Another Ritvik Rip
BY: BHAKTA TORBEN
Nov 14, 2017 — DENMARK
This is the system:
"You are coming here to learn something. When you are convinced that "Swāmījī knows the thing," when you are convinced, then you accept.
Then you ask for initiation.
Otherwise don't do it hesitatingly or knowing half. Therefore in the system it is enjoined that the spiritual master also observe the disciple at least for one year, and the disciple also study the spiritual master at least for one year.
So when both of them are convinced that "He can be my spiritual master" or "He can be my disciple," then the relationship is established. We initiate our students. The preliminary initiation is offering chanting. Then we observe, at least for one year, how he is chanting, how he is doing. Then the second initiation confirms.
That is the system."
(Srila Prabhupada, Los Angeles, 1969
This system is, of course, impossible in the Ritvik-dogma-church propounding formal initiation to a departed guru.
BY: BHAKTA TORBEN
Nov 14, 2017 — DENMARK
This is the system:
"You are coming here to learn something. When you are convinced that "Swāmījī knows the thing," when you are convinced, then you accept.
Then you ask for initiation.
Otherwise don't do it hesitatingly or knowing half. Therefore in the system it is enjoined that the spiritual master also observe the disciple at least for one year, and the disciple also study the spiritual master at least for one year.
So when both of them are convinced that "He can be my spiritual master" or "He can be my disciple," then the relationship is established. We initiate our students. The preliminary initiation is offering chanting. Then we observe, at least for one year, how he is chanting, how he is doing. Then the second initiation confirms.
That is the system."
(Srila Prabhupada, Los Angeles, 1969
This system is, of course, impossible in the Ritvik-dogma-church propounding formal initiation to a departed guru.
[PADA: Wow! So we cannot offer bhogha and disciples to a departed guru. Yep, we have to offer bhogha and disciples to Torben's / Rocana's / Hanuman Croatia's illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs instead? Where is is stated in shastra that we have to offer bhogha to a guru lineage of persons engaged in illicit sex?
Amazing, we cannot offer bhogha to a pure devotee, we have to offer bhogha to a lineage of deviants. Where is this done -- in any religion? We cannot offer grace to Jesus, we have to offer grace to -- the town drunk? ys pd]
Amazing, we cannot offer bhogha to a pure devotee, we have to offer bhogha to a lineage of deviants. Where is this done -- in any religion? We cannot offer grace to Jesus, we have to offer grace to -- the town drunk? ys pd]
Jesus is not the acharya, because he his post mortem, the village drunk is the messiah -- because he is alive? What?
This is one of the "living messiahs of the Jagat"?
Right, Hanuman and Torben etc. apparently think Bhakti Vikas swami is bona fide, uummm ... because he is voted into the sex with taxi driver's guru parampara? We have to offer our bhogha to the sex with taxi driver's guru parampara? Where is this found in shastra?
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