Krishna Kirtan vs Gurukuli issue

Thanks Krishna Kirtan,

First of all, people need to read the books, therein they will find out that children are more important than money.

I was also first to write that these books cannot be changed in my 1980s newsletters, when no one else was even acknowledging or discussing these issues. 

Anyway, where is the spin you talk about? When I said that we have to act to pull a few hundred kids out of these bogus GBC's schools, and save some other victims, now ex children who were committing suicide, and we did that in both 1986 and later in 1997, you folks argued what the GBC said, oh forsooth what about all our holey dollar bills?

Sorry! We did not listen to you and your dollar bill worshipers program, we acted, and its a FACT, we had hundreds of these kids pulled out of these schools, and we had the suicides almost stopped. In sum, we saved people, and many of them have thanked us for saving them.

One very important ex-kuli has recently come on board with all of these issues and is working to inform the others, very thankful that at least SOME of us did SOMETHING for them, and we were not with your party of worship of the almighty dollar. Again, this is not spin, you said EXACTLY what the GBC gurus said, you were only worried about ISKCON's money.

Many ex-kulis confirm that is what you people were arguing, money counts, these kids do not count, they got you people pegged. First of all you need to have some basic compassion for other beings, and not have compassion for saving dollars, then you can lecture to others. You wanted to save money and not people, that is EXACTLY what you told me, and that is exactly what the GBC said.

I did not not spin this at all, its all on record, I said we have to pull hundreds of children out of these schools, and we have to save the ones who are depressed and suicidal, you said, oh bwaaaa haaaa, we are going to lose a couple of shekels. You cannot eat your holey gold, sorry that's just the way it is.

And your friends on the Prahlad team wrote to the Dallas courts saying simply, they want Srila Prabhupada's kids to die -- to silence the victims. And you sided with him and his team as well. After women are raped, sometimes they are killed to silence them, and that was EXACTLY the Prahlad team's solution for the GBC's children victims, they said, these children have to die, just like raped women have to die to keep them quiet. And you endorsed the Prahlad party that promotes that agenda, kill the abuse victims to silence them. That is what your Prahlad team wanted, and that is what abusers and rapists also want, to silence the victims. That is what the entire post-1977 evil empire wanted as well, to silence the victims, including by murdering some of us. That is what child molesting regimes want everywhere for that matter, to silence the victims.

Prahlad EVEN NOW still says we are wrong to save these kids, he openly says he wanted the child abuse to continue because he openly says we were wrong to put a halt to it, and you and him teamed up against us. I have many ex-kuli friends and they see little difference between your shekel counting party and the GBC's shekel counting party, that is not spin, that is a fact.

In 1979 I said these children are suffering, you folks and your ilk said that is spin, that is EXACTLY what you shekel worshiper folks said in 1979 when I said there is a abuse problem, you said its all spin, so you could save the molester's infrastructure, your type of folks caused them molesting with your shekel worship attitude. Your attitude is how all this happened in the first place. Sorry all this is not spin, I know, I know hundreds of victims of you and your spin program. ys pd

[PADA: Thanks prabhu, yes, these Krishna Kirtan type of guys are the same types of guys who have said all our comments are "lies and spin" all along starting in 1978. He is just quoting the other  goody two shoes compromised "elders" who chopped away at our protest all along. 

* When we said these gurus were not appointed, this chorus of critics said "this is all lies and spin." 

* When we said there is an gurukula abuse issue, yep how did you guess, more lies and spin. 

* When we said the original books are being edited and changed, did we forget to mention -- more lies and spin. 

* When we said -- Srila Prabhupada complains of poison, again, this is "lies and spin." 

Yep, the same chorus of people with this attitude are the reason we have had systemic banning, beating, molesting and poison issues swept under the carpet for 35 years. Krishna Kirtan's associates are STILL saying, this is all PADA's lies. Hmmm, well too freaking bad for these cry babies, the media, the police, the FBI -- and now many devotees -- all agree, this is all PADA's FACTS. And yes, we keep getting MORE PEOPLE on board with our idea EVERY DAY. ys pd]