LOVING KRISHNA IS ALSO LOVING OURSELF
IT IS THE END!
Chandrasekhar Cyril Wohrer. Now he is preaching from the Christian's pulpit! Or what? Lots of GBC folks have this interfaith idea: We should all be like Christians and worship a pure devotee! Yipee!
Wait what! And as soon as the GBC finds out we are worshiping a pure devotee -- we are the bogus concocting ritviks "following bogus Christianity"? Which means we are not going to worship the GBC's homosexuals and pedophiles messiahs project!
Oh oh pilgrims, then we will be banned, beat, sued and -- killed. Sorry dude, we are not allowed to worship a pure devotee and that is why the temples are empty ghost towns. A person who promotes a homosexual and pedophile messiah's program will not attract Western people, even if he wears pants! Where does ISKCON find these guys? Hee hee ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
These past few days we have had a direct conversation with the manager of vedabase.io.
We ask you something simple: to serve Srīla Prabhupāda's books as they were originally published. We offer you the data — a comprehensive report with each documented change, verse by verse. Over 5,000 changes in the Gītā, 3,100 more in the Bhāgavatam and Caitanya-caritām Másta. We even offer technical assistance to implement it.
The response:
1. "I have family and they can sue me." »
2. "I can be shut down at any moment." »
3. "I'm busy with another project (Vidyabase). »
Regarding point 2, something needs to be clarified: he is the owner of the domain vedabase.io. He who controls the domain, controls the site. No one can "lock it down" if he decides to serve the original editions. It's your decision, not an external imposition.
Regarding point 3: Vidyabase has been in development for years. "I'm busy getting it done" is not a reason, it's an excuse.
What we worry about is not a personal fight. What worries us is that thousands of devotees read every day on vedabase.io believing that they are reading Prabhupāda’s original words — and they are not. They are reading a posthumously edited version without author's approval.
We decided not to wait. That’s why vedabase.cc exists — the original books, verified word-for-word with the first print editions. Let each devotee decide what he wants to read. But at least he does it knowing the difference.
vedabase.cc — Books as Srīla Prabhupāda wrote them.
In the picture, Prahlad Nrsimha poised for the torrential criticism coming upon him for being complicit in serving fake Srila Prabhupada books, just for personal comfort.
PADA: Pratyatosa was one of the original engineers of original book sites and other sites have essentially copied his. He made the Causlessmercy site some time ago, and others have subsequently emerged. I think he deserves a lot of credit for helping get this process moving along.
PADA: Pratyatosa was one of the original engineers of original book sites and other sites have essentially copied his. He made the Causlessmercy site some time ago, and others have subsequently emerged. I think he deserves a lot of credit for helping get this process moving along.
He also was the person who originally contacted Windle Turley to get some justice for the abused gurukulis, and while some complained the victims only got smaller settlements, some victims told me the little settlement they got saved their lives because no one else was ever going to give them a penny. Anway, the original books idea is taking off, very good!
ys pd
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ISKCON'S FUTURE AND LEGACY IS: HINDUS!
PADA: ISKCON is North America is gradually placing mainly Hindus on the official -- legally registered -- ISKCON charity managerial board. And according to my various sources, some of these Hindu managers -- who are now legal representatives of ISKCON -- eat meat and worship Sai Baba, Vivekananda and so on and so forth. And that is the trend and tendency perhaps world wide at this stage. I do not honestly think the GBC wants successors who are following the original aim and object of ISKCON.
They seem to want people who will give donations that they can siphon off for their personal welfare. At one temple here, the 7 Hindu co-legal managers voted to stop the one Caucasian GBC guy from having access to the finances, accounts and bookeeping, because they realized too much money was going missing. Now he is not able to over-ride the other 7, so they have effectively taken control of the temple.
I think that is the future they are steering towards generally. And once the one Western GBC guy is gone, he will be replaced by another Hindu, as the most likely outcome. Meanwhile the younger Western devotees boycott ISKCON because they have no place in the current Hindu-ized process. Nor is there any atempt to outreach to them, nor is any likely. ys pd
PADA: Yes prabhu it is true. Most of the people visiting ISKCON for Sunday feasts are the Hindu congregation members in N. America. Many or most of them eat meat, and they go to Hindu meat serving restaurants.
The one vegetarian Hindu restaurant in the city just started serving meat "by popular demand." A lot of them also have photos of Sai Baba, Rama Krishna, Vivekananda etc. in their homes. I know a lot of these Hindus myself.
The Jayapataka Bengalis poojaris would leave the temple when they got their green cards to work at the Muslim restaurant down the street. Of course, Trump has messed up their Visas so now the temple has a cook and poojari shortage. I am not sure why Ekadasi restrictions matters since ISKCON congregations many times eat meat, whether they eat certains things on Ekadasi does not seem to have any relevance.
There was four Bengali poojaris who would all go to the doughnut shop after mangala arotike to chat with the young waitresses. Not sure what their standards are, since they love doughnuts and coffee, and talking to young ladies. ys pd
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PADA: Someone told me they would unplug his life support tonight. Agnideva was friendly to me, and friends with all the camps. And I think he just wanted to do kirtan and avoid the guru issues etc.
Aindra was criticized for doing the same type thing, he was being challenged for chanting in the GBC temples -- and that allegedly helps the GBC. Anyway it is what it is, and he is on his way to his next destination. I wish him well and God speed. ys pd
LATEST UPDATE RE
HH AGNIDEVA PRABHU BY Anuradha Dasi
Agnidev Prabhu is currently at a stroke center in Salt Lake City. The procedure that was attempted to dissolve the clot was unfortunately not successful. At this time, he remains unresponsive and is on a ventilator. The prognosis is uncertain, and we are told it could be a matter of hours or days. Krishna Presthaya and all of Agnidev Prabhu’s children are by his side. Devotees from around the world are holding him in their hearts and offering prayers.
Radhanath Swami has been chanting for him live over FaceTime. We will share as much information as we can as it becomes available. We humbly ask everyone to please continue your prayers and good wishes for Agnidev Prabhu and his family during this time. If you need any further information, you are welcome to message privately.
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GIRIRAJA WAS SENILE AND THEN NOT?
The more the truth is exposed, the more difficult it is for the kids to pretend his "holiness". And to the blind followers who used to wear sunglasses to avoid seeing the truth, now have to practically hide their heads in shame (if they had any shame). At this point no matter what happens it looks terrible for Giriraja and for ISKCON.
For example, what was it about Giriraj Swami's "sickness"?
Was he healed miraculously or already doing the same thing but without exposing himself to the world? Where is the "diagnosis" that the "disciples" talked about so much?
We understand it. After decades of presenting your teacher as pure, it must be hard to finally realize that you have worshiped a conditioned soul and misplaced person, who pretends to be what he is not. And when he is unveiled, all that is left is a greedy, lusty, dirty old man -- filled with animal lust and unfulfilled material desires. He said he always wanted to get married, why didn't he just be honest and get married already? He wanted to cheat people, and they send him back to India "as good as new" to continue the cheating.







