KAUNTEYA DASA
Everything Seemed to Indicate a Stroke…
I sang the mangala-arati at the Gaura Nitai temple, ISKCON Munich, and then I experienced a sudden loss of energy and signs of numbness on one side of the body.
After taking rest the symptoms persevered, and we called an ambulance. The medics’ preliminary tests brought them to the conclusion “It’s a 90 or 100% chance that you had a stroke.”
The ritviks may have been useful when their freezing of the sampradaya helped fight the GBC, but these are different times, you cannot keep the parampara frozen indefinitely when the 33rd acarya comes. Then the ritviks will become the GBC they were fighting before. The dragon hunter becomes a dragon himself.
PADA: Krishna Kanta never consulted with me. He said that Srila Prabhupada said there will be no more pure gurus for 10,000 years, but that was never stated. As far as people giving up bogus gurus and starting to worship Prabhupada, all kinds of people were worshiping bogus gurus when they became his devotees in the 1970s. Just because a person was worshiping a bogus guru previously does not mean he will be unable to change later.
I have got maybe 30 former Hansadutta people here to worship Prabhupada now. Srila Prabhupada never said the parampara is frozen, there is no such statement. He said a pure devotee will be self effulgent, and so far, no one is. As far as fighting the GBC, if no one fights the worship of homos and pedos as messiahs, then the public will think all of the Krishnas do. I have met TV and media people who tell me, I am the only Hare Krishna they ever met who does not worship homos and pedos.
Everything Seemed to Indicate a Stroke…
I sang the mangala-arati at the Gaura Nitai temple, ISKCON Munich, and then I experienced a sudden loss of energy and signs of numbness on one side of the body.
After taking rest the symptoms persevered, and we called an ambulance. The medics’ preliminary tests brought them to the conclusion “It’s a 90 or 100% chance that you had a stroke.”
They recommended going immediately to a hospital (in on of the photos, I am explaining what happened to a doctor and a nurse at the emergency ward).
To make a long-ish story short: after almost two days of all sorts of tests (including multiple blood tests, a CT scan with contrast, and a thorough MRI of the brain), they concluded that it hadn’t been a stroke, but something else that produced similar signs.
To make a long-ish story short: after almost two days of all sorts of tests (including multiple blood tests, a CT scan with contrast, and a thorough MRI of the brain), they concluded that it hadn’t been a stroke, but something else that produced similar signs.
They don’t know exactly what caused the episode; it could have been over-exertion or several other causes—but the news is good. And so I came back to the temple, just in time to celebrate the birthday of Danakely Kaumudi Devi Dasi, the temple president.
And so our tour, Krishna willing, continues, with going to Berlin tomorrow, the multi-cultural, chaotic capital of Germany, as the next stop.
I am afraid I don’t have super-deep insights to share, besides the customary:
1. We are not the body.
2. This body is complex and fragile – it can crash at any moment.
3. Old(er) age makes the body more frail and vulnerable
4. German hospitals – and this one in particular – are good, but they are not infallible. (This one, for instance, couldn’t get the meaning of “vegan,” and kept bringing me slices of cheese…) I didn’t even try to explain “Ekadasi.”
5. Without its migrants Germany would collapse (not enough working men and women, much less taxes into the government’s coffers, etc.) – and so I had a number of nurses from a number of places (Serbia, Croatia, Russian-sounding, Philipino-looking, of African-ancestry, etc.—even a doctor from Italy!)
6. Buy medical insurance.
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PADA: As soon as we complained about the child abuse, and Kirtanananda having sex with boys, the GBC countered that me and Sulochana are liars, drunks and sahajiyas -- to discredit us. And according to Sulochana, to make us targets for elimination.
The ritviks are the only people who collated all of Srila Prabhupada's quotes in the 1980s where he should be the sole guru. And not only that, the ritviks recently won a Supreme Court case based on these documents. There should be a legal as well as spiritual basis for making Prabhupada the acharya. The ritviks have also made legal work to print original books, and that is in court presently. At the same time a criminal case has been made against the GBC in the Supreme Court, because it is our duty to expose false acharyas. It is a bad idea to allow predators and orchestrators of mass child mistreatment represent the name of Krishna, and allowing that is giving Krishna a bad name which makes it harder for the sincere. This needs to be cleaned up for the benefit of the Krishna society, or the Krishna society will be lumped in with the false acharyas process, and condemned thereby, if that has not happened already. ys pd
M DASA: What ritviks? Krishna Kant with his "The Final Order"? Madhu Pandit, who was behind the creation of the GBC ISKCON together with Jayapataka? Sundar Gopal, who served the GBC for decades and then suddenly saw the light and said that changed books are okay? Why support these rascals? Some people have done more than all of them put together, who took the name "ritvik" as an alternative and opposition to the corrupt GBC. But you can also take another name or just be under your own and not give the fruits of your activities to the ritviks, but keep them for yourself or as an offering to Prabhupada. Why do I need some ritviks who, within their group, cannot be grateful to other "ritviks" for their contribution or, worse, belittle their merits?
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PADA: As soon as we complained about the child abuse, and Kirtanananda having sex with boys, the GBC countered that me and Sulochana are liars, drunks and sahajiyas -- to discredit us. And according to Sulochana, to make us targets for elimination.
