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Oh my, big religion campus, you are safe here ... here we go again.
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PADA: Thanks RD. You are telling us -- Mathura Pati / Mathias Sabji [Prabhupadanugas EU] "did not know" that Krishna Kant had "made a deal with Jayapataka to send me to the Caribbean." He would agree that was NOT a good idea. He does not agree that Jayapataka should be recognized as our authority.
Really? That seems a little impossible to accept, since we have complained about Krishna Kant's [IRM] plan to have PADA editor become the "paid employee" of their Mayapur / Auschwitz for kids / Jayapataka program -- by having me become a paid subordinate [on vacation?] of the Jayapataka program, -- since 1997. I was going to be the dependent -- paid subordinate -- of Jayapataka, that was the Krishna Kant IRM plan, and still is the plan, since they never told me anything different.
Even in 1997, the other Prabhupadanugas were warning me, do not accept Krishna Kant's plan to go to the Caribbean -- under the care of Jayapataka. "You won't come back alive -- that is, if they ever even find your body."
And Krishna Kant ALSO said he is "going to war against PADA over the poison issue." Why does Mathura Pati and his Prabhupadanuga EU pals always want to work with the people who defend -- Judas?
As soon as we say there is a problem with Judas attacking pure devotees, these guys come out to vociferously defend the people who evidently poison pure devotees -- so they can get a piece of Judas betrayal gold and have a place in "our buildings" -- with Judas -- self evidently. Defending ISKCON's Judas club is not going to produce a good next life, guaranteed!
But all this makes sense. Jayapataka is one of the prime suspects in the poison issue, so Krishna Kant has to defend him to get a seat at the table with his Judas sabha mates. And then Prabhupadanuga EU friend Mukunda says "Puranjana is a mad man" also -- as soon as we came out with the poison issue, so he too could help Judas defeat us by discrediting us. Well sorry, we are not going to help these guys defend Judas, and their poison sabha pals.
The fact that Krishna Kant's IRM wanted me to work under the care and leadership of Jayapataka -- the Auschwitz for kids in Mayapur program leader -- has been publicly well known for over a decade. And this in fact has been well publicized all over the place. And then Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanuga EU began to complain -- PADA is not cooperating with Krishna Kant's IRM -- and thus is not cooperating with being under their Auschwitz for kids leadership scheme. Oh yeah, also hand maidens of Judas.
Many people are saying the IRM people wanted to "reform ISKCON," so they could take up controlling leadership positions there, and take charge of assets, and working with Jayapataka was required for their scheme to work.
And Mathura Pati is clearly with them, as he admits over and over and over by his promoting the Jayapataka compromised IRM folks. I also simply do not believe they never got the memo -- and they "did not know" of all this.
In any case, all they have to do is call me up and ask about it, but they never do. They just go on and on saying that anyone who is not agreeing to work with Krishna Kant, and thus become subordinated to their Jayapataka / Auschwitz for ISKCON's kids program, Judas sabha etc. -- is destroying ISKCON. Lets sit at the table with Judas and plot against PADA.
So all of them have been working under Jayapataka's influence, because their plan all along was to make me Jayapataka's paid employee / subordinate / hand maiden. They never told me anything different ever since. Nor has Mathura Pati ever said anything different to me about this ever since.
And then Jayapataka said we are destroying the "Golden Body of ISKCON," by taking hundreds of kids out of their Auschwitz for kids process, and saving many victims from taking their lives. And then Krishna Kant and the Prabhupadanuga EU team became his best disciples, and they ALSO began to parrot Jayapataka's "Golden Body" statements. Their Golden Body of pedophile messiahs is simply not something I have any interest in supporting.
And they still are complaining that we had hundreds of kids pulled out of their anal reconstructive surgery epidemic "Golden Body of ISKCON." Wow, and Judas is also part of the Golden Body?
But I don't bother to go to their sites anymore because they erase anything that tells the real story, it is another GBC hit job site. If they have any further comments they can write me direct. I said, since 1997, they are with the Auschwitz for kids program, and the Judas program, and clearly they still are, and thus they still are citing Krishna Kant -- who wanted me to work under Jayapataka, that is -- unless they have something new to add.
But everyone else knew the Mayapur program was mistreating children the whole time, because Sulochana said -- they are tossing children into a [Mayapur] wood chipper -- in 1986. Certainly Krishna Kant was well aware of that by 1997. And someone just sent me a clip of a video of some Caribbean Voodoo Horror movie, and they told me, this is what Krishna Kant has had planned for you! Hee hee. So they maybe did know this -- and didn't know that -- ok but they know now. What are they doing about it?
