[PADA: Thanks for the link JD. Yes this is very baffling? Bhakti Vikas swami claims that in ISKCON their deviant -- if not sexual predator -- people are "assuming the post of guru" i.e. Jesus-like messiahs -- without understanding that no one "assumes" the post of anything without being qualified first. I cannot go to the hospital and tell them I am here to "assume" the post of brain surgeon -- simply because I think (assume) I am one. One has to be qualified first of all.
Evidently, as soon as ISKCON's big shot guru Bhakti Vikas swami finds a group of deviants who are "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children (and cats?)" he and his pals think (assume) that this group of deviants are in a chain of gurus from God. And this is a good question: how did BVKS become certified as a co-guru of this pedophile messiah's group from square one?
First of all the ISKCON GBC group reinstated "oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham" as their "Vishnupada" messiah and acharya, and then the same group voted in BVKS as one of the co-members of their "oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham guru parampara." And they even claimed that their oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham messiah is another "Vishnu-padas" i.e. as pure as God's feet. Begs the question: Why does the BVKS program "assume" that oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham = equals God's feet?
Srila Bhaktisiddanta Saraswati is a Vishnupada, and so we should "assume" that homosexuals and pedophiles are also another Vishnupada? Won't this infuriate Lord Vishnu? You are right JD!
Another good question! Why does BVKS' program "assume" that illicit sex with men, women and children, and cats, constitutes "a chain of gurus from God" -- at all? What kind of God has homosexuals, pedophiles, Vodka drunks, Reno gamblers, drug addicts, porno swami and deviants as "God's chain of guru successors"? Sounds like Satan's chain of successors? Yep!
Or is it simply that BVKS' program "assumes" that God's successors are often debauchees and deviants, and even pedophiles, when in actual fact -- deviants are NOT EVER / NEVER / FOREVER God's successors. So when one of BVKS' messiahs said that he should wear a condom when he is having illicit sex with his therapist, BVKS' program simply added "Condom-pada" to their alleged chain of messiahs from heaven.
Good question JD! When BVKS's program's folks see a used condom laying on the street, do they think (assume) they have found their guru's maha leftovers? Or what? So BVKS' folks never explain why their program assumes that their condom-pada is in a "chain of gurus from God," or he either is, or was, or could have been, a messiah from Vaikuntha in the first place? And when we asked the Los Angeles managers to remove the photo of condom-pada from the altars, they said "it is not our department to deal with that." Right, it is BVKS department because he is one of the main shot callers in their system.
That means BVKS' program simply assumes that deviants and pedophiles are gurus and messiahs, and his program then implements that we peons have to help the BVKS folks promote worship of their pedophile messiah's club's pals, or we get banned, beat, sued, and maybe assassinated. So BVKS' program assumes that pedophiles are God's successors, and then we have to accept their bogus assumption, or we are banned, beaten, sued, or killed?
And shastra assumes that the people who promote false gurus are destined to become residents of a sewer pit? And isn't BVKS' program's illicit sex with men, women and children, and cats, guru parampara from heaven -- already a sewer pit? And that is evidently why BVKS is working with Basu Ghosh, the folks who are insisting on keeping pedophile Lokanath in their list of current messiahs. And that is evidently why so many ex-ISKCON kids are suffering trauma and PTSD and they sometimes commit suicide, they are victims of the BVKS pedophile messiahs project. Of course suffering and dead children is not a big problem, it is just acceptable collateral damage for the greater good of establishing pedophiles as messiahs.
YEP! You got it JD! ys pd
SD DASI: I think it is safe to say ... "assuming" we are assisting the gopis is dangerous and sahajiya. We are not allowed to do these things. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
ReplyDeleteBVKS is correct ... they have some committee meeting and then ... "assume" they are gurus. And then they assume their pedophile friends are also gurus. Whole system based on false assuming. Lies. And those of us who refuse to accept their bogus assuming ... are unwanted offenders. They set this up ... so anyone who does not want to "assume" pedophiles are gurus ... will be cast out of the Krishna society. Or even killed. And they call us rotten names. They hate us Hare Krishna vaishnavas. Very vicious people.
Gaudiya Matha also assumed they are acharyas. We are supposed to avoid that. That is the first thing they went to. That is because... they wanted to make this "assume we are gurus" system ... and we all know by now ... what happens to children when we assume that pedophiles are gurus.
Look at the horrific state of the ISKCON children. Molested and PTSD children ... even dead children ... all acceptable loss for them. They just step over top the skulls of dead devotees and dead children to stand up their own selves as gurus.