The ritviks are the only people who collated all of Srila Prabhupada's quotes in the 1980s where he should be the sole guru. And not only that, the ritviks recently won a Supreme Court case based on these documents. There should be a legal as well as spiritual basis for making Prabhupada the acharya. The ritviks have also made legal work to print original books, and that is in court presently. At the same time a criminal case has been made against the GBC in the Supreme Court, because it is our duty to expose false acharyas. It is a bad idea to allow predators and orchestrators of mass child mistreatment represent the name of Krishna, and allowing that is giving Krishna a bad name which makes it harder for the sincere. This needs to be cleaned up for the benefit of the Krishna society, or the Krishna society will be lumped in with the false acharyas process, and condemned thereby, if that has not happened already. ys pd
M DASA: What ritviks? Krishna Kant with his "The Final Order"? Madhu Pandit, who was behind the creation of the GBC ISKCON together with Jayapataka? Sundar Gopal, who served the GBC for decades and then suddenly saw the light and said that changed books are okay? Why support these rascals? Some people have done more than all of them put together, who took the name "ritvik" as an alternative and opposition to the corrupt GBC. But you can also take another name or just be under your own and not give the fruits of your activities to the ritviks, but keep them for yourself or as an offering to Prabhupada. Why do I need some ritviks who, within their group, cannot be grateful to other "ritviks" for their contribution or, worse, belittle their merits?
The ritviks may have been useful when their freezing of the sampradaya helped fight the GBC, but these are different times, you cannot keep the parampara frozen indefinitely when the 33rd acarya comes. Then the ritviks will become the GBC they were fighting before. The dragon hunter becomes a dragon himself.
PADA: Krishna Kanta never consulted with me. He said that Srila Prabhupada said there will be no more pure gurus for 10,000 years, but that was never stated. As far as people giving up bogus gurus and starting to worship Prabhupada, all kinds of people were worshiping bogus gurus when they became his devotees in the 1970s. Just because a person was worshiping a bogus guru previously does not mean he will be unable to change later.
I have got maybe 30 former Hansadutta people here to worship Prabhupada now. Srila Prabhupada never said the parampara is frozen, there is no such statement. He said a pure devotee will be self effulgent, and so far, no one is. As far as fighting the GBC, if no one fights the worship of homos and pedos as messiahs, then the public will think all of the Krishnas do. I have met TV and media people who tell me, I am the only Hare Krishna they ever met who does not worship homos and pedos.
So if we want to change that, we have to fight, or look compromised. If we do not fight the homo and pedo guru dragon, people will think we are the homo and pedo dragon's compromiser and acquiescing agent. And they already do in many cases. Many people already believe all the Hare Krishnas are with the false gurus, because not enough of them resisted. ys pd
M DASA: I am against both the GBC and the ritviks for their deviations. The fact that ritviks are marginal does not mean that they should be ignored. It is better to clarify everything in advance, as a preventive measure. I do not understand why you should speak for all ritviks, it is better to speak for yourself and promote yourself or call yourself something else. Because you are not a typical ritvik, not a "pure ritvik" and it is still not clear in the ritvik community what a "pure ritvik" is. Probably Krishna Kant with IRM, but now some ritviks are discussing this and calling it a toxic ritvik. You are more of a soft ritvik or a mixture of ritviks and are waiting for a successor - a new uttama. Not all ritviks agree to a new uttama - that is why they freeze the parampara.
PADA: Krishna Kanta is not a pure ritvik. He told me to stop the child mistreatment lawsuit, stop the BBTI lawsuit, drop the p*ison issue, because he has worked out a deal with me to go on vacation in the Caribbean, under the payment of Jayapataka. Jayapataka is paying for my vacation. OK I am suing Jayapakata for $400,000,000, and Krishna Kanta wants to to go on vacation in the Caribbean, stop all the lawsuits, and stop writing, and be subordinated to the payments of JPS. Do you folks have any idea what would happen to a person like me in the Carribean under Krishna's Kanta's plan?
M DASA: I am against both the GBC and the ritviks for their deviations. The fact that ritviks are marginal does not mean that they should be ignored. It is better to clarify everything in advance, as a preventive measure. I do not understand why you should speak for all ritviks, it is better to speak for yourself and promote yourself or call yourself something else. Because you are not a typical ritvik, not a "pure ritvik" and it is still not clear in the ritvik community what a "pure ritvik" is. Probably Krishna Kant with IRM, but now some ritviks are discussing this and calling it a toxic ritvik. You are more of a soft ritvik or a mixture of ritviks and are waiting for a successor - a new uttama. Not all ritviks agree to a new uttama - that is why they freeze the parampara.
PADA: Krishna Kanta is not a pure ritvik. He told me to stop the child mistreatment lawsuit, stop the BBTI lawsuit, drop the p*ison issue, because he has worked out a deal with me to go on vacation in the Caribbean, under the payment of Jayapataka. Jayapataka is paying for my vacation. OK I am suing Jayapakata for $400,000,000, and Krishna Kanta wants to to go on vacation in the Caribbean, stop all the lawsuits, and stop writing, and be subordinated to the payments of JPS. Do you folks have any idea what would happen to a person like me in the Carribean under Krishna's Kanta's plan?
Only the sharks would know what happened to me. Krishna Kanta is a pure compromiser, and he wanted me to stop everything and work under the GBC, because he was going to make them surrender to his plan. I never said I wanted to take a vacation in the Caribbean and work under Krishna Kanta, and all of my friends told me, I will never return from there, ever. You are mixing things up here, Krishna Kanta is not any sort of authority. And he still has on his web site that I am a trouble maker for bringing out the p*ison case, he wants to help the GBC stop that. I don't care what the other ritviks have to say, because I was writing papers in 1980 before anyone of them even knew anything about any of this. ys pd
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