Wednesday, July 31, 2024

Enhanced Vids / Hindus / Bogus PADA / Bhagavan Das 07 31 24


Srila Prabhupada - Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.3 -- Melbourne, May 22, 1975 (4k, Enhanced Sound) (youtube.com)

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Question: Are Civilians Responsible for a Leader Declaring War and therefore Must Also Suffer?.........


Prabhupada: But one thing is that because civilians are also responsible for declaring war, because the parliament is the representation of the people. Therefore, now the war is between people to people, nation to nation. They support with men and money. So therefore they are also killed by nature's law.


>>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk [World War III] -- April 4, 1975, Mayapur

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Regarding the Hindu community: Don't expect anything very wonderful from them, as we have got experience in Montreal—they have come in the foreign countries to earn money. As such, you cannot expect any cultural contribution. So you will tactfully deal with them, and whenever possible, vehemently protest against their foolish ideas. But you should try to support your statements on the strength of Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita. Best thing will be to avoid them as far as possible. I am concerned to preach this gospel amongst the Europeans and Americans, and I am not at all interested to preach amongst the Indians, because they have now become hodge-podge, due to so many years of subjugation by foreigners, and having lost their own culture. (Prabhupada letter to Gurudasa 29th September, 1968)

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PADA IS BOGUS UPDATE

PADA: Thanks prabhu for your question. You tried to say something positive about PADA, and then some folks from the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati / Krishna Kant IRM people right away complained that PADA is a bogus deviant. Why is that? 

Well for starters, Mathura Pati says he has "no idea what I am even talking about." Umm, he has no idea who children are? He has no idea that we cannot allow children to be raped and mistreated, and then take their lives? But any hamburger eating person walking down the street knows "who and what" children are, and knows it is a crime to allow them to be mistreated. In other words, people who eat beef are far more spiritually advanced than these people ever will be -- at least so it seems. I don't know who children are? Sheesh pilgrims! 

For his part, Prahlad says the reason PADA is protecting children is that "PADA is not chanting his rounds." Yep, only people who "chant their rounds" defend mass child rape cults. Again, the average beef eating man -- who has never chanted one mantra -- knows that allowing children to be mistreated if not raped is a criminal act.     

So that is the difference between these "devotee" guys -- and the average hamburger eating karmi people. The "karmis" understand what I am talking about -- immediately -- forthwith -- and with no elaborate explanation: 

1) We cannot allow children to be beaten and / or raped, and then start to take their own lives in disgust and frustration, especially in our own religion; 

2) We should not change the books of the religion, and; 

3) The founder of the religion complained of being given poison -- by a cabal -- that was trying to usurp his mission. What is not to understand here? Any average hamburger eating person immediately understands what these issues are, and the importance of them. These guys  ... don't. But neither do most of the GBC's guys? 

And none of this is new. When Sulochana was here, he complained of the same thing i.e., the mundane people know we cannot allow worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs, whereas most devotees not only don't know that, they argue with us, and defend the worship of deviants. Sulochana said we are arguing with brain dead zombies, they cannot understand anything we say -- because they are brain dead. So yeah, the problem is, they don't want to understand.

But thanks, you'd rather be with us -- defending children -- than be with the people defending those who are exploiting children. Yeah, some of these guys keep quoting people like Radhanath's cheer leader Bhakta das, or Bhavananda's bucket boy Hari Sauri, so clearly, some are in league with the homosexual and pedophile messiah's program. And that is why they cannot understand the problem, because they are the problem. Anyone who chants their rounds will defend illicit sex messiah's programs? Then, why would anyone chant? They are a bad advert for the chanting.

Of course they are also simply parrots of the homosexual pedophile regime, they said we are liars, and these guys say we are liars. They are hand maidens of the pedo regime. So yeah, they won't agree with us, and that is fine, we will expose them then, and we are. Yeah I am glad that "now you know," the anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club has many helping hand maidens. 

Even Bhakta Peter says that we are not helping Prahlad promote Radhanath's cheer leaders because "PADA is a liar." Yep, these are the same agenda people who bury homosexual pedophiles in samadhis -- and think PADA is on the wrong side for objecting to their agenda. Yep, PADA is a liar, it is what all the child exploiter's folks said the whole time, it is their agenda. All of these pedo messiah and samadhi lover's club people said we are liars -- since 1978, they just don't have any rational, never mind moral, explanation for their program. ys pd 

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Re: Henry Doktorski's Writings

BN: This commentary gets to the point fast. It's so sad how present day Iskcon is STILL BEING ran.

RBC: In France the delirium of the zonal guru Bhagavan went as far as buying this historic castle in the middle of a village. The level of hostility of the villagers who saw the big shiny BMW of his majesty went very high. I left one year before the fall of the naked guru who fled in 1986 letting the all thing collapse. I am really unsure at this point that the man has realised the harm he has done to so many devotees with his giant ego trip. His right hand man at the time was Vishvambhar swami, who left his body last week in Quebec.

Henry Doktorski III

RBC: "I am really unsure at this point that the man has realised the harm he has done to so many with his ego trip."

I don't think so, Prabhu. Bhavagan has appeared on Facebook maybe a year or two ago, and has compared me to a "vulture" because of my book, "Eleven Naked Emperors," in which the zonal acharyas are portrayed not as all-knowing and infallible beings we were taught they were, but as the fallible and imperfect beings which there were (are).

DD:  Ermenonville was, I gather, a historically important site for French people. Jacques Chiraq, the President, was so incensed that the Krishnas had bought the place that he took away ISKCON's charity status and backdated its tax obligations in an attempt to financially destroy the movement. And it almost worked. Even New Mayapur's existence was threatened.

I share your perspective that Bhagavan has yet to fully realization how much devastation his conduct as a zonal acarya and then his leaving caused to so many.

MR: From what I see, the mistakes of the past are useless lessons for so many. They continue to voluntarily make mistakes, with scandals, pedophilia and abuse. Nobody seems to want to stop the crazy train.

PADA: Yeah Bhagavan's kid told me he was going to convince Bhagavan to unblock me and discuss all this, but then the kid disappeared too. They caused all sorts of misery to all sorts of devotees. And some of the victims took their lives. For example, one woman burned herself to death with a can of petrol, etc. I would say, mistreating Krishna's own personal family members of bhaktas and bhaktins is like begging Yamaraja for a free train ride ticket to the burning pits of Hades. 

And yeah, I believe that is where they will go, but first the barking hounds of hell will bite their behinds badly -- as they travel to Yamaloka. They don't believe in any of this IMHO, they are atheists, or they never would have treated all these people so badly. One question from media people I get all the time, "how could they behave like this if they believed in the religion"? Right, same question they have to answer on Yamaloka. Vishvambar and Indradyumna were part of the Bhagavan team, but will we ever hear a detailed apology from these types of people? Probably -- not.

Someone said that another one of my brothers just left his body, and same thing, he never said anything about how the GBC were crooks and etc. Sorry, our time to speak up is when we are here, not on Yamaraja's planet. It is too late then.  

ys pd


Monday, July 29, 2024

Bhakti Vikas is a Skeleton / ISKCON women / Russia / Malati 07 29 24


This is where we belong. 
Who wants to belong here anyway?

Bhakti Vikas swami

LD: Bhakti Vikas was arrested in Russia. He needs to go "back home" of ignorant fanatics in India, where many people still think Sai Baba is God's avatar. Isn't he an ugly man?

BVKS says that we "Prabhupadanuga" fools are worshiping a dead skeleton. He himself looks like a skeleton. Wherever he goes, ISKCON turns into a dead skeleton. The temples are empty after his bogus guru show boat comes to town. 

He called a woman I know some bad names ... with no merit to that. Just envious I guess. And now that woman said, he is getting his karma, but she hopes he will eventually learn ... his bogus guru show is not authorized. We are worshiping a skeleton, WTF? But he is a skeleton, and his empty temples are the result of his skeleton disease.

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PADA: Yeah, women don't want to worship Kalakantha's illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara either, they are outta here too. ys pd

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PADA: Hee hee, yeah. 

