Sunday, March 5, 2017

Gainesville "Krishna House" Defends Book Changing

Advertised as Kalakantha das (Carl Woodham)

[PADA: Wow, that did not take long. GBC book changers defend their position:]

Kalakantha Prabhu:

From a Krishna House ista-goshti:

The Queen of England attended the opening of the first Krishna Avanti school in England. They read the third verse of the “Siksastakam” to her, describing how one who is more tolerant than a tree and more humble than a blade of grass, who asks for no respect but respects all, can always chant the holy name of God, and she replied, “Wouldn’t that be lovely?”

At the Krishna Avanti schools students are required to chant one round of japa and attend one arati. An ecotourist award was won by Radhanath Swami’s eco village in Maharashtra.

[PADA: Swell, Radhanatha buries Kirtanananda, a known criminal and sexual predator of young men, in a samadhi Vrndavana. And then Kalakantha (Krishna House?) thinks this Radhanath process is a wonderful program. Why is Kalakantha endorsing having children worship sexual predators as their departed "samadhi" gurus and messiahs? 

Why doesn't Kalakantha know that sexual predators are not gurus and messiahs, and thus should NOT be buried in the Krishna's holy dham? Isn't Krishna House of Gainesville committing the crime of corrupting the morals of minors by promoting a program that children need to worship a lineage of sexual predators as their idea of "gurus in samadhi"? What exactly is sexual predator samadhi in the first place? Sexual predators think of illicit sex, duh!, how is that spiritual and / or samadhi? 

If Kalakantha wants to personally worship his illicit sex with young men program as his idea of samadhi, fine, but is it legal to say that worship of illicit sex with young men is the samadhi of the messiahs and acharyas of God, and to teach that to children? Or is this illegal fraud? Are there any corporate ISKCON documents saying that the purpose of the society is to teach that God's successors are often debauchees?  

Isn't that corrupting the morals of minors, to have them worship sexual predators as their gurus in samadhi? Samadhi is eternal meditation on God, and Kalakantha's program has illicit sex with young men going on in this realm? Why are they teaching this odious idea to children? Should this not be reported to the Florida charity commission?] 

Two major challenges in ISKCON:
1. Lack of reading Srila Prabhupada’s books.
2. Lack of qualified leadership

Solving lack of reading challenge:
1. Personal vows.
2. Study groups.
3. Bhakti Sastri courses.

Lack of qualified leaders:
1. GBC College, which has been going on for three years

The initial GBC was 100% American. Now it is 60% American. Of those in the GBC college now, none are Americans, yet they come from all other parts of the world. The Krishna House is successful in bringing educated Americans to ISKCON.

The mission of Krishna House:
Introductory practice of Krishna consciousness
8 rounds, low cultural expectations
encouragement, support, acceptance
no commitment beyond currect semester
We hope to bring people from sraddha to anartha-nivrtti.

[PADA: OK so the first thing Krishna House tells folks is that the people like Radhanath are bona fide, but he promotes the worship of known sexual predators of young men in a samadhi.] 

Graduate options:
Degree, job, marriage, family
Brahmacari / brahmacarini book distribution
Sustenance farming / preaching KHI Guyana
Business [Govinda’s], Marriage, Family

If anyone was Srila Prabhupada’s right hand man it was Tamal Krishna Goswami. There was a paper in which Tamal Krishna Goswami said he was responsible for importing the Indian cultural values and enforcing them upon Western people.

[PADA: And Tamal says his two favorite people are Narayan Maharaja and Bhavananda, another sexual predator of minors. Why does Kalakanatha always promote the program of guru worship of adults who enjoy having illicit sex with young men? And didn't the GBC itself say that Tamal and his NM program is bogus?]

To reduce politics we can:
Emphasize coming together for classes, field trips and harinama.
Teach straightforwardness.

