[PADA: Narasimgha swami says the reason Jesus had been nailed to the cross is because -- he is not too advanced. That scenario would never happen to an advanced devotee. Yet, Srila Saraswati was alleged to have been given poison, and so was Srila Prabhupada. Does that mean, they are not advanced? How can we say great saints who are attacked by deviants and demons -- are not advanced?
And Srila Prabhupada says, me and Jesus are brothers and thus -- just as they killed Lord Jesus they may kill me also. And this is a sign these folks are not advanced? Taking the risk of giving up one's life to preach about God / Krishna is the ULTIMATE signature emblem of advancement? That means the preacher is giving up not only all he possesses, but he is perhaps making the ultimate sacrifice of having his life taken by his preaching. And this means, such preachers -- are not advanced?
*** Srila Prabhupada said the teachings of Jesus created the foundation of the Western culture, and without Jesus there would be no real culture in the West. And thanks to Jesus, I was able to come to the West. Therefore lets minimize Jesus. Is that a good idea?
*** Narasimgha swami points out that the GBC 11 regime that BR SRIDHARA MAHARAJA was supporting was excommunicating people (like us). True, and Sridhara Maharaja also said "none (of us) should protest" and he defended the bogus 11. Now Narasimgha swami says the process Sridhara Maharaja supported and promoted was going down a very dark road. Correct, so why does Sridhara Maharaja defend and promote going down the dark road?
*** Narasimgha swami says that the fallen jeevas never fell from the spiritual world. Fine! (A) Some fortunate souls start as angels with God, and then there are (B) the less fortunate, who are destined to fail and fall. Why? God is biased with His children, therefore some of His created children / jeeva souls are born fortunate and some are born condemned. And that is ALSO what Christianity is saying i.e. some souls start out as angels with GOD, and some of us (the fallen) do not.
And then he wonders, how can so many souls fall from the spiritual sky, as if the sheer volume of numbers of the fallen would show that its not possible to fall from there -- apparently because God would not allow so many to have fallen. Well for starters. we are in a universe where each planet has many trillions and trillions of souls, especially when we start counting microbes and cellular level lives and so on.
And then there are countless planets in each universe, and then there are as many universes as there are mustard seeds in a bucket, and so on. OK there are a lot of fallen souls, countless really, but to say we cannot imagine so many would fall is -- speculation. We cannot fathom how many of this or that exists anyway because for starters, its WAY over our teeny pea-sized brains to figure these things out.
*** Narasimgha swami says that envy only exists in the maha tattva. Great, God starts out us fallen souls in the world of envy? And He places others in the world of non-envy, because God is biased and bigoted with His children. Why would a loving father place some of His children in heaven, and others in a hellish situation? Very handy, that blames God for condition of the fallen souls, and not the misuse of independence on the part of the fallen souls.
*** Then, Narasimgha swami has the devotee read from the Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu -- that the fallen souls has to become reinstated in their original position in one of the five rasas. OK wait a minute, if we are going to be reinstated in our original position, that means we were there at one time, i.e. originally? How can we be reinstated to a position -- we never held? That makes no sense.
From Narasimgha swami's web site:
Because of our free will, we have a choice to not love the Supreme, so when we develop bhakti and come to truly love Krsna, then our love means a lot to Him. You think that you deserve to be originally in the spiritual world, but why not all the living entities? Why not? Because that is not Krsna’s desire. His arrangement is that some are there as His eternal associates and some are here to hopefully develop their bhakti and qualify to enter the spiritual realm. That is His will, so we must accept it.
[PADA: Thus God is forcing some souls into being His pure servants and forcing others to be fallen because "it is Krishna's desire." Good question here, if Krishna can make all souls originate to serve Him in the spiritual world with no chance of falling, why doesn't he just do that? Why does God place some souls into a place where they can never fail; and others to be placed where they can fail, and be tempted. And worse, where they have to suffer birth and death, falling to hellish planets, being born as animals and being chased and eaten by other animals etc.? Why doesn't God just save all of us all these troubles, and place all of us in the "non-fallen forever" status from square one?]
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"My dear gentle friend, both you and I are exactly like two swans. We live together in the same heart, which is just like the MÄnasa Lake. Although we have been living together for many thousands of years, we are still far away from our original home.
PURPORT
The original home of the living entity and the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the spiritual world. In the spiritual world both the Lord and the living entities live together very peacefully. Since the living entity remains engaged in the service of the Lord, they both share a blissful life in the spiritual world. However, when the living entity wants to enjoy himself, he falls down into the material world.
Even while he is in that position, the Lord remains with him as the Supersoul, his intimate friend. Because of his forgetfulness, the living entity does not know that the Supreme Lord is accompanying him as the Supersoul. In this way the living entity remains conditioned in each and every millennium. Although the Lord follows him as a friend, the living entity, because of forgetful material existence, does not recognize Him.
SB 4.28.54
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Anyway. Narasimgha swami is correct, the GBC's guru process is bogus. And it was empowered, enabled and promoted by BR Sridhara Maharaja. And BR Sridhara Maharaja also enabled and promoted a bi-sexual deviant after 1936, and dissenters (like us after 1977) were banned, beaten, had their faces pushed into dog stools, were having their heads cracked with bricks, and some were killed. And then BR Sridhara supported the same false guru deviations after 1977 in ISKCON, and once again BR Sridhara Maharaja orchestrated the same process of banning, beating, and murders. ys pd
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