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PADA: They'll stonewall Malati, so when they stonewall you, it is not because of you, it is because they avoid answering just about anything from just about anyone. It is the code of criminals, omerta, just stay silent. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 


Sunday, July 28, 2024

Bhakti Vikas Swami / Sad Military Review / Danavir 07 28 24

 

PADA: Putin looking a little sad at his military exhibition. "Can I just be somewhere else right now"? Sheesh already!

Yep, there they go off -- and 1,000 -- or more -- will be dead in 24 hours. And another 1,000 will be wounded, some missing hands and feet. But we just need to keep sending more and more of these brave soldiers into the wood chipper. No wonder people are calling this "a meat factory" "a slaughterhouse" etc. 

Srila Prabhupada says -- the leaders are responsible for the suffering of the citizens, and these mundane wars are causing great misery for many entities, including many hundreds of thousands -- or millions -- of animals who get caught up in the bombings, fires etc. 

And one can only imagine all the crying of the relatives, mothers, wives, daughters, women neighbors etc. of these soldier men -- who will never return. These women would no doubt be silently cursing Putin for taking away their men. Yeah I know it is all karma and all that, but according to the Vedic principle, no one is allowed to cause suffering to other living beings. And it looks like the people in Russia are being made miserable by their own leaders. 

A captured Russian was asked why he was out there on the battlefield, since he is 75 years old. He said he was not an actual solider, but a clean up crew body collector. And he was tasked with picking up the bodies. But he said -- there is no way he and his crew could keep up, there are too many bodies out there, and the dogs are often getting to them first. Then, there is the problem of a lack of refrigerated storage. This sounds to me more like a sort of horror movie rather than a nicely run military operation.

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BHAKTI VIKAS UPDATE

M Das (Russia news)

From the reports circulated by Russian disciples and followers of Bhakti Vikasa Swami:

"Russian government has banned non-citizens (foreigners) from preaching in Russia. His Holiness Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja was arrested at a Vaishnava festival. He was found Guilty simply for attending the festival, although he did not even give any lectures. Most likely, he will be deported next week. 

"At present, he is in a private prison cell with his servant. Devotees can bring him prasadam. Maharaja is reported to be happy and peaceful. All possible measures are being taken both at the GBC and political levels. Please pray that he will be released soon and leave the country safely."

The situation looks especially ironic precisely because the respected Maharaja has repeatedly sung the glory of Putin, called him a very qualified ruler, while the West called him a demonic spawn of materialism. And regarding Russia's invasion of Ukraine, he recommended all GBC ISKCON devotees to remain "out of politics" and absolutely neutral, since "it's all demons fighting demons."

PADA: It is the demons fighting the demons? That is a great advertisement to make as the public position of a GBC guru.

It is like the GBC guru wars, fighting over zones, re-initiating people, suppressing scandals, placing tantric curse on one another and etc. Hansadutta even had a "hit list" in his diary showing some of the other GBC gurus he wanted to have taken out. It is the demons fighting the demons?

GSD: More difficult is to be released from the jail of Maya, Srila Prabhupada said don't be allured by the Maya of being guru.

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PADA: Yeah when Danavir and Vipramukhya were ahead of me in the prasadam line, they were laughing at a photo of Jayatirtha in the BTG, they said -- he looks foolish for not having the other ten gurus in his photo, he should advertise all of them. They also said, if we had to have Jayatritha as our guru, we never would have joined ISKCON in the first place, we do not think he is worthy of our worship. When Vipramukhya came to Berkeley, he was giving people a pair of his orange socks to worship, and he had a young lady "secretary" who was massaging his feet. The good news is, he later on said he is getting sick whenever he takes another disciple, because he is taking karma, and he is right, he figured that much out. Of course that karma is still with him, he has not purified it off, and he will take it with him into the next life. ys pd




Paris Olympics? Or GBC meeting? Cannot decide? ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com


Saturday, July 27, 2024

Bhakti Vikas Arrested in Russia / Anuttama Writes / Guru Purnima 07 27 24


PADA: OK if let us review their plan: First, we make illicit sex with men, women and children into gurus; then we ban, beat, sue and assassinate anyone who disagrees; then we get many / or most of the children molested in our ill managed schools; voila -- the temples are empty and we can convert them into Hindu cultural halls!


But we need to have at least a few white bodied folks around to make our show look good, so we shift gears -- and go to Poland, Ukraine, Russia etc. and recruit people there, and send them mainly to India -- where no one knows our history.


Oh oh, then Ukraine and Russia go to war, and our big plans are not working there very much anymore. Our Ukraine devotees are being recruited, and our Russian devotees are also trying to avoid military service, and meanwhile -- Russia itself is not happy that some parts of ISKCON are favoring Ukraine. OK so that plan has basically fallen apart. Prabhavishnu just got booted out of Russia, and now BVKS goes there thinking he is smarter than the rest of them.


Hey, didn't anyone ever mention, now is the time to avoid and back pedal going there, and making a big scene, which attracts the attention of the government. Duh-oh, this is not a good idea. But when these same people are promoting the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as God's messiahs since 1978, most people say -- they are not very swift in the brains department.

Anyway yeah, kick all of them out of there, good idea. We don't want representatives of their homosexual and pedophile messiah's cult over there, get em out! So this is good news, they put most of their new operations in the Soviet and / or former Soviet states, and it is crumbling gradually. Meanwhile, more folks from these areas are -- reading PADA. ys pd

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ANUTTAMA DAS ISKCON   

Why ISKCON Needs to be on Guard Against “Cultic Behavior”

By Anuttama Dasa, ISKCON Global Minister of Communications | Jul 26, 2024

It has been almost thirty years since I first attended a conference of the American Family Foundation, now the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA). I was recently in Barcelona, Spain, for their latest international gathering.

What I’ve learned, both in those meetings and through my leadership role in the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), is that we in the Hare Krishna movement need to be concerned about “cultic behaviors.”

When I first attended the ICSA meetings, I found that many people thought in a simple duality: Organizations, and especially religious societies, are either healthy and benign, or dangerous and destructive “cults.”

However, the study of cults was evolving. Many concerned with the cultic phenomena were not just debating whether a group is a cult or not. They were studying interpersonal dynamics within groups to understand and measure cultic behaviors. In other words, they were finding that leaders of groups may manipulate and harm members—sometimes as an isolated case of abuse within an otherwise healthy organization. They spoke of a spectrum of manipulation, or what some called undue influence.

PADA: ISKCON is world wide famous for its policy of banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating dissenters -- well known in many mass medias already. And that is why in 1988 Lokanath swami said, the temples are empty ghost towns. 

Most people are simply not attracted to a violent homosexual and pedophile worshiping cult, at least not the intelligent and thoughtful folks. Yeah, that is why there has been an out-cropping of mental cases in the temples -- so the temples can cash in their social security check, and start an out cropping of Hindu congregation money collecting, but none of that is healthy or the original idea of Srila Prabhupada.

Leaders speak at ICSA Annual International Conference in Barcelona Spain. Conference participants in one of key sessions. 

ISKCON is certainly not a “destructive cult.” We are an ancient tradition, inspiring culture, and worldwide organization that makes phenomenal, positive contributions to the world. At the same time, I learned that ISKCON, like all human communities, is vulnerable to abuse of power and cultic behaviors. 

PADA: Oh swell, the GBC leaders are God's messiahs / successors / gurus, and the sum totals of the demigods residents of Vaikuntha, but they are subject to human defects, failures, or as Bhakti Vikas swami says "crashing like jumbo jets," which means their guru cadre are ordinary men. It is one of the ten offenses to consider the guru is ordinary. Worse, their gurus are prone to abusive and cultic behaviors. OK so they are not gurus. ISKCON keeps saying that their acharyas are falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, and who knows what else, which means, they are mis-representing who is Krishna and who are His successors.

And, as Srila Prabhupada taught, we are vulnerable to the flaws of personal and communal arrogance, which can breed abuse. “Unless one is humble and prideless, one cannot be harmless and nonviolent” (Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.7.37 Purport).

On the positive side, I know of no other tradition (among those that prioritize the guru-disciple relationship) that mandates its new members attend a multi-day course that includes warnings about what to do if their guru or leader ” falls” or succumbs to the temptations of elitism, power, sex, or other serious deviations.

