PADA: The Berkeley law enforcement told me, these people will not eat a hamburger, but they will eat you for lunch. The Los Angeles police told me -- these people hate your guts and they want to kill you.
There is some sort of weird problem going on here, where it seems, there are a lot of "Krishna devotees" out there who would like to see PADA editor dead. Of course, if Prabhupada was poisoned by some in this same group, then they would want to exterminate anyone who exposed these crimes -- ok like PADA.
And then Krishna Kant meets with Jayapataka, the leader of the Mayapur homosexual and pedophile messiah's program -- that many also believe poisoned Prabhupada -- and whose program thus probably -- wants to take me out for exposing these issues. And Krishna Kant's IRM "makes a deal" with Jayapataka to send me to the Caribbean, under the Mayapur management's authority. And everyone else tells me, don't go, you will be terminated. And beware the black magic Voodoo guys over there etc. Fine vacation then!
And then the Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU starts promoting Krishna Kant's complaints about PADA. And that simply is repeating Jayapataka's complaints about us -- exposing the poison issue and the gurukula's child beating, molesting and rapes issue.
And these guys claim to have "defeated" Srila Prabhupada for making a poison complaint; they have defeated thousands of children for making a molesting / rape complaint; and they have defeated PADA by saying we should not sue the BBT for original books. They defeated all of PADA's complaints and King Jayapataka reigns supreme!
Ummm, well nope. They are attempting to defend the people who are suppressing these complaints. But it is not working, because too many people already accept these complaints as valid. Of course, that means the IRM / Prabhupadanuga EU folks are helping the people who caused these complaints to be made in the first place. In short, they are STILL helping the leaders of the regime. And worse, they have been meeting with the leaders of the regime. And worse, meeting with one of the worst of those leaders, Jayapataka.
I personally would not want to be anywhere near -- being on the side of the people who are suppressing complaints about being poisoned -- made by a pure devotee, and complaints about beatings and rapes from children. I fear lots of things, but being a participant in the team of defense attorneys for Judas poisoners of pure devotees is something I fear doing -- perhaps more than anything else possible. Never mind I would not want to be on the same team that is suppressing complaints from molesting, beatings and rapes of children victims either.
Suppressing these issues is why thousands of children have been molested, and the poisoners of pure devotees are still being worshiped as saints. You guys helped save Judas and his helpers, which makes you one of Judas helpers.
Anyway there is good news -- thanks guys -- for making me a target, because that seems to have made me a very popular celebrity with -- Law Enforcement, the FEDS, the media, the courts, various book writers, scholars like J. Stilson Judah, current media and TV folks -- who are still talking to me now, and so on and so forth. You made me a million times more noteworthy than I would have otherwise been. Even Bhakti Vikas swami told me, "You are famous around ISKCON." Gee thanks! Or maybe not, since I was always hanging on by a thread from being terminated.
But there is also bad news. When I am six feet under, the same problems will still exist. There will still be deviants running the show in ISKCON, the ritviks will still be dysfunctional, and all the rest of it. And I will be maybe a bird flying in the sky on another planet, no longer worried about you guys! You won't have anyone to gossip about anymore!
Sorry, my departure will not fix anything for you guys, but it can't get any worse for me, so I am thinking it will be an improvement. Just forgetting about all the crap going on here will be a major improvement right out of the gate. And one of you wrote to say, three days after you are gone -- no one will remember you anymore. Goody, and I won't be here anymore to have any concern over that. Hee hee!
But while I am still here, I am going to object to people re-writing history, especially my own, or Srila Prabhupada's history of making a poison complaint, or kids making molesting complaints, or deviants changing the books etc. But overall I feel positive, we are making progress. For example, we are getting more victims to come forward -- and one of them just told me, "telling my story on PADA made me feel good for the first time in 30 years, and now I am telling it over and over, and each time I do, I feel even better." Yeah, so these are the people we want to work with, and we are.
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P DASI: Hare Krishna. Please forgive me for looking at things differently, but I think you miss an essential factor. "If Krishna wants to kill you no one can save you, and if Krishna wants to save you no one can kill you." So I think it is obvious that Krishna was ready to let Srila Prabhupada leave that body which he had used for so much service for the pleasure of Krishna.
You talk about Srila Prabhupada as if he was unprotected by Krishna. Actually the whole affair was yet another type of test for the devotees; who would be bewildered by Srila Prabhupada's passing, and who would sincerely continue with their service, following the instructions of Srila Prabhupada, and keeping Krishna in the center. Srila Prabhupada said "We are not against anything, we are for Krishna."
That is a fairly simple instruction, but can take a lifetime to perfect. Srila Prabhupada showed the people who were supplying the poison that he was not going to die because of the poison, he carried on living long after he was already supposed to have passed away considering the amount of poison which was found in his hair when it was tested sometime after his release from that mortal body.
So I think if you have real evidence to get Bhavananda in jail for his illegal activities then for heaven's sake use it and get the man removed from the position of 'superior devotee', and if you have evidence to incriminate someone other than Tamal Krishna "Maharaja" who has been dealt with already, in the poisoning affair then go ahead and take the necessary action.