In sum either it is a good plan to have me join the Krishna Kant IRM plan and work under their Auschwitz for kids / Mayapur leadership / and Judas defense league, or it is not. And if they don't know the answer, then never mind, we will work with the people who do know the answer, which is 9999.9999% percent of all human beings.
I refused to join working under their Auschwitz for kids scheme and process, and then Krishna Kant told the devotees at the IRM meeting he is "going to war with PADA." No, the IRM are going to war against ISKCON's children, whom we are trying to get liberated from their Auschwitz for kids process. They are also going to war against Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint, to save their Judas pals.
They are going to war against Prabhupada's original books, because Krishna Kant told me not to sue the GBC over the changed books. And Prabhupadanuga EU says, we need to listen to the IRM, so they can save: -- their pedophile messiahs program; their Auschwitz for kids program; their Judas poisoners program; and their changing the words of the pure devotee program. OK same things Jayapataka wanted.
But yeah, if they have anything further to add, they can always write me and we can sort all this out.
When we tell a "karmi" media person, police person, or any regular Joe, the GBC made an Auschwitz for kids program, they understand what that means in an instant. If we tell these Krishna Kant / Prabhupadanuga EU ilk people there is an Auschwitz for kids program, they have no idea what that even means, since 1978. That means they are motivated and that blocks them from realization. There is good news, many other people do understand these issues and more are every day. PADA is gaining momentum, and these defenders of Kali Chelas are falling back.
And that is why the GBC people are even now -- recently complaining -- again -- about the poison issue, because it is gathering momentum, and so is the child abuse issue, and so is the book changes issue, and that will not stop at this point. If these people are really Prabhupadanugas, they would join with us and help us and not "go to war" to defeat these issues, which is what their actual leader Jayapataka wanted. So Krishna Kant wants to help Jayapataka oppress us on the child abuse issue, poison issue, and changed books issue, which is what the GBC wants. And then Mathura Pati advertises them, because evidently -- he is another boot kisser of the Jayapataka regime.
And that is also why the IRM objected to us having hundreds of kids pulled out of their program and the suicides reduced, that was not on the Jayapataka agenda. Oh yeah I forgot, "PADA is a liar," exactly what Judas and his pedophile minions say about us all the time! Then Krishna Kant says we should not initiate anyone, so Krishna will not have any trained brahmana servants. And that is the same plan as Jayapataka, and the result has sometimes been -- we have Krishna living in a ghetto with rats, bugs, mice and cock roaches. Why is that always the plan?
Anyway if you or anyone else can answer these points, same points that have been raised since 1997, go ahead. I thank you in advance for making a point for point reply. My opinion is, the same people who are part of poisoning pure devotees, making mass molester programs, and changing the words of a pure devotee, are not someone we should ever "make a deal with" and have me sent to the Caribbean under their care.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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MALATI:
AD: I would like to express my deep appreciation to Malati prabhu for her brave post where she voices her concern about the fact that Lokanath, a confirmed child molester, has been allowed a continued role of trust and honor during the current Mayapur festivities.Quite simply put, ISKCON cannot move on until the past is adequately addressed.
But more importantly, until this pervasive culture of honoring and elevating known child abusers is tackled once and for all, Srila Prabhupada's children will continue to suffer preventable abuse.
Every time Lokanath (or any other child abuser) is offered honor or any position of regard in ISKCON, it reinforces the culture/idea that the protection of our children and the future of our society is less important than the comforts of high profile perpetrators.
A Kuli: Totally! I am super careful what I watch too! Can't watch violent films at all. And I understand how things feel familiar and you just instinctively know...'get away.'
I gave up trying to be a good devotee years ago when I saw so much hypocrisy and misaligned values among fanatic hare Krishna’s. I figure that it’s more important for me to simply learn to be a loving and good person and become one, even if that makes me have to take birth over and over again. I’d rather not be in a race to go “back to godhead,” if it means cutting corners, bypassing and creating suffering for one self and others.
Much love. Thank you for sharing.
SM Dasi: My gosh, I wish someone would sit down with you and write your story…bless you for your courage to run away! It sounded like the best thing you could ever have done, and how terrifying that must have been at that age … thank you for your kind words. I love CC so much because she reminds us to be self-loving and not self-deprecating and rigid.
BJ: Sending tender respect & caring.
