Thursday, April 21, 2022

Prayers for Madi Brinkman (Prithu's Son)

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[PADA: Recently PADA has been talking to more and more writer / historian type folks who are always asking me, what they heck happened to ISKCON? Same question all the time! And yup, more professional "historical accounts" are in the works. 

Did I forget to mention, Lord Yamaraja has a detailed accounting of this already in hand. And the people who already left (or who are leaving soon) OK such as: Hansadutta, Bhakti Caru swami, Gaura Govinda Maharaja, Bhakti Tirtha swami, Tamal Krishna swami, Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja et al. have already found themselves having to explain their support for their pedophile messiahs club cult to Yamaraja, with no success. 

Lord Yamaraja is not interested in any of their foolish BS and bogus excuses that they try to foist off to him over on his planet. Pedophile messiah's club members have to go to the darkest depths of the lowest and most obnoxious regions in the universe. Full stop.   

Yep, even ordinary historians and writers find it amazing that such a "peace and love" religion could become such a toxic brew of: scandalous illicit sex and drugs gurus, crimes, child molesting, murders and so on. Just hard for almost anyone to comprehend how it all came to this state, and so quickly. 

We also went over the poison issue with some folks recently -- and the overall smash and grab takeover of the assets by a few elite leaders, so they could hi-jack ISKCON and make their personal pedophile's guru cult out of the ISKCON society.

I have also discussed with some of these historians -- how this has impacted the citizens -- and was talking with some of them recently about the apparent "cancer epidemic" among ISKCON's citizenry. Yep, makes a lot of sense. People who were joining -- what they thought was -- a peace and love religion -- would have a major shock to their system -- to find out they have been part of a bogus and criminal cult. That might harm their mental or even physical health.

And many of the children of ISKCON were just thrust into the situation by dint of being born in the scene of the crime / arena of all these smash and grab criminals. They really did not have much of a say in these goings on, they just had to deal with the mess they were handed.   

And thus -- many of the ex-children ended up rejecting the religion, if not being enemies of the religion. Around here most of them boycott the society wholesale, and some of them eat meat etc. as a sort of protest against their "spiritual upbringing." OK something really went badly off for them. And a number of them therefore had problems with drug use, loose sexual activity, partying, and no small amount of -- trauma, PTSD, despair, dejection and depression. And considering how the children were treated as a group, these results are quite understandable. 

A few of them have tried to make some sort of alignment / alliance with the regime, but it seems it is always an uneasy alliance. It is hard for any of these second generation / ex-children type people to just ignore all the troubles they and / or their peers endured under the regime's jack boots. 

Madi Brinkman helped make a video called "Burnt Laddus," about the abused children. Interesting title because, a burnt laddu cannot ever be recovered really. It always has the same smokey burnt taste to it no matter what. I was myself multi-tasking in the kitchen once -- and forgot to stir the sweet rice, yep burnt to a crisp on the bottom. Whole thing was burnt beyond repair and ruined. Could not recover from that. Burnt items are very hard to recover in any situation. 

In other words, the abuse and molesting has had a long time / long term effect on many of the ex-youth, and a burnt laddu is somewhat of an interesting parallel example. Now some of these burnt laddus committed suicide, and many of them have other symptoms of traumatic stress. OK one of the symptoms of traumatic stress is -- people can get ill. Maybe very ill. Maybe develop-- cancer? 

We believe, yes, an illness CAN result and CAN BE be one of the manifestations of all this trauma, and in fact fatal illness -- is a recurring manifestation among various ISKCON youth and elders alike. Now Madi's mom Rambhouru is making some sort of therapy group for these victims. Fine. 

But to get to the root of this or any other trauma, it needs to be understood threadbare. That means we need to have people understand what happened, how it happened, and who made it happen. It seems Rambhoru's process is incomplete. In fact, it would seem Madi has not fully grasped all this himself. And it would thus seem these insufficient "therapy" cures for the trauma are not fully releasing it, causing many side effect problems for the victims to continue -- including fatal ailments. 

We need to look at this threadbare: 

Did the GBC as a group coerce and force children to worship pedophiles and deviants as their gurus? Yes.

Did the GBC as a group siphon off money meant to go to care for the children, leaving a number of these children sometimes with no basic supplies such as medicine, soap, blankets and food? Yes.   

Did the GBC as a group empower child abusers, molesters and even child beaters to be in charge of various children. Yes.

Has the GBC as a group ever removed any of the people in charge of the molester messiahs' project like Jayapataka, Lokanath swami et al.? Nope! 

