāryas, why did he not say so in public—not in secret, but in public?
And at the first meeting that the GBC had in Māyāpur in 1978, if they were so convinced that they had been appointed as ācāryas or dīkṣā-gurus, why didn’t they bring up their so-called “appointment tape” in public and discuss it in front of everybody?
The fact of the matter is, they had their own private, secret discussions, and then they introduced it into the Society immediately after Māyāpur.
It’s not a very complicated issue to understand.
Purī Mahārāja came from the system in the Gauḍīya Maṭha where they have all these different independent maṭhas, where they all appoint their successors.
This was not Prabhupāda’s idea.
Every time Prabhupāda was asked whether or not he had nominated a successor after him, he said:
“No. I have a GBC, a governing body. They will carry on.”
What they did was borrow a Gauḍīya Maṭha deviated, failed program. That’s what they did.
And the whole preaching was disturbed. The mission was disturbed.
There’s a lot more behind this whole story, but basically Purī Mahārāja contradicted himself.
He said in one interview that he asked Prabhupāda:
“Did you appoint one guru?”
Prabhupāda said no.
Prabhupāda replied:
“I’ve not appointed any guru. I’ve appointed some ṛtviks.”
Basically, after Prabhupāda departed, he criticized the whole concept.
Why?
Why criticize Prabhupāda’s arrangement?
It was a perfect arrangement.
Their arrangement resulted in these original eleven—all of them falling down or having major deviations.
How do they explain that?
There was a tape with, I believe, Madhu Paṇḍita.
Incidentally, I very respectfully disagree with my good friend Gurukṛpā when he criticized the Bangalore devotees with Madhu Paṇḍita, saying that they don’t follow śāstra.
Following the order of the ācārya is following śāstra.
That is following śāstra.
That ṛtvik arrangement was Prabhupāda’s arrangement for continuation of initiations in his Society.
He did not want a Gauḍīya Maṭha Part Two program, and it’s exactly what they introduced—these misleaders introduced into Prabhupāda’s Society.
And when we tried to discuss it in 1978, they didn’t want to hear it.
As a matter of fact, one of their leaders from Māyāpur, one of the original eleven, told one gurukula teacher:
“There is nothing to be discussed. We have already decided everything. They”—meaning Prajñāparamitā [name uncertain] and some other devotees—“should just accept. There is nothing to discuss.”
What kind of idea is that?
That’s why every time we tried to bring it up to the late secretary, he refused to discuss it. He refused to bring it out in the open.
The GBC did not bring the issue out in the open in 1978, at the March meeting.
They refused to discuss it.
They forced it through.
As a matter of fact, their first report contains a great insult to Śrīla Prabhupāda.
They said:
“The process for continuing initiations, in consultation with higher authorities…”
What is this nonsense?
Higher authorities?
Did they ever provide evidence that there were higher authorities than Śrīla Prabhupāda in his movement?
Prabhupāda was the supreme authority in his Society.
Who did they consult?
Were they referring to themselves as higher authorities?
Still, they cannot explain.

Tuesday, August 25, 2026

Defending Jayapataka / Poison Issue Bluff / Newcomers Cheated 08 25 26

 




 

PADA: OK so Jayapataka's acting as the karma vacuum cleaner of ISKCON is "being defended." Why would anyone defend the idea that conditioned souls can take karma, when Srila Prabhupada says only an uttama has the brahmana tejyas to burn off sins?  And the poor JPS guy is obviously suffering badly from violating that order? [See health report below.]

@sastra_caksu2



His Holiness Jaya Patākā Svāmī Mahārāja initiated MPD as his disciple certainly not as Śrīla Prabhupāda's disciple, acting as a initiating spiritual master (दीक्षा गुरु) not as ṛtvika. So if he (MPD) thinks that this initiating process was / is unauthorised then why he is still keeping the name given to him during unauthorised process by an unauthorised spiritual master? Why has he not taken the ṛtvika initiation from one of the ṛtvika (any disciple of Śrīla Prabhupāda.)

