Making Female diksha gurus is "cultural digestion"? (Basu Ghosh Das)

Making Female diksha gurus is "cultural digestion"? 

Just as we dismiss the FDG issue as being essentially political, so the GBC has apparently relegated our concerns about dharma in general -- particularly daivi varnasrama -- to some implicitly mundane category that liberals would call "cultural sensitivity," as if it were non-scriptural.

Shame on them.

In light of the GBC's consistently evasive history on this issue, it seems that rather than ever actually recognizing all the objections we've voiced on behalf of our guru-sadhu-sastras, this new GBC-Bureau Relations Committee really looks more like a body intended to cook up political strategies that silence "cultural" concerns (and sistacara) from Indian leaders -- even though these are well-grounded in both sastra and tradition. And these aren't necessarily limited to the FDG controversy.

Is it actually what some call cultural digestion?

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 11:07 PM Basu Ghosh Das <basughoshdas@gmail.com> wrote:

FDG was already approved by the GBC by (a simple) majority vote.

It's implementation has been held in abeyance -- again by GBC vote --- until the completion of a dialogue with the Bureau.

The dialogue died when Dayaram Prabhu withdrew from the joint meetings, after contracting the covid-19 fever - that he later recovered from. However, now he is seriously ill with blood disease, and without semi-weekly blood platelet transfusions, he cannot function (according to Braja Hari Prabhu, who was told this by Dayaram Prabhu's wife, over the phone).

The GBC has not discussed FDG implementation, but recently passed a resolution, that they have not yet made public, on "cultural sensitivity", which I understand is one of the planks / provisions in the FDG resolution, on various regional governing bodies being empowered to decide on what is appropriate for their area. FDG in the back door - I suppose.

The GBC also has constituted a committee on GBC - Bureau relations, with five members, Bhakti Chaitanya Swami, Praghosh Das, Devakinandan MVG Singapore (General Counsel), Gauranga Das (RNS - GEV / Chowpatty), and Govardhan Das (South Africa, I understand is initiated by B Caitanya S).

So, FDG is "here". The Bureau passed a resolution expressing it's "strong opposition" to the GBC resolution. GKG told me that we should vote again on that! Hoping against hope that we - it passed almost unanimously - except for his abstention, and BRD leaving the room, and JPS being in the USA at that time - reverse our opposition to FDG - because he wills it!

[PADA: OK but one woman already wrote to PADA complaining that we women will need to have a "stable financial situation" with husband or son [to finance and provide for us] before we women can be gurus, while the men get to suck money off the society. And most of the ISKCON women do not have a stable income situation. It is already loaded against women, never mind any zone that wants to prohibit women gurus can do so. Not fair in the least!

Anyway our friend Dayaram was the person in 1997 who said the GBC should sue Bangalore, and he promised he would take less than $1,000,000 and take less than one year. Nope, they spent evidently $20,000,000 and it still is not resolved now. Jayapataka wanted more funds for the lawsuit in 2020, then they got hit with the virus problem. Various Jayapataka followers sent me cursing messages claiming that I cost them $100,000,000 by supporting various lawsuits and police raids etc. Ummm, I do not sign your checkbooks guys, you wanted to spend this money and not me.

Interestingly, Dayarama did tell me that he knows that the GBC is making homosexuals into ISKCON's gurus. So he does know he is defending a corrupt guru process. Now he is very sick and evidently "is not functioning very much." Well maybe that is what happens when a person wastes $20,000,000 of Krishna's money defending a pedophile guru process. 

His "not functioning too good" is unfortunate, but this is very good news for those of us who do not like pedophile guru's programs suing us in court. Not really wishing anyone well or unwell for these folks, but it does look like Krishna is gradually putting the metal clampers down on their process.

OK so now the India ICC bureau is still foot dragging on the female diksha guru issue, but they have no problem promoting a male guru, who is also a known pedophile. Hey guess what! Give me a woman guru, even the elderly cat woman down the street. She is very friendly to me and -- she is far less likely to be a pedophile! At least I can take my kids to stay for the day with her, without fear they are going to get sexually assaulted. 

Overall? It is further evidence of the GBC's guru melt down is going on among the GBC's elites. They are fighting among themselves, which is like thieves fighting over stolen bread. Their authority system is melting down, and that is always good for us. I also hope Dayarama makes a statement that he erred by defending a homosexual and / or pedophile guru process, that would be the best thing he could do for himself and for ISKCON at this stage.

ys pd]