PADA: Dhanesvara says that worship of a pure devotee is never found in shastra, we need to worship the living person as guru. OH OH pilgrims, PADA finds zero percent evidence that worshiping a pure devotee is never found in shastra!
But this is good, after all their previous "living person gurus" flopped terribly, he is now the new living person -- equal to Jesus -- and he is the jagat diksha guru who can absorb sins from others. Sorry, we cannot worship the living conditioned soul as a guru, that is not working, and is not authorized.
Dhanesvara says there is always a living guru, but when asked -- what is the name of his living guru -- ok he says he is now that living guru himself. Sure, but that is called self appointed guru. This is the typical pattern with the ritvik bashing leaders, they wanted to be gurus themselves. But they are not qualified. Yes, as a matter of fact me and Jesus are equals. Not so fast there little cricket! ys pd
GAURA GOVINDA MAHARAJA:
Devotee: Should we accept someone as authority if they have material attachments and are not situated on the spiritual platform?
Srila Gour Govinda Swami: We accept because we are in a society. Someone can be the GBC of any region of the world, so according to the management system, he is the authority.
PADA: OK so when Gaura Govinda Maharaja's -- GBC annointed -- homosexual and pedophile messiahs are claiming to be Lord Krishna's successor, because they were 2/3 show of hands voted in as guru by the GBC, "we" accept this person as Krishna's successor because "we are in a (homosexual and pedophile messiah's) society."
Yep. A society that worships illicit sex with men, women and children deviants as God's messiahs. Sorry that is not even cats and dogs society, that is demoniac society. Gaura Govinda maharaja also commonly confuses "us" and "we" with himself. When he says "we accept" he refers only to himself accepting his homosexual and pedophile guru process. "We" don't accept! Neine danke!
Sorry! We are also part of the -- we -- and "we" never accepted his pedophile guru lineage. And "we" never will!
But by the spiritual system, unless I am convinced, I cannot accept it as an authority. That's up to me. I have independence. It's my choice. As for the management system, I accept it because it's GBC.
PADA: No, we have almost zero independence in the ISKCON guru system. We are forced to accept their homosexual and pedophile guru process -- or be banned, beaten, sued and maybe assassinated. There is severe coercion going on in GGM's ISKCON, and independent minded folks are often suppressed if not DRIVEN OUT ON A RAIL, if not hunted down for extermination.
But as for spiritual things, unless I am convinced I cannot accept. "Please excuse me. "The acceptance of someone as spiritual authority should not be forced or obligatory. That's a start.
For me to accept someone as spiritual authority, my heart must be convinced, because it is based on the desire of the heart. It's not an external thing. It's internal. Acting that way is not offensive.
I'm not looking down on it. He is a vaishava, so I bow to him. We bow down to all the Vaishavas, whether they are kanistha, madhyama or whatever. That's label. But accepting someone as a spiritual teacher, that's something else.
Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj (Darśana, Bhubaneswar, 1990)
PADA: This is rather ridiculous. OK sounds good. We bow down to any Vaishnava. Sure, except people who promote the enforced cult ritualistic worship of illicit sex with men, women and children, homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks etc. as God's successors messiahs -- are not even low class sudras. They are deviants of the worst order -- never mind not Vaishnavas. Human society only promotes the worship of pure devotees, or it is not Vaishnava society, or human society, or even the lowest class of sudra society. Even the mlecchas never worship perverts as their gurus, they have a much higher standard than most of ISKCON's current leaders.
Nope. It is not a Vaishnava society. It is a Satanic predator and pedophile worship cult, which is a peril to brahmanas, women, children, cows and all other living entities. Gaura Govinda does this all the time, WE have a society -- ok nopey nopey, HE has a society -- not we -- and his is a society of homosexual and pedophile guru worship. Yep, HE has a society of pedophile acharyas, not WE, -- in fact we are not connected to his society in any way, shape, or form. We reject his Satanic society wholesale. ys pd
Devotos Espana
"Saints" Protecting the Degenerates
Guru Prasad, Radhanath, Bhakti Vikas and Jayadvaita among others, defend pedophiles and homosexuals. Why? Is the old social friendship with such depraved, superior to compassion and justice towards underage victims?