PADA: The Jayapataka / GBC authorized guru here in Berkeley was Handsadutta, who was having affairs with half dozen ladies and he was drinking Vodka. The GBC held an emergency meeting here, and I burst into the meeting (was not actually invited) and I said -- we need to get rid of this lusty drunken guy posing as an acharya, and the GBC said no -- he has to stay in Vyasa seat. 

I am not sure why Jayapataka's GBC promotes intoxicated womanizers as Krishna's successors, but I already knew that such a person is not God's successor when I was ten years old. Why don't Jayapataka's people know that intoxicated womanizers are not Krishna's successors and acharyas? 

This sastra caksus fellow is all worried about who is authorized and who is not, and we need to defend Jayapataka, a guy who makes homosexuals, pedophiles, drunken womanizers and who know what else into Krishna's acharyas.

What is interesting is that these folks are citing the paper [written by Gaura Govinda Maharaja?] at least evidently he authored such a paper, "what to do when your guru becomes and asura." This is a full on admission the GBC are making asuras into acharyas. These guys are saying when the guru is an asura you can reject him. OK why did the GBC promote this asura as guru in the first place?

So Hansadutta had 200 followers in 1980, all of them rejected Hansadutta, and the temple has been a ghost town ever since 1988. Everyone rejected Hansadutta and left. How can we manage a society when 99% of the followers are leaving and making the temples empty ghost towns? 

And lets not forget that children who were forced to worship illicit sex deviants left ISKCON en masse. That means the GBC did not provide them with a proper guru, or even proper protection from mass molesting. Sorry, it is the job of the GBC to make sure people have a proper guru and it is not the job of the new people or children.  


NOT HEALTHY UPDATE 

*Health update of HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja*
24th August 2026 Bengaluru India

Hare Kṛṣṇa

Dear devotees, disciples, and well-wishers of HH. Jayapatāka Swami Mahārāja,
Please accept our humble obeisances.

All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda_

By the mercy of Śrī Śrī Rādhā Mādhava, Śrī Pañca-tattva, Lord Nṛsiṁhadeva, Śrīla Prabhupāda, and the sincere prayers of devotees around the world, Guru Mahārāja remains medically stable in many important areas. His blood pressure and other hemodynamic parameters have remained stable. His lungs are also in better condition than they were previously, and he continues to remain free from active infection. These are important positives.

At the same time, we want to give devotees a clear picture of the main concern we are facing. It has now been more than two weeks since Guru Mahārāja experienced a sudden reduction in his external consciousness. For a few days last week, we saw encouraging signs of improvement, with more eye opening, recognition, interaction, and responses to commands. However, this improvement has not been consistent.

Particularly over the last two days, Guru Mahārāja has again become more withdrawn. He spends much of the day appearing to be asleep. At times he opens his eyes and responds to commands, while at other times there is very little external response. Sometimes his caretakers sense that he wants to interact externally, but his body does not seem to have the strength or energy to do so.

The hospital doctors and devotee doctors do not yet have a clear explanation for this. Extensive investigations have been performed, and many possible causes have been examined without identifying something that fully explains his present neurological condition. The new neurological treatment is also ongoing and is being tolerated well, but so far we have not seen a clear change in his sensorium that can be attributed to it.

At present, there is a contrast that the medical team is trying to understand: Guru Mahārāja is quite stable in many aspects of his physical condition, while his external consciousness remains significantly withdrawn. Throughout this time, his caretakers continue to chant, read Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta, and speak to Guru Mahārāja about the preaching activities of devotees around the world. Whether he responds externally or remains withdrawn, the Holy Names and the words of Śrīla Prabhupāda continue to surround him. We also notice that during certain periods of the day, Guru Mahārāja chants using his clicker.