PADA: Wow, so the GBC guru is an assistant of the gopis, a resident of Krishna loka, and simultaneously -- he is prone to 
the mundane temptations of elitism, power, sex, or other serious deviations. How can Krishna's successors have any or all of these deviations manifesting in them?

Conversely, new ISKCON gurus must participate in a special course that teaches principles of shared leadership, peer association, being open to feedback, and the dangers of power and prestige. Other ISKCON leadership courses also prioritize people-centeredness, servant leadership, and the empowerment of others.

On the managerial level, the ISKCON Governing Body Commission (GBC) has restricted and even expelled some leaders, including GBC members, GBC ministers, gurus, swamis, temple presidents, and others who have abused their power.

The above efforts all protect our members, but they do not guarantee that harmful group dynamics will not develop. I believe more needs to be done in ISKCON to avoid manipulative, dangerous, or cultic behaviors. It starts by gaining knowledge of how the problems fester.

ICSA Presentation on dangerous leaders. Social shunning, considered cultic by many, causes serious social and individual harm. What We Learn From Cult-Watching Groups

Below are some of the dangers that manifest when group dynamics become cultic. In short, within cultic groups, an inordinate amount of power is in the hands of a few without sufficient checks and balances, and those leaders misuse their power to manipulate and harm members. Below is a list of what to watch out for and fix:

Isolation.

Cultic communities cut themselves off from the rest of society. This means more than minimizing the negative influences and connections to an overly materialistic world, as all Vaishnavas (indeed all religionists) seek to do. Being overly isolated or separatist is dangerous because it creates a culture ripe for mistreatment and exploitation. In some unhealthy ISKCON communities, we have seen this include cutting devotees off from their families and / or the larger world of devotee association in the name of maintaining purity. It often includes insisting devotees only learn from or hear from their local leader, counselor, initiating guru, etc.

Us vs. Them Mentality.

Cultic behavior sees the world from a black-and-white, us vs. them mentality. The group believes that only they are right and that they are blessed with special insights into “the truth.” In the case of ISKCON, this may be expressed as claiming special insights into sastra or Srila Prabhupada’s teachings. Such communities declare the rest of ISKCON as ‘wrong.’ To preserve their perceived unique position, the smaller group binds tightly together to shut out all outside influences.

The leader is considered faultless and / or can’t be criticized.

In a culture such as ours where the “Guru is as good as God” (a scriptural adage meant to include instructing as well as initiating gurus), ISKCON is highly vulnerable to this cultic pattern where leaders, or their immature followers proclaim the leader is faultless. Srila Prabhupada said, “In my movement there are no big devotees, only small devotees.” That means that no leader is above appropriate critique and improvement.

No accountability.

Part of keeping any society healthy is ensuring that decisions are made public, finances are transparent, and reasonable questions are welcomed and responded to. (There may be rare exceptions regarding legal issues.) In cultic groups, secrecy is usually the norm.

Sexual norms are violated; rumors are not investigated.

Over the last twenty years or so, countless priests, rabbis, teachers, coaches, ministers, gurus, swamis, political leaders, business leaders, and others throughout the world have been exposed for sexual abuse of minors or adults under their shelter. Within cultic groups, sexual abuse has been prevalent and hidden for years.

Psychological and emotional abuse.

Members of cultic groups are often subject to psychological and emotional manipulation. This includes creating an emotional rollercoaster where everyone is kept in fear of the leader’s outbursts or harsh critiques and where the shunning of problematic members is enforced. Cultic behavior manifests in a culture of belittlement, criticism, and gaslighting.

Concentration of power.

Cultic behavior often concentrate power in the hands of the leader and a few of their inner circle. Every group needs leaders to make decisions and guide others. But in cultic groups, members are inordinately dependent on the leader to make decisions for them, often including personal decisions about health, relationships, occupation, spending of personal funds, etc.

Culture of Fear.

Cultic behavior exists in a culture of fear: fear of speaking out, fear of not fitting in, fear of the leader’s reprisal, fear of punishment, ostracization, or delegation to a lower status. We sometimes hear of ISKCON communities past or present, where fear became a factor of life. This is different from a healthy degree of fear of our own limitations or fear of reprisal for criminal or otherwise hurtful behaviors.

These are some of the major indicators of cultic behavior. I suggest they can serve as a checklist to measure our health as individuals and as communities. Where these behaviors are present, or worse yet, prominent, things must change.

Positive change starts with education about what can go wrong in communities and ensuring that integrity, transparency, and accountability are the expected norms of behavior. Leaders need to be willing to be held accountable, to follow proper Vaishnava behavior, and to exhibit genuine care and respect for those we oversee. Similarly, members need to contribute their time and energy to create healthy communities and to speak out in respectful ways when harmful conditions manifest. Where manipulative and abusive conditions exist, it is our duty to bring these problems to the attention of higher authorities to be rectified. Authorities must be proactive in addressing these problems and not ignore them out of a concern to avoid criticizing other leaders or in the name of Vaishnava etiquette.

While avoiding cultic behaviors, it is essential to understand what cultic behavior is NOT. Long-standing Vaishnava traditions such as offering obeisances to each other, worshiping Deities, chanting sacred mantras, serving the guru and other seniors, dressing in traditional attire, fasting, enthusiastically sharing our faith with others, and following regulative principles may be seen by outsiders as cultic. Clearly, these bhakti traditions are part of a historic religious practice, and they are beneficial to our personal and spiritual growth. They do not constitute cultic practices per se. However, if a leader uses these or any other aspects of Vaishnava culture as a means of manipulation, that’s a problem.

To better understand the dangers of cultic behaviors and to educate others about ISKCON’s positive aspects, as well as our strides in weeding out cultic behavior, I, as well as other ISKCON devotees, continue to attend ICSA conferences. We’ve spoken on multiple panels discussing our society, its strengths, and its shortcomings in an open spirit. 

While many ICSA participants—some of whom are former ISKCON members—remain skeptical about ISKCON and our commitment to avoiding harmful cultic behaviors, attending these conferences has been informative and, I believe, helpful to our society.

ISKCON has an important mission—to spread Lord Caitanya’s movement, promote “real unity and peace,” and help awaken love of God throughout the world. Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krishna are undoubtedly empowering us, individually and collectively, to carry out that mission. We must be careful that any such empowerment is not misused.

For additional information on this topic, please see the article “Cults, Psychological Manipulation and Society” by Michael D. Langone, Executive Director of ICSA (formerly the American Family Foundation), published in the ISKCON Communications Journal by clicking here. Photo by Engin Akyurt.

Tag: Community-life , Cultic-behavior , cults , Healthy-Organizations , ICL , ICSA , iskcon , leadership , opinion

PADA: Well ISKCON does all of the above and worse. 
Yeah a number of cult watch group members are former ISKCON people. That means they never got a voice in ISKCON and still do not, so they have to go outside. And so do we. Sorry, a society that worships deviants is a cult. And a dangerous one to boot. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com


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GURU PURNIMA


*1. Guru (Vyasa) Purnima― Appearance Day of Śrīla Vyasadeva*

*2. Disappearance Day of Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī Prabhupāda*

*3. First month of Cāturmāsya Begins*

Guru (Vyasa) Purnima― Appearance Day of Srila Ved Vyas. 

*His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (ISKCON Founder Acharya)―*

"Some devotees are getting all excited that today is Guru Purnima. Here's what Srila Prabhupada says about it:

Nobody can estimate the scholarly importance of Srila Vyasadeva. He composed many millions of Sanskrit verses and we are just trying to receive a fragmental knowledge out of them by our tiny efforts only. Srila Vyasadeva therefore summarized the whole Vedic knowledge in the shape of Srimad-Bhagavatam which is known as the ripened fruit of the desire tree known as Vedic knowledge. The ripened fruit is received hand to hand through disciplic succession and anyone who does this work in disciplic succession from Srila Vyasadeva is considered as representative of Vyasadeva and as such the bona fide Spiritual Master's Appearance Day is worshiped as Vyasa Puja. Not only that, the exalted seat on which the Spiritual Master sits is also called Vyasasana.

In the Mayavadi Sampradaya they observe the Guru Purnima day to offer respect to the Spiritual Master. This system of offering respect to the Spiritual Master is current in all sections of Vedic followers, but so far we are the Gaudiya Sampradaya is concerned, we offer on the Appearance Day of the Spiritual Master our humble homage annually and this particular auspicious moment is called Vyasa Puja."