Srila Prabhupada said, that a devotee is a gentleman. And I think he meant it in the literal meaning of the world. Let all of us be gentle souls. If I have any healing blessings you have them all.
M Dasi: I love you. Yes .... we were first generation of children. There is no one that can fully understand how demoniac it was for us .... how many people it took to make that gurukula run its abuse on us with them all cooperating. You went through some serious shit before you can even speak. That childhood pain. I use it. Its the soul in my meditation. All i can say is. I love you. I feel you.
I am with you in spirit and in agreement.
A Kuli: Thank you sister for your clear channeled heart and voice.
AD: Thank you for sharing your truth. May you always be held in Divine love and protected.
I grew up in a couple of neighborhoods where pedophile perverts were active, thank Krishna I was protected from the worst possibilities that could have happened. but I saw some very questionable things... I try to empathize ...
I could probably use some counseling, I know it's rarely available.. I've had to be my own counselor and I have done the best I'm able to with what I have... I'm sure you've done the best to tolerate the intolerable... I'm proud of your survival skills and I have the deepest respect for you.
DP: Yes I suffered from OCD etc.
V Dasi: Oh No words. Just love across the miles and the years. Your heart so good, so deep, so caring. So many travesties your generation has lived through. I’m sorry I didn’t know.
KM: I love your authenticity to share this life experience in all its facets, with truth.
AD: God bless you. So sorry to hear about this…
A Kuli: One day, maybe I will be able to write about it. But for now, I'm just trying to manage how to handle all these emotions and memories for myself.
A Kuli: I would love that so much!!! I had no idea thats what you did. I thought for some reason you were working with children. Please, I'll reach out. I would love this sooo much.
YM: Thank you for being vulnerable and speaking up. The arena of neglect and abuse we grew up in should never have happened. No excuses! With our tumultuous start, life’s a constant maze to healing, peace and loving ourselves.
PADA: There is no excuse for this abuse happening in the first place, and there is no excuse for the GBC and their Prabhupadanuga EU / Mathura Pati defender pals to continue to cite folks like Naranarayana das -- saying that their mass molesting / Auschwitz for kids program is "the golden body of Srila Prabhupada and Krishna."
SGD: Krishna Kant is a compromiser. And Jayapataka is a very dark man. Just look at him. I would say ... hundreds or even thousands of children ... were abused in Mayapur in the past 40 years. And Jayapataka is the person in charge.
ReplyDeleteFor Krishna Kant to be sitting at the same table with this dark person ... gives me the creeps. And to "make a deal" ... to send a critic ... to the Caribbean ... is simply diabolical. They are not even hiding their plan to get rid of critics.
Worse of all? Jayapataka has some deep connection to the poison complaint. He is a very dark man ... with dark deeds in his history. As you can see ... just look at his face. Very dark future. Very dark ... even presently. Mayapur has become a haven for criminals and abusers ... for a reason.
Krishna Kant either made a big mistake ... or he wanted to use Jayapataka's "dark side of the force" to further his own self promoting. Like selling your soul to get something. What did he get? He is not trusted or admired.
And it is simple ... Prabhupadanuga EU has joined this dark group. These people have destroyed too many lives. Some of the Mayapur victims live here ... and they are in a heart breaking state of pain.
Anyone who endorses the people who caused all this pain ... are evil. There is no if, but or maybe. Purely evil people. I am one of the crazy people ... who thinks they use black magic tantra to harm others ... but all the evidence suggests ... they do.
Krishna Kanta must have known all of this already ... because everyone was talking about it. And still is. Even so. Ignorance is no excuse.
M Dasi. Same thing here. People listen to our gripes ... like they are very concerned. Then they go meet with the GBC and rat us out.
ReplyDeleteThese compromisers are the worst, no one can trust them. And no one should.
But really ??? sounds like they are smoking crack ... we are going to send the person who is helping suing us ... on a vacation in the Caribbean. And we will take good care of this person. Honest! Dumber than rocks.
Do they ever listen to themselves ... and realize how crack heads they sound? Oh no! Now they are saying we are liars! What they said at the start. Crack heads just repeat the same argument ... over and over because they have no idea ... how foolish they look to everyone else.
And if we are liars, as they say, then ... where is the proof?
Oh, at least you did not become turned into dog food in the Caribbean ... at least someone had their thinking cap on. I have heard some trouble makers "disappeared" after complaining in Mayapur. I believe ... it is possible, and you would have been just another unsolved disappearing act. These people are good for the TV show "Dumbest Criminals." It is sad they just don't see how badly they look to everyone else.