We humbly request all devotees, disciples, and well-wishers to continue offering their heartfelt prayers to Śrī Śrī Rādhā Mādhava and Lord Nṛsiṁhadeva that Guru Mahārāja may remain stable and free from infection, regain his external consciousness and strength, and continue progressing toward recovery.
On behalf of the JPS Health Team & JPS Seva Committee,

Mahā Varāhā Dāsa

*JSSS International is hosting a daily Prayer Program*

PADA: Doctors were also baffled when Swarupa Damodar had suddenly developed half of his body being partially paralyzed. He was having people touch his feet and he was taking karma etc. Mundane doctors have no idea how that affects a person. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

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MORE GBC BLUFF ON THE POISON ISSUE

NITYANANDA DASA

Well, well... after 29 years of institutional denials that there is ANY morsel of valid evidence that Srila Prabhupada MIGHT have been maliciously poisoned, the GBC, with a lot of counsel and coaxing, finally hired their own chosen "expert" Dr. Lemos to review the Truth Labs 2024 comprehensive report on this matter. And thus they have made an even deeper commitment to their five official cover-ups on the darkest episode in ISKCON history.

The full, unvarnished, unbiased, and honest dossier of evidence that Srila Prabhupada was in fact homicidally, lethally poisoned in 1976-77 is compiled in a free PDF book available at:

Please feel free to download it and compare it to the deplorable and pathetic latest GBC attempt to quash the truth. Its flaws:

1. Dr. Lemos was hired only to review the 1998-2005 hair tests done by Dr. Morris at MURR, and he ignores ALL the other evidence, because the GBC never told him about it. This "expert" does not even know what the evidence is...

2. Dr. Lemos dismisses MURR's test results by giving his opinion, that there may be problems with chain of custody, testing methods,
and many other nitpicking tactics which create doubts but do not prove anything.

3. Noted is that the GBC has never sponsored any forensic tests themselves, resorting only to denials, from themselves and now from Dr. Lemos, who uses technical scientific language to fool the people.

4. However, the MURR tests were set up by the GBC themselves in 1999, but they invited others to complete the tests by paying for them ($6000). When Prabhupada Truth Commission did so, and the results revealed massive heavy metals poisoning over at least 10 months in 1977, the GBC was shocked and began their criticisms and denials.

Anyway, see the GBC's grand Dr. Lemos denial here:

One can see the comprehensive Truth Labs forensic report here:

This is the heart of Kali Yuga where truth is under constant assault. By sifting through websites for the "scientific expert" needed to counteract anything, the GBC found Dr. Lemos, whose specialty is accepting payments to "scientifically" debunk any other scientific findings. Corruption is not just in governments, courts, institutions, the medical industry.... it is there in the scientific community as well.
Truth Labs will make its response soon, from what I understand...

The struggle for truth continues... please look at this issue more closely than just buying into the lying, deviated GBC hired denials.
Hare Krishna. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!


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NEWCOMERS ARE BEING CHEATED

KKD 

Why do I feel sorry for newcomers who joined ISKCON? Sorry, I didn’t answer all your questions in a previous post on this. Here’s my response:

You see, if you were involved in management and ISKCON Resolve as I was, you observe things best kept hidden from general ‘rank and file’ devotees, let alone newcomers.

When we know what’s going on behind the scenes that are all over social media and still invite unwitting newcomers to join, that is misleading, unfair and dishonest, I think. It’s why I recommend following the teachings at home, in your own life, free from clerical control.

Sunday, August 23, 2026

Dr. Keshav Anand Das "why are ISKCON people not advancing"? 08 23 26


Why are worshipers of Bhakti Vikas swami's (BVKS) homosexual, pedophile. drunks, drug addicts, and illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara -- not making advancement after 30 years? It seems the answer is found in the question itself?  

