Monday, November 13, 2017

Gaura Govinda Maharaja Does Not Accept Sabda Brahman


Devotee 1: The disciple is eternally hearing.
Sri Srimad Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, this process is eternal. I am eternally the disciple of my Guru. I am constantly hearing from him. What I am hearing that I am speaking, I am not concocting anything. What my Guru says, I say.

Devotee 1: For a disciple who is still conditioned and whose spiritual master has left the planet, although he has books, he still has to hear sabda-brahma?
Sri Srimad Gour Govinda Maharaja: Yes, hearing is more effective. Books will help you. Nevertheless, you have to hear. It is not that only by reading books you can have it.
Devotee 1: So he cannot achieve this position of tattva-jnana just by reading. Even if he has had physical contact with guru, still he must hear from the tattva-acarya who is physically there, who is acting as a pipe.
Sri Srimad Gour Govinda Maharaja: Yes, guru is always there and Krsna is always there, manifested and unmanifested. Guru may have become unmanifest, but still he is there. However, you should understand how he is there, in what form.
Devotee: When you say that the guru is always present, and that we have to recognize the form he is present in, isn’t that the meaning of disciplic succession?
Sri Srimad Gour Govinda Maharaja: Yes, guru is always present. I see my guru always. He is not gone. He has not disappeared. If you say that he has disappeared, it is very painful to me. No. He is there! I see him every day, every moment. Every day I am hearing from him. Therefore I am speaking. How can I speak unless I hear? I am not hearing any tapes. I am hearing directly from him, but you cannot understand it.
From discussion after class

PADA: Except Gaura Govinda Maharaja said that its wrong to accept that we all originated with Krishna in His leela or sport. How can GGM be hearing, but not even know the basics of what Srila Prabhupada says on this topic? And moreover, how can GGM deny the title of the flagship magazine called BACK TO GODHEAD (from where we originate)? 
This is why Srila Prabhupada said his God brothers do not accept the Back To Godhead idea because they are tinged with mayavada. A person who is tinged with mayavada is NOT hearing. GGM says we cannot get sabda brahman from the books and tapes, it will not descend from there, we have to hear from the living lips person. Yet GGM has not even understood what the guru said? We knew what he said, because we read the words of the guru? Since GGM does not accept sabda brahman, how can he give any to others? ys pd

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