SD: I just wish to understand since you “ who are they to tell you..” the same cane be said about you but you say the “who am I” is not important but you Tim have made it important as throughout the decades you waged an unceasing war on them.
PD: Well that is why we had to have them sued for $400,000,000. They said that I was a bogus person and should not be listened to, so that caused thousands of children to be mistreated. It is our duty to go to war with regimes that mass mistreat children.
So does more humble than a blade of grass not apply to you!
PD: Yes, I should be humble and sit back and allow women, children, brahmanas and others to be mistreated without protest.
Just for clarification and understanding, you understand! I have never seen any authorisation from Prabhupada to call him Prabhupada and neither did he insist you call him so.
PD: Prabhupada said they are envious of me being called Prabhupada. And he told us that more than once. My neighbor's little girls call their uncle "Bappy." It is not my job to go over there and lecture those little girls about what they should or should not call their uncle. And I would look foolish to try to advise them, it is their issue and not mine. But Prabhupada is our Prabhupada since he tried to save my soul and his God brothers didn't.
We are well aware of him being called “Swami Maharaj” by his godbrothers and when he was called “Swami” by early disciples and when it changed to “Prabhupada” but he did not confer that title on himself.
PD: When Krishna was here, He was not walking around conferring titles on Himself all day long. It was self evident who He was to His devotees, and not self evident to the envious. A pure devotee is also a "Prabhupada," and that is the title he deserves, bare minimum.
Lord Chaitanya also did not confer titles on Himself, and it is not our siddhanta that pure devotees or Krishna have to confer titles on themselves, the devotees should recognize them and give them these titles. The gopis also do not confer titles on themselves, and so on and so forth, and it is not our siddhanta that great souls are obligated to give themselves big titles.
So I can’t understand why there was no communication or vocalisation about his name change to his godbrothers!
PD: There was communication, we were calling him Prabhupada and they all knew it. But why does a great soul or Krishna have to advertise a big title to anyone? The pure devotee and Krishna are self effulgent and they do not require making big titles for themselves.
While you may say your authority is Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada many times mentioned his authority is Srila Bhaktisiddhanta who was also named Prabhupada. So I don’t know how you and the other devotees don’t see why they would get upset!
PD: Why would anyone be upset that the successor to Prabhupada is also called Prabhupada? That makes no sense at all. The successor to Prabhupada should also be called Prabhupada, and if he is not, that is defective.
As for Mulaprakriti misguiding anyone we are all guilty!
PD: No, we never told ANY children to worship the HOJO swami who was living at Howard Johnson Motels -- ordering take out pizzas -- and watching football, while thousands of children were being mistreated, and he was making horrendous Satanic art. In any case, if I lead blind people into a ditch, it is my job to go back and lead them out of there, not to just go on acting like nothing is wrong without making any public clarification and correction.
Some of those children were mortified to find out what a mess they were in later on, whereas I never put my children into that mess. I told them Prabhupada is their guru and they never had any of these mortifying experiences.
As for quotes “Srila Prabhupada said” we are not so naive to accept anything said by his disciples. You must give proof Tim!
PD: I was there when he said the God brothers are tinged with mayavada, I don't need to prove anything to anyone.
Where and when was it recorded with Srila Prabhupada’s voice!
PD: Not everything was recorded and I never said everything was recorded.
So if Srila Prabhupada said we were once with Krishna he must mean “pure devotees” who are sent here to preach not meat eating woman chasing unkempt hippy who don’t know which hand to use in the loo!
PD: He said all spirit souls originated in Krishna's leela or sport, and he said we have to go "Back to Godhead" because that is where we came from. And the God brothers objected to "Back to Godhead" because they have no idea why the jeevas are created in the first place, we are created to serve Krishna, and that is our original constitutional position.
Perhaps I can quote from my book “Acid Guru” if heaven’s the way you say I’d rather go to hell and play”. As you well know Mahajanas don’t fall! And certainly we all had wicked ways before we joined!
The rest of your post is immaterial to me except you mentioned “No idea why the ladies “gurus” would be able ... when so many men who do so are suffering many reactions”.
So can you understand the reaction of Gaudiya Math members with their strict upbringing towards women ! But you find fault on both sides Tim! Wats going on here!
PD: Yes, the Gaudiya Matha's guru Ananta Vasudeva was a deviant, and they supported him as acharya because they think conditioned souls or even deviants are acharyas, and that is why they supported the 11 GBC deviants after 1978. The Gaudiya Matha had strict policy against women, but Prabhupada had to preach in a country where women and men are mixing all the time, and that is why the Gaudiya Matha could not preach successfully here. They have no practical idea how things need to be done to preach in the West. ys pd
So I can’t understand why there was no communication or vocalisation about his name change to his godbrothers!
PD: There was communication, we were calling him Prabhupada and they all knew it. But why does a great soul or Krishna have to advertise a big title to anyone? The pure devotee and Krishna are self effulgent and they do not require making big titles for themselves.
While you may say your authority is Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada many times mentioned his authority is Srila Bhaktisiddhanta who was also named Prabhupada. So I don’t know how you and the other devotees don’t see why they would get upset!
PD: Why would anyone be upset that the successor to Prabhupada is also called Prabhupada? That makes no sense at all. The successor to Prabhupada should also be called Prabhupada, and if he is not, that is defective.
As for Mulaprakriti misguiding anyone we are all guilty!
PD: No, we never told ANY children to worship the HOJO swami who was living at Howard Johnson Motels -- ordering take out pizzas -- and watching football, while thousands of children were being mistreated, and he was making horrendous Satanic art. In any case, if I lead blind people into a ditch, it is my job to go back and lead them out of there, not to just go on acting like nothing is wrong without making any public clarification and correction.
Some of those children were mortified to find out what a mess they were in later on, whereas I never put my children into that mess. I told them Prabhupada is their guru and they never had any of these mortifying experiences.
As for quotes “Srila Prabhupada said” we are not so naive to accept anything said by his disciples. You must give proof Tim!
PD: I was there when he said the God brothers are tinged with mayavada, I don't need to prove anything to anyone.
Where and when was it recorded with Srila Prabhupada’s voice!
PD: Not everything was recorded and I never said everything was recorded.
So if Srila Prabhupada said we were once with Krishna he must mean “pure devotees” who are sent here to preach not meat eating woman chasing unkempt hippy who don’t know which hand to use in the loo!
PD: He said all spirit souls originated in Krishna's leela or sport, and he said we have to go "Back to Godhead" because that is where we came from. And the God brothers objected to "Back to Godhead" because they have no idea why the jeevas are created in the first place, we are created to serve Krishna, and that is our original constitutional position.
Perhaps I can quote from my book “Acid Guru” if heaven’s the way you say I’d rather go to hell and play”. As you well know Mahajanas don’t fall! And certainly we all had wicked ways before we joined!
The rest of your post is immaterial to me except you mentioned “No idea why the ladies “gurus” would be able ... when so many men who do so are suffering many reactions”.
So can you understand the reaction of Gaudiya Math members with their strict upbringing towards women ! But you find fault on both sides Tim! Wats going on here!
PD: Yes, the Gaudiya Matha's guru Ananta Vasudeva was a deviant, and they supported him as acharya because they think conditioned souls or even deviants are acharyas, and that is why they supported the 11 GBC deviants after 1978. The Gaudiya Matha had strict policy against women, but Prabhupada had to preach in a country where women and men are mixing all the time, and that is why the Gaudiya Matha could not preach successfully here. They have no practical idea how things need to be done to preach in the West. ys pd
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