In other words, the seniors, elders and leaders wanted to avoid taking responsibility for being the creators and / or hand maidens / sycophants of the child abuse crisis. Now, the victims are to blame, not those of us seniors / leaders who avoided taking the crisis to task as we should have done decades ago. It is called victim blaming. "She was attacked because she was wearing the wrong dress."
It is the psychology of victim shaming that has been going on since time began ... but it is horrendous for the victims, and has caused many of the ISKCON victims untold grief, as they have told me personally. ys pd
LM DASI: It's not just woman and girls though. Many of them are trained as brahmacharis to believe and act that [misogynist] way, but the pedophilia ring that happened was basically all attacking little boys.
LM DASI: It's not just woman and girls though. Many of them are trained as brahmacharis to believe and act that [misogynist] way, but the pedophilia ring that happened was basically all attacking little boys.
They really screw up men's minds with how to treat woman, and how they should treat us as "dumb and duty full." We are their servants.
After all, women are automatically subordinate, because they just scientifically are according to SP, or submissive in an ancient Vedic "civilized" way. I honestly don't understand why so many Krsna conscious devotees act as if everything that counts is all about the body, when we are told that we are spirit souls, not this body.
"Oh, but your soul's female body is demonic. ...It just came from Hell, so I'm going to punish you even more because so and make sure you go back there again -- rather than help you get free, as I should. It's such a contradiction because they want it to be one. They want to use the idea of women being submissive to exploit them.
I truly do appreciate everything that you [PADA] did in the past to protest and try to get others to open their EyE and try to recognize that their children are violently being molested and abused -- and to try to stand up and do something about what was going on within the institution, because I know how dangerous it truly was for children, and women, and the vulnerable.
[PADA: Another lady said that Urmila is only partly correct when she says "The GBC always changes things." OK but they never change the root issue, i.e. children have to worship pedophiles as their Jesus-like gurus. And anyone who does not agree is banned, removed, exiled, sued, beaten etc. that policy never changes.]
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GBC MAY REPLACE CPO DIRECTOR
Multiple ISKCON leaders are currently trying to have the ISKCON Child Protection Office Director removed. These ISKCON leaders are upset that their friend Laxmimoni was found to be an abuser and had restrictions placed on her. For the last 3 years they have been telling anyone and everyone who would listen that Laxmimoni's case was supposedly mishandled. (Yet, they are silent at the mishandling of the Lokanath case.)
Now that the GBC is resisting giving the case of self-admitted child molester Lokanath to the ISKCON Child Protection Office, these leaders are saying "Hey, let's remove the CPO Director and use the Laxmimoni case as a reason!"
Leaders actively trying to have Kamlesh Krishna removed as CPO Director and in so doing, compromising the Lokanath case:
Hridayananda Dasa Goswami
Brahmatirtha das (Bob Cohen)
Radha Dasi
Malati Devi Dasi
Anuttama Dasa
TPL DASI: Frankly, unless some reputable news agency investigates this matter, nothing's going to change. Iskcon's leadership, and I use the term loosely, is a joke.
NJD: Is there documentation of their efforts?
SD: Yes. Some of it is supposed to be confidential.
GKD: Time to get this on the media. This is sick and disgusting. They’re literally removing anyone for speaking out. Even in a DALLAS child abuse case the temple president is threatening to sue Iskcon CPO because the child abuser was found guilty. This crap needs to be stopped.
SD: Yes, please contact any and all media. The light needs to be shined on these nefarious dealings.
GKD: Enough is enough. But I don’t think Mother Malati is involved. She’s very neutral and level headed.
AAD: Ahem, GBC...
CKD: Here we see it again gangster mafia mood, must be exhausting to work against all this stuff, may Krishna give you unlimited strength to surmount it all.
LFD: What was the situation with Laxmimoni? What did she do?
SD: She was found to have abused girls in her care over decades. Restrictions were placed on her as ISKCON does with child abusers, barring her from leadership.
LFD: What kind of abuse? Sexual abuse or corporal punishment or psychological abuse...?
PBD: Wasn't she the head pujari in Dallas?
Laxmimoni: https://www.harekrsna.com/.../09-08/editorials3353.htm?
SD: She was a pujari in a few different temples: Toronto, Dallas, etc.
PB: What was her husband's name?
SD: Jagadish ex-Swami.
PADA: Jdadisha ran off with some married Italian woman and her five year child, and her husband wrote to ask for my help locating them. He is another person who likes to exploit the ISKCON citizens. All kinds of problems were going on in the ISKCON schools when he was supposedly one of the overseers. He told people I was a fault finder and offender, to keep my complaints suppressed. ys pd
KED: I don’t have anything constructive to say, at this point i’m just laughing at the entire debacle that is iskcon and its guru managers ...
SD: I am laughing-crying.
KED: That’s the kind i’m doing too.
CKD: It's very clear to see them now they get cornered in their hypocritical dealings and shuffle around like a big hive of toxic killer bees trying to protect themselves wow.
PADA: All the usual suspects. Urmila recently said that the GBC covers up guru scandals for sometimes 10 or 15 years, it is their normal course of behavior. I heard they are trying to get a vote of either confidence or no confidence in Lokanath, and there is a lot of lobbying going on among the potential voters. Basically, it is another guru melt down, not unlike many others we have witnessed over the years. You did a good job making this melt down process speed up substantially. Now, a lot more people are aware of the issue, and thus they will be saved and not be sucked into it. In sum, just exposing them gives some closure and relief to various victims, and saves others from being future victims. Whatever they do at this stage will be a big problem for them, keeping him is a problem, losing him is a problem, but they self-created this entire problem themselves by years and years of lies and obfuscation. ys pd
SD: Yes by covering up Lokanath’s abuse, they created this problem.
M Dasi: That is what they always do. There are some devotees studying the issue ... and when the results of the study group does not agree with the GBC ... they just ignore them ... or attack the devotees doing the study.
ReplyDeleteOr worse ... they remove those engaged in the study group. They just do what they wanted to do all along ... and the study group / committee is just some shuffle and fake out to make people think things are being fixed.
I agree ... Urmila is saying they are always changing ... but nothing of importance ever changes. We had to worship fools and rascals ... all along ... and we still do. Now someone told me they wanted to get initiated ... but Radhanath has a five year waiting list. Are they starting to slow down taking more karma?
They really don't want a solid committee to make solid recommendations ... because their whole program has been to lie, cheat, steal, put off, bluff, shuffle the facts, cover up ... and make us shut up ... and there is no other program. I am glad more devotees are saying we need to take them to the media etc. ... that means they are realizing ... the GBC are 95 percent or maybe fully 100 percent rotten ... trying to make a deal with them is useless ... they are too corrupt. Urmila says they are changing. They said we have to worship pedophiles as gurus all along ... and they still do say that ... I fail to see how that changes anything.