The IRM
PADA: Hate to say it but -- we told you so! Many times! Mayapur has had a big child abuse problem, with various leaders there enabling that problem, and maybe it has had that problem for decades -- perhaps since the late 1970s. And we tried to say exactly that -- Mayapur has a big child abuse problem also in 1997, when we simultaneously helped the Windle Turley lawsuit. At the time -- various victims said they were victimized there, and reports of current problems there were coming in.
The good news is that there are more and more people saying "Mayapur is a cesspool" "we need to get rid of all the management there" and so on, at the present time. So there are more and more people, actually thousands, who agree with PADA that the place needs to be cleaned up.
What actually happened is -- things went further down hill in Mayapur after 1997, with Jayapataka, Bhakti Vidya Purna swami, Bhavananda, Dayaram, Naresvara, Nitai Chanda, Satadhanya and many others -- making the regime even worse there by various accounts. Yep. According to various reports "industrial levels of abuse" started getting worse there -- after 1997. AFTER we ALREADY said there is a problem there.
Unfortunately, at the time Krishna Kant and his IRM folks [Kamsahanta etc.] were "negotiating a deal" with Jayapataka [the Mayapur leader] to send PADA editor on "a vacation in the Caribbean" -- where we would stop all our writing. Oh swell, and we would have never returned from that "vacation" alive. And without us writing, the child abuse issue would have been buried and lost in the dust -- even worse. And that was the "ISKCON Reform Movement" plan?
And then Krishna Kanta and his IRM folks / Kamsahanta / Naranarayan / Sanat / Mukunda / Pancali / Krishna Kirtan etc. said that PADA is "destroying the Golden Body of ISKCON," by calling out the molesting issue, including the ongoing problems at Mayapur. Yep, children living in an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic are living in "The Golden Body of ISKCON." Why would anyone oppose that?
In other words, they wanted to defend the molesting regime, including at Mayapur, by saying the industrial level molesting program there is "The Golden Body of ISKCON." Worse, the Krishna Kant IRM wanted me to become Jayapataka's paid employee / vacationer in the Carribean -- on the Mayapur payroll. And since we refused to apply for a job on the Mayapur payroll, the IRM, HKC Jaipur, Mathura Pati's Prabhupadanuga's EU etc. have been upset ever since.
And all that explains why we have had to work with "karmi" law enforcement, FEDS, media and courts etc., because the "karmis" understand that a program that is starving, beating, molesting, assaulting, abusing and raping children is NOT "the Golden Body of God." Yeah, who knew!
So that means that the Krishna Kanta IRM folks, and their various allies like Naranarayana, Sanat, Mukunda, Prahlad, Pancali, HKC Jaipur, Prabhupadanuga EU, Mathura Pati and others saying that the Mayapur mass molesting program is "The Golden Body of ISKCON" is how they kept all this molesting, abuse and even rape of children program going on ever since -- from 1997 -- up to the present day, 2024. They have aided and abetted that program. Even the Berkeley Police told me, the [Krishna Kant et al.] people who oppose you are enabling these criminals. OK that would include this group.
And that means -- these IRM clones are co-responsible for covering up, enabling and allowing that mass molesting program, if not acting as enforcers for that program by oppressing our dissent. And the remarkable thing is -- they are still citing Naranarayan and others -- that all their program's banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and assassinations of dissenters program is STILL -- the "Golden Body of ISKCON." Then they wonder why their children victims are upset with the religion?
In short -- it means they are co-responsible for making that program continue, by chopping off the legs of our protest, all along -- and in many cases --- up to now. Why are they STILL citing Krishna Kanta's folks -- who claimed their mass child mistreatment process is "The Golden Body of ISKCON." Umm, well most people would say nope, it is a Satanic child abuse cult and is thus not the Golden Body of the Lord.
