Sunday, July 13, 2025

Science Proves Soul / David Paulig vs Mathura Pati / Soulful Bhajan 07 13 25


From: David Paulig <david.paulig@outlook.de>
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2025 5:12:56 PM

To: Mathias Jabczynski <srikrischna108@freenet.de>; 

Subject: Re: Petition to Stop spreading offenses on the lotus feet of the pure devotee (re books of IHKM Germany)
 
Mathura-Pati so but why you don't put the original book for Print; Srila Prabhupada would have Approved it Just like he Approved the other German books! Thats for Sure! You never PRINTED THE ORIGINAL BOOK AS IT IS obviously. He doesn't tell anywhere to put the killing of Jesus cross inside his books, or otherwise show me!! Neither he says put a big German Swastika inside his books. 

Neither I am your GBC or anyone's Rtvik group follower in Germany! Nor I claimed... Not either I want; I am brahmacari, not a grhasta who is qualified to be GBC! Actually only Advaitacarya Dasa can do according to Prabhupada disciples Like Govinda Dasi. But First WE want to See good example ... Brahmins can be Leader.

I have the new Vedabase and Vanibase and the biggest Prabhupada library and Archive at my place but you can use also Just Vedabase, there are Srila Prabhupada original books in the Special section just marked it for research.

Here is more of the quote now the Jews included:

Amogha: He's asking you when did this civilization actually accept the teachings of Christ?

Carol: When have they? Not overall at all, only in small pockets. Never overall.

Prabhupada: Then why you are claiming that you are Christian? Just like you are having cross. That is the sign that you killed Christ. The cross is the killing symbol of Christ.

Carol: This is the resurrection symbol.

Prabhupada: Maybe. (laughter)

Carol: But it's not only Christian symbol...

Prabhupada: But many, many priestly order, they carry the cross. Cross is the sign when Lord Jesus Christ was killed. Is it not?

Carol: It is, but that symbol is used in a lot of ways.

Prabhupada: That means how you killed Lord Jesus Christ. That is the sign. That reminds you that you killed. You accuse the Jewish people "They killed," but you are also killing. Although you are claiming Christian. Therefore I want to know—you are a learned scholar—when you abided by the order of Lord Jesus 

Christ? That is my question. When?

Amogha: When did you abide by the orders of Jesus Christ?

Carol: When did I?

Ref. Perth Conversation of 1975 May 9th

Again Srila Prabhupada speaks about the Cross simply so not even a crucifix named or anything anywhere stated obviously ... but that the Christians following the Jews in killing Jesus Christ! He is citing here the Cross as the prominent killing example in that very Conversation. Christians brag basically about their spiritual masters died but he didn't! 

Satsvarupa: I've heard a story from that, that he was in his room and so many people wanted to see him, and he opened one door and had another door open, and the whole group was able to come in like a darçana and go out. Citsukhananda told me.

Syamasundara: And I remember we went up to a little town called Cuernavaca above Mexico City, and Prabhupada gave a talk in the town plaza, and while he was resting for that thing was when he talked about Christ. And he called me in, and he had gone in to sleep, and an hour or so later he called me in and told me to remove that statue of Christ dying on the cross from his room. He couldn't sleep with that.

He said that this is an example of devotees killing their spiritual master, and he couldn't tolerate; he couldn't sleep. He was very disturbed.

Satsvarupa: It was in his room, the crucifix?

Syamasundara: Yeah, on the wall. In Mexico it's everywhere.

Satsvarupa: He saw it as…

Syamasundara: As devotees killing their spiritual master. You're trained in killing your spiritual master, and then they like to brag about it or post it, so that they can say…

Satsvarupa: He's dead.

Syamasundara: …that "God is dead; now I can sin." He talked about some plots then that went on in his day about his spiritual master and his disciples. I don't remember the facts.

Satsvarupa: There was some assassination plot against Bhaktisiddhänta. 

Syamasundara: But he was very disturbed by that-the symbol of Christ on the cross. [break]

Ref. Vanibase: Lilamrta Interviews (First Generation, late Seventies) Shymasundara 69 pages

Do you want to remember that they killed your spiritual master just like the Christians!? We don't wear cross as Srila Prabhupada never told us to do nor do we want to meditate on it! It is very disturbing that they gave poison to Srila Prabhupada ... then you print also poison T-shirts but where is the love for our dear Srila Prabhupada? Here it is again much more CLEAR just see:

“When I think of Lord Jesus on the cross…” He shakes his head. “No. That is not a symbol for devotees. Devotees do not want to concentrate on that, on their master’s suffering. But actually the body of Christ was spiritual. He felt nothing therefore. Like Krishna and Bhisma on the battlefield. When Bhisma’s arrows struck the Lord’s body, they were feeling like kisses. The Lord’s body is never material. It is a great offense to think like that. There is one Aquarian Gospel saying that Christ went to India, I believe.

Ref. Vanibase: Hare Krishna Explosion by Hayagriva Dasa

In this last memory we see clearly Srila Prabhupada made no distinction between crucifix or cross, he could have mentioned her crucifix as well but choose to make it universal as this cross is a universal jewish killing cross used by any so called Christian! Srila Prabhupada says far above that jews killed Christ but christians are still doing it! Or not!?

Again ...