OK these are just a few samples of the type of issues that need to be raised and resolved, and they just aren't in most cases. Therefore, the trauma continues, and the fatal ailments continue, or sometimes the fatal suicides happen from time to time. Worse, the Rambhouru program is still promoting not only the founder fathers of the pedophile pooja program like Jayapataka et al., -- their program even promotes known child molesters as gurus now. 

See what we mean here:


Alachua Florida's Pedophile Messiah Lover's Club of Mukhya DD. "We want all our children to have a nice child molester's messiah's club guru program." And then we wonder, why some of them -- get cancer? 

Therefore, in the opinion of PADA, a full house cleaning is required to address all this and remove the traumas from folks, by letting them see where the trauma has been coming from, and thus how to flush it out. If they never understood the source of the trauma, then they cannot remove it. 

Anyway I wish Madi well and hope for the best. He is a victim in our opinion, and he deserves help to get free of all this baggage which, evidently, is weighing down on him in different ways, and weighing down numbers of others who are also getting cancer and other similar fatal ailments -- happening all too often -- in this society. ys pd

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PADA: Yep prabhu. The problem in ISKCON has been -- too many folks were too busy "doing service" to notice that the citizens in their society, including the society's children, were in trouble. Hundreds of times people told me "chant your rounds, Krishna will sort all this out." 

OK so we are chanting our rounds asking Krishna to engage us in His service, and when the service is -- to advocate for the society's abused children, we should avoid that service? And when their idea of "avoiding the controversy" process is compounded into thousands of acquiescing people, who are often too busy making flower garlands for the leaders (the people orchestrating all the troubles) then what happens? 

So now we have a few people ringing the village fire alarm, and they are supposedly over compensating. Well fine, but they had to over compensate because most of the other villagers were sitting around watching the fire burn down most of the rest of the village. 

So this is why I really personally don't care too much about my critics, or critics of others who are promoting child protection. Unless everyone is on the same page, i.e. we cannot have our children worshiping predators and deviants, we cannot have our children being abused and mistreated -- and we cannot then glorify the people orchestrating that odious process as gurus, then -- there is not much use trying to build much of anything else from there. 

Everyone has to agree to point "a" ... then move on to point "b" later on. The temples are mostly empty for a reason. The "real point" has been missed, and in many cases, it still is. What I said in the beginning is becoming true, "we become what we worship." If we worship predators and abusers, we will have a society that is infused with, sympathizes with, apologizes for, and enables abusers, and a society that still gives abusers -- or their enablers -- high posts of authority. Unless that fire is put out, the village will continue to burn. ys pd

3 comments:

  1. LW: Rambhouru and Prithu. Oh no! These people are not helping the situation at all. First of all ... dealing with trauma without identifying ... who are the people causing the trauma ... makes the trauma worse. Then ... maybe the victims are the cause of their own trauma ... since no one else is. Victims shaming and blaming.

    No wonder everyone is getting cancer ... the victims are to blame when no one else is. "It is your karma." Rambhouru also does not even identify Prithu as a big cause of this molesting ... after he has been one of their biggest apologist defenders. We need to say ... the GBC caused all of this trauma and molesting and murders and they are to blame ... not you victims.

    She avoids doing that. Like putting a band aid on a cancerous tumor. Actually makes it worse because it covers up the real problem. We all need therapy, but here is a band aid, we are not going to cut out the tumor. Then the disease gets worse. We need to help trauma victims by first of all ... informing them ... they are victims of a vicious child molesting cult.

    Window dressing the issue won't cure the victims. It is going to make the victims suffer even worse. There are all sort of bogus therapy classes out there ... not telling people the root problem. Makes the problem worse.

    [PADA: Yes, when we were in Los Angeles handing out "Prabhupada" position papers, Prithu grabbed one of our papers and he ripped it into shreds, and stomped on it with shoes, even though it has Prabhupada's photo on the cover. And he said "what is this sh*t?"

    As soon as Prithu sees Prabhupada, he even says he sees sh*t, but as soon as he sees his pedophile child molester empire building pals like Bhavananda, Prithu falls on the ground in ecstacy, and he is all hugs and smiles. Anyone who makes a nice anus sex of children epidemic is their hero, leader ... if not messiah! But we stomp on Prabhupada's photo with our shoes.

    In other words, Prithu wants children to worship his anus sex pooja program, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills people, and he does not worship Prabhupada, and he has done that almost all of his life. As soon as Prithu sees the leader of his favorite anal reconstructive surgery of children epidemic pals, he falls off his chair and floats in ecstacy to see another anus sex messiah's club fellow brother. So if people hate to see Prabhupada being worshiped, and they kiss the feet of the leaders of a homosexual and pedophile mass molesting program, then ... why would we even be surprised there is a cancer epidemic going on in that realm? It would be a surprise if there was no reaction.

