PADA: Many devotees, both seniors and younger ones, have been getting cancer and other fatal ailments on a regular basis. My friend is a nurse and she says, ISKCON has a cancer epidemic. I have been posting cancer "fund me" cases on my blog for years now, there are many, many cases happening. My nurse friend also thinks, there is a psychological component to all these cases. She calls it "the lack of will to thrive." Anyway, we should pray for these victims. I got this report but am not sure of the details ... ys pd
May be an image of 1 person, eyeglasses and text that says 'DEAR DEVOTEES, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CHANT LORD NRSIMHA PRAYERS & HARE KRSNA MANTRA FOR OUR BELOVED MADI DASA PRABHU. YESTERDAY AUSTRALIA TIME Dear friends and family, our darling Madi AKA Joe/Johannes has been diagnosed with aggressive stage bladder cancer. He having urgent surgery tomorrow 1:30 pm Melbourne time. Please send your prayers and wishes that the cancer as not spread and he recovers quickly. Much love.'
SF DASI: I noticed the same thing - devotee community with most cancer deaths. Never seen anything like it.
WD: I feel it has a lot to do with all those chemicals in food, water and skies as well as 5G frequencies!
SF DASI: I feel it has to do first of all with bad chemicals all banned everywhere else in the world but not in India. There are chemicals in rice and other food.That includes DDT. But overall, for devotees, most of all their sickness and death is from stress.
PADA: Except the mundane people eat way more processed foods and chemicals than devotees, so they should be having an early death epidemic, not the devotees. My nurse friend specializes in end of life care, she says the materialists are out-living the devotees by wide margins. ys pd
WD: Hmm... Whose disciples are they? All Prabhupada's direct disciples or someone else?
PADA: All categories …
WD: Vaccines?
PADA: This was going on years ago, and besides everyone else has the vaccine, so nope, not a physical cause my nurse friend said … she said many years ago "lack of will to thrive" is her estimation.
MD: Oh no! When was this posted??
WD: You had me wondering hard.
VMD: Yes especially commercial milk contains antibiotics, steroids, steroids, growth hormones, other toxins in their food and cows are given up to 12 different vaccines a year. No one seems to complain about the vaccines they get via milk. Hopefully Ahimsa milk does not contain all this dangerous carcinogenic stuff.
GM: That nurse is totally right. My first client in the field of psychotherapy was a beginning devotee who had such an avalanche of trauma, that she fell into a deep depression and got a brain tumor. After a single session (Timeline therapy) she did not come back, but many years later I found she had been doing the Timeline therapy by herself for two years. The tumor was gone.
SF DASI: So many devotees with that particular issue, tumors, cancer too. So sad but it is a fact.
GM: There is a way out. Brave enough to become one who can bring about the changes in this particular point?
SF DASI: Devotees need more affirmative action. I have been mainly keeping and collecting "historical chronicles." My self, as a highly sensitive person - as soon as I started associating with ISKCON, naturally I suddenly became extremely sick. Starting with -- a life threatening hospital stay. I almost died. All after only few sessions with their psychological manipulation experts. Some of them -- high spirtually held positions in ISKCON. I think I 'll have PTSD for minimum next 3 lives from that association with them.
GV: I can share what will help you digest the past traumas, and acquire more spiritual strength. Just need to gather a small group of other interested devotees for a short series of online meetings.
WD: I've been enjoying your FB comments for a while now so please sign me up for your sessions.
VMD: It may be that Iskcon has a cancer epidemic but the whole world has one too. I remember way back when they said that one in five people will get cancer in their lives and it wasn’t easy to cure. Then it went down to one in three. These days its one in two but easier to cure. People who join cults often are anxious and sensitive types and may be extra prone to psycosematic illnesses. But we cannot deny the effects of our modern world on them. We live in an increasingly toxic world.
Srila Prabhupada died with all the symptoms of long term, untreated diabetes. He was diagnosed with that just weeks before in the UK. Though he knew he had it from the 60’s. I was often in his room upto 2 weeks before he passed. The Ayurvedic kavirajs were clueless and he was still drinking sweet milk. I think there is quite a lot of cover up or denial about it. No one wants to admit that the HK diet is unhealthy and that India is the world capital of Diabetes.
Many devotees prefer to think that Prabhupada was poisoned rather than think he died from a common and curable disease. Which the Kavirajs didn’t mention and wanted him to take Makhdwaj and crushed pearls. When Metformin actually works quickly. If there is to be an investigation into Prabhupada’s death, and there should be, the kavirajas should be prime suspects in any foul play. As far as I know Obesity and Diabetes are also above normal in the HK movement.
Taking all into consideration joining a cult is a very dangerous thing to do.