“When I think of Lord Jesus on the cross…” He shakes his head. “No. That is not a symbol for devotees. Devotees do not want to concentrate on that, on their master’s suffering. 

(Quote from Hayagriva's book see above)

Your Bhakta D always  your servant

Haribol! Alle Ehre Sei Srila Prabhupada!


PADA: OK I have had problems with both these guys. David Paulig took the side of the IRM -- and Krishna Kant Desai -- the master mind of the 1997 "better plan for me personally and PADA news" -- that PADA must now work under the IRM's scheme -- to be under the supervision of Jayapataka and take a vacation in the Caribbean -- and quit writing. 

And shut the heck up! And drop the molesting issue, book changes and poison issues etc. OK swell, and what are my chances of ever returning alive from my Jayapataka Caribbean vacation? Or even -- the left over shark bitten pieces of me being sent back to the USA? How about zip, nada, none. 

Are these people spraying TCP onto their hash pipes? No, it is not a good idea for PADA to work under the supervision of the GBC's gurus and / or promoters of the homosexual and pedophile messiah's program. And then become shark bait in the Caribbean ocean! That means Krishna Kanta has been meeting with Jayapataka and plotting to make me their shark bait. And these guys like David have no clue why I opposed all this, because he is a sentimental guy who thinks the GBC guys are going to treat me to a nice Carribean vacation. This is called illusion.

Same basic problem with Mathura Pati, he also keeps citing the IRM as well. A good idea for me is -- to work under the authority of Jayapataka. Not a good idea for PADA to save children from the Jayapataka program that starves, beats and rapes children. And worse -- causes some of the victims to commit suicide. Why is that idiot PADA saving children and making the pedophile messiah's project lose money for our parampara guru's new Town car and Luis Vuitton lawyers? Forsooth!

It is always about the money ain't it? Even Dayalu Nita's violence threatening thug Prahlad was crying buckets of tears, oh no, how will my favorite homosexual and pedophile messiah's club gurus afford a new guru's town car -- when PADA is having them sued? Of course Prahlad is not crying that PADA has to drive an old Toyota Tercel, because "it is my karma." Hee hee. Yeah, as many folks commented, these people worship golden shekles and not God or God's devotees.  

Yep, as soon as these Prahlad ilk guys sees a nice poofer dressed in a tutu, they think Jesus has been re-incarnated and he needs a new Mercedes. Only the pedo meisters club members deserve nice vehicles and not us lowly peons! Hee hee. It is amazing that these people, like IRM chief and Prahlad etc., are stomping their jack boots in time with the worshipers of pedophiles as messiahs project, then they make pretend they have no idea why there is a giant pile of children victims under their jack boots. 

Everyone else knows why there is a pile of child victims under their boots, except for -- themselves. My lawyer friend says it is the same reason the owners of cigarette factories cannot understand what causes lung cancer. 

But David is like a broken clock, he is right some of the time. Yeah, no Jesus on the cross and / or WW II swastikas in the books of Srila Prabhupada! Right! I think he gets it right on that issue, but is wrong however, when Srila Prabhupada says the Christians are still killing Jesus. That does not refer to killing Jesus, he is talking about their still killing cows for their beef steaks. David seems to confuse these two issues.

But yeah, do not add things to the books that are not authorized. Mathura Pati and me got off on the wrong foot when he and Mukunda were promoting their third reich shall rise again anti-Zionist bankers program. Not something we should promote in public.

And then they will have people like PADA hunted worse than the GBC. Neine danke! Sorry, the real spiritual leader of society is not on the bodily platform and these guys still are. Did I forget to mention both Mukunda UK and Mathura Pati guys, and their clones like HKC Jaipur's Prahlad, have been promoting Saint Radhanath's cheer leaders like Bhakta dasa and Hari Sauri, because they evidently think PADA is being an offender for not helping them in promoting their program of homosexuals and pedophiles in samadhi in the dham. 

Even the karmi media people asked me "what exactly is pedophile samadhi"? I dunno, you need to ask them. Anyway David is right, sort of, and he deserves more credit than the rest of the lot. One the other hand, we might ask ourselves why the un-Godly departure of Jesus and the poison complaint of Srila Prabhupada are similar? People have told me I am making both of them the same identical issue, perhaps I am.

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PADA: Wow, these guys had 27,000 views in May, and a lot more since. I think the idea that Srila Prabhupada is the acharya is spreading. Yep, the idea that Srila Prabhupada is the acharya is -- what we said -- in 1978. 

And people at the time thought -- that PADA idea is totally bonkers, nuts, crazy town, the bogus Christian idea, apa-siddhanta, mayavada etc. There is no living person here! We need to worship the living: dope head, debauchee, drunk, womanizer, porno swami, and don't forget -- the living pedophile -- instead! That will fix everything in no time! 

OK maybe not. And over time, it looks like our idea is gradually being the accepted version. Hey guess what, maybe we shoulda / oughta / coulda / woulda been better off to worship the pure devotee, and not our doped up, drunken fool, machine gun swami, lusty dogs! And our pony and cart clown show. Oh yeah, maybe worship of the pure devotee is the better option. 

Wow! And it only took 50 years for people to start to figure this out. Better late than never. We also noted that other ritvik videos are getting 10, 20, 30, 40 thousand views as well. Overall, there are easily hundreds of thousands of folks looking at the ritvik issue, and they are taking our side. ys pd   


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