To accept the 1972 Gita with its errors is OK and to accept the 1983 Gita with its changes is OK, but to say the editing was unauthorized and is an offense to Srila Prabhupada, and that therefore, ISKCON, the BBT, and the GBC, are all offenders to Srila Prabhupada is aparadha, or offense, to many sincere followers of Srila Prabhupada who have dedicated their lives to his service.

[PADA: OK so Jayadvaita swami (Jay Israel) says that God's successors (gurus) are found "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children," and this is how Kalakantha honors Krishna, by promoting those saying God's guru successors are often fallen debauchees? If God's messiahs are often debauchees, then what hope does the common man have of advancing to God? This is the atheist's idea, God's successors are deviants and mundane men.]

Any topic is open for discussion, no matter how controversial. This helps politics decrease. I became a guru five years ago. When you become a guru, you set yourself up to be disappointed if your disciples leave.

[PADA: Swell, so now Kalakantha thinks he is another Jesus who can absorb the sins of others. He is another diksha guru, like Jesus? Meanwhile, his program says people like Jesus (God's acharyas) are falling into debauchee behaviors? Why does Kalakantha's program hate Jesus and they make the post of someone like Jesus into a debauchee and sexual predators program, and this is all samadhi?]

Comments by Brahmatirtha Prabhu: I was in a temple where the most crazy things went on. The temple president was a sannyasi, and then he got married, and Srila Prabhupada performed the ceremony. The temple president’s wife would offer chicken to Radha Govinda. It sort of innoculated me from craziness in ISKCON. Nothing I encountered in the future was quite that crazy. I learned a lot from how Srila Prabhupada dealt with that situation. He praised those who put a stop to the craziness and those who continued with their services despite it, and he chastised those leaders who allowed it to happen.

[PADA: Right, Brahma Tirtha (aka Bob Cohen) is another guy who endorses Jayadvaita and his illicit sex with men, women and children guru's program. Apparently, only sex with donkeys is not allowed in their bogus messiah's project.]

Comment by Kaliya Damona Prabhu: At a Rainbow Gathering I once asked Radhanath Swami why he stayed at New Vrindavan, although Kirtanananda Swami was doing so many unusual, nonstandard things. Radhanath Swami replied, “When a devotee has difficulties, other devotees should not push him down. Instead they should support him.”

[PADA: Right, when a bogus fool posing as a devotee thinks he is a messiah and he is having sex with young men, we should support that program. Great! That is how Radhanath helped cause the mass molesting, he supported that process and its main leaders. And did we forget to mention, people who opposed Radhanath's molester messiahs program were banned, beaten and murdered?]

From a class on Bhagavad-gita: A brahmacari lives in the ashram of the spiritual master, and the grhastha creates his own ashram. Ideally it is progress to enter grhastha life, because one takes responsibility for others. The spiritual master reveals the best way for us to serve Krishna. Part of life is learning what you are good at, what can you do for a long time without any real endeavor.

Nagaraja Prabhu:

Talks of Krishna are Krishna as the Hare Krishna mantra is Krishna. Srila Prabhupada often advised in his lectures, regarding the Bhagavatam, “Please take this seriously.” 

[PADA: So when we say that acharyas are often debauchees, that is pleasing to Krishna?]

Puskara Prabhu:

We may foolish think that Krishna needs our offering, but in reality, Krishna is self-sufficient.

[PADA: And the GBC says the way to offer things to Krishna is to offer things to persons engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children. And Krishna will accept such offerings?]

Srila Prabhupada said his disciples dressed the deities in Hawaii so beautifully that anyone visiting from India would be impressed. The devotees have no qualification. How have they done this? Krishna has inspired them in the heart.

If we were to get the glances of those sixteen thousand queens, we would not last very long, but Krishna was completely undisturbed.

[PADA: And the program of the representatives of the gopis and queens, are having sex with young men in their motorhome?]

Comment by Pran Govinda Prabhu: Srila Prabhupada said if you want to know the Radha Krishna pastimes, study this song by Srinivasa Acarya “Sad Goswamyastaka.”