*(Letter to Bali-mardana— Tokyo, 25 August, 1970)*

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*His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada(ISKCON Founder Acharya)―*

"I am glad to learn that you have performed the Guru Purnima ceremony by _kirtan_ that is all right. But this Guru Purnima is generally performed by the _Mayavadi_ sects. *The idea of _Guru Purnima_ is to offer gratitude to the Spiritual Master by the disciple once in a year.* That is called _Guru Purnima._ So far as we are concerned, _Gaudiya Vaisnavas,_ we offer all our gratefulness to the Spiritual Master on His appearance day ceremony, called _Vyas Puja."_

*(Letter to Gaurasundar ― Los Angeles, 2nd August 1969)*

Disappearance Day of Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī Prabhupāda*

*His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (ISKCON Founder Acharya)―*

"Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu wanted to accomplish many purposes through the exegetical endeavors of Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī. First Sanātana Gosvāmī compiled the book called Bṛhad-bhāgavatāmṛta to teach people how to become devotees, execute devotional service and attain love of Kṛṣṇa. Second, he compiled the Hari-bhakti-vilāsa, wherein he collected authoritative statements from scriptural injunctions regarding how a Vaiṣṇava should behave. Only by the endeavors of Śrī Sanātana Gosvāmī were all the lost places of pilgrimage in the Vṛndāvana area excavated. He established Madana-mohana, the first Deity in the Vṛndāvana area, and by his personal behavior he taught how one should act in the renounced order, completely devoted to the service of the Lord. 

By his personal example, he taught people how to stay in Vṛndāvana to execute devotional service. The principal mission of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu was to preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Mathurā and Vṛndāvana are the abodes of Lord Kṛṣṇa. Therefore these two places are very dear to Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and He wanted to develop their glories through Sanātana Gosvāmī."

*(Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta :― Antya-līlā: 4.81, Purport)*

*Beginning of the first month of Cāturmāsya*

*His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (ISKCON Founder Acharya)―*

"The Cāturmāsya period begins in the month of Āṣāḍha (June-July) from the day of Ekādaśī called Śayanā-ekādaśī, in the fortnight of the waxing moon. The period ends in the month of Kārtika (October-November) on the Ekādaśī day known as Utthānā-ekādaśī, in the fortnight of the waxing moon. This four-month period is known as Cāturmāsya. Some Vaiṣṇavas also observe it from the full-moon day of Āṣāḍha until the full-moon day of Kārtika. That is also a period of four months. This period, calculated by the lunar months, is called Cāturmāsya, but others also observe Cāturmāsya according to the solar month from Śrāvaṇa to Kārtika. The whole period, either lunar or solar, takes place during the rainy season. Cāturmāsya should be observed by all sections of the population. 

It does not matter whether one is a gṛhastha or a sannyāsī. The observance is obligatory for all āśramas. The real purpose behind the vow taken during these four months is to minimize the quantity of sense gratification. This is not very difficult. In the month of Śrāvaṇa one should not eat spinach, in the month of Bhādra one should not eat yogurt, and in the month of Āśvina one should not drink milk. One should not eat fish or other nonvegetarian food during the month of Kārtika. A nonvegetarian diet means fish and meat. Similarly, masūra dāl and urad dāl are also considered nonvegetarian. These two dāls contain a great amount of protein, and food rich in protein is considered nonvegetarian. On the whole, during the four-month period of Cāturmāsya one should practice giving up all food intended for sense enjoyment."

*(Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta :― Madhya-līlā: 4.169, Purport)*

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*His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (ISKCON Founder Acharya)―*

"Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu spent the entire period of Cāturmāsya [the four months of the rainy season] in the happiness of discussing topics of Kṛṣṇa with His devotees."

*(Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta :― Antya-līlā: 10.133, Translation)*

Thursday, July 25, 2024

Bangalore Court Case Update 07 25 24




Dayaram Dasa: Hare Krishna.

Dear devotees

Dandavats. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

MPD Bangalore case was heard by the Supreme Court on Thursday, 18 July, for 3 hours and today again for 3 hours. The Judges were in a hurry to close the hearing and our Senior Counsel, Sri. Krishnan Venugopal had to literally beg to grant him a few minutes to complete the points he was arguing on.

He couldn't argue for more than 30% of the points we had prepared for him to argue on. MPD's lawyer also was pushed to complete his arguments and I would presume that he also couldn't argue all the points he wanted to make.

Now the court has given 2 weeks' time to both sides to file Written Submissions of not more than 15 pages. And after that, the judgment will be passed. Kindly continue to pray and chant Narasimha Mantra at least 108 times everyday with sankalpa for complete victory.

Hare Krishna

Your servant
Dayaram Dasa

PADA: It is amazing that Dayaram wrote to tell me he agrees with PADA -- the GBC has been promoting homosexuals and pedophiles as its "Vishnupada" "good as God" acharyas. And yet self evidently, he still believes it is important to spend millions of dollars to establish that homosexuals and pedophiles are sometimes links in Krishna's guru parampara, and we need to surrender to the program that does that. 

As for Madhu Pandit's writing a 15 page summary of his case, PADA could summarize the the whole thing in a few sentences, at most -- one paragraph, i.e. homosexuals and pedophiles are not, were not, and could not have been, Krishna's guru successors, i.e. Jesus-like messiahs, as the ISKCON GBC has promoted since 1978. Nor should homosexuals and pedophiles be buried in samadhis in the dham etc. Any questions? Yeah, a media person asked me, "what is pedophile samadhi"? I dunno? Maybe we should ask the Supreme Court?

And thus if anyone, including this court, finds that illicit sex with men, women and children is to be established as part of "Krishna's eternal guru parampara," and as Jesus-like messiahs, we will have to expose anyone, including this court, as supporting deviations in the name of God and guru. Or, as Sulochana would say, anyone who supports the GBC is "a boot licker of the butt buggers." 

And that explains evidently why they -- don't and won't -- sue PADA either, heh heh heh, they cannot defeat this argument. And they never will defeat this -- because it is an eternal and absolute fact, deviants cannot EVER be linked to Krishna and His pure guru parampara chain. This is sinful and wrong, and will take the participants to hell in a hand basket. OK and looking at Jayapataka, it looks like he is almost there. 

Meanwhile another devotee was telling me how this is all like -- the Mahabharata -- all over again. Draupadi is AGAIN being insulted, by the Basu Ghosh / Bhakti Vikas swami / India ICC folks etc. -- and in this case Draupadi is de facto represented as ISKCON. And ISKCON / Draupadi is being linked to an illicit sex with men, women and children guru cult, which mass abuses children, even beats and rapes children, and bankrupts ISKCON, and murders dissenters etc. and so now we have to see who -- if anyone -- is willing to defend Draupadi from being insulted, discredited and assaulted by the Basu Ghosh pedo pooja program -- in her hour of need? 

And if no one comes to her defense, then all the parties who allowed her to be insulted and assaulted will have to pay the price of being compromised direct or de facto, and as enablers of the disrobing, attacking and assaulting of -- Draupadi -- aka same as ISKCON. Yeah, makes sense to me also. Anyway, let us see what happens. But India allows all sorts of deviants to pose as gurus, swamis, avatars, Durga's expansions, like Radhe Ma and who knows what else, and so the courts there are not very reliable on figuring all this out. If anything the courts of India are the last place to go if you want to distinguish asuras from the suras. 

And Madhu Pandit has not done a good enough job to make it clear enough in my opinion, so the courts can decide properly. He needs to take the gloves off and quit spending millions of dollars on these Hindu hodge podge compromisers in the India courts, evidently they have no clear idea what is the absolute truth. 