    People who stomp on Prabhupada and promote their pedophile guru system are causing all the troubles in the whole society. We need to identify who they are, what is their agenda, and so on, and that is how we will help the trauma victims. Everything else is a part of the cover up of the real tumor, and the effects of that tumor. I agree, there is no other way to help trauma victims, who are suffering primarily due to big lies, than to tell them -- the truth. Srila Prabhupada says -- you have to pop the boil, or it gets infected and spreads. True dat!]

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  2. SD Dasi: I have seen this myself many times over here. Their gurus get sick or fall down ... their people get sick or fall down ... their children get sick or fall down ... they get sued ... they pray for us to pay for their lawsuits ... all sorts of bad stuff happens all the time ... and then they want us to pray to Krishna for all their sick ... fallen down ... and suing problems.

    They can act like rascals ... or support the rascal guru's system ... and then ask Krishna to fix everything ... when they get into troubles. Does Krishna have obligation to fix their self made disasters. No He does not.

    They forget something I learned from church ... The wages of sin is death. It is not possible to be sinful ... or support the sinful ... and not collect the results.

    Why would Krishna all the time be called upon to rescue all these people ... when they are doing things against Krishna's teaching. They have not even learned one of the basic points of religion ... we have to follow the religion ... then LATER ON we ask Krishna to help when something is causing us a problem.

    We are not allowed to promote these sex fiends, pedophiles and drugged up fools as Krishna's gurus ... and then ask Krishna to help when we are experiencing a problem with our program. We made the problem ... why does Krishna have to fix the problems we are making ourselves?

    They do not understand any of this because they are not training people the right way. First ... follow Krishna ... then ask for His help. Making perverts into HIS gurus is ... not following Krishna. Why would He help that aparadha continue. And why would anyone pray to Krishna ... to even ask Him to help us continue these aparadha.

    First ... we need to get everyone to stop these aparadha ... then we can ask Krishna to save us from some problems in our lives. They have the whole idea upside down. First we commit aparadha by making perverts into HIS gurus ... then we pray to have Krishna fix our program. How will that work?

    That is the reverse of the actual Veda system. First we worship the pure devotee ... and we kick all the perverts out of our church. THEN we pray to Krishna to help us with our mission. They have everything upside down ... and when the ship is tossed over and is upside down .. it sinks and people die.

    They never seem to pray to get all the pervs out of the guru post and have all the pervs henchmen taken out of ISKCON. That is the first thing that needs to be fixed ... then we can ask for help fixing other problems later on. I feel bad for these people ... but we cannot be supporting a criminal's and perv's guru system ... that offends Krishna ... and then pray for Mother Durga's law enforcement department for help. This is never going to work. Forever.

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  3. Bhakta JoJo: I need therapy myself from dealing with these fools. They knew my guru was falling down all along ... and yet they told me to accept him anyway. They are just dishonest people.

    You buy an apple from them ... only to find they put razor blades in the apple. Then they wonder why people are upset and having mental problems ... physical health problems etc. They are cheaters. You cannot fix trauma of being cheated without getting rid of the cheaters first.

    When a bogus doctor is killing people with botched surgery ... first of all ... they have to shut down his surgery business. Then they try to fix the cheated people. They don't allow him to go on selling more bogus surgery. ISKCON wants it both ways. We continue botched surgery ... and at the same time ... mend the victims ... with therapy ... while making more victims every day.

    Rambhoru type people are helping giving innocent and gullible newcomers another apple with razor blades ... but she is standing nearby with band aids to stop the bleeding. That is how they are going to help. We still hand out apples with razor blades ... but we have a new nurse on hand to help you when you eat our razor laced apples. And they think that fixes things.

    Anyway her son is another victim of all this cheating and it is acting as a weight on his soul ... just like it acted as a weight on mine. This is why Srila Prabupada says ... these killers of the soul go to hell and always dwell in darkness. They are ALREADY in darkness now ... and they will fall to the worst darkness of the universe when they leave here.

    They are "dark arts" people ... and that is why my friends think ... they are Satanic cabal cult disguised as a religion. And more and more and more people are getting cancer from being in ... or near ... their Satanic cult. Of course ... why would we expect anything else.

    I am amazed I survived it at all. If I would die they would be happy ... one less complaining ex-customer ... so we can cheat another line of new customers. We are harming their supply of fresh blood ... that is the only reason why they don't like us. We are bad for their fresh blood supply business. They don't even care if their victims die ... because they never really change anything.

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