Dandavat Pranam
AGTSP
I salute you for your bold stand and openly writing this letter. I agree with Pancharatna Prabhu and thank him for speaking our minds. We Indians are very emotional and are coming from cultured background it is very difficult for us to confront our seniors, but today the need is to stand in the interest of Srila Prabhupada’s mission. Today we need to stand to protect Srila Prabhupada’s movement from disintegrating and not be concerned about individual promotion / views etc.
AGTSP
I salute you for your bold stand and openly writing this letter. I agree with Pancharatna Prabhu and thank him for speaking our minds. We Indians are very emotional and are coming from cultured background it is very difficult for us to confront our seniors, but today the need is to stand in the interest of Srila Prabhupada’s mission. Today we need to stand to protect Srila Prabhupada’s movement from disintegrating and not be concerned about individual promotion / views etc.
[PADA: OK but where have you guys been since 1978 when the GBC declared that 11 conditioned souls are acharyas? And why are the Hindus the number one supporters of these folks all along, up to now? And what exactly is an illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's system?
Did I forget to mention one of the acharyas in this process is alleged to have tried to have sex with a cat? OK in the USA we are not very cultured, grant you that, but we would never worship an illicit sex with men, women and children "chain of gurus from God." Why? We know better, even with hardly any culture!]
The organisation comes first. You have made a very valid point that it is not that hundreds of souls are waiting for this FDG to take place and, once done, there will be thousands coming to ISKCON. Any new action should be taken based on results of existing one already being done. Did we analyze why the preaching has
failed in the US?
failed in the US?
[PADA: It has failed because people in the US are used to worship of a pure devotee (like Jesus) and not a pile of people engaged in illicit activity, or their enablers.]
Is FDG the reason? Definitely not. Then why take this up at a time when temples are in doldrums and hardly any devotees there.
[PADA: Hee hee yep, some India folks told me making FDG will chase away many of the current Hindu supporters. It will cause more people to leave than join.]
GBC should first address that. Another point is when we refer to the GBC it is
only a few coteries of people who are calling the shots while others I feel
are simply following with the current.
only a few coteries of people who are calling the shots while others I feel
are simply following with the current.
[PADA: Yep, one lady wrote to PADA to complain that it looks like about 30 people are calling all the shots in ISKCON, while tens of thousands cannot participate while they are at the wheel. We tens of thousands all have to leave so a few people can retain tight control of the assets and temples.]
I am also aware that sometime back the BBT International in collaboration
with GBC wanted the Indian BBT to give all their copyrights to the BBT International. I know Bhima Prabhu and Ananda tirtha Prabhu fought on legal
grounds internally and today it is evident where India BBT is and what state the International BBT is. I remember they fought a long battle and challenged on grounds of lack of transparency with BBT International and GBC among other grounds. Imagine if Bhima Prabhu and Ananda Tirtha Prabhu would have not stood up to fight this battle, India BBT could lose its copyright to print Srila Prabhupada's books.
Even in Bangalore case, ISKCON India (Indian Temples) has paid crores till now. The separate discussions on Guru Tattva with Madhu Pandit Prabhu went nowhere because the GBC was not able to give ONE document explaining ISKCONs Guru position as many within them had differing views. Let them together bring up one official document on Guru Tattva first.
[PADA: Wow, they made over 100 gurus, without any paper explaining their guru system. Hee hee, yep. And temples in India have had to pay the legal fees to sue Bangalore, which is alleged to be $20,000,000 at this stage. That is why someone was telling me how happy they are that Dayarama is very sick, so we can stop his plan of spending ISKCON's millions and millions and millions -- on nothing.]
I am sorry for writing this. It takes a lot of mental pressure to write such emails. I feel our superiors in GBC didn't stand up to our concerns, rather they are dumping their individual views by majority voting. Such voting is mentioned in puranic stories that 5 men voted for dog to be a goat and by majority vote Dog becomes a Goat.
I am raising my voice because I am not convinced that keeping quiet is the
solution and I don't want to accept this compromise I am feel helpless, and
I want to keep in record for the next generation that as an individual I stood against this and raised my voice in my capacity.
lastly I beg the Bureau Members to please support the ICC (Indian Temples)
stand against FDG.
Thank you once again.
Your Servant.
Sitaram Das
I am also aware that sometime back the BBT International in collaboration
with GBC wanted the Indian BBT to give all their copyrights to the BBT International. I know Bhima Prabhu and Ananda tirtha Prabhu fought on legal
grounds internally and today it is evident where India BBT is and what state the International BBT is. I remember they fought a long battle and challenged on grounds of lack of transparency with BBT International and GBC among other grounds. Imagine if Bhima Prabhu and Ananda Tirtha Prabhu would have not stood up to fight this battle, India BBT could lose its copyright to print Srila Prabhupada's books.
Even in Bangalore case, ISKCON India (Indian Temples) has paid crores till now. The separate discussions on Guru Tattva with Madhu Pandit Prabhu went nowhere because the GBC was not able to give ONE document explaining ISKCONs Guru position as many within them had differing views. Let them together bring up one official document on Guru Tattva first.
[PADA: Wow, they made over 100 gurus, without any paper explaining their guru system. Hee hee, yep. And temples in India have had to pay the legal fees to sue Bangalore, which is alleged to be $20,000,000 at this stage. That is why someone was telling me how happy they are that Dayarama is very sick, so we can stop his plan of spending ISKCON's millions and millions and millions -- on nothing.]
I am sorry for writing this. It takes a lot of mental pressure to write such emails. I feel our superiors in GBC didn't stand up to our concerns, rather they are dumping their individual views by majority voting. Such voting is mentioned in puranic stories that 5 men voted for dog to be a goat and by majority vote Dog becomes a Goat.
I am raising my voice because I am not convinced that keeping quiet is the
solution and I don't want to accept this compromise I am feel helpless, and
I want to keep in record for the next generation that as an individual I stood against this and raised my voice in my capacity.
lastly I beg the Bureau Members to please support the ICC (Indian Temples)
stand against FDG.
Thank you once again.
Your Servant.
Sitaram Das
[PADA: Time to speak out! Yep!]
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