Death Threats from ISKCON's Pedophile Guru Cult

pada@ angel108b@yahoo.com

[JD: If the Lokanath / ICC Bureau people will threaten to kill a mother with little children, they will threaten anyone. Lokanath's program is a violent and murderous child molesting thug cult, and therefore, so are a number of the followers.]

https://iskconicc.com/index.php/bureau-members/

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2021/07/iskcon-india-icc-responds-to-na-gbc.html

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2021/07/full-video-of-india-icc-defending.html

S DASI: THREATS OF INTIMIDATION

In May of 2021, soon after asking the ISKCON GBC to follow their child protection laws and have Lokanath removed as an ISKCON leader, I was told that I was put on a "hit list" by Lokanath’s (India ICC Bureau) supporters in India. I didn’t know what that entailed but hearing that a group of people wanted me dead definitely put me on my guard. 

I would be standing at my kitchen sink at night, looking out the window into the blackness wondering, “Is someone pointing a gun at me right now?” When I would start the car, I’d ask my three children to stand away from the car while I put the key in, in case there was a bomb waiting to go off." 

On the highway, I would make sure not to drive alongside anyone, lest there be a shooter in the adjacent car. It was a scary and sobering experience. I notified the FBI and my local police in Hillsborough, North Carolina. I felt somewhat reassured that our next-door neighbor was a fire marshal (connected with law enforcement), and that two police cars regularly sat at the intersection a few feet from my house, facing each other on opposite sides of the intersection. 

I would play out scenarios where I could flag them down if needed. The scariest feeling was knowing that within mere seconds, my life would be taken and my children, aged 3, 5, and 7 would be left without a mother.

A few months after being told I was on a hit list, I was watching a British police show. That particular episode was about a woman named Sara Jones who was murdered for her social activism work. Some of the threats I have received include:

- having my tongue cut out

- bugs in my mouth

- getting leprosy

- dying as as a worm

- “definitely” having a car accident

- an anonymous person asking me to fight face to face

- that I am “finished”

- “You will pay for your sins and it will be too late before you realize. Karma is for real”

- “needs the right stick for demons like Sarah and Damodara”

- that I am a demon and should be "mercilessly punished”

- “This is your one and only warning: "back off" oh stupid one, you do not know what you are dealing with. Remember you have until July 20, then I press the red button and will unleash your worst nightmares on you.” 

I received these threats of intimidation because I asked that a child molester be removed from leadership in ISKCON, per ISKCON's own rules. Jane Austen sums up my feelings in Pride & Prejudice:

“There is a stubbornness about me that never can bear to be frightened at the will of others. My courage always rises at every attempt to intimidate me.”

MK Dasi: So sorry to hear of these threats to your life and safety! This ignorance is what we're dealing with in ISKCON these days....

BB Dasa: That is the something I hear about regularly around ISKCON. The aggressive intimidation of people who are asking that as a society we hold these criminals -- who have used their positions of trust and power to commit horrible violations against women and children -- accountable. They talk about doing good, or following God’s laws, or personal sacrifice, all while holding hate in their hearts and causing harm that will be with their victims their entire lives. 

I am saddened that you have been subjected to threats. I am proud of you for setting the example for your children. I pray for your safety. 

PRD: I think it would only be a concern if you were in India. You're pretty safe in the USA.

[PADA: That is why Lokanath's people are infuriated with us "Western Mlecchas," because our police protect us whistleblowers and their other victims from their Satanic and murderous pedophile worshiping cult. In short, us mlecchas are not going to bow down and worship Lokanath's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiahs, a program which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills people, and that infuriates the India ICC Bureau and their henchmen like Bhakti Vikas swami, Basu Ghosh, etc.]   

DK Devi: I’m so so glad you have people looking out for you and you’ve reported it to the police and my heart breaks for this. You are doing the warrior work and it’s shameful. If their spiritual master were faultless, there would be no need for death threats. 

LS Dasi: Keep on fighting the Good fight. It's deplorable that some entities cannot see right from wrong. I see some really beautiful and intelligent children being raised with open ears, eyes and same fierce heart of their Mama! Protection of our children is so so very vital. Thank you for being a voice of needed change.

A Dasi: What is this, July 20? I do hope you are bringing some up on charges, like this one. It shows the extent of their nuttiness, and yes you know who you are dealing with! That is why you are speaking out, and with enough compassion and knowledge of karma to know these persons should admit their wrong doing and step down. 

AL Dasi: Anonymous “fighters”? How can they look themselves in the mirror? I will never understand the fear and shame they must be experiencing (or rather burying deep within themselves). I’m so sorry you have to endure this. 