[PADA: Oh great, the illicit sex sabha thinks the prayers to the goswamis applies to their deviants.]

Srila Prabhupada wanted us to all come to the level of Goswami, especially the devotees in Vrindavan, and especially our leaders there. Srila Prabhupada gave you more than you can do in millions of lifetimes. People say Srila Prabhupada did not give us this or that. First do whatever Srila Prabhupada gave and then ask for more.

[PADA: And Prabhupada gave us the worship of illicit sex acharyas?]

Jayadvaita Swami tells one story: In one Delhi spiritual program, an industrial fan was blowing so loud no one could hear the speakers. Srila Prabhupada motioned for Jayadvaita Swami to turn it off, but when he heard the speaker was presenting a bogus philosophy, he motioned for Jayadvaita Swami to turn it back on!

[PADA: OK so Jayadvaita swami preaches that God's acharyas are often debauchees, and we cannot turn on the fan and stop that?] 

Trivikrama Prabhu:

I had a doubt. If Krishna came to reestablish religion, why did Krishna appear at the end of Dvapara-yuga? After many years an answer occurred to me which is supported by today’s verse: “My dear Lord, those pious and saintly persons who in the age of Kali hear about Your transcendental activities and also glorify them will easily cross over the darkness of the age.” (Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.6.24) Lord Krishna came to establish religious principles for those in the age of Kali.

[PADA: And Trivrikrama came to earth to establish the worship of illicit sex with young men as his messiahs and acharyas program? Trivirkrama was voted in as guru by the same people who recoronated Bhavananda, he is another person who has a sex with taxi drivers and sex with young men guru's certification.]

In a conversation with Sita, Lord Rama spoke about Kali-yuga. He explained that in Kali-yuga there is no place for a sadhu. Everyone will be engaged in sinful activities. There will be some karma and dharma, but there will be no sharma [peace of mind, happiness, delight, good fortune].

In this age we have an opinion about everything, and we think we do not need to follow the scriptures.

[PADA: OK show us where in the scriptures does it say we need to worship illicit sex with men, women and children as our guru sampradaya? These guys are getting desperate. ys pd]


  1. "We are therefore presenting Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, no change. We do not change. Anybody seriously reading our book, he'll be liberated. There is no doubt. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti [Bg. 4.9]. That's a fact. If not all books, simply Kṛṣṇa book, if one reads carefully, daily, he is liberated undoubtedly."-Srila Prabhupada
    Room Conversation—April 13, 1977, Bombay

  2. Thanks prabhu. I think that is a good start, you should contact the "Florida Charities Commission" and ask them if Kalakantha's official legal "Articles of Incorporation" say that part of their charter is: Krishna House shall be teaching that the chain of gurus coming from God contains illicit sex with men, women and children.

    And this is also what they will be teaching not only the public but the children in their mission. And if this is not in their charter, then are they not committing illegal fraudulent misrepresentation. Good question. Agreed.

    That's a good start, yes, we need to know what their documents actually say. If anyone has copies of these or any other documents they can send them to us at:

    ys pd

  3. Thanks prabhu, Well yes technically, these conversations should be kept "in house" and among "the devotee family." Problem is, as soon as we mention any of this in "the GBC house," they will often ban us, remove us, and even sue us. Or worse! Some of our friends were hunted and killed for bringing these things up. So we are much better situated to bring these things up in the manner we are doing at present. If they want to discuss any of this confidentially with me they are welcome to, they should write me at Of course we have been waiting for decades for them to write and they generally don't. So be it. ys pd

  4. What? This was all reformed in 1986? Nope. Right now the GBC says that God's successors are often engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children. And they are teaching that to children NOW. They are saying pedophiles appear in the chain of God's successors NOW, and they are training that to be the standard for God's successors NOW, even to children. When was this reformed? ys pd


Note: Only a member of this blog may post a comment.