VP Dasi: Sri Narasimha Bhagavan Ki Jai. Srila Dearest Gurudev Ki Jai.
Sri Sri Radhe Krsna please bestow all Your mercy and blessings upon our Dearest Gurudev who is suffering due to our sins. We love our Gurudev who is always merciful and kind to all of us. Haribol.
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His condition has deteriorated after the surgery and he is going back for an emergency operation. Please pray for his well being and recovery!
[PADA: Wait! Many ISKCON people keep telling me that no, the GBC's gurus are not saying they are absorbing sins (like Jesus). Yet time / after time / after time / after time, we see messages from their followers saying their guru is falling down, getting sick -- or even dying -- from taking their disciples' sins. OK that makes them supposedly -- equals to Jesus, i.e. they can absorb the sins of others.
Except! When did Srila Prabhupada say that 11 of his followers, or ANY his followers, are as good as Jesus -- and they can absorb the sins of others? Not what he said. He said the direct opposite -- if his followers take sins from others they are going to get sick, fall down or both (or die) because they ARE NOT AUTHORIZED to take sins, because they are NOT equals to Jesus.
Some people say that we are harping too much on this issue, maybe so. But we keep seeing example after example where this principle is not being understood.
At the same time, shastra says false gurus have to go to the most obnoxious regions -- and now we know why.
They are taking at least a partial load of sins from dozens, hundreds, or maybe thousands of other people, and they are over-burdened with these sins. So they will have to work hard in Yamaraja's coal mines for a long, long, long time to clear off those sins. How long? Srila Prabhupada says one little mistake can cost us millions of years, and set us back a long time, what to speak then of wholesale deviating for a lifetime.
Sorry! People cannot make pretend they are another Jesus, then pray to Krishna to fix their false claims. At the same time, we hold no grudge here. They wanted to absorb sinful karma from others, which includes: maybe eating thousands of hamburgers; one, two or more abortions; maybe a murder or two; and who knows what else, and they did absorb some, part, or a lot -- of that karma.
Now they have to pay the Piper. I could be angry at them, but why bother? They are doomed by dint of superior powers than me. Now they are going to have to account for all the karma they accumulated. Meanwhile imitating people like Jesus is a severe aparadha all by itself. And they will have to pay for that too. And in addition they have to really pay heavily for all their program's banning, beating, molesting, suing and murders that their bogus guru's program has generated against the devotees of God.
Bhakti Chaitanya swami is also another famous waffling flip-flopper on the issue of whether or not a pedophile can take the post of guru. As Sulochana says "I would not trade my past two billion years of bad karma for one minute of their future karma."
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Being a karma vacuum cleaner does not work for a conditioned soul, never mind
a deviated conditioned soul.
The good news is that Bhakti vikas swami told this guy to take thousands
and thousands of people's karma, so he got away with less for himself.
The bad news is, BVKS is going to get horrific karma for promoting these things.
LW: They are going to be in for a big surprise when they get to Yamaraja, after being bitten by Yama's dogs all the way there.
ReplyDeleteNo, you are not another Jesus.
Yes, you have to pay for all the karma you took. Yes, you have to pay for all the evil you made out of ISKCON ... by having all the Prabhupada devotees removed ... or beaten ... or molested ... or molested, starved AND beaten ... AND maybe killed. This is all on your karma load.
And then your own karma is also not fixed. You'll have your own karma not fixed, the karma of your disciples, your karma of destroying the lives of thousands of Prabhupada's devotees, and your karma of destroying ISKCON ... and making it into a Hindu cash business hall. You'll get both barrels and then another both barrels of karma.
It is amazing they think they can just get away with all this forever. Wow I get it now! Why people keep saying they all have to die. They are never going to realize they are not another Jesus, until they meet the agents of the real Jesus.
I feel bad for them. Jesus said a long time ago, "forgive them Lord, for they know not what they are doing." But then we wonder ... how could they not know? ISKCON has been going downhill the whole time ... they probably know more horror stories than we do.
They just do what they do ... because they do not care about anything but themselves? It seems that is the only answer. Oh too bad! He was making his retirement home in Durban ... so he could keep his blood sucking off the society forever. Maybe that is not going to happen ... because Krishna has another plan. Maybe you will be retiring in the bogus Jesus planet especially made by Yamaraja for you clowns.
How can someone be so foolish as to think he can absorb sins like Jesus? And why would ISKCON promote these false Jesus ... unless they ALL want to cash in on their false guru business.
These poor followers think they are having their sins taken. Very sad they exploit others for their retirement building in Durban, that they have to give up anyway, and leave here. This is some part ignorance, major part arrogance. We hate to see them go! Right! Just kidding!
"If you minimize his suffering now, that does not mean he will not suffer. He will suffer next life."
ReplyDeletePrabhupada : A man suffering from certain disease or certain miserable condition, they want to ameliorate [to make better] it. This kind of sympathy is not sanctioned. He should suffer so that the reaction of his sinful activities in the past life should be diminished. If he does not suffer, then he will have to suffer more, continue, because he is condemned to suffer so much. If you minimize it now, that does not mean he will not suffer. He will suffer next life.
M Dasi: We hear this too. Guru Maharaja is suffering ... all because of you! You gave him your karma ... so now he has to suffer. You are the problem. He is not the problem. This is called ... shifting the blame to the victims.
ReplyDeleteYou are the victim. But you are to blame for the suffering of the victim-makers. Very clever. It might work with some small bogus cult ... or sect of ignorant fools ... but will never be accepted by most intelligent people. They used to advertise scholars and college people are joining.
Not any more! Now they might get a few Hindus to make a little program on Sunday, otherwise it is dead as a doorknob. The Hindus are only coming for a program sometimes ... they are not going to give up their job and join. This is a guru business.
They don't realize that making a business of being a bogus Jesus might make them some money in this lifetime ... but it makes a few billion years bad karma in the next many, many many lifetimes. They just do not believe in the laws of karma ... because they do not even believe there is a God.
If there is a God ... then He would not allow fools to pose as gurus without severe punishing. Therefore ... there is no God ... so we can pose fools as His gurus and there is no punishing because there is no God. This is simply not going to work. There is a God ... and if you make God angry ... you will suffer for a long time. End of story.
Look at all the abandoned dogs and cats for example at the end of our street ... they all suffer badly ... they were acting like rascals in another life and now they are punished. These gurus will find themselves in this type of state ... they will be suffering ... and no one will care ... just like they made us and many others suffer ... and they did not care. Karma is a b*tch isn't it?
Hare Krishna / Dandavat pranams / All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
ReplyDeleteMaharaja remains intubated but they are planning to wean off sedation and if all goes well they will extubate Maharaja by this afternoon. He is currently on dialysis. His vitals are normal and looking promising overall.
02/05 Dear devotees, Dandavat pranams. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Maharaja has developed a fever this evening. He has been screened for sepsis and his antibiotics have been changed.
ReplyDeleteHe remains intubated on minimal settings. He is still on dialysis.
Please continue praying. Your servant, D dasa