DD: No mother should have to worry her children will not have a mother.  This Lokanath fellow is a creepy demon who wants more children terrorized ... after his program already terrorized thousands. They want children to live in fear of their parents dying. It is what pedophile cults do. They tell little children, we will kill your parents. That is what they always do.  

TT Dasi: Oh my, Dear Krishna! I had no idea the threats were so insidious. May Sri Nrsimhadeva protect you and your family. I'm deeply sorry and sad that you're going through this. I have such challenges with anxiety issues I'd probably be a hot mess. But, after mentally assuming the role you're carrying out, I imagine it is simultaneously empowering to know your voice is causing thunder for our children. 

DD: They want to be able to have children molested and raped with no consequences the whole time. This is not even new, but that does not mean it is not tragic and dangerous now. This needs to be exposed more, Lokanath is the leader of a violent pedophile cult that murders other dissenting people already. And now they are making the same threats they made before they murdered others. They are a murderous pedophile cult. We need this to be more exposed on ordinary news media.

LL Dasa: The things we are willing to live for should be the things we are willing to die for. When this is the case, we are fully in touch with what matters the most. God bless your determination for goodness and justice. ISKCON's history precedes itself. If people would blindly follow Kirtananada and other "gurus", they will do the same with Lokanatha. You should be very vigilant. 

I hope you own and train in firearms. Possibly consider getting a concealed carry permit and train on how to defend yourself and your family. Confidence and training can help see us through extreme situations because we were prepared.

MDF Dasi: So sorry. How disgraceful. Makes me want to run 100 miles away from iskcon permanently to know that you were threatened like this. 

GM Dasa: I think the threats are not real. You don’t need to fear. If you truly believe that these threats are real, then Iskcon is not the organization worth fighting for or worth saving. It is very shameful to Prabhupada and every leader of Iskcon if Iskcon can produce such people. I still trust Iskcon because it is very rare that Iskcon talks violence. I haven’t heard any lecture where violence is encouraged. 

There are some religions which are violent at the core. Iskcon is not like that. Iskcon in 2000s is much different than Iskcon in 70s. So example of Kirtanananda is not correct. You don’t need to fear. You will be safe. It is sad though that some people can make you feel that way. 

[PADA: Same people who supported Kirtanananda and then buried him in a samadhi in the dham. Nothing has changed. Same death threats to defend pedophile worship are still going on now. Bhakti Vikas swami says all this ended in 1988, nope, we have been getting death threats all along, way past 1988. And so will anyone else who does not worship their anal sex pooja program, even now.]

RJ Dasa: There are many wonderful, sincere hardworking devotees in Iskcon! Because there are some bad seeds doesn’t mean we should sink the whole ship. 

[PADA: All of the Kauravas were punished because it is still bad karma to support evil people. There were lots of nice people on the Kaurava side, Krishna had them all eliminated.]

GM Dasa: I am sure that those bad people don’t exist. What is the guarantee someone else will not be attacked or killed? These fears are not true? If they exist, then it is truly very serious. One cannot wash away hands by just calling them “bad seeds”. What does that mean? Some Iskcon devotee abuses my daughter and I will receive death threats if I fight for it. Is this organization worth exposing to our family if this is true? What are you talking by just calling such people a few “bad seeds”! 

G Dasi - Some wonderful sincere hardworking devotees -- but they remain silent to the abuse. These threats are taking this to another level if they are true. What kind of bhakti is that? How can I trust that these wonderful hardworking sincere devotees will stand up for my family or friends when something bad happens?

RG Dasa: My heart goes out to you. You are a strong and courageous woman and a loving mother. I hope you can find a way to live in peace. 

G Dasi: Even if well intended, when speaking truth one always will have enemies, because it ruffles all kinds feathers. There is a quote something like, “if we don’t have enemies we aren’t doing anything” Kali Yuga is loss of innocence. 

MC Dasa: Hare Krsna prabhu. Dandavat pranaam.. May Shree Krsna always protect you from danger and keep you always engaged in serving His Lotus feet. Padam padam yad vipadam. 

[PADA: Right, in Kali yuga we will have pedophiles like Lokanath creating an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic of children pedophile sex cult, and he will be glorified by the India ICC's Bureau. And their hero Bhakti Vikas will say all this ended in 1988, when there are still pedophiles being worshiped now, and they are burying pedophiles in samadhi now.]

SSM Dasi: I celebrate your strength and anyone who can't accept the truth to move to a more positive place is beneath your integrity. I'm not involved with Iskcon at all and haven't been for years but having grown up in it, I completely understand your concerns, as I lived them. You're a warrior Mama and I think you're a champion. 