Guru Prasad wrote a statement some years back to be distributed among his disciples ordering them not to confront Dhanurdhar on social media or in person. On several occasions he has denied Dhanurdhar's guilt of physically and psychologically abused students.
In addition to this he also said that the minors abused by Dhanurdhar during his tenure as the director of Vrindavan gurukula were problematic characters from dysfunctional families. That comment is highly disrespectful towards those innocent creatures and their families.
Furthermore, to cleanse and exalt the figure of Dhanurdhar, he describes him as someone who managed with his preaching to attract very important people, successful in professional works; in contrast to other preachers who attract mediocre and poor followers; this statement is grossly disrespectful towards other preachers and members of the international vaisnava community.
Possibly with this qualification he is once again voicing that his own disciples come from disintegrated families, are poor and have no initiative to assist him. But what can you expect from Guru Prasad? His decisions as administrator or GBC are surprisingly wrong always despite having for 25 years a secretary-secretary who whispers in your ear with excessive familiarity what to say or do.
Guru Prasad has also defended his admired friend Keshava Bharati. Radhanath is well known for questionable implications in atrocities committed in New Vrindavan (USA); but also for protecting underage abusers such as Mr. Alan ex Bhaktividya Purna, Sri Galim, Dhanurdhar and others.
Bhakti Vikas is also mentioned in the sexually degenerate advocates hall. There are written and audiovisual proofs of him minimizing child abuse committed over 40 years by Mr Alan ex Bhaktividya Purna, simply using the argument that he has managed to establish a gurukula of Vedic culture and be a preacher promoting Vedic lifestyle. Another of the advocates for Bhakti Vikas is Keshava Bharati, which is well visible in the video of an encounter between the two.
It seems that for Bhakti Vikas, preacher of rancid arguments and a very visible mental disturbance, he doesn't care about the sexual immorality of his psychopathic friend, though he is never limited to his ruthless judgements towards other preachers about the practical way of being pious in Western society.
Jayadvaita was and remains the number one critic, outraged over the sanctions imposed on Dhanurdhar by the GBC.
Jayadvaita was and remains the number one critic, outraged over the sanctions imposed on Dhanurdhar by the GBC.
We remember how he jumped screaming feminine hysteria as usual, when his little friend Dhanurdhar was charged and tried. Jayadvaita or “Mr. Jay Israel” has also failed to control his emotions defending Keshava Bharati.
EXPERT AND FORENSIC POISONING EVIDENCE
EXPERT AND FORENSIC POISONING EVIDENCE
The enormous stockpile of evidence in Srila Prabhupada’s lethal, homicidal poisoning is shocking and scientifically confirmed. Srila Prabhupada’s poisoners and their supporters, accomplices, and followers continue to corrupt and exploit ISKCON since 1977. A brief review:
A. FORENSIC HAIR TESTS: Neutron activation analysis at MURR (USA) by Dr. J. Steven Morris, Ph.D in a series of tests done 1999-2005 on Srila Prabhupada’s 1977 hair samples revealed about 250 X normal cadmium and 6 X normal antimony levels in three samples, and 20 X normal arsenic levels in a fourth. These samples were authenticated and provided by ISKCON’s GBC, meeting proper standards of authenticity and chain of custody.
• Srila Prabhupada’s 2.6 ppm arsenic level is synonymous with chronic arsenic poisoning levels and would be expected to be a considerable contributing factor to his demise, as stated by the Chief Medical Examiner of Delaware in 1999.
• The ISKCON GBC failed to test their Srila Prabhupada’s hair samples in 1999 and they were done in 2002, having 250 X normal cadmium levels.
• Scientific studies show the average normal level of hair cadmium is 0.064 ppm.
• Srila Prabhupada’s cadmium levels were 40 X more than those industrially contaminated (average 0.387 ppm).
• There is no plausible explanation for these super-high cadmium levels, except ingestion via malicious homicidal poisoning.
• There is no plausible way that exogenous sources similarly tainted these 4 hair samples.
• These cadmium levels are virtually unprecedented in the scientific history, not found even in major environmental exposures or occupational accidents.
