ISKCON ex-Kuli And Comments 03 08 24

 

Bogus ISKCON and

Prabhupadanuga EU's

"Golden Body of Pedophile Pooja"

[Lokanath swami second left]

BK: Good - let them keep advertising their depraved, honor-less character.

Lets us simply consider and calmly think and present with rational articulation the implications; what does this say about their actual value hierarchy and how their choices make it clear what their actual character and role is.

And let us all adjust our internal and external way of relating to the corporate entity, to those supporting it and thus refine and deepen our relationship with our divine beloved. We all have our unique role in this drama, which is our individual opportunity to establish, refine and expand our relationship with our beloved Sri Krsna, casting aside all other dharmas, from that central position, where only He is qualified to stand.

Prabhu (Sri Krsna), you know what is best and I surrender to your loving, divine, all-encompassing arrangements and I am grateful for every unique opportunity to play with / for you.

I have been beaten mercilessly by those I was told were your people. They invaded my body and mind and intellect and my very sense of identity. Either I would become an actor for that force of degrading decay -- or I would have to go even deeper than my very name BK reached, to re-establish a path for my Atma to shine through.

Once that was achieved, I became naturally grateful for every part of it and would change nothing. Now I can see it as an amazing waking dream, we are all in, in which our roles are instrumental for achieving our hearts desires. We are invincible and deathless and free. 

I will still feel angry and helpless and pained and happy, loving, joyful etc, but now the whole spectrum is part of a larger balance, which clearly doesnt change or threaten me.

And now just being alive with this perspective makes every experience nourishing to the refinement and maturation of my subtle body, into a seva-upayogi-deha. I am becoming eligible for more exciting useful roles in his Lila, instead of an NPC.

Good morning -- my thoughts.

Happy to be here with you all.

Jaya Sri Krsna!

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A Kuli: Thank you dear friends for letting me air my emotional heart out in public on my post. Many of you know, I have held a lot of my childhood days out of the public arena, and I had not intended to write on a public media platform the other day.

I experienced a reality check that the community is telling people that what happened to us as children never happened!!! And then I woke up to Facebook showing me a memory from this day (a childhood picture). I found myself lost in an emotional storm, and shared it here with a broken, confused and angry heart.

PADA: Yes, one of the problems with the child abuse in ISKCON is a lack of acknowledgement / recognition / validation from the overall community. Or, as one person who tried to commit suicide told me "most of the people in ISKCON are in denial." 

And this lack of validation of abuse can cause severe trauma in the victims, making them think they are "the real problem" -- and not the perps and the regime that orchestrated the abuse. And this can cause severe self doubt and self destructive behaviors --including suicides -- in victims. And this has certainly been the case in and around post-1978 ISKCON.

Making the victims feel like they are STILL being ignored is also called "spiritual bypassing." All we have to do is -- ignore the problem, and it will disappear. Sorry, that re-victimizes the victims. They felt powerless and ignored during the abuse, and then were essentially told to suppress the abuse after the fact, to save the reputation of the mother church. And now many leaders are trying to act like none of the abuse ever happened, to write the victims out of ISKCON's history.

 

And the ISKCON "community" who are trying to minimize and deny the mistreatment of ISKCON children also includes the Prabhupadanugas EU folks like Mathura Pati. He has been quoting Naranarayan das -- who famously said in 1997 that the Windle Turley lawsuit is "attacking the Golden body of ISKCON." Yep, it is amazing, but not surprising, that someone would call assaulting of little children "The Golden Body of God's Religion." And then they wanted me to sign up as an employee of Mayapur, the head quarters of their abuse regime by having me work under Jayapataka, the leader of their abuse regime.  

Number one process used by molester cults is to suppress, embarrass, and contain complaints of abuse and make the victims feel like the guilty party for making trouble for "the Golden Body of The Church." Wow, so these "ISKCON community" people, which includes the Prabhupadanuga EU folks, think that a cult that is banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating devotees, and is creating "industrial levels of child abuse" is -- "The Golden Body of God's Church." And they have been saying that EVEN AFTER it was revealed that there are probably several thousand ISKCON children victims. 

You are NOT victims of our Satanic cult! You are not even victims of anything, you are floating in heaven in the golden body of God and His Vaikuntha heavenly planets! And now you are making offensive statements about God's heavenly realm!  

And then their hero writer Krishna Kanta said the lawsuit would take away "our buildings" because he was working on a deal with Jayapataka to take over some of these buildings. These people worship buildings and money and not Krishna at best, or they worship Kali Yuga or Beelzebub worse case. 

A Kuli: I want to thank each and every one of you who cared to help me with these memories, by replying with heart support, to my post. I have received such love and support from so many friends, and for that I cannot express my gratitude. It especially touched me that one of my peers, a girlfriend who has been near and dear to me for over 20 years, and is a professional, immediately called and offered the most precious gift of therapy once a month!!! Out of her own pocket!

I told her that these days of painful recollection I was singing old songs to myself to sooth my heart! (there are some real jewels out there) I shared with her that I might just make these very intimate songs my new expressions of music going forward. 

K Dasi, you are a true heart soothing sister! Phone calls like yours are for the mature of heart and deep. I thank you so much for being my friend. How a woman from the next generation can have so much wisdom and heart put together was a gift I never expected. Your letter will be framed in my home and may everyone who ever has to re visit painful memories, combined with denial of it, and a death in the family at the same time, be blessed to be held in the hands and hearts of community!

PADA: Painful memories, combined with the society's denial of it ever happening. Wow, double barrel suffering.

A Kuli: I truly appreciate each and every word of love that was sent to me. I am going to begin to write my book and I am going to see a therapist while I do it. Otherwise, it's like going into a snow storm without a coat on. I (we) can't do it alone. 

N Dasi: Not sure what type of counselor starts with a 20 minute session , was that Just an intake session. Sometimes it takes a little time find good therapist , have you also simply tried an online therapist… there many different national ones available …

A Kuli: 30 minute sessions was all that was available. Don't ask me to describe the state medical health system. 

J Dasi: My heart breaks ... hearing this. May They Always hold you in Their loving embrace ... while you heal those wounds so deep...

PADA: A lot of the GBC victims are still suffering, and it does seem like the leaders are oblivious to all the damage they have created for others, especially children.

J Dasi: Oh my dear this picture breaks my heart. You were such a beautiful child, I just want to hug you and hold you and keep you safe. These atrocities should have never happened. It's amazing what a special soul you are, to have survived all this and have full faith in the Holy Names and Srila Prabhupada. I love you my dear. I remember you. Praying that we'll meet again sometime in this life. 

C Dasi: I suggest seeking out a seasoned therapist who lists C-PTSD as specialty and is versed in a body based modality such as somatic experiencing as well as CBT. You were a cute little baby. 

AM: I love you. 

A Kuli: I’m so grateful for you.

R Devi: Indeed … and what type of ‘silence’ but the silence that never stops crying, even in deep sleep!

MB: The Ali Akbar College of Music wasn’t quite as bad, since we were adults when we joined, but after 12 years I had to go through a year of deprogramming and a sweat lodge with Charles Thom Senior, chief medicine Man of the Karuk, tribe of Northern California, helped a lot.

SB: "Someone needs to write historically and stop protecting and lying for the 'gang' that ran the cult. It wasn't a pretty package, and it most certainly wasn't one guys doing. The ending isn't a neat little ending." TRUTH!

I haven't watched any of the documentaries about us because I can't imagine them NOT stirring up stuff. I was fortunate to do therapy back in the '90s with two powerful women -- an Indian woman who helped me clearly see the difference between ISKCON and Vedic culture (basic, I know) and a Jewish woman who was married to a Bengali. They both made a world of difference. Sending you lots of love. 

A Kuli: I feel EXACTLY the same as you ... I haven't watched the documentaries either. Neither have I watched the other ones on Rajneesh or Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini group. I felt the exact same way. Actually, my first instincts and words were....'oh, no, there's not enough therapy in the world to dig me out of the pit that would put me in'!!! 

But my friends have been calling to discuss their interviews in these documentaries, and well, I might as well have watched them I realized; with just all the discussions going around. I usually find myself a little better off when I don't have to be revisited by it. Thank you for sharing your healing therapy experience. I thought I saw the difference between Iskcon and the Vedic culture, but then with these documentaries hitting so close to home with NV as the topic and all the names coming up that I had buried, its been a raw experience. 

PADA: Yep, the leaders are trying to write the victims out of ISKCON's history, and re-write history, but we cannot allow them to get away with that. And Yamaraja won't let them get away with that either. Anyway, for my part, I am glad to have been able to give a voice to some of these victims, and in that way give them some form of acknowledgement and encouragement. 

Of course, that won't make me popular with the pedophile guru's lover's club members. Yeah what does it say -- when a known molester like Lokanath is still advertised as a saint? In the holy dham? Or he has been a messiah in the Prabhupadanuga EU "Golden Body of ISKCON."

What does it say when GBC folks / Prabhupadanuga EU are still angry I did not work with their IRM pals -- and sign up to be an employee of their guru leader Jayapataka -- and their Auschwitz for kids program -- as they wanted me to do in 1997? It means, at least according to some victims, these people are part of a Satanic child sacrifice cult. The good news is, more people are catching on to who they really are every day. And I am glad to have had some little part in that process, because being silent is complicity. 

Someone wrote to tell me that PADA has been the original "Save the Children" program for ISKCON. Hee hee, maybe so! No wonder they are upset I did not take up their offer to take a vacation in the Caribbean, I helped spoil their molester messiah's party. Anyway, all these victims coming out is a great thing, we should fan the spark of them coming forward, and make it into a big bon fire, and burn down the corrupt Golden Body of pedo pooja. 

ys pd 

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