GP: This situation clearly indicates a there is indeed a BIG problem in iskcon India with child abusers. 

DN Dasa: I’m guessing Lokanath doesn’t make it Florida very often … May be an image of text that says 'DANGER DO NOT FEED OR MOLEST ALLIGATORS. CANNOT BE TAMED AND FEEDING THEM CAN RESULT IN THEIR MISTAKING A HAND FOR A HANDOUT! FLORIDA LAW PROHIBITS THE FEEDING OR MOLESTING OF ALLIGATORS. $500 FINE FL STATUTE 372.667'. 

LS Dasi: May Lord Narasingha protect you and your family.

SP Dasi: Definitely take it serious, these threats. We know from the past the murders committed against whistleblowers in NV. There are plenty of ‘unstable’ people in the world and some are in our movement. 

[PADA:  Yes, they want to try to incite someone to "take revenge on the offenders" to their pedophile messiah's cult.]

S DASA: GBC / ISKCON owes you a permanent protection detail. And every GBC member has the duty to personally -- as an individual, not hiding behind a group--speak out as strongly as you have, sharing the obvious, facts-supported truths and conclusion. They--each!--must put themselves out there the same as you, so that if anyone is to be targeted everyone would have to be targeted. 

I will send this to every GBC; I hope many others do as well. They need to hear a tsunami of support for the truth and condemnation of their inaction. They themselves should be the ones concerned about how the Lord and their spiritual master will view their shameful inaction.

M Dasi: Oh dear, this is unbelievable! I will pray for your safety!

A Dasi: Omg I am so sorry:(

SL DASI: These threats are so bad, I read some of them earlier this year,. I admire your resilience in these matters.

M Dasi: I wonder what kind of spirituality are these people dreaming to follow?

They should know that defending a pedophile, or a child molestor, will just cast them on lowest conditions of life. Its everyone s duty give children protection, not only one s own children. While giving protection to a man unable to manage his own inability to control his senses at that point reveals their inside miseries too.

BJ Dasa: These threats show the backwardsness of some who apparently are living in a bronze age. it is very pitiful. Denial. Not seeing reality. Talk about cheaters. jeeez.

SK Dasi: Oh Krishna! I know what it feels like to be silenced too and I just want to say a really big thank you again to you for your bravery and resilience and confidence in speaking out! It gives me so much strength in my journey about speaking my truth about the horrendous things that have happened in my life and although I still have a very long way to go I am slowly starting to speak. you are such an inspiration to me ! Thank you so much. May Krishna protect you always!

VK Dasi: At any time did LOK tell his disciples, supporters or followers who were threatening to kill you, to stop and apologise, or did LOK himself contact you to apologise that this people wanted to kill you on his behalf? If not, he is

Complicit- I don’t accept for a moment that he is ignorant to these threats.

LG: You will always be protected by the LORD Hare Krishna 

HD Dasa: I’m appalled and consider this an outrage. What has become of some parts of ISKCON. You need to share this post with the GBC Chair and Anuttama pr. You also need to alert the local authorities and media from where these threats come. Name and shame. But never take threats from India lightly - these are gundas!

S Dasi: I think the GBC members were getting their own threats. I heard that Bhakti Chaitanya Swami was threatened by someone he knows, that if he continues to pursue Lokanath he will be in his samadhi soon. 

BP Dasi: This is abolutely horrifying. I am so sorry. May you and your precious children always be protected.

[PADA: Lokanath followers wrote to tell me I am a foolish Western Mleccha and I need to let them decide what is right and wrong. They are being trained to attack and insult anyone who doubts their pedophile guru system. In case people forgot my previous statement, when I protested child molesting in 1979, I was booted out of ISKCON by the gang of four gurus. 

And just as I was walking out the door, one of them told me "you better watch your back." In other words, they were threatening me with violence. And that has been their entire modus operandi ever since, which a policeman told me -- is identical to how the MAFIA operates. And they made good on their promise, I did have to watch my back. 

And me and my friends were banned, some of us were chased with baseball bats, some of us were beaten, some of us were assassinated -- and I would have been assassinated too, except for some timely help from the police. They are a violent pedophile cult, and have been all along. "Watch your back," and that was from one of their gurus. 

That is how they train people, and they still are. The only good news is, they are being exposed badly so their support is drying up. Brahmananda told me, your noisy campaign is why you are still alive. They cannot take you out because then everyone will target them as the number one suspects. Taking out a squeaky wheel is much harder for them to do. Our best defense as squeaky wheels? Keep on squeaking. ys pd]

MP Dasi: That is so terrible! You are so brave to continue. I can't believe this kind of thing still goes on.