• The hair tests show massive cadmium poisoning from Feb. 1977 until Nov. 14, 1977, and medical symptoms indicate poisoning began as early as May 1976.
• Cadmium was the primary poison, with arsenic and antimony being secondary.
• Pre-1976 hair samples had normal levels of heavy metals, contrasting BEFORE and AFTER the poisoning.
B. FORENSIC AUDIO TESTS: Multiple studies by prominent forensic audio labs reveal that Srila Prabhupada’s caretakers whispered/spoke about malicious poisoning in the background on tape recordings that were routinely made to capture Srila Prabhupada’s words.
• Srila Prabhupada spoke clearly on Nov. 9 and 10, 1977 that he thought he had been poisoned. He said, “Someone has poisoned me” several times and all his caretakers acknowledged on tape recordings that he spoke of an actual homicidal poisoning, and not just some “bad” medicine as now claimed by ISKCON leadership.
• The three certified poison whispers are listed above, in which the “poison” word is confirmed by a long list of top-level audio studios and forensic laboratories. The suspects Tamal, Jayapataka, and Bhavananda’s voices are clearly discerned as speakers of the poison murmurs and whispers, which are now undeniable scientifically-certified evidence of poisoning by these caretakers.
• A forensic study by Tom Owens (Owl Investigations, Colonia, NJ) concluded: “There is conversation about poison and the use of it… A forensic toxicologist and homicide investigator should be consulted.”
• ISKCON GBC leaders claim that they cannot hear these whispers, but this is contradicted by many audio experts and lay persons at random. The whispers are about poisoning, and about poisoning Srila Prabhupada less than three days before his departure- this is because there was a poisoning conspiracy. There is no innocuous or other explanation for this scientifically established fact.
• Certified Voice Stress Analysis (CVSA, a superior lie detection method) has determined that there were considerable amounts of deceit in key sections of recorded conversations by leading disciples of Srila Prabhupada during late 1977.
• The aural evidence has been verified scientifically to be the caretakers discussing about poisoning Srila Prabhupada.
C. WITNESSES AND TESTIMONIES: Many witnesses and testimonies directly support the assessment of homicidal poisoning by way of a poison conspiracy to take over ISKCON.
• Srila Prabhupada stated on audio tapes he had heard others speaking about his poisoning.
• Bhakta Vatsala das was a gurukula student who overheard in 1977 a group of senior devotees discussing the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada, according to his testimony, and that from Ramanya, Durlab, and others.
• A number of prominent Vrindaban residents have privately testified as to knowledge of Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning, including the witnessing of a urine test, and of three kavirajas (ayurvedic doctors) agreeing on a diagnosis of Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning in his last days.
• There are other testimonies indicating that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned. These testimonies should be followed up with legal depositions and investigation.
D. SRILA PRABHUPADA HIMSELF DISCUSSED BEING POISONED: Being a pharmacist, chemist, enlightened soul, and mystic clairvoyant, Srila Prabhupada knew he was poisoned, stated such on audio recordings, and even materially speaking, knew what were the symptoms of poisoning.
E. INSTITUTIONAL DENIALS AND STONEWALLING: ISKCON’s GBC has obstructed any honest investigation into this matter and instead has conducted a fraudulent, sham, make-show whitewash of denying the issue even while several of its top leaders are primary suspects.
• ISKCON GBC’s steadfast denials of the voluminous evidence constitutes a dishonest cover-up. The GBC endorsed book Not That I Am Poisoned, produced and financed by the chief suspects themselves in their own defense, is grossly misrepresentative and manipulative of the facts and evidence. The book is an insider, devious cover-up composed of lies and fraud.
• ISKCON GBC disregarded the advice of their own appointed investigator, Balavanta das, ignoring his recommendation for further investigation which needed proper funding.
• The irrational and persistent, hardline GBC refusal to conduct an impartial, honest and independent investigation is in itself evidence that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned.
F. PRIME SUSPECT SPOKE OF MERCY KILLING (“medicine to die now”): Days after Srila Prabhupada departed in late 1977, prime suspect Tamal discussed at length with Satsvarupa (ISKCON guru, ex-GBC) on an audio recording about supposedly being asked by Srila Prabhupada for “medicine to die now.” This is a virtual admission that he and others poisoned Srila Prabhupada, using euthanasia as their justification. No comment by ISKCON GBC has ever been offered for these statements.