PADA: This Keshav Anand Das person is a disciple of Bhakti Vikas swami, biggest advocate for the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project. And BVKS is the sannyasa disciple of Jayapataka, the founder father of Mayapur's Auschwitz for kids project. OK BVKS gurus are falling down left and right, then we wonder why the followers are losing enthusiasm -- despite following for 30 years? 

Or worse, a number of the followers are degrading and becoming sexual predators, pot smokers and etc. We had a number of ex-followers of Hansadutta, Swarupa Damodar, Gaura Govinda Maharaja and others here -- falling into pot smoking and who knows what in Berkeley. 

Some of the ex-kids from Bhagavan's program became prolific pot heads and so forth. I went to pick up some of my books at a San Francisco house rented by a group of ex-devotees, and they were smoking pot outside the house when I arrived. 

This begs the question: Following what? Following a homosexual and pedophile guru lineage will generally not cause people to advance, and there is a great risk they will degrade, and often as not -- they do degrade. Hence, all the fallen and criminal activity going on left and right in and around ISKCON. 


BHAKTI VIKAS'S KARMA VACUUM CLEANER

DID We FORGET TO MENTION? This is Bhakti Vikas Swami's karma vacuum cleaner / sannyasa guru / sum total of the demigods / assistant of the gopis /  Jayapataka swami. Bhakti Vikas swami is encouraging these JPS conditioned souls to take karma WITHOUT ANY AUTHORITY, when they self evidently do not have the uttama adhikary's brahmana tejyas to absorb or burn off sins. 

OK BVKS is direct or indirect helping in causing these people to fall down, get sick, and die prematurely from encouraging them in taking karma. Someone told PADA "BVKS is killing this JPS by telling him to load himself up with karma." 

Bhakti Vikas swami is Dr. Keshav Anand Das's advisor and guru? And BVKS is the person who told us we need to follow Jayapataka, and keep people like intoxicated womanizer Jayatirtha in the Vyasa seat. Worship of intoxicated womanizers will cause people to degrade and not advance. 

Did we forget to mention JUST IMMEDIATELY after Jayatirtha kicked me out -- a child predator gang started to take over Croome Court, using chloroform on children in order to molest them? And this went on for 3 years? Exactly what I warned would happen by worship of predators. We will degrade by worship of the degraded, that is common sense and also a Vedic principle. 

AD: Tthe person, who shared the video initially says, that bvks is taking advice from this man in the video!

PADA: Sorry. Dr. Keshav Anand Das’s guru is H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Swami. All authoritative sources consistently state that he is a direct disciple of Bhakti Vikasa Swami. And BVKS is a big supporter of people like Jayapataka etc., the people we had to sue for $3M and later $400M for mass child mistreatment. And BVKS was complaining about our lawsuits. But BVKS has no authority to challenge our opposition to fallen acharyas from square one. It is no wonder people cannot advance by worship of their program's fallen acharyas. Worship of the fallen will keep a follower ALSO in a fallen state, that is common sense.

AD: Yeah, that was clarified - he is a disciple of bvks, but simply the guy who posted the video pointed out, that a guru is adviced by his disciple ... not vice versa ... and additionally he mentioned, that many people listen to the man from the video.

PADA: Correct, these people always fail to mention that the gurus BVKS are promoting are falling left and right, and that is causing people not to advance. Hansadutta had maybe 200 disciples here in his 1980 hey day, but it is hard -- almost impossible -- to find even one or two of them today, they all lost enthusiasm. The temple is now a ghost town. And a number of the ex-Hansadutta's hold a grudge against ISKCON and will never return. At least some of them started eating hamburgers again. Why is it a mystery how they lose enthusiasm after finding out they are worshiping a lusty drunken dog as their acharya?

Worship of fallen people is making this happen. And BVKS is still promoting worship of the fallen guru parampara, which his pal Jayadvaita says -- has amorous pastimes with men, women and probably -- children. No one is going to be expected to advance by worship of such fallen souls, that is not the Vedic process, or even Christian Church process etc. Worship of the failing makes the worshipers fail. But they do not seem to understand how that is a problem. 