Beyond that remember there are important services which need doing these days when millions of people are looking for relief from the media onslaught of pretending there is no difference between a man and a woman, and other crazy things like that, these days when devotees could be pushing the Krishna consciousness forward instead of harping about something which happened about 47 years ago, and which we can not undo.
I have been showing devotees who go out on book distribution that the books which they are distributing are not the books which Srila Prabhupada wrote for us, they have been changed. This is something which can be dealt with if more devotees would get involved in saving Srila Prabhupada's books from this offense.
And, quite frankly, I believe it is more important than lamenting over the extremely envious and nasty behaviour which a handful of devotees were involved in during the last months of Srila Prabhupada's stay on earth in the body he had during those days. No doubt he will come again when Krishna wants him to return, but can you imagine how disappointed he would be if he saw some of his disciples still alive doing nothing about the changes which have been made in his books, even though he told us many times not to change them. Hare Krishna
"If you talk in the modern society they will laugh: "What nonsense this man is... 'By sex life one becomes conditioned.' " They cannot understand. Hare Krsna... (japa) This should be strictly outlawed, no more sannyasis. And those sannyasis who have fallen, you get them married, live like a... No more this showbottle, cheating. It is very ludicrous... Even there is a promise that "We shall not fall down again," that is also not believable. What is the use?"
(Room Conversation, 7th January, 1977)
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(Room Conversation, 7th January, 1977)
"And this kind of hypocrisy--they have taken sannyasa and mixing with woman. This is not to be allowed. If you want woman you get yourself married, live respectfully. We have no objection. But this hypocrisy should be stopped. There have been so many fallen down. First of all there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience."
(Room Conversation, 7th January, 1977)
(Room Conversation, 7th January, 1977)
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https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2016/02/from-braja-sevaka-dasi-in-mayapura.html
PADA: Good question prabhu. How could Braja Sevaka and her husband be part of Mayapur management for decades, and they did not know about the rampant child abuse there, and the people who have been creating that program [Jayapataka and co.]. Yes, it is hard to believe.
And recently she harassed someone who was exposing that one of the abusers was floating around Mayapur again. And in fact she was recently credited with "stabbing victims in the back."
And she has been editing Sivarama's books, and he has been credited with stealing / plagarizing books made by various Vrndavana Babajis. In any case, yes, how could she be such a long time resident there -- and not know about the problems? I agree, it seems to be impossible to be there all this time and not know about these issues. The good news is, finally people are starting to call these people out. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
GURUKULIS CONVERSATION (Update) RE: Braja Sevaka dasi
VG: What’s so difficult for everyone in Mayapur / management to understand. A huge amount of abuse went on for many children, for many years. This was, and still is a huge majority of these children’s home.
These children (now adults) are horrifically now having to fight for some basic basic rights. To not have see their abusers on a daily basis, to not see them worshipped and honoured, to be able to leave their homes to go to the shop and not feel sick to their stomach every time they go out, to get some closer and support for all they’ve had to endure.
WAKE UP management. It’s not that complicated. The abusers can go literally anywhere else in world and live a peaceful life with their family away from any victims…… what is going on in our little bubble….. this is not how the real world functions…. Somehow abusers are always above the l law in our iskcon world.
GD: It’s because they either ARE the management, have power or money.
TL: They have plenty of enablers. I'm getting the same on my side as well. no one wants to believe it until its too late. then everyone says "how could this of happened?"
GD: This!
VK: Considering the GBC are meeting right now in Mayapur, the BS threat letters to victim's needs to be addressed at the highest level. Let’s face it, the gunda mentality against victims has to stop, and really this needs to be addressed at the highest level.
SF: What's a " gunda"? Is it approx "thug", "criminal"?
JV: Have you asked this question to your Guru, Radhanath swami? You are close to him so, why don't you ask? When Jvalamukhi Kopecka met with him, he simply asked her, "Where is the proof?" Doesn't it mean Rns is behind this too? When you ask others to wake up, you should wake up first yourself??
NB: Who died and made BS Mother Superior? Sheesh. A wall indeed. No human emotion there at all.
KE: Hasn’t she pretty much always been in denial?
NB: I've had dealings with her in the past. Nothing as arrogant and self-righteous as this though. I guess that's what bathing in donkey urine for years, even decades, will do to you. Mana-siksha reference for anyone who is confused.
NE: Same. she tried to have me kicked out of mayapur and had the authorities scrambling. i didn’t live in iskcon so they couldn’t do anything. and we hadn’t even ever met.
NB: They don't care about the second or third generation. They have their converts who will tow the line and never question their intentions. It's all such a ridiculous spectacle. Our acaryas would cry to see what a mess has been hawked in their names. I feel sorry for anyone who believes this sham is what has been predicted under their divine auspices.
MJ: There is a biblical story about the wise man who built his house upon the rock.
YP: “Pain is passed through the family line until someone is ready to feel it.”