PADA: Srila Prabhupada's hair sample had large quantities of arsenic and cadmium. And there was a discussion about poisoning him going on in whispers according to the four audio forensic laboratories that made enhanced versions of the November tapes. And no one wants to discuss that. What the Kaviraja (Dr. Kurana) believes is, there was intentional poison. The other kaviraja found blood and bone marrow in the urine, and he too said this is heavy metal poison. The kavirajas were not able to control the situation, and they were afraid for themselves, and so were the devotees who were aware of the situation (and one of them is the person who got me copies of the November tapes). ys pd
VMD: I think most people are aware by now that Indian soil and ground water, especially in Vrndavan and Mayapura is heavily contaminated with Arsenic and Cadmium. The most recent research shows that hair samples taken from local people are massively above safe levels. As are deaths from Cancer. I’ll try to find a recent link by devotees who live in Vrndavan.
PADA: So these people around him are discussing in whispers about poisoning him, for what good reason? ys pd
VMD: The kavirajs made no mention of Diabetes though he had all the symptoms. Weight loss, malnutrition, neuropathy, renal failure, appetite loss, morbidity, desire to die. He didn’t need to be given poison, he was about to die from diabetes. But yes he had heavy metals in his system and was still taking sugar. Poison to Diabetics. Heavy metals would be normal. The Kavirajs are guilty by ignorance. I’ve heard all the audio. It’s virtually in inaudible. Not proof at all.
PADA: The audio was enhanced by four professional audio forensic labs, and they made the transcripts. The labs work for the FBI. And the FBI in Gainesville listened to the tape and said this would be made into a felony murder case if it had happened here. The tape is very audible, they are discussing poison, poisoning gurus etc. and the whispers are just part of the overall discussion. Apart from that, no other persons have these levels of heavy metals in their system, even if they are drinking the water there. ys pd
VMD: I don’t think it’s clear audio. It could mean anything. But I’m sure the analytical equipment is better today. More research should be done. Has the GBC ever announced a verdict on Prabhupada’s death? Would they move to protect top leaders? It’s very possible.
They do do that. I do keep an open mind. It’s an awful thing to remain hanging over the movement. Along with other atrocities. One might be forgiven for thinking it’s a big mistake to be involved with the Hare Krishna movement if so much evil has gone on.
PADA: Yes, the Cadmium was found in a retest with more recent equipment. Voice prints using better equipment are being made now to identify the exact persons making the whispers etc. Of course, I already know "who is who" myself to some extent.
Well yes, Jesus was crucified, and his supposed followers made the very corrupt various medieval Pope dynasties and so many wars no one could count. Even current wars are often based on so-called religion grounds. So we could say worship of Jesus is a mistake. But that is really what happens anytime, even when Krishna is here personally, there are immediately attacks on Him and all sorts of evil comes out of the woodwork and huge wars and other atrocities are made. Just because Jesus was crucified, and there has been tons of corruption in what is alleged to be his church does not nullify him or his religion. We cannot toss out the baby with the bath water. If we say religion is bad, or God is bad, because bad people hi-jacked His religion, that is our mistake. It is up to us to make sure that His religion is not hi-jacked and corrupted, that is a test for His actual followers. ys pd
VMD: I don’t disagree. Maybe they think an investigation is not in their interest. The truth can dangerous for career devotees. There are many YouTube videos on the subject of Arsenic and Cadmium in Indian soil and water. Residents of Mayapura and Vrndavan have massively high levels. A devotee in Vrndavan recently made a post about it. I can’t find it. Here is another. I think that so much heavy metal in Indian soil discounts that evidence. So the Audio is left. It should be put up again so all can have a listen.
https://youtu.be/3LjGBw2Gevc
50 million affected by Arsenic Poisoning in West Bengal
PADA: Fine, but does not explain why they are discussing poisoning him. Nor does it explain why his levels were off the charts of the regular found levels. Nor does it explain why other people in the area do not these high of levels of Cadmium. Nor does it explain why the tape was hidden in the first place. Nor does it explain why Tamal made another tape saying to Satsvarupa "Srila Prahbupada wanted us to give him something to make him disappear," and that tape is crystal clear, and so on and so on. Some arsenic is found there, true, but not at these levels found in his hair sample. Nor is cadmium found in the levels he had, etc. The GBC made a counter explanation, but their audio expert was a guy whose rock and roll recording studio went bankrupt, and their medical expert was not certified etc. ys pd
VMD: Actually I did observe that Prabhupada was frequently speaking about dying. He seemed to have a wish to die. He didn’t mind it happening. But his staff were constantly begging him to eat so that he would stay. He wasn’t very cooperative. Morbidity is a symptom of diabetes. He wanted to go on parikram but in his very frail state it might have killed him. Instead of giving him poison they could just have encouraged him to go.
