GOVINDA DASI: Dear Srila Prabhupada: Back in 1967, you would calmly turn the world globe in your tiny New York apartment, and declare: “Brahmananda you will go to Russia, Rayarama you will go to England, Goursundar you will go to Japan…” and so on. Yet we were just youngsters in our early 20s! Little did we know you were planning a worldwide takeover of Hare Krishna Kirtan!
Slowly turning the globe, you gravely said, “There is a bear-like demoniac race that has come up from a subterranean planetary system into the caves in Russia, and they are intent upon making the whole world communist, atheist!”
As you studied the atlas globe, you selected generals for each continent, planning your counter-attack even though you had only a handful of youth for an army! You often said, “This demoniac western civilization is in its final phases, you will see it collapse within your lifetime. So get prepared, get self-sufficient, get land, cows for milk, grow food, create farms and rural communities for devotees.”
Now it is 2022. We are watching the collapse right before our eyes. And we are remembering your many warnings and predictions, and wisely seeking shelter even more sincerely at your lotus feet. You used to say, “In future people will say this Hare Krishna movement saved the world!” Saved the world from what? Could it be from the evil plans of demoniac dictators who would like to further enslave humanity and destroy the opportunity of human birth?
Plans to force so called medicines that loosen the etheric body and create a race of godless humans? That greatest opportunity, after millions of lifetimes in this dark material world, is human birth. Our golden opportunity to realize our spiritual connection with God!
And the asuras want to destroy it. Now we are already seeing some of your dire warnings come true, playing out in the streets of our American and European cities. The fight between good and evil, God and Godless, atheism and theism is reaching mammoth proportions. The asuras want to stop all worship of God, and reduce humanity to tech-controlled quasi-robots, without any spiritual aspirations.
By money and technology they are controlling everyone, even governments and leaders, and are cruelly deaf to the protests of the suffering citizens. Ominous wardrums beat louder each day, reminding us of your many warnings. As our well known way of life changes daily, our so-called trusted legal institutions fail us, our financial systems go up in smoke, and our treasured political parties betray us, let us remember all that you have said, Srila Prabhupada.
Let us meditate more intensely on the gifts of Krishna consciousness that you have so kindly given us: your wonderful original books that you yourself read from daily—and so often exclaimed, “I did not write these books! Krishna has written, He has dictated!” And your super excellent lectures, your wonderful bhajans, your temples, and so many beautiful Deities!—All these amazing gifts, favors from your Grand Party, the Party of Lord Chaitanya’s Mission landing on Earth!
Let us treasure every tidbit, every morsel, every sliver of Prasadam from your Party! Truly, Srila Prabhupada, your lila is eternal. We can enter into it simply by remembering you and your glorious activities, reading your wonderful books, and as much as possible, chanting the Holy Names of Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.
These are the ways that Krishna consciousness will save the world! Kirtan is the ultimate weapon to defeat the demoniac agenda. No weapon is more powerful than the Holy Names! So our Party line is “KEEP THE KIRTANS GOING!!” THANK YOU SRILA PRABHUPADA, for giving us this grand invitation, and let us share it with everyone! Your loving daughter, Govinda dasi
June 4, 1974 Geneva Switzerland Srila Prabhupada: “Unless one takes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, there is no possibility of being saved. There is example, that grinding mill... You know, grinding mill? Yes, and the grains are put within it and they are all smashed.
But one grain who takes shelter of the center, the pivot, it is not smashed. Similarly the modern civilization is such that everyone will be smashed. And one takes the central point shelter, Kṛṣṇa consciousness, will not be. Kaunteya pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśyati [Bg. 9.31]. So best thing is to take shelter of Kṛṣṇa and save yourself.”
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PADA: Sounds good, except that Govinda dasi had me kicked off the "ISKCON History" forum, by turning it over to her ex-Harikesha pals, who are vehemently against us Prabhupadanugas. And just before that, she was saying on that forum we are the bogus "ritvik snitviks." Wait? The ritviks want to promote Srila Prabhupada, and that is bogus? We need to promote the ex-Harikesh folks, who say that Bhakti Vikas swami is correct, we are worshiping a skeleton?
And BVKS says -- we should worship his pedophile pals like Lokanath instead of a skeleton, ummm like Krishna and Srila Prabhupada? And Govinda dasi knows these people are with the GBC and their pedophile messiahs project because they openly promote leaders of that program like BVKS, and then -- she turns the forum over to them, and I get kicked out, because I am saying we need to worship pure devotees, and not worship Govinda Dasi's pedophile's guru's pals program. Why is she handing the forum over to the pedophile messiah's project, and having the Prabhupada people banned?