G. MOTIVE, OPPORTUNITY, MEANS, GAIN: The poisoners had a very compelling motive to eliminate Srila Prabhupada, evidenced by how a small group of institutional insiders profited almost immediately by falsely assuming the seat of the Acharya and gaining enormous power, prestige, wealth, and thousands of unsuspecting, innocent followers. ISKCON was hijacked (guru-jacked) and infiltrated by poisoners who enticed other ambitious men with whom to share the spoils.
H. EXPERT OPINIONS: This is a brief summary:
• Dr. Page Hudson, forensic pathologist, former North Carolina Chief Medical Examiner, stated about the average 15.73 ppm cadmium levels in Srila
Prabhupada’s hair:
“One ppm is considered a rather hefty load of cadmium. About 20 ppm is distinctly abnormal. Wasting, kidney disease, and the spillage of sugar are certainly consistent with cadmium toxicity, but unfortunately are common with many other conditions and diseases. …the exposures to the material must have been small and over a period of months.
To administer intentionally this poison in this fashion would call for amazing subtlety and patience. … would more likely have received multiple doses or had chronic exposure to reach the hair level he did – without having some clinically acute, dramatic episode marking the exposure. …the cadmium may have done irrecoverable damage months before death and all subsequent hair growth may have been drawing from the body pool of cadmium – without new exposures.”
• Dr. Anil Aggarwal, forensic toxicologist, professor at Maulana Azad Medical College, New Delhi, stated about Srila Prabhupada’s high cadmium in hair levels: “Cadmium 20 ppm in hair is prima facie evidence of poisoning with malicious intent…A perusal of your book, and other facts …point strongly in favor of cadmium (poisoning)… I am able to defend your contention in any forum.”
• Dr. Dipankar Chakraborti, Director Environmental Studies, Jadavpur University stated on the same topic: “He will be finished. He can’t survive more than three, four days.”
• Dr. A. Chatt, Professor Dalhousie University, Nova Scotia, specialist in neutron activation analysis, stated: “The level of 20 ppm seems to be very high if external contamination is ruled out. I have done thousands of hair tests and sometimes see at most 2 ppm cadmium.”
• Kenneth Paul Eck, president Analytical Research Labs, Phoenix AZ: his firm has done close to a million hair tests for private individuals. He and his head chemist Russ Madarash stated ARL rarely sees hair cadmium over 1 ppm, their average is c. 0.06 ppm, their highest value was 4 ppm, and a red alert level would be 2 ppm. Mr. Eck also stated: “…20 ppm was off the chart.”
• Dr. Mehta, Ayurvedic physician, Houston Texas, stated after studying videos of Srila Prabhupada in his last days: "The expression and symptoms of the face, the eyes and the manner of speaking indicate to me that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, most probably by arsenic or mercury. He himself said that he was poisoned, confirmed by dullness of the face and how the natural color of the body is gone. This is very hard for the average person to understand; only the experienced eye can tell."
• AGGREGATE OF SCIENTIFIC STUDIES, compiled and averaged:
Seventeen studies of cadmium hair levels in normal persons not known to have any unusual exposures resulted in an average normal level in human society of 0.064 ppm.
Twelve studies of cadmium hair levels in environmentally or occupationally exposed/ contaminated persons resulted in an average “exposed” level of 0.387 ppm.
• CONCLUSION FROM SCIENTIFIC STUDIES: Eleven pertinent scientific studies show that the lethality and morbidity of Srila Prabhupada’s average 15.73 ppm hair cadmium, maintained for a minimum of 9 months, is an imminently life-threatening level.
• AUDIO FORENSIC STUDIES on audio recordings made in 1977 have determined beyond doubt there were several caretakers of Srila Prabhupada in his last days who engaged in conversation, whispers, and murmurs about poisoning. Jack Mitchell (CAE, New Mexico), Tom Owens (Owl Investigations, New Jersey), J.P. French (England), James Reames (JBR Technologies, Virginia), Truth Labs (India), and others all confirmed secretive, conspiratorial discussion about poisoning Srila Prabhupada.
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