I am higher than all of you! But you are standing on our dead skulls? They assumed they are gurus .... so they could have all the rest of us removed ... so they could take over. The snake eats the gopher and takes over his tunnel. And that is "guru"? Or snake? So many children have to suffer ... and die ... so they can sit in a big chair for a few years. These people are abominable.
LW: Problem in a nutshell. They wanted to be gurus. So they assumed that anyone can be one ... even if he is a pedophile. And that means -- the people Prabhupada trusted to guard his children ... fed his children to the wolves.
ReplyDeleteThese were the people he thought ... would keep out the false guru program and protect the children ... instead they became the leaders of the false program. And they simply ruined the lives of countless devotees ... and devotee children ... and ruined ISKCON ... so they could have a little guru guru clique cult in Salem India ... where no one cares about their program because it is a little cult.
The ruined the whole program ... so they could have a little retirement program for themselves in the middle of nowhere. Oh man. There is going to be a lot of karma for ruining Krishna's movement.
And this is the whole problem ... they assumed something was real ... when it was not. They lied. People died. And they really killed off the Lord's Harinama Samkirtana movement .. and lost most of its best people with their system.
That is why some of my friends said they are subterranean lower life forms taking over ISKCON ... to take ISKCON to the lower regions. And I agree ... that is what they did. They were supposed to protect Srila Prabhupada's children ... and instead they threw these children into the mouths of the wolves.
All this had to be done so ... they could sit at the same table with these wolves and get a seat with them. They forgot ... Krishna never forgives people who mistreat His devotees ... never mind having them starved, beaten, molested, and killed.
My friend wants me to forgive them. I can do that ... but they will never be forgiven by the Lord.
HD: Pedophiles are "assuming" they are as good as God gurus. And BVKS does not know ... we cannot allow that in human society? Pedophiles are considered as the lower tier class ... in prison.
ReplyDeleteHow is it that the lowest class in prison can "assume" the post of highest "good as God" guru ... and BVKS does not realize ... that is not to be done? He still does not understand that pedophiles should not be allowed to "assume" that they are as good as God? OR what!
It seems to me that all normal human being knows that we cannot allow sexual deviants to "assume" they are as good as God. That spells trouble for everyone ... especially the victims. Children are often victims ... of these "assuming I am guru" cults. That means assuming predators and perverts can be gurus is dangerous to children ... and all human society.
I do not understand why BVKS is still saying his program has authority to have sexual predators or pedophiles "assume" they are gurus ... when no other religions allows pedophiles to "assume" the post of "good as God." If we assume the lowest caste of prison is as good as God ... we are going to have endless troubles ... for us and especially ... our children.
BVKS program gives an "assuming of guru" license to perverts to assume they are gurus ... that means he does not understand ... only Krishna gives a guru driver's license to His pure devotee to be a guru. BVKS is not the guru driver's license department ... he just assumes he is.
Krishna empowers the guru ... and BVKS says there is no need to apply to Krishna for His guru license ... BVKS will print guru's driver's licenses in his basement. "You are authorized to assume you are as good as God." What could go wrong?
I am really lost here. We can assume that anyone who thinks they are another parampara jagat guru ... is another guru? How can a society be managed when a bunch of people think -- assume -- they are ... another sum total of the demigods ... speaking as God dictates? This will never work. I might assume I am a millionaire ... that does not make it so. This is the most foolish thing going on the planet today ... anyone can assume they are as good as God ... even pedophiles!
LD: Bhakti Vikas swami "assumed" condom-pada is dancing with the gopis. What could go wrong? And he still thinks he is ... authorized to "asssume" bogus gurus are authorized. That is why the first part of the word "assume" is "A**."
ReplyDeleteBVKS still assumes these GBC idiots are gurus. No one else in their right mind still thinks these fools should assume they are Krishna's associates. Why can't he just grow up and admit ... they are making a huge mistake to assume their condom wearing supposed gopi assisting friends ... are not gurus ... are not assisting the gopis and never were assisting the gopis? Why not just be truthful ... we misrepresented guru and assisting the gopis! HUGELY!
They are assisting the pedophiles ... not the gopis. We should change their guru pranam to "BVKS ... the eternal servant of the pedophiles posing as gopi assisting." This is disgusting! No ordinary person "assumes" condom wearing fools are part of a chain of God's assisting servants.
At least Harikesh says ... ISKCON is worse than the material world. He is right.
Even the material people do not promote the worship of condom-pada alleged gopi assisting fools like BVKS. These people head straight to the planet of used condom worship once they leave here. They won't be bothering us for much longer! Worship of condom pada is authorized ... because we assume it is.
YOU ASSUME WRONG! And many people had to be banned and even killed so BVKS could "assume" that we need to worship used condoms! This is so disgusting ... I find it hard to believe we have to explain this to anyone? Unbelievable ignorance!