Yes residents of certain areas like Vrndavan and Mayapura have way of the scale levels of Arsenic and cadmium in their bodies. It builds up in the body and never goes away. It’s not overnight. Prabhupada lived most of his life in these places. But apart from that it’s certain that he had long term untreated Diabetes as diagnosed a few weeks before in a Watford hospital and he died with the symptoms. In ‘69 he implied to Gargamuni that it caused his stroke and heart attack on the Jaladuta. Another independent audio analyst should listen to tapes.
Please post what you have so far if it’s convenient.
PADA: I was the first person to get the November 1977 tapes transcribed, no one else had copies up to then. When I played the tape to the first transcriber, a Los Angeles professional Bengali writer, he only listened for 30 seconds, stopped the tape, and said -- this man was killed with poison. I played the tape to some Brijabais, they started crying on the spot, saying -- he was poisoned.
The FBI said -- this is a homicide. None of these people are talking about diabetes? And the people now working on voice prints of the speakers are also not mentioning diabetes? Diabetes is one issue, talking about poisoning people is another. One of the devotees investigating the poison issue was given "special prasadam" and the next day he was passing blood, there was broken glass in the food they gave him, and he had to get help from the hospital. He was not suffering from diabetes? ys pd
VMD: It’s well documented that in September ‘77 Prabhupada visited the Peace Hospital in Watford for a procedure. While there he was was tested for Diabetes. The doctor diagnosed, long term, untreated diabetes. He was even interviewed about his meeting with Prabhupada a few years ago. It’s on Vani or somewhere.
These people you spoke to may be unqualified. Making a judgment after 30 seconds is dodgy. Having Arsenic, Cadmium and sugar is poison too but Diabetes is certain.
My point is that the Ayurvedic doctors failed because they didn’t mention or treat Prabhupada for Diabetes. Metformin is the most successful treatment.
PADA: Ok so the Bengali writer, the Brijabasis, the audio labs, the hair sample labs, the FBI and others think the November tapes and other evidences indicate a crime, and the devotees think the November tapes indicate a diabetes problem? And the Dallas courts think there is a huge molesting program going on, and meanwhile the devotees as a group are shouting insults at me for creating a big lawsuit?
And the West Virginia Sherrif's office is consulting me before raiding New Vrndavana, and the devotees at the time are writing that this is the best spiritual community in the world. That is the pattern all the time? The people I am talking to are way more qualified than the devotees generally, yes as a matter of fact, that is correct.
And right now I am working with another group that is making another professional historical account (that will eventually be made public) and they tell me the same thing, the devotees as a group do not agree with me, but they do agree with me. The FBI does not make judgements in 30 seconds, neither do the Dallas courts, neither do the many professional historians that I have helped with books, TV shows, news articles etc. and I am still helping now with a very detailed account of the history. They do their homework, and it is the devotees as a group who do things in 30 seconds, not them. ys pd
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PADA: First of all I never said there was no diabetes. I said that the Bengali writer who did the original transcript, the Brijabasis who were crying on hearing the tape, the Gainesville FBI who said the tape and hair sample and prove a homicide, the four professional audio forensic labs, the hair samples lab, and others, never mentioned diabetes.
When Tamal says Srila Prabhupada said he wanted us to give him something to make him disappear, that does not sound like a diabetes issue either, except yes, Srila Prabhupada did complain, the milk is too sweet. I could mention diabetes, but it is not the primary issue at hand. Srila Prabhupada says he is being given poison, everyone in the room agrees he says he is being given poison, and they are discussing murders and poisoning of previous gurus and so on.
The conversation was hidden and I had to go through a lot of hoops and hurdles to get it, it was being kept a secret. Why? And apart from that, on November 3, Srila Prabhupada says “my only request is, that at the last stage, don’t torture me, and put me to death.” Why was such a statement made?
And then he said, get me out of this room, Ravana will kill me if I stay here. One gurukuli was saying he saw Bhavananda spreading white powder on Srila Prabhupada's food, and Bhavananda told that student it was special spiritual dust. Later some GBC people were looking for that gurukuli and he was getting threats. Fortunately, his dad told the GBC they would be prosecuted severely if anything happened to his kid. In other words, diabetes is not the main thing being discussed here.
We need to keep with the main statements and documented evidence. Srila Prabhupada's chart said he would live a long time, if he could survive the next six months, but beware of juniors and subordinates. That is why he later on said "jyoti jnana," my chart knows what is happening ... problems from juniors and subordinates is not diabetes. ys pd
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