And for that matter, at least self evidently, they do not have the common sense us mlecchas have, i.e. homosexual and pedophile acharya / messiah clubs, which ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas, and cause mass raping of little kids etc., and are what Sulochana says are "a butt bugger messiah's club" are not fit to even enter the court room, get them out, bailiff -- have them removed and arrested forthwith. And they will all be arrested forthwith in the courts of Yamaraja eventually. And in Yamaraja's court they can answer Sulochana's point, "what is pedo pooja"? ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com 


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Prabhu there is no end to back and forth discussion on here. I didn’t send previous messages to everyone. I just commented on my opinion and if you don’t like then go on doing the way you are doing. After all you are individual soul and so as I and we both have our Karma. I simply suggest what should have been nice things to do. Other Vaishnav may like to respond if they wish what was wrong in my suggestion. Anyway let’s stop here and we will discuss in our next EC meeting. Hare Krishna

Devakinandan das.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 8:40.AM, Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) <

Basu.Ghosh.ACBSP@pamho.net> wrote:

Home Base: ISKCON Baroda

Camp: Newark, Delaware, USA

Dear Devakinandan Prabhu,

Namonamaha. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

Received your message:

Hare Krishna! I don’t want to get in between two of you Mahatma but it’s not what you do but how you do. We should have discuss this important matter in EC and EC combine should have send request letter to each DC chairmans privately to collect the dues. That would have been better. I also got call from my zone where some of TPs are unhappy that their temple name has been brought publicly on DC forum without discussing with them or knowing their pains and problem. Dayaram Prabhu said and you by passed the other EC members and send this letter. I strongly object of this. We know Dayaram prabhu is working very hard and we support him but he is also a member of Bureau .

Look at GBC communications, all the letters come with whole GBC EC not one person. So I my humble opinion you are taking law in your hand which is disturbing many devotees. So let’s discuss in our up coming EC meeting and there after go after we decide together. Hare Krishna

Devakinandan das.

You are appealing for this discussion to be limited to the Bureau EC members, and I appreciate your outlook. However, just consider that you have expresed your opinion to all India devotees, who are receivers of this. Why didn't you yourself follow your own advice and take this discussion to another forum? Since you did not do so, it must be answered here. If the aim is that there should not be conflict among devotees, fine. But that's not the feeling I am getting from your letter.

What you ought to be doing as a Bureau member and a zonal oversight authority is to work to obtain compliance from the centers in your areas that are overdue in their payments towards the Bureau's mandatory B'lore court case fees. Am I somehow mistaken in writing this?

What wrong have I done here to warrant a letter like the one you wrote, accusing me of "taking the law in your own hands"? Sounds to me more like the Hindi expression where the law authories are being chasised for doing their job!

"Disturbing many devotees". For what? Because I wrote them -- and made no threats (if I have done so, prove it!) -- and told them that "there are no excuses and no exemptions" for paying their dues for the court case. Writing that is "taking the law in your own hands" and "disturing many devotees"? How so?

If this is the logic, then kindly bring a proposal in the Bureau to reverse this "unfair taxation", and propose that we should abolish the Court case fees, and let whoever wants raise the funds to pay the lakhs of rupees fees charged by India's top lawyers! I have nothing to do with how the legal system works in India (and worldwide) where top lawyers charge massive fees that both sides in this dispute have been paying. We all know this.

No, instead of supporting this effort to get those temples who are not paying their dues to do so, you are belitting the effort that has brought in over Rs. 30 lakhs dues for the court case.

This is regrettable.

If you and a few others are "hot under the collar" because of this effort to get the temples to comply with the Bureau mandated policy, what can be done?

It is truely a thankless task!

dasanudas,

Basu Ghosh Das

Facebook: Basu Ghosh Das
WhatsApp: +91-94260-54308

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 5:00.AM, Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) <Basu.Ghosh.ACBSP@pamho.net> wrote:

Home Base: ISKCON Baroda
Camp: Newark, Delaware, USA

Dear Bhakti Vinoda Maharaj,

Yatibhyhonamaha. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

Received your message:

I am quite disturbed that you have picked on me specifically to make a rudely frontal attack, publicly, as your first step , without bothering to talk to me first and learn or address this to the Bureau body/ EC. Such an ad hominem attack , routed on purpose to the entire ISKCON leadership etc. is unwarranted and in very bad taste and is focused on maligning and calumny to say the least.

Maharaj, I can understand that you are upset. So be it. It seems that doing one's duty is a thankless task! Let the fact be known that you are falsely accusing me of attacking you personally. Maybe before you employed the latin words "ad hominem" you would have looked up it's meaning:

ad hominem: adjective (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining: vicious ad hominem attacks. This is not the case here whatsoever. No where in my letter did I attack your character!

My letter was respectful and therein I explained that the reason for adding all India leaders to the letter was to send a message: the message is clear that there are no excuses and no exemptions from paying the dues for the Bangalore Court case fees mandated by the Bureau.

It appears is that you are angry because you do not wish to comply with the Bureau resolution directing all temples to contribute to the Bangalore Court case fund? Maybe I am wrong, but that is my impression from reading what you wrote.

Further you have also accused me of slandering you by employing a synonym for the word "slander", i.e. "calumny".

Again the dictionary definition: calumny noun (plural calumnies) the making of false and defamatory statements about someone in order to damage their reputation; slander: a bitter struggle marked by calumny and litigation.

Kindly point out where in my letter I wrote "a false and derogatory statement"?

No, I did not stoop to accuse you of anything that was false, nor did I attack your character. I was advised by Dayaram Prabhu (as I wrote in the letter you have responded to) that you are claiming an exemption from paying the dues for ISKCON Coimbatore, and yes, you are not the only one doing so - and I "called you out" (challenged you to pay the Coimbatore dues) - on that and that alone.

My letter had nothing to say about your character, but yes, by claiming an exemption you are not setting the right example. Sure. I am forced to answer this in this forum, reluctantly though, to clarify myself. This is Part one of my response.

Excuse me if I will have to wash some dirty laundry which I cannot avoid doing. I dont know what the SIDC Chairman conveyed to you, Dayaram Pr / Basu Ghosh Pr . But here is the history and my reasons, also for the knowledge of all concerned, as to why I 'protested' about something, by not paying the fees, so that I could call for attention. 

FORMULA FOR CALCULATING FEE STRUCTURE. 1. Many years back I asked for the formulae used for assessing the payments to be done by each temple or centre, in the Bureau meetings. It was hushed down as not very important. After several such attempts finally I was given a note by the all India accountant. In my conversation with him he did give some formal explanation but it was not
satisfactory and did not answer my questions fully.

I pursued it further in other meetings and finally a committee was formed consisting of HH BPPS , Bhaktarupa Pr and others due to my insistence. When I made endeavours to have this meeting it was shot down in an email by Basu Ghosh Pr (Who was then the GS ) that such a committee should not function and was redundant. In other words he stopped it. It was strange, and I heard it was an independent decision he had taken without consulting the EC. 

It was frustrating to me as a trustee who was trying to ask questions and set right things as many others have repeatedly asked questions like : Why do we have to pay this? HOw is this calculated? How long will these cases take as its already 20 + years old etc. I had no answers.

Hmm. I was elected as GS just a month ago, so maybe you meant to type someone else's name? Because, in the past, I was never the GS!

I was quite frustrated and mentioned that I shall not pay the fees till the fee structure is discussed and amended accordingly as it was unfair especially on small centres and those doing projects. No one bothered much. The apathy was appalling . Everyone was busy getting their things done and there was no policy it seemed. For instance, some centres or entities like the TOVP were exempted from paying the BLR legal fees.....Why?

2. I asked why TOVP is exempted from paying fees and I was told because they are in the project construction stage and they had applied for exemption and I could also do so. I first informed the two GBC zonal secs asking for support and they said they were helpless and I need to ask the Bureau or some such lacklustre answer. The Bureau flatly denied or at least Basu Ghosh Dasa took it upon himself to do so. In other words it was not encouraging at all. No one knew what was happening or was pretending so... I lost my enthusiasm and thought it was necessary to call for attention by refusing to pay the fees. Hence my stand.

I am not against paying the fees.

Then kindly pay them!

I am against biased treatment of centres, suppressing information from trustees, and the methodology for calculating the fee. At least the committee should have operated and come back to the main body with findings.

3. Let me add humbly that, under the insistence of H H Jayapataka Swami Maharaj, and the Bureau, I represented the Bureau in the Bangalore lower court, the High Court and then in the Supreme Court against Arun Jaitley who was hired by MPD. It was two years of work day and night until I was asked to step out, as Dayaram Pr was taking over .... I did so . This is for your kind information. I am not new to understanding the legal side of this case . I did a major sacrifice of my time and energy although I was packed with travelling and preaching then along with inaugurating the Coimbatore centre, with the Prime Minister Vajpayee visiting the place.