It should be noted that Mayapur is supposed to be the HOLY DHAM of the Krishna religion, and so it is the one place in the universe that should have a zero tolerance system against children being mistreated there. But that is clearly not the case. We have recent reports of minors being abused, of past victims being assaulted for challenging their abusers, and an overall "thugs and goondas" predator friendly program going on there.
Recently one of the former students told me it was a regular program for us students to eat "watered down dahl and rice," basically prison food, while the leaders ate sumptuous feasts. And after we had the GBC sued in 1997 for mass child abuse, and we helped the $20,000,000 India lawsuit, the Mayapur people were asking for donations for -- shoes for the kids there. There was a shortage of funds for the kids, no shortage for lawyers.
And one of these former students said, he still thinks the kids there are not getting good treatment, their program is under funded. And he said the worse thing is, these kids get out of the Mayapur school system -- with no actual practical job skills -- so they can support themselves. Anyway now some poor woman had to confront one of the abusers there, and the person making the video is accosted by Mayapur security goons. It is amazing that a woman has to make her own defense, and there are no men doing that job there.
And there are reports of many other victims feeling helpless and hopeless around there. But this is the problem with calling all this "The Golden Body of ISKCON." Anyway, we do not agree that a program that is banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing Vaishnavas is the Golden Body of ISKCON and we hope these IRM groupies eventually start to realize that.
Mathura Pati's Prabhupadanuga EU has been saying that because PADA does not endorse their mass molesting Golden Body / anal reconstructive surgery epidemic program, and we refused to become Jayapataka's employee, and work for Mayapur, that makes us "sick people who need therapy."
Why are they still promoting the Mayapur program's leaders as the Golden Body of ISKCON, and citing Naranarayan who has make this claim? Sorry, a program that oppresses and even rapes children is "Auschwitz for kids" according to the victims, and we are on their side. Anyway, we just went on another media program and we will continue to expose these people, and the good news is, hundreds or even thousands of devotees are coming over to our side.
ys pd
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DD: What does Srila Prabhupada think of ISKCON leaders' track record when it comes to child protection? Would he be satisfied that a prestigious temple is being erected whilst Mayapur remains an unsafe place for the Society's children and youth? Where they have to fend for themselves because the leaders are too preoccupied to put safeguards in place?
DD: What does Srila Prabhupada think of ISKCON leaders' track record when it comes to child protection? Would he be satisfied that a prestigious temple is being erected whilst Mayapur remains an unsafe place for the Society's children and youth? Where they have to fend for themselves because the leaders are too preoccupied to put safeguards in place?
What is a leader's responsibility when a school is opened and report after report comes out - decade after decade - clearly describing a culture of widespread abuse? How long should it take to remove those clearly identified as being responsible?
Does the Society's leadership actually value and care about the Society's children? Do they listen to them? Are they concerned when they get disillusioned with Krishna consciousness because they are severely mistreated? That their education often fails to launch them into productive lives? That many remain traumatised?
It literally beggars belief that Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission of compassion - being carried out through the agency of ISKCON* - is being led by people that can't find it within their hearts to do the needful with the Society's children and youth. That have time and energy for so many other initiatives - typically those bestowing greater prestige (like accumulating disciples, erecting gorgeous temples, festivals of flowers) but not for children.
That have the means to fly business class and live in opulent quarters but not to fund the CPO. That feel more compassion and sympathy towards the abusers and seeing that they are properly situated than they do for the victims. That enjoy all the perks and privileges of leadership but don't earn them by doing the needful for children.....
Our Society's youth and children need to feel safe, valued, encouraged, welcome.... How's it possible that we can collectively fail so spectacularly in such basic humanity?
* And of course there are other institutional vehicles, sangas, etc
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PADA: Yep, this is the GBC / Krishna Kanta / HKC Jaipur / IRM / Prabhupadanuga EU / Mathura Pati's Golden Body of ISKCON, even minor aged girls are not safe inside their Golden Body. And M Dasi says she would not even trust them to baby sit her dog. Sulochana said their Golden Body of ISKCON is "tossing children into a wood chipper." And we agree!