And she hangs out with the Narayan Maharaja groupies in Hawaii -- and we all know NM has been a huge cheer leader of Tamal's pedophile messiahs project. So we need to take shelter of Srila Prabhupada, sign me up. Then! These ex-Harikesh guys (Torben / Ajit Krishna et al.) are also promoting Bhakti Vikas swami, who is with the Lokanath lover's club -- the group that wants to keep pedophiles in the guru post.
Why are we turning the ISKCON history forum over to the people who want us to worship their pedophile messiah lover's club leaders like Bhakti Vikas swami? What connection does pedophile worship have to do with -- Krishna?
And we are bogus ritvik snitvik fools for worshiping a skeleton because we worship Krishna and His pure devotee. Oh yea, I forgot, we need to worship pedophiles like Lokanath because he is "in a living body" -- and thus he is not a skeleton (like Krishna?). Why are we aligning with the worship of these pedophile guru folks, at all? OK guess what, pedophiles are not messiahs, nor are the cheer leader of programs that promote pedophiles as messiahs (like Narayan Maharaja).
We should all worship Srila Prabhupada. Fine. But that almost never happens, rather people take shelter of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children GBC's program, or that program's biggest cheer leaders, apologists and exponents, and Tamal's biggest boot lickers, ok like NM. We cannot have it both ways? We cannot promote Srila Prabhupada, and promote a pedophile guru lover's program, and its best hand maidens like NM.
Yes, everything Srila Prabhupada said could come true, and would come true if we allowed false gurus, has come true. He said -- if we worship deviants as gurus, as they did in the Gaudiya Matha, we would fail. And the entire world would suffer because Lord Chaitanya's movement would be hampered, and it has been.
All of these devotees who want it both ways, Srila Prabhupada is a guru, and the pedophile guru pals program are also gurus, want something that will never work on the practical platform. In any case, Srila Prabhupada said without Krishna consciousness, the world would descend into worse and worse condition, and he is right. It is. And one ex-kuli said to me he is ecstatic that the temples are empty, that will save others from being victims. Is this the result that these false gurus wanted?
In any case, we are making some gradual headway, albeit slowly, but not because of much help from these Govinda dasi ilk. Someone asked me, does Govinda dasi even know that offering bhogha to pedophile messiahs and / or pedophile messiah's hand maidens is -- not -- prasadam? I dunno? ys pd
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PADA: Right YD, it is a problem of out of touch autocracy, also it is creating problems for itself, they are losing men and money and world opinion is turning against them. Even if they win Ukraine, the world will never forgive how they obtained it. And ISKCON is the same, they conquered the property, but no one will forgive how their program banned, beat, molested, sued and killed ... in order to get those properties.
Yep, we have some nice deadly missiles over here, and we are sending them, just "for the children." Good news! We "saved" those children by getting rid of them quick, because otherwise we would have starved them to death gradually. Really?
What happens when the acharya disappears?
Rogues take his seat
and people like Narayan Maharaja become their
hand maidens.
LW: It does look like a lot of the "senior devotees" ... who have all this "inside nectar information" about "the coming collapse of civilization" were nowhere to be found ... as the ISKCON society collapsed. First of all ... they should have been worried about the collapse of their own ISKCON society ... before taking on the topic of the collapse of the materialist's society.
ReplyDeleteThe sky is falling for the material society ... which we all sort of knew that anyway. The material society has been sinking down into chaos for a long time now. Well known. Real problem for devotees ??? is ... their ISKCON society has been in chaos and falling into pieces ... maybe even worse than the materialist's society.
In fact almost all the devotees left the ISKCON society and re-joined the materialistics ... like big leaders ... Ramesvara, Bhagavan, Satsvarupa, Ravindra swarupa, Hrdayananda, Giriraja, Mukunda swami and most others ... are hard to even find these days. They are mostly living outside ... living aloof and what not. And they are fully dependent on the materialistics society ... because they did little or nothing to make varnasrama, or farms or anything.
Now Govinda dasi informs us that the crisis we now see in the materialistics was clearly spelled out by Srila Prabhupada ... but hardly anyone cared. But the real issue for devotees is ... their society has been ... spinning out of control into chaos ... all along. And it still is. The Lokanath issue has never been resolved, neither books changes, nor who or whom is accountable for all the molesting and so on.
And now we hear the GBC is making their communications more secret ... using their internal communications ... to block leaks of their discussions. So it is more isolated, full of mistrust, lack of communication, and keeping their cards to their chest ... which makes progress impossible.
That is the issue she needs to discuss. Never mind the chaos of the materialistics ... what is going on with ISKCON? And if she has been part of the Narayan Maharaja group, Bhakti Vikas swami group, and all these other bogus groups ... then she is one of the persons who made ISKCON fall into deep chaos. She needs to get her own ship going in the right direction ... then guide the rest of us. Her advice is good ... but Johnny come lately. Where were all these senior people while the ISKCON ship was being steered into the rocks? That is the question ... none of them ever answer.