WED: Lord Nrshimhadeva shall protect you mataji. Nothing wrong with what you are doing. The law is the law. For everyone…

AA Dasi: Oh oh... don't forget the gazillion "Vaishnava aparadha", Not just physical but spiritual abuse.

RB: Unfortunately there seems to be same very serious mental health issues among same devotes and more than a bit of confusion between spiritual life and plain abuse. Sorry to hear of your situation keep law enforcement informed and keep public about whats going on.

MDS: Maybe get more secure regarding your settings publicly. Have your cause be a cause name not your name. Make those hateful people try harder. Keep the faith though. Just don’t get hurt.

BZD: Hare Krishna. I will pray to Nrsimhadeva for your protection.

YL: Sorry to hear. How awful and barbarous! May the Lord protect you. Hopefully the fact that the world has been put on notice will be a deterrence.

M.E. Dasi: It's absolutely horrifying, but sadly only the latest chapter in ISKCON's long history of encouraging violence and discouraging mental health treatment for those who need it. As you know, I don't share your faith, but am struck by the fact that these threats clearly reveal a lack of faith among those who are threatening you. 

Surely if they actually believed in the philosophy, they would realize that bad things happen (in this life or next) to those who support child abusers and who threaten those who advocate for child protection. I don't know if they are delusional, faithless, stupid, or angry, bitter, miserable human beings, but according to the philosophy, their gurus need to set them straight, since they too will suffer the reactions of their disciples ' behaviors. 

But this likely won't happen given the many benefits they experience in this life from being cult leaders with large numbers of disciples. I admire your persistence, but hope you're ready for this fight to take decades before seeing real change as it's unlikely to happen while any first generation members are still alive.

DP: Do you practice your second amendment right to bare arms?

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KD: "Narottama dasa Thakura says chadiya vaisnava seva nistara payeche keba, he is indicating an actual Vaisnava, not an envious or jealous person in the dress of a Vaisnava." To neglect such persons we first of all must spot them. We have to identify them. But if we are afraid or too crippled to apply critical thinking, we will never be able to make sense of this instruction and will be victimized by the disguised mundane person.

Many of us can remember our failure to apply critical thinking in the past. We have experienced how men in our midst openly behaved in ways unbecoming of a Vaisnava, and were not only tolerated long past the point of reasonable doubt about their motives, but were hailed as great Vaisnavas. The reason: they were clever enough to hold up some symbols of success—books distributed, devotees made, and temples opened—which we allowed to obscure their questionable character. It is such an obvious strategy.

We Should Discriminate More

Does Srila Prabhupada expect us to apply critical thinking in such matters? He does. In a letter to Hamsaduta (1969), Srila Prabhupada wrote:

Regarding your question about faith in devotees, faith must be there. But we should always take instruction from devotees who are considered to be elevated. A preacher's position is like this: He should have firm faith and love for Krishna. He should make friendship with devotees. He should be very much charitable and kind to the neophytes and he should avoid the company of nondevotees. This program suggests, of course, that a devotee who is not in the neophyte stage can discriminate what is Krishna, what is devotee, what is neophyte and what is non-devotee. 

Unless one is able to discriminate, he is to be considered to be in the neophyte stage. In the neophyte stage the position is that the neophyte devotee worships the Deity in the temple with great awe and reverence, but he cannot discriminate who is devotee, who is non-devotee and who is neophyte. I think you must be in the second stage and should try to discriminate as above. Any devotee wanting to see you should be welcome, but your treatment should be according to his position.

According to these guidelines, one who avoids discriminating is a neophyte. The neophyte cannot discriminate who is a devotee and who is a nondevotee. But a devotee in the second stage, or aspiring to reach the second stage, "should try to discriminate as above." Prabhupada says, ". . .we should always take instructions from devotees who are considered to be elevated." But this entails being able to tell who is an elevated devotee. 

It is not that we blindly accept as an article of faith or by popular vote that so and so is an elevated devotee. We are each supposed to develop our power of discrimination. Therefore, Prabhupada writes: "This program suggests, of course, that a devotee who is not in the neophyte stage can discriminate what is Krishna, what is devotee, what is neophyte and what is non-devotee. Unless one is able to discriminate, he is to be considered to be in the neophyte stage." We should not remain neophytes. We should rise to the platform of discriminating.

But we often hear that the advanced devotee "does not discriminate." Fact. But this does not mean we become advanced by giving up our discrimination, although some of us assume that to be the case."