AD: This is the sad state of iskcon Mayapur. A young women has to stand up, speak up, because the men won't. Its a flipping joke. BVP abused children there for 40 years! Other pedos walk around freely!
They sit on the big vysana giving class. They are in the temple room singing kirtan, trying to look saintly. Keep praying for our youth, our children, women and elders. Iskcon is not safe!
They sit on the big vysana giving class. They are in the temple room singing kirtan, trying to look saintly. Keep praying for our youth, our children, women and elders. Iskcon is not safe!
Iskcon Mayapur is amazing. Every step is a dance, every word is a song. Or is it?
My daughter was stalked there by men from when she was the age of 11 years old. This went on for 5 years years, and has continued even after she left.
My daughter was stalked there by men from when she was the age of 11 years old. This went on for 5 years years, and has continued even after she left.
As she ignored him trying to make contact with some of them, they then went on and started vicious rumours about her. Many other women have suffered and are suffering domestic abuse. Their husbands, who are talented kirtaneers, continue to sing in the temple room.
Or they are amazing pujaris, but they are beating their wife and children. Senior brahmachari there walks around asking for sexual favours from women. But the women won't speak up about him, because they know if they do, they are the issue. They are the problem, and that will hinder their chance of getting visas to be in Mayapur. Almost looks like none of the victims are allowed to protest, without being punished.
So instead of focusing on big spiritual matters, let's talk about basics, what is everyone's roles in raising childern. Let's talk about domestic abuse, talk about consequences. Let's implement some rules! Let's talk about mental health!
Awareness will reduce these things happening. But the leaders don't want to talk about it, we are big devotees. We are in a failed society if we can't look after our kids, our future. Beautiful temple going up, but our school looks like it's from the 1950s. We have no funds, no budget for youth serices. Or ways to increase employment for them. Would be insteresting to see the budget for youth services a year / for childerns education. Anyway let's keep praying
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"Open letter to KR"
Hare Krishna,
I was a student in the Mayapur girl school, I suffered abuse under Sri Radhe and Madhava.
Dear KR,
I am writing to address a matter of significant concern regarding your son and Sri Radhe. It is evident that you are aware of the abuse they have been accused of inflicting on the children in the Gurukul. Sri Radhe and Madhava Gauranga were the deans of both the girls' and boys' Gurukul.
Moreover, you yourself have endured Sri Radhe's drama and abuse almost on a daily basis. If you didn't comply with Sri Radhe's wishes, you were not allowed to see your own grandkids, not allowed to see your son, or visit their house. You yourself were subjected to emotional abuse, and you were an adult.
The emotional abuse you yourself were subjected to is nothing compared to what the girls in the girls' school were submitted to on a daily basis, year after year, and they were small and defenseless children. Emotional, mental, spiritual, and psychological abuse without end.
Sri Radhe thrives on drama as long as she is the center of attention, and Bhakti Vidya Purna [BVP] and Madhava Gauranga enabled her to act in any crazy way she wanted. BVP did anything Sri Radhe wanted, and Madhava had to; otherwise, BVP would get on his case severely.
Now when they need you, they are using you to run around to the GBC to further their cause. Even though you know how abusive she is and was, are you actually helping? There will be no change until Sri Radhe and Madhava Gauranga take full responsibility and accountability for all the abuse - emotional, mental and spiritual - they put the children through. And recognize the trauma, harm, and hurt their victims feel on a daily basis.
If they truly took responsibility, they would go anywhere in the world or live outside where none of their former victims reside, keep a very low profile, stay in the back, chant Hare Krishna, take care of their kids, and get counseling. The support you are giving them is totally invalidating what they did to the kids in the school.
Madhava Gauranga, yes, your son, is lying, harassing the victims, using you and others to stand up for them. Nothing will change, and you are not helping them; you are just furthering their sick behavior, and they will never stop.
What about being civilized and following due process?