PADA: Wow, I am working day and night to establish pedo pooja, that homosexuals and pedophiles are sometimes links in Krishna's guru parampara. All that -- so we can help along the program to ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas. And because that way we can also cause an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic among the society's children, as we have done. 

And now we are upset we did not get enough cases of that surgery, and people like PADA made it harder for us to be the cheer leaders of our pedo pooja / butt buster's messiah's program which we wanted to establish as "God's successors." I am working hard day and night -- as the hand maiden of the butt buggery messiah's club? Pedo pooja ki jaya sir! Jeepers, then they wonder why the Bay Area ex-kulis boycott ISKCON?

I desire victory for Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON Mumbai, in this fight, as I have been in it at one time and I know what it means. I sympathise with the devotees working on this. I am willing to do anything needed when asked. But I am unable to tolerate anymore being shut down on my enquiries, played around with, by suppressing information and given a condescending treatment by an old boys club in the Bureau. 

PADA: Wow, I am a defender of anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's clubs, but I don't get answers to my enquiries? OK, what is an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic guru parampara -- is the first question, isn't it? Amazing, I am working hard as the boot licker of the butt bugger's guru sampradaya, and I am not getting proper credit! Well you will, wait till Yamaraja gets a hold of you pedo pooja-ites and your anal reconstructive surgery epidemic sampradaya pals!

Hence, again, my stand.

I hope all of you will understand this in the spirit of doing things right in ISKCON India. I can explain this matter in more detail, in person to anyone who wants . You can call me . It's been a great endeavour for me to write this and I feel this could have been avoided and time saved. 

I request the EC of the Bureau to do the needful in addressing this and examining the action of BGD in his capacity as the GS. YS Bhakti Vinoda Swami

Trustee, Zonal Secretary - west TN & Kerala

PADA: Yep, all Madhu Pandit has to do is say -- we can expose your homosexual and pedophile "Vishnupada" pedo pooja guru program in Kerala -- and have you run out of town on a rail, and they would be ... and that is a fact.  

Maharaj, the fact is that you do not wish to pay the fees, while most of the other centers are doing so. Prove me wrong by paying the dues for ISKCON Coimbatore!
For your kind information the ToVP is NOT - NOT - NOT exempt from paying their share. Rather Mayapur CFO Akshay Ramachandra Prabhu confirmed that the ToVP is amalgamated into Mayapur's accounts, and he just made the payment -- due my efforts (that you are protesting vehemently in your letter and with false charges of attacking your character and slandering you).

PADA: Oh great, the TOVP, Mayapur, the citadel headquarters of their anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's programs!

Mayapur has just paid more than Rs. 20 lakhs that was due! I'm sending you separately the calculation of the court case fees for Mayapur that will show you how the calculation for all centers is being made by Mohan Govinda Prabhu of the Bureau office, (who is also the Chief Accountant at ISKCON Tirupati).

There is no secret here. The formula is the same for all temples. The total
collection of the temples is calculated and then the total expenses of the temples are calculated. Thereafter the total expenses are divided by the total collection to arrive at the proportion of the fees that are sanctioned annually by Bureau vote.

To conclude, what you have written is no excuse for ISKCON Coimbatore, or any other center of ISKCON in India for not paying their dues for the court case that yes, you personally handled, before doing so was handed over to Dayaram Prabhu so many years ago -- at least 15, if not more?! 

All loyal devotees of ISKCON share the hopes that ISKCON registered at Bombay during 1971 will "win" the case! We are all part of one team. 

PADA: Well that makes it simple for Yamaraja, we are all one giant homosexual and pedophile messiah's club team, and our messiahs engage in illicit sex with men, women and children, and anyone who objects will be banned, sued, beat up, or worse.

And all of the [homosexual pedophile messiah's club] members of the team are expected to contribute to that effort.

Yudhistir Govinda Prabhu, in his capacity as SIDC Chairman has been cooperating in this effort that I initiated to collect the dues for the court case just a couple of days back in response to Dayaram Prabhu's request to the members of the NBMC (New Bureau members committee - that you are a member of), and he has reported that a number of temples from the SIDC have paid due to his efforts.

He reported the following via WhatsApp:

[7/22/24, 3:11:59 AM] Yudhisthir Govinda Das:
Secunderabad - 1,24,500

Madurai - 1.12.700
Hosur - 5500
Karwar - 10,400
Tirunelveli has paid Rs. 60,100
15,700 sent from Periyakulam

Sri Rangam has paid
Trichy paid today as well.

Similarly NIDC Chairman Sundar Gopal Prabhu has been following up with NIDC temples, and his efforts have borne fruits! As mentioned earlier, ISKCON Kanpur paid Rs. 5 lakhs, and they have promised to pay the balance Rs. 6+ lakhs after Janmashtami. Some of the other temples are Gurugram, Aligarh, Ghaziabad and Bareilly. There are still outstanding amounts from a number of NIDC temples, and we will be following up with them.

WIDC temples are mostly paid up. Only the Mira Road temple owes a lot, the rest are small temples, and they all should pay their dues. In EIDC, Mayapur was the largest outstanding amount, and that has been paid in full. Bhubaneshwar and Patna have large amounts pending. 

In conclusion, I do not feel that an apology to you is in order, as I am "not guilty" of the charges you made, herein above. I have nothing against you and no "axe to grind". My efforts are to send the message to all temples in India who are working under the Bureau to pay their dues, nothing more, nothing less. The reason I added all the leaders is that you told the SIDC Chairman, who reported to Dayaram Prabhu, that you did not want to pay the dues for ISKCON Coimbatore.

So please, kindly consider that you -- and all of us -- are duty bound to pay the dues. To my mind, what you have written herein above does not justify not paying the dues. So please, have a rethink, introspect, and "do the right thing" and arrange for ISKCON Coimbatore's dues be paid to the Bureau office!

Thanks in advance for doing so!
Hare Krishna!
Hope this meets you well.

dasanudas,
Basu Ghosh Das
Facebook: Basu Ghosh Das

WhatsApp: +91-94260-54308

PADA: Do the right thing and help us promote our illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's pedo pooja club! It won't matter one iota if the GBC wins this court case, because more and more people believe their homosexual and pedophile guru parampara is evil and Satanic, and that process is increasing daily no matter what. ys pd

Tuesday, July 23, 2024

Kamala Harris' India Roots / Jadurani Health Crisis 07 23 24

 As Harris campaigns for US presidency, people in her mother’s native India are proud of her achievements (yahoo.com)

PADA: Different devotees send me adverts for their side of the politics world. I always hope for the best, for the USA's sake, and thus for my children's sake, but expect probably not the best is going to happen. I just don't see much positive going on in the politics of the USA, or much anywhere else around the planet either. 

Rather, it looks like the overall society is deteriorating. But hey, it is Kali Yuga, we just did not think Kali age would progress as fast as it is. I dunno, it is a mess all over -- in the weather, the pollution, the wars, the diseases, the crime waves, the back biting, the corruption, the egos of the leaders, the gun epidemic, and did I forget to mention -- the Kali-ized mess that is called ISKCON? 

Alas! I should not lament, that is my sentimentalism problem. What Krishna makes or allows to happen, is what happens. Full stop period. We cannot expect a smooth ride in our ten foot row boat -- on 45 foot waves -- in the middle of a typhoon. 

That being said, I hope Kamala does well if she becomes our leader, or anyone else becomes our leader. But it looks like an uphill push for whoever it is. It is interesting that she has some connections to India, but I am not sure how much that will impact things, if at all. Anyway I like the Kamala name, it reminds me of the song -- you are a teeny drop of water on a Kamala or lotus flower, and you will slip off at any second, you are not in a secure place anywhere in the material world. 

At the same time, we are gaining more Prabhupadanugas, so there is a little bit of relief on the horizon. ys pd  

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Dandavat Pranams dear friends and family, god brothers and sisters, well wishers of all types!

All glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga...