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PADA: My experience has been -- some ex-gurukulis thank me for saving their lives and getting them some compensation -- some ex-gurukulis hate me because they think I knew a lot of stuff and was not bringing it out (I cannot make a police report -- the parents or victims have to file an official legal complaint themselves) -- some ex-gurukulis are angry I attacked their GBC guru and / or their Gaudiya Matha type guru who was acting as an enabler or advisor to the GBC gurus.
PADA: My experience has been -- some ex-gurukulis thank me for saving their lives and getting them some compensation -- some ex-gurukulis hate me because they think I knew a lot of stuff and was not bringing it out (I cannot make a police report -- the parents or victims have to file an official legal complaint themselves) -- some ex-gurukulis are angry I attacked their GBC guru and / or their Gaudiya Matha type guru who was acting as an enabler or advisor to the GBC gurus.
Which proves, you cannot win them all. My main help all along has actually been the police, FBI, courts, and media, and in many ways -- they still are. I also am friends with one ex-kuli who helped me a lot, especially in broadcasting the lawsuit, but many other kulis don't like him because he was a GBC enforcer / monitor for some time, and so they don't like me for being associated with him.
Very complex mess going on here. Overall, I wanted to help, and if my help was not enough, I apologize. At the same time -- keep in mind, I was being banned, beat, chased with bats, and my friends lives were taken and mine would have been too -- except the police saved me, literally moments before I was no longer going to be here.
I understand how a person in this situation could become an aggressor, it is unfortunately human nature for persons in a prison camp to become help mates for the prison's managers, I understand how that can happen. I don't think blaming them is what I would do personally, they are co-victims IMHO. For that matter I am also a de facto victim of the situation -- and so blaming me is not helping anything. ys pd
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SD Dasi: We all know what happened by now. They defeated Srila Prabhupada ... complaining about poison. Covered it up. Caused him "mental distress." They defeated the abuse and rape complaints from so many children. Covered that up too. Caused all sorts of pain and suffering to those children. Some would say ... unlimited amounts.
ReplyDeleteThey defeated complaints about changed books, and so now we have changed books everywhere. Not only defeated all these things ... they are proud of it. They are beyond disgusting, but that is too kind of a word to use.
And they want to defeat all the people who are not happy with them covering all this up. That just makes me want to fight back all the more.
PADA: Yeah, they were told about these things extensively in 1997. And that means ... all the child abuse that happened after, which is a lot, that is also on their hands. And the current mess of Mayapur is also on their hands ... because they wanted to appease Jayapataka ... and that enabled his regime.
But I have heard that before, calling them disgusting is way under the level they should be called. And yeah, they caused all this and they are proud of it. They are still puppets of the regime.
PADA: Yes NT prabhu, that is how it looks. Jayapataka told Krishna Kant to suppress -- the poison complaint of Srila Prabhupada, suppress the complaints of rapes by the children, and suppress the complaints about changing the books.
ReplyDeleteAnd Krishna Kant did that. And that is how they saved Judas, and Judas is still in office as their messiah in Mayapur. And that is how thousands of kids were molested -- and some of the took their own lives. And many of them are in states of trauma now. And that is how we have changed books everywhere now.
And Mathura Pati Prabhupadauga EU are the jack booted Gestapo thugs types, who have always helped these Judas poisoners, helped have many children raped, and helped make the changed books the standard, as their pro-pedo guru group has done since 1978.
Because they are on the side of the people who meet with Jayapataka, and who want to have me taken off the planet by taking me to the Caribbean, so they can save their anal sex messiah's project.
He is with Judas. And Prabhupadanuga EU are just one of many of these GBC jack boot thugs people who make sure these complaints are suppressed -- to save their child raping in Mayapur project / save their poisoners of pure devotees project / and save their book changer program.
And he is angry now? Yes, and the only reason he is angry now is, we caught him with his hands in the poisoners and rapers and book changers cookie jar, and we exposed him for who he really is.
Sulochana said they are tossing children into a wood chipper and there is not a whole lot more anyone could to add to that. We have been onto these people the whole time, and that is why they don't like what we are doing.
So we will just have to expose them, and that is why I have been working with the police, FEDS, media, courts, thousands of devotees, and other means of exposing them.
These Jayapataka fan club people need to be shut down, to save the Krishna religion, and save the people who are their victims. And at this stage, I would have to say, the wind is in our sails, many devotees are joining out side.
Just look at what P Dasi wrote, she accepts the poison issue, and so do many thousands and thousands of others because, we have credibility, and our opponents just do not, nevermind they don't have the facts on their side. Yeah, they are angry, because they are being exposed.
Yeah, hee hee, Lokanath swami looks like he is very depressed in that Video. He is taking karma from thousands of people and it is going to take him to the worst planets, and he must know that in the back of his mind. And he knows that a lot of people think he is a molester posing artificially as a guru, and he knows we all know who he really is as well. We are getting to all of them, there is an overall meltdown going on all over, agreed. They are on the run, so we just need to keep pushing things along. ys pd
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