Well, they are not. They are totally using you because you are a "Prabhupada disciple," the mother, and have something to do with the Vaishnavi ministry, dealing with abused women. It seems you should know about abuse! So where is your empathy to the victims living in Mayapur that have to encounter Sri Radhe and Madhava Gauranga on a daily basis.
You should know that there is absolutely nothing that triggers a trauma response and panic more than encountering your abusers, so where is your compassion? You have other family members that also were severely abused by Sri Radhe, to the point that the girl was hospitalized. She couldn't walk; she was bedridden for 3 months and couldn't tolerate light or sound.
She had to crawl to the bathroom, and after several tests were done, the doctor said it's all the symptoms of severe PTSD. It took her months to be able to walk again. Also, the incident in the park with Abhi, you choose to believe everything Madhava Gauranga says. You had other family members there and others, and their story of what happened is completely different. Madhava Gauranga is also harassing the victims.
You will never actually help him if you keep on buying into and believing everything he says. You know as well as all the students in the girls' school that Sri Radhe is a compulsive liar. So why would the girls believe anything she says about her abuse by BVP? Nobody believes her because the abuse stopped when she got married to your son, and for years after that, BVP was so close to them that he was even babysitting their children.
As a responsible mother who claims to have been severely abused, it doesn't make sense. From past experiences with Sri Radhe, not one of her victims have any trust in what she says or what motives she has. She is textbook narcissistic, and she needs to be in the center of everyone's attention, she is an expert manipulator, and you know this, so how are you actually helping? What they are doing is typical DARVO behavior: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim Offender. Very common with abusers.
Also, they are invalidating, saying the children all came from broken and abusive homes, that they were traumatized before they came to school. Again, a lie. They are also trying to say the girls are lying and there was no abuse in the school at all.
They are accused of child abuse and all of a sudden they are the biggest victims. Whatever pain and abuse they themselves went through is of course horrific, but that's not the discussion here and it's totally irrelevant to kids that were abused by them. You are instead just supporting sick behavior; they need professional help to understand what harm they are causing and have been causing in the past to so many people.
How will there be healing for them if they don't take accountability and responsibility for the pain they caused to so many without excuses? If they do so, then they can start healing their own trauma.
So please help them, don't further their sick behaviour!
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AA: I feel sorry for mothers of child abusers . It is natural for a mother to protect and love her son but their vision is obscured and they become resentful towards anyone who has proper vision. Presently in Adelaide temple, the wife of the TP has the same mentality. Her son has been banned for sexually abusing a young bhaktin female.
Instead of being humble, she looks at every one who supported the victim (including myself) with daggers in her eyes. Even if anyone tries to be friendly and compassionate towards her and say Haribol to her, she rudely ignores you, as if you are the problem and not her abusiving son.
Devotees like her and Krsna Rupa need healing and counselling. Another thing I feel sorry for Madhava Gauranga. Imagine being the son of nasty guy like Nareswara who is corrupt. No wonder the boy has problems. The best thing for MG is to totally remove himself from Mayapur and even his family influence.
Then he has a chance of healing and making his life more sane.
V Dasa: The disease is spreading from the head. Worshiping insane personalities leads to a variety of drifting from ordinary dharma, kind of disturbed devotion. Building back a sane social circle and to escape from the sick company give a chance to heal and perform a quiet Bhajan.
RS: This is becoming so sickening. The movement has deviated so much from its original goal. It's like the tracks of a train line. One is straight, the other deviates and over time they become further and further away from each other. In time they are nowhere near each other.
SJ: Bravely spoken.
SR: If you truly care about the wellbeing of someone, you cannot endorse and enable them ... that is harmful to others and themselves. Thank you
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"Open letter to KR"
Hare Krishna,
I was a student in the Mayapur girl school, I suffered abuse under Sri Radhe and Madhava.