We are writing here to share some updates about our beloved Srimati Syamarani Didi's health. This is a fundraiser to facilitate her having a 3 week immersion at a wellness retreat center to help her recover from many months of exhaustive service.

As most of you are aware, Srimati Syamarani Didi has suffered from poor health since her teenage years. With her unrelenting attachment to serving her spiritual masters and her unwavering commitment to Vaishnava sadacar, it is common for her health to take a dip after we host a preacher or have a festival.

This summer we actually had a festival every week for 8 weeks straight! From the beginning of May until the beginning of July, we served 10 sannyasi preachers in succession, sometimes with no gap in between!

While Didi generally can find a few days to rest, this merciful constant flow of sadhu sanga obligated her continued presence without any break. Additionally, by that level of open accessibility which she has maintained for decades, she's become a sought advisor for both spiritual challenges and exceptionally mundane problems for many devotees. Her compassion has compelled her to always lovingly support even when the mental and emotional toll was mounting.

Without a break, she has now come to the point of complete exhaustion. 10 days at the beach with only her Japa mala has yielded less results than previously achieved in only 2 days! This led to a paramount concern by her Sevaks and after discussion it was concluded that we must arrange a professional wellness sabbatical.

Given this decision, by the mercy of our Guru Varga we are located quite close to a nationally renowned facility - and the employee tour guide had even visited our center previously! Beginning on Guru Purnima, July 21st, she entered into a 3 week wellness recovery program at this facility. Vasanti Didi has been given carte blanche permission from the facility to coordinate prasadam in line with their prescribed diet and is residing there with her as well.

As you can imagine, this is not a cheap endeavor. Total expenses are looking to exceed $30,000 USD. While Didi had considerable savings from her art book and memoirs, she invested the vast majority into the preaching and temple efforts here in Miami.

Because of her natural humility, she's actually forbidden us from asking for any help. However, our love for her and our hankering to have her association for many more years does not allow us to accept this instruction, which is actually only a manifestation of her humble mood.

If she has touched your life in some significant way and it gives you great pleasure to see her around and healthy for decades to come please share this message with all devotees you know.

We accept that all Lakshmi is with Krsna and that Krsna is with Didi. Thank you for reading this and we appreciate the overwhelming shower of love, prayer, and donations in advance

Praying fervently to forever be engaged in visrambenah guru seva,

The SVA Seva Team

PADA: First of all, I like Jadurani personally and wish her well. She did a lot of service making art for Prabhupada's books. She also told me confidentially she has to take shelter of the Narayan Camp since she has no place in ISKCON. After all, she was physically assaulted at New Vrndavana and Los Angeles as well, by ISKCON temple thug ladies. 

As one devotee was telling me today, almost all the temple thugs were harassing if not beating up the people who were opposing the abuse program, so they were basically warriors for Satan.

Anyway, she is now with the Narayana group, but we don't think that he was a bona fide saint. Nor do we think she and the other leaders or sannyasis in their group should be acting as diksha gurus and taking karma etc. Nor do we think Narayana Maharaja's giving "rasika classes" to the Tamal gopi bhava club was a good idea, considering that we think Tamal is the Judas of ISKCON and not a fit candidate for gopis and rasika. 

OK so now she is where she is, and her health is not good. Unfortunately, most of the people who take karma end up with problems, whether ISKCON or Gaudiya Matha gurus. I don't think she should be promoting conditioned souls as gurus, and promoting them at her ashram etc. giving them her stamp of approval and authority.

All that being said, we wish her health to improve and we hold no grudges against her personally. She did try to arrange a meeting with me and Narayan Maharaja. I came all the way to their ashram, and she was shuttling back and forth trying to get me into the room. NM cancelled our 830 am, 1030 am, 230 pm, and at 530 pm Jadurani was actually crying -- telling me -- NM has left the property. She was very heart broken and disappointed over this. He did not want to see me, and so he never did, and she knew this was bad. 

Anyway, if people can help her out, that is fine with me. At some point I wish she would make a statement, NM is bogus and he supported the Judas of ISKCON and he was wrong, but hey, once people are stuck in their system, they sometimes cannot escape. 

Almost all of the GBC's gurus reported eventually having heavy mental and / or physical break downs, and it looks like, she is following in their footsteps. Yeah, she should take care of herself and not help a false society full with false gurus and / or their hand maidens and enablers. Getting her away from that system is a good idea actually. I hope she learns from all this.

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Monday, July 22, 2024

Bhaktavasya's Book / Jayatirtha 07 22 24

FROM HENRY DOKTORSKI:

Different Kind of Life: Bhaktavasya's Story: Devi Dasi, Bhaktavasya: 9798332766930: Amazon.com: Books

An excerpt from Bhaktavasya dd's excellent book:

Jayatirtha as Christ wasn't too much of a stretch for me at the time. For years in Iskcon it had been said in classes and amongst each other "If Jesus came back again, he would be a Hare Krishna" or that Jesus would take birth in the Hare Krishna movement. Prabhupad said that Jesus was a shaktavesh avatar, or a human being who is empowered by Krishna to deliver humanity.

PADA: We said that some of these GBC gurus had been direct or de facto creating the impression they are another Jesus, for example they are diksha gurus who can absorb sins, and we keep seeing references to that process repeatedly. So, while the GBC are like Jesus, the ritviks are bogus for making Prabhupada into another Jesus. OK they are replacing Prabhupada.

"He is the representative of Lord Chaitanya", from my recent LSD trip, was still fresh in my mind. I went to seek out the representative of God, who was sitting at the edge of the swimming pool, swishing his feet in the water. I told him about my LSD trip in Vancouver, mentioning that I'd had previous experience before coming to Iskcon. 

He seemed to come alive, nodding his appreciation of my enthusiastic retelling. I told him that I'd brought some 'sacrament' with me and asked if he would like to share it. He suggested we go to his room to ensure privacy.

PADA: Right, Jayatirtha was calling intoxicants "sacraments," even "Radha's feet dust," and he was telling people he is going to introduce the teachings of his original guru, Timothy Leary (LSD guru).   

His room was the only one that was carpeted, surrounded by partially stained glass windows. His sannyas danda stood in a corner; I had told him about my secret sannyas initiation so it would be like 2 sannyasis experimenting together; very serious, renounced, non-sexual. We split the blotter, sitting across from each other, separated by about a meter. Closing my eyes, I felt my body melt, the waves of sensual joy rushing through.

PADA: Sometimes LSD comes on a card or paper "blotter."

We both ended up on the floor, our bodies entwined around each other, spontaneously kissing each other's skin, neck, feet. Staying like that for what seemed like a long time, we each made an attempt to sit back up in a meditative position, swaying and bending until we magnetically were drawn back into the lovers embracing mode again. 

PADA: Yeah, sex, drugs, rock and roll, Timothy Leary and -- another Jesus. What could go wrong here?

He was whispering "I love you" and "You've come at last". Somewhere in my mind I felt a lazy sense of panic. “Gotta get out of this position. Is this Maya? We're supposed to be sannyasis.”

I started to crawl towards the door and the bathroom. I couldn't tell if I had to pee or was feeling orgasmic. He was apologizing, asking me to forgive him. I stretched my arm out towards him, inviting him back in for another hug. "It's okay. I just have to go to the bathroom." He took my hand, started to kiss it again and brush it up against his face, which seemed wet from sweat or tears. 

Too much emotion.

"You're not upset with me?" he wanted to know. More rushing, feelings of love, empathy. "No, I love you." I answered. Somehow I made it to the bathroom, with a strong urge to have a bath once I saw the tub. I did neither, pee or take a bath that is, laying up against the tub, my mind rushing as if in a drunken state.
After a while I could hear him out in the back yard, calling his followers together for the news. 

"Mother has come at last!" he said. I wanted to curl up in a ball and fall asleep on the bathroom floor but I knew I had to rise up and go outside to face the music. The emotions were too strong for me to sort out. A combination of fear, like a fear of heights, honour, as if I had suddenly been elevated to divine status and happiness that bordered on giddiness.

I mustered up the strength to get up off the floor, wet my face with water from the gushing tap at the sink, try to pee (do something normal). I felt like I was floating, surrounded by a brilliant aura of light, as I descended into the back yard.
The reactions of the followers were mixed; Navanita, back from his painting sales, looked elated, his hands pressed together in respect and awe. 