But the problem is ALSO not new, as Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Goswami Maharaja explains herein:

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Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada:

"Any administrative structure within a religious organization is the end of the living manifestation of spirituality.

"The prostitute PUTANA is a witch who kills small children. As soon as a baby is born, it falls into the hands of false religious teachers. Such gurus successfully thwart the efforts of genuine spiritual teachers because in this world materialists are reluctant to entrust their children to the care of a genuine guru. 

"All officially existing religious organizations encourage this tendency in people. They only produce hypocritical prostitutes who, in "cooperation" with materialistic parents, condemn the child to spiritual death from the first days of its life. None of the methods devised by men can prevent prostitutes from ruling the masses. This is because the materialistic view of life prevails throughout the world. 

"A religious organization, enjoying the best conditions of existence in this contemptible world, invariably hides the same materialism behind the mask of piety. Throughout history, these organizations have repeatedly demonstrated to the world that they are ardent supporters of the grossest forms of materialism, and even the worst of the "irreligious" villains want nothing to do with them. 

"However, we make this remark not to criticize the official clergy. The original intentions of many religious organizations are not always condemnable. And yet, no stable structure has yet succeeded in truly enlightening people. In order for the teachers of the eternal religion to reveal to people the real meaning of the sacred scriptures, the Supreme Lord Sri Krishna Caitanya has ordered them to be completely free from all conditioning. 

"This does not mean, however, that everyone who has renounced conditioning is fit to teach others the principles of religion. Of course, some system or organization is needed for people to rethink their worldly values. But if this system is mechanical and lifeless, then even this goal is inappropriate. 

"A true spiritual teacher will never submit to or support a lifeless organization. And in his hands, no religious structure will lose its vitality or stagnate. Blind adherence to dead dogmas and mechanical participation in various ceremonies will not help a person to feel the true spirit of divine teachings and rituals. Simply put, any administrative structure within a religious organization actually serves only one purpose: to put an end to the living manifestation of spirituality. 

"Large and influential religious organizations are the most serious obstacle to a person’s spiritual development, because no other trick can block this path. Such organizations express the desire of the crowd to exploit a spiritual movement for their own selfish purposes and also put an end to the absolute and unconditional leadership of a true spiritual teacher. 

"People in this world understand only prohibitions and restrictions, but they have no idea of ​​the real, unprohibited eternal life. They also do not know that there is no earthly way for anyone to achieve this eternal life on a worldly level. Therefore, those who long to improve the material situation of their community and to increase the benefits that come from any true spiritual movement, if it is recognized in the world, are deeply mistaken. 

"It is precisely those who dream of the worldly success of their community that give rise to false religious teachers, representatives of the pernicious Putani tribe, whose main occupation is to suppress all spiritual aspirations in people, rebuking them as soon as someone doubts something. However, the true desire for spiritual life is immune even to the attacks of the Putani. Their power extends only to atheists. The Putani are busy with a thankless but very useful task, which they perform essentially for the benefit of their voluntary victims. 

"As soon as spiritual aspirations really manifest themselves in the consciousness of an awakened soul, the Putanas, upon meeting the newly born Krishna, become completely silent. He who comes to kill loses his own life. This is a fitting retribution of the Putanas for the ungrateful service which they unconsciously render to man in his spiritual quest: they destroy all duplicity, thus revealing their own claim. 

"But the Putanas are unwilling to accept such payment, because it manifests itself only in the destruction of their false personality. And King Kamsa also does not wish to lose his most trusted associates and servants. The tribe of false religious teachers noticeably falls silent when the Absolute Truth appears. The true teacher who bestows the Absolute Truth on the world symbolizes the appearance of Krishna, and such a guru uncompromisingly opposes the false teachers of religion." 



THIS IS A RESPONSE TO THE RECENT GURUKRIPA VIDEO