Dear KR,
I am writing to address a matter of significant concern regarding your son and Sri Radhe. It is evident that you are aware of the abuse they have been accused of inflicting on the children in the Gurukul. Sri Radhe and Madhava Gauranga were the deans of both the girls' and boys' Gurukul.
Moreover, you yourself have endured Sri Radhe's drama and abuse almost on a daily basis. If you didn't comply with Sri Radhe's wishes, you were not allowed to see your own grandkids, not allowed to see your son, or visit their house. You yourself were subjected to emotional abuse, and you were an adult.
The emotional abuse you yourself were subjected to is nothing compared to what the girls in the girls' school were submitted to on a daily basis, year after year, and they were small and defenseless children. Emotional, mental, spiritual, and psychological abuse without end.
Sri Radhe thrives on drama as long as she is the center of attention, and Bhakti Vidya Purna [BVP] and Madhava Gauranga enabled her to act in any crazy way she wanted. BVP did anything Sri Radhe wanted, and Madhava had to; otherwise, BVP would get on his case severely.
Now when they need you, they are using you to run around to the GBC to further their cause. Even though you know how abusive she is and was, are you actually helping? There will be no change until Sri Radhe and Madhava Gauranga take full responsibility and accountability for all the abuse - emotional, mental and spiritual - they put the children through. And recognize the trauma, harm, and hurt their victims feel on a daily basis.
If they truly took responsibility, they would go anywhere in the world or live outside where none of their former victims reside, keep a very low profile, stay in the back, chant Hare Krishna, take care of their kids, and get counseling. The support you are giving them is totally invalidating what they did to the kids in the school.
Madhava Gauranga, yes, your son, is lying, harassing the victims, using you and others to stand up for them. Nothing will change, and you are not helping them; you are just furthering their sick behavior, and they will never stop.
What about being civilized and following due process?
Well, they are not. They are totally using you because you are a "Prabhupada disciple," the mother, and have something to do with the Vaishnavi ministry, dealing with abused women. It seems you should know about abuse! So where is your empathy to the victims living in Mayapur that have to encounter Sri Radhe and Madhava Gauranga on a daily basis.
You should know that there is absolutely nothing that triggers a trauma response and panic more than encountering your abusers, so where is your compassion? You have other family members that also were severely abused by Sri Radhe, to the point that the girl was hospitalized. She couldn't walk; she was bedridden for 3 months and couldn't tolerate light or sound.
She had to crawl to the bathroom, and after several tests were done, the doctor said it's all the symptoms of severe PTSD. It took her months to be able to walk again. Also, the incident in the park with Abhi, you choose to believe everything Madhava Gauranga says. You had other family members there and others, and their story of what happened is completely different. Madhava Gauranga is also harassing the victims.
You will never actually help him if you keep on buying into and believing everything he says. You know as well as all the students in the girls' school that Sri Radhe is a compulsive liar. So why would the girls believe anything she says about her abuse by BVP? Nobody believes her because the abuse stopped when she got married to your son, and for years after that, BVP was so close to them that he was even babysitting their children.
As a responsible mother who claims to have been severely abused, it doesn't make sense. From past experiences with Sri Radhe, not one of her victims have any trust in what she says or what motives she has. She is textbook narcissistic, and she needs to be in the center of everyone's attention, she is an expert manipulator, and you know this, so how are you actually helping? What they are doing is typical DARVO behavior: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim Offender. Very common with abusers.
Also, they are invalidating, saying the children all came from broken and abusive homes, that they were traumatized before they came to school. Again, a lie. They are also trying to say the girls are lying and there was no abuse in the school at all.
They are accused of child abuse and all of a sudden they are the biggest victims. Whatever pain and abuse they themselves went through is of course horrific, but that's not the discussion here and it's totally irrelevant to kids that were abused by them. You are instead just supporting sick behavior; they need professional help to understand what harm they are causing and have been causing in the past to so many people.
How will there be healing for them if they don't take accountability and responsibility for the pain they caused to so many without excuses? If they do so, then they can start healing their own trauma.