Nama looked bewildered, confused. Kev was watching Jayatirtha, cautiously, like a doctor observing a patient in a state of delerium. He disappeared into his hut when he saw me, saying something about 'consulting the I Ching about this'. 

I would soon find out that Jayatirtha and Kev consulted the I Ching several times a day, over any major and minor decisions. I followed him into the hut, wanting to escape from the spotlight and curious about what the Great Teacher had to say about this startling development. Being only vaguely familiar with the book of changes, I Ching, I didn't know whether it was the oracle or Kev who concluded I was ‘a wild card, could go either way' after the reading, which I was too stoned and too in love (I couldn't distinguish which it was) to take seriously.

Jayatirtha, who had followed me in, just smiled and filled his pipe with the holy benediction. Kev shook his head, eyeing me with suspicion. I had a vague impression that he might be feeling left out because he wasn't sacramented like Jayatirtha and me. As the day wore on, Jayatirtha said I should have a sannyasi name. He chanted some mantras, which I assumed were special sannyas initiation mantras, sprinkled a few drops of water on my head and pronounced my new name; Bhakti-hrdoye Tirtha. The meaning, he said, was 'one who has bhakti or love for Tirtha in her heart (hrdoye).

I felt a jolt go through me. "I know no-one but Krishna as my Lord.." (Sri Sikshastakam). Navanita was christened "Francis," after St. Francis of Assissi, with a similar sprinkling of water on the head. Kev and Nama had vanished, he into the bhajan kutir and she into the house to cook dinner. The name 'Francis' stuck, whereas mine got shortened to Bhakti. Mother Bhakti. As Jayatirtha and I stole a kiss beside a desire tree in the yard, he pronounced us spiritual husband and wife; Bhakti and Vijay Tirtha.

PADA: And Krishna "was a guru in our line" and so was Jayatirtha? Yikes pilgrims. ys pd 

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Sunday, July 21, 2024

Lokanath Update / GBC Begs for Legal Funds 07 21 24

 Lokanatha should have been a registered sex offender ...



GBC BEGS FOR LEGAL MONEY

Akshay Ramachandra Prabhu, the CFO of ISKCON Mayapur, just informed me that
he has "paid in full" Rs. 20+ lakhs, for the B'lore Court case fees! If Mayapur can pay, every ISKCON center under the Bureau can pay. Simple logic. No exemptions. No excuses. (Mayapur owed the most! Rs. 20+ lakhs
is major amount!).

ISKCON Kanpur just deposited Rs. 5 lakh and have promised to pay the balance
of Rs. 6+ lakhs after Janmashtami. This is acceptable. But paying the fees is compulsory for all ISKCON India centers. Please comply. Thanks!

dasanudas,
Basu Ghosh Das

Home Base: ISKCON Baroda
Camp: Newark, Delaware, USA

Dear Bhakti Vinoda Maharaj,

Yatibhyonamaha. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

Dayaram Prabhu just reported to me that you are refusing to pay the fees for the Bangalore Court Case for ISKCON Coimbatore. He reported that you told SIDC Chairman Yudhishtir Govinda Prabhu that you are dealing with "X" number of court cases, so you don't feel the need to pay the fees. This is your excuse for not paying the fees, it seems.

The Excel Speadsheet chart compiled by the Bureau office team for the SIDC shows that ISKCON Coimbatore owes Rs. 4,95,600/- in fees for the past year. Fees are being assessed for ALL ISKCON temples in India according to the income of the individual temple. This was agreed to by the Bureau and was voted on and passed.

Maharaj, there are no exemptions given by the Bureau for paying these fees to any temple. Mayapur and Vrindavan are also assessed and are expected to pay the fees. There are many temples that have litigations pending and they are dealing with them. The Bureau has not given any of them exemptions towards paying the fees.

I do recall that during the pandemic, back during 2020 when there was a totaly lockdown, Mayapur was suffering a total collapse of income, and at that time the late Bhakti Charu Maharaj and other MEB members raised funds internationally to help Mayapur meet it's financial commitments.

On the other hand Dayaram Prabhu mentioned that ISKCON Coimbatore has some CRORES of Rupees in fixed deposits in the bank! Maharaj, in view of all of the above, and in view of the fact that you are a Bureau member, kindly consider that it is a duty and obligation -- what to speak of being "the need of the hour" -- that you arrange to pay this rather small amount of Rs. 4.95 lakhs, to clear the pending fee for the court case from ISKCON Coimbatore.

There is also the logic of "yad yad aacharati shreshtas". If you refuse to the pay the fees for ISKCON Coimbatore, others will themselves make excuses and claim exemption from paying the fees. Please do introspect and do the right thing and pay the fees at the earliest.

No temple is exempt from paying the fees. Kindly consider. Hope this meets you well. dasanudas, 

Basu Ghosh Das General Secretary ISKCON India Governing Council (Bureau)

Cc. to all ISKCON India leaders as a notice that they are ALL expected to pay their court case fees as assessed by the Bureau office team as per Bureau resolution. There are no exemptions. Further, this is a humble request to all of you to please pay promptly. Thanks for doing so. If you need to know how much you are expected to pay, then contact your respective DC Chairman and ask him to send you the Excel spreadsheet showing the amount due from the centers in your DC. The Excel spreadsheet was posted in the WIDC and NIDC email conferences, and by SIDC Chairman Yudhishtir Govinda Prabhu in the SIDC conference (he reported).


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PADA: OK as soon as we had the GBC sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, including not feeding their school children properly, the GBC launched what is evidently a $20,000,000 lawsuit against the directors of Bangalore's Akshaya Patra -- a charity that feeds millions of children. And some of the GBC people said "we need to put the directors in jail." Oh great, you are being sued for not feeding children, so let us spend another $20M to make sure we can stop feeding even MORE children. 

It never ends with these folks. And Prahlad, HKC Jaipur and Kailasa ilk are infuriated we helped Bangalore with documents -- to help their case, which has left the GBC unable to make a win. All of these "let us keep children starving" folks stick together! I forgot, there was all sorts of other mistreatment going on, improper food was just the tip of the iceberg.

Yeah, they sent Bhakti Caru over here to collect for their lawsuits, and he ended up getting fatally sick and leaving his body. And he looked sort of bewildered, in anxiety, and even scared, in the last photos they took of him. Perhaps he was starting to realize that his promoting an illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club; that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas; is not a good plan. Like seriously, is there anything else they can do to further infuriate the Yamaduttas? And then some Bengalis were upset that they dragged his toxic body back there to pollute the holy dham.  

We only had Krishna's devotees banned, beaten, molested, sued and -- killed, what is the problem? OK the first problem is, Srila Prabhupada says Krishna will judge us by the way we treat His devotees. 

I got news for you guys, you are not going to win this issue by spending millions and millions in court. You have lost the hearts and minds of the Vaishnavas, and you cannot get them back for trillions and trillions of dollars worth of lawyers. The Vaishnavas are done with you guys. 

Someone from India chastised me --  I am like the Western Christians, who want to promote a pure devotee as the acharya. Well yep, just look at ISKCON, it is a ghost town. People here have no interest in worshiping a predator like Lokanath, or his enablers, and they NEVER WILL. So we either get on board with the plan to worship the pure devotee or ISKCON will continue to deteriorate into a Hindu hodge podge. Even Ravindra swarupa said that these new age programs are philosophical "ghoulash." Agreed. 

So I dunno what to say, the GBC keeps thinking that tossing buckets of cash at the feet of lawyers will give them credibility. It's not. It is just making them look more like politicians, businessmen, bullys and gangsters all the more. 

But this is good news, their legal funding process is having renegades quitting their payments. Maybe their laywers just want another $1,000,000 and Jayapataka was asking for funds just before they sent Bhakti Caru here. But is there $1,000,000 to help the gurukula victims, the elderly, the women collectors who gave tons of money and are now poor, to start cow farms and varnasrama? Well nope. 

Meanwhile there has been all sorts of rioting in Bangladesh, it is not going well for that place, and it is no wonder because of all these offenders going on there. The temples of India should BOYCOTT sending any more money to the GBC. Use that money to care for devotees and not lawyers. 

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