So please help them, don't further their sick behaviour!
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AA: I feel sorry for mothers of child abusers . It is natural for a mother to protect and love her son but their vision is obscured and they become resentful towards anyone who has proper vision. Presently in Adelaide temple, the wife of the TP has the same mentality. Her son has been banned for sexually abusing a young bhaktin female.
Instead of being humble, she looks at every one who supported the victim (including myself) with daggers in her eyes. Even if anyone tries to be friendly and compassionate towards her and say Haribol to her, she rudely ignores you, as if you are the problem and not her abusiving son.
Devotees like her and Krsna Rupa need healing and counselling. Another thing I feel sorry for Madhava Gauranga. Imagine being the son of nasty guy like Nareswara who is corrupt. No wonder the boy has problems. The best thing for MG is to totally remove himself from Mayapur and even his family influence.
Then he has a chance of healing and making his life more sane.
V Dasa: The disease is spreading from the head. Worshiping insane personalities leads to a variety of drifting from ordinary dharma, kind of disturbed devotion. Building back a sane social circle and to escape from the sick company give a chance to heal and perform a quiet Bhajan.
RS: This is becoming so sickening. The movement has deviated so much from its original goal. It's like the tracks of a train line. One is straight, the other deviates and over time they become further and further away from each other. In time they are nowhere near each other.
SJ: Bravely spoken.
SR: If you truly care about the wellbeing of someone, you cannot endorse and enable them ... that is harmful to others and themselves. Thank you
PADA: Yeah, don't endorse or enable the Golden Body of child abusers, we agree. ys pd
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LD: Sounds like a plan. Send you to the Caribbean
ReplyDeleteRegion for an extended vacay. Jayapataka will take good care of you! And in no time ... you will be shark food.
Was the IRM trying to get rid of you ... for good? Very naive or ... very dangerous. Or??? It is why they did not like the "poison" problem either. If they took the side ... that it is real ... then no compromise is possible. They wanted a compromise. They still say the "poison theory." Cannot accept what most of us do.
Don't see any benefit they got from compromise. Meeting with Jayapataka ... like asking the MAFIA to be nice. Not possible. The IRM are either very naive or ... corrupt. These compromisers are not going to be accepted by the wider Prabhupadanugas. Their compromising helps the Mayapur gang continue.
And children suffer the result. There is karma for helping them ... and it is very serious. I believe Jayapataka is part of the poison party. "Making deals" with him is the worst karma there is.
Jayapataka is going to pay for your vacation in the Caribbean? This sounds like a good way ... to get rid of you ... good thing you did not agree. You would not be here now. These people are very foolish either way.
And Mathura Pati is angry you did not go to the Caribbean in the IRM plan? He wants to get rid of you too ... he is another GBC mobster. Lets feed the devotees to the sharks in the Caribbean. And save the Mayapur child abuse kingdom. A bunch of dangerous fools.
M Dasi: I heard all this nonsense at the start. "We are the Golden Body of ISKCON." I believe this was made by Tamal. And now they are his followers.
ReplyDeleteCan't the Prabhupadanuga EU fanatics find a new cheer team mantra? We are the Golden Body ... or the house of horrors? How many people believe the pedophile molesting in Mayapur is ... the Golden Body ... anymore? Seriously ... these people are trying to take us back to 1978.
Someone's gotta tell them ... it is official ... it is over. The molesting program had to be exposed. There was no other way to help the children. Do any of these men even have any children? And why would these "men" be in love with a homosexual and pedophile Mayapur heaven? I think I know the answer!
Got a bunch of these "men" over here as well. They should not keep defending the Golden Body of pedophiles and gangsters at Mayapur any longer. Their karma will be the worst.
Jayapataka looks terrible these days. You did the right thing not making any "deals to go to the Caribbean" with that crazy Krishna Kant and his Mayapur gangster people. You would not